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June 26, 2021, 05:38:15 PM
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Please don't advice people on how to earn Merit!



He probably shouldn't warn people about the dangers of plagiarism, either.  Smiley  
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June 26, 2021, 06:33:27 PM
Merited by BITCOIN4X (1)
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Exactly, earning a single merit is not a big deal for anyone who has the ability to read and write.
Hate to say it, but I disagree to an extent.  I've noticed that established members tend to earn more merits than members with no reputation whatsoever--and you could argue that more senior members tend to make better posts, but I don't think that explains it all.  Newcomers have to work probably 1.5x as hard as Legendaries or Hero members to earn merits (at least I'd estimate it to be that much extra effort).

And the fact is that there's a finite amount of merit floating around at any given moment, and add to that the fact that there are people who don't give out merits for whatever reason, and the fact that there are so many active members, and you get the result that it's pretty damn hard for lower-ranked members to earn enough merits to rank up.  I don't know where that thread is that listed how many members had ranked up for a given week, but the last time I looked at it, there weren't many members at all moving from Sr. Member-->Hero and Hero-->Legendary, not to mention that going from Jr. Member to Member isn't easy either.

So it's very easy to say "just make good posts and you'll earn merits" but that's just not the case.  You have to do that, of course, but there are many other factors involved.

He probably shouldn't warn people about the dangers of plagiarism, either.  Smiley 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg57324317#msg57324317
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June 26, 2021, 08:49:42 PM
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The Merit system works fine. The fact that you didn't earn any Merit proves it Tongue
Harsh, but I like it.

I've noticed that established members tend to earn more merits than members with no reputation whatsoever--
Exactly. Although, there are some exceptions in the development board where some experts who don't hang out to bitcointalk very often, have similar amount of posts and merits.

It's quite simple: if you use the forum as a forum instead of an ATM, you can stop creating useless posts so your Merit-to-post ratio will improve.
We should do that! Is there any BPIP page that shows a merit-to-post ratio? Not just the average merit you get on each post; it'd be too simple. I'd like to see something more complicated. A person having 1000 posts and 100 merits shouldn't be shitpostingly equal with 10 posts and 1 merit.  Roll Eyes



I've exaggerated with the abbr tag, haven't I?  Cheesy

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October 11, 2021, 10:33:40 PM
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Does this still working?
The Merit system works fine. The fact that you didn't earn any Merit proves it Tongue

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Seems like even posting quality posts, you still will not get merits
I wonder why.

so do we earn by humiliating people?
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October 11, 2021, 11:33:48 PM
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so do we earn by humiliating people?
Why did you bump this thread with a shitpost?  

And did you not notice that the post LoyceV quoted resulted in that member getting banned for plagiarism?  

Maybe you should read the rules and get a feel for the forum before criticizing it.  Or keep on as you are, posting in the altcoin section, where I'll never see anything you write.

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Last edit: October 12, 2021, 09:44:11 AM by ferrisbullish
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so do we earn by humiliating people?
Why did you bump this thread with a shitpost?  

And did you not notice that the post LoyceV quoted resulted in that member getting banned for plagiarism?  

Maybe you should read the rules and get a feel for the forum before criticizing it.  Or keep on as you are, posting in the altcoin section, where I'll never see anything you write.

should I look for another post with humiliations to ask in an appropriate place? btw why maxis are so stupid? These guys you humiliate don't even speak english well and you seem to have fun doing it. I know the system, a small club of people who considers themselves very special. I asked to see if you guys realize what's wrong here.
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October 12, 2021, 10:33:51 AM
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Does this still working?
The Merit system works fine. The fact that you didn't earn any Merit proves it Tongue

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Seems like even posting quality posts, you still will not get merits
I wonder why.
so do we earn by humiliating people?
I can't help receiving Merit for my sarcastic post. If it means some people thought it's worth reading, I can agree to that. If it stops another user from plagiarizing, that's a win!

I treat people the way I think they deserve. Usually that's friendly and helpful, sometimes they deserve to be humiliated. Nothing wrong with that, you can't expect everyone on the internet to only cuddle you, right?

These guys you humiliate don't even speak english well and you seem to have fun doing it.
It's absolutely fine if someone doesn't speak English, they can even use Google Translate for all their English posts.  I'd much rather Merit users than getting them banned, but I also enjoy reading a forum without plagiarism and spam.

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October 14, 2021, 02:01:12 AM
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Hi, I have 33 posts but still detected by 28 activity. is there need time for verified my activity here?

And I have 1 merit, when I got it, should I used it after got it or can I save it?

Need some help regarding of my level here. Thank you
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October 14, 2021, 02:20:33 AM
Merited by DdmrDdmr (6)
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Hi, I have 33 posts but still detected by 28 activity. is there need time for verified my activity here?

And I have 1 merit, when I got it, should I used it after got it or can I save it?

Need some help regarding of my level here. Thank you
activities are given every two weeks. in the next activity distribution, you'll get another 14 activities as long as you made a post inside the two weeks period.

And I have 1 merit, when I got it, should I used it after got it or can I save it?
you can't send your merit but you can send sMerit. you can get 1 sMerit(sendable merit) every time you get two merits.

Need some help regarding of my level here. Thank you
I suggest reading this thread Newbies - Read before posting all the basic things that you need to know about the forum, merit, ranks, activities, forum rules, etc... are in there.

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October 14, 2021, 08:05:32 AM
Merited by BlackHatCoiner (2)
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Hi, I have 33 posts but still detected by 28 activity. is there need time for verified my activity here?
You need atleast 30 activity to reach the junior member rank as you have qualified for the 1 merit required and only need to have 2 more activity left to rank up.As said it is distributed every two weeks

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1 X 14 = 14
2 X 14 = 28
3 X 14 = 42  ---  Junior. Member (1.5 month)
4 X 14 = 56
5 X 14 = 70  ---  Member (2.5 month)
6 X 14 = 84
7 X 14 = 98
8 X 14 = 112
9 X 14 = 126  --- Full Member (4.5 month)
10 X 14 = 140
11 X 14 = 154
12 X 14 = 168
13 X 14 = 182
14 X 14 = 196
15 X 14 = 210
16 X 14 = 224
17 X 14 = 238
18 X 14 = 252 --- Senior Member (8.5 month)
19 X 14 = 266
20 X 14 = 280
21 X 14 = 294
22 X 14 = 308
23 X 14 = 322
24 X 14 = 336
25 X 14 = 350
26 X 14 = 364
27 X 14 = 378
28 X 14 = 392
29 X 14 = 406
30 X 14 = 420
31 X 14 = 434
32 X 14 = 448
33 X 14 = 462
34 X 14 = 476
35 X 14 = 490  ----  Hero Member (1.3 years)
36 X 14 = 504
37 X 14 = 518
38 X 14 = 532
39 X 14 = 546
40 X 14 = 560
41 X 14 = 574
42 X 14 = 588
43 X 14 = 602
44 X 14 = 616
45 X 14 = 630
46 X 14 = 644
47 X 14 = 658
48 X 14 = 672
49 X 14 = 686
50 X 14 = 700
51 X 14 = 714
52 X 14 = 728
53 X 14 = 742
54 X 14 = 756
55 X 14 = 770
56 X 14 = 784  --- Legendary rank (2 years)

So you see 1.5 month is the time period for achieving junior member rank and you have registered on 28 th September which means you have account registered 17 days back and with next 14 activity distribution you need to be active.

And I have 1 merit, when I got it, should I used it after got it or can I save it?
You have received 1 merit but you cannot send any merit to other members as you don't have any smerit which every member recieve on 2 merits gained.You cannot save your merits and smeirts as they decay after certain period of time so be sure about it.

For further help read this: FAQ: Everything you need to know about forum 'activity, account ranks and merit

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October 14, 2021, 03:59:27 PM
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And I have 1 merit, when I got it, should I used it after got it or can I save it?
You have received 1 merit but you cannot send any merit to other members as you don't have any smerit which every member recieve on 2 merits gained.You cannot save your merits and smeirts as they decay after certain period of time so be sure about it.

Just to be clear, smerits do not decay.  You can hoard them if you want, there is no rule requiring you to spend your smerits. 

In other words, you earn 1 smerit in your smerit bank for every 2 merits that you receive, and it's up to you regarding how or if you spend your smerits, and your not punished (at least not at this time) for choosing NOT to spend any of your smerits.. they will just continue to build up in your bank as long as you continue. 

Of course, each rank also has a minimum level of merits that you must have received as well as the activity level has to be at the right height, too, in order to rank up to the next level.  Here's additional substantive points for link provided above by aysg76.

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Ranks and activity:

Brand New: 0 posts
Newbie: 1-29 activity
Jr. Member: 30-59 activity
Member:   60-119 activity
Full Member: 120-239 activity
Sr. Member: 240-479 activity
Hero Member: 480 activity
Legendary: Somewhere between 775 and 1030 activity

Merit:

In addition to Activity you now need Merit to achieve each rank. The required merit is detailed below:

Brand new: 0
Newbie:   0
Jr Member: 1
Member: 10
Full Member: 100
Sr. Member: 250
Hero Member: 500
Legendary: 1000
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November 04, 2021, 01:40:11 PM
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And I have 1 merit, when I got it, should I used it after got it or can I save it?
You have received 1 merit but you cannot send any merit to other members as you don't have any smerit which every member recieve on 2 merits gained.You cannot save your merits and smeirts as they decay after certain period of time so be sure about it.

Just to be clear, smerits do not decay.  You can hoard them if you want, there is no rule requiring you to spend your smerits. 

In other words, you earn 1 smerit in your smerit bank for every 2 merits that you receive, and it's up to you regarding how or if you spend your smerits, and your not punished (at least not at this time) for choosing NOT to spend any of your smerits.. they will just continue to build up in your bank as long as you continue. 

Of course, each rank also has a minimum level of merits that you must have received as well as the activity level has to be at the right height, too, in order to rank up to the next level.  Here's additional substantive points for link provided above by aysg76.

>>>>>>>>
Ranks and activity:

Brand New: 0 posts
Newbie: 1-29 activity
Jr. Member: 30-59 activity
Member:   60-119 activity
Full Member: 120-239 activity
Sr. Member: 240-479 activity
Hero Member: 480 activity
Legendary: Somewhere between 775 and 1030 activity

Merit:

In addition to Activity you now need Merit to achieve each rank. The required merit is detailed below:

Brand new: 0
Newbie:   0
Jr Member: 1
Member: 10
Full Member: 100
Sr. Member: 250
Hero Member: 500
Legendary: 1000
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how can i earn more merit?
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November 04, 2021, 03:01:49 PM
Merited by fillippone (3)
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how can i earn more merit?

My advice is to start researching other parts of the forum besides the local board where most of your posts are. Whether the point is that these posts are bad or your local board has no merit sources, the question remains for those who understand your language.

In a nutshell, be helpful to the forum and try to engage in discussions that genuinely interest you, there is no magic formula.

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November 05, 2021, 12:20:54 AM
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how can i earn more merit?

Without focusing too much on this question, first of all.

Second: I wrote something that you might fin useful:

Ranking up is possible! 2900 Merits earned in less than 12 months!My 11 Hints!

Hope it helps!

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November 05, 2021, 06:13:46 AM
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Hope it helps!


I hope for that person's sake their merit ends up being valued monetarily. I didn't even know people on Reddit tokenized karma until months ago so don't believe you'll be finding me trying to rack up the points any time soon. That being sad I don't mind a motivated community member in a place its pretty much impossible to s*itpost for merit Smiley

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November 05, 2021, 07:26:05 AM
Merited by Csmiami (1)
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Hope it helps!


I hope for that person's sake their merit ends up being valued monetarily. I didn't even know people on Reddit tokenized karma until months ago so don't believe you'll be finding me trying to rack up the points any time soon. That being sad I don't mind a motivated community member in a place its pretty much impossible to s*itpost for merit Smiley

I don’t think merits will be monetised anytime soon, as selling merits currently mean immediate ban, as the sale of merits is one of the few explicitly forbidden activities here on the forum.

Having said that, merits are valuable, for the reason I tried to explain in my above thread.

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November 05, 2021, 03:21:32 PM
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Hope it helps!

I hope for that person's sake their merit ends up being valued monetarily. I didn't even know people on Reddit tokenized karma until months ago so don't believe you'll be finding me trying to rack up the points any time soon. That being sad I don't mind a motivated community member in a place its pretty much impossible to s*itpost for merit Smiley

I don’t think merits will be monetised anytime soon, as selling merits currently mean immediate ban, as the sale of merits is one of the few explicitly forbidden activities here on the forum.

Having said that, merits are valuable, for the reason I tried to explain in my above thread.

I agree with the overall point in which I also have doubts that merits are going to become monetized, but never say never if there might not be some other system that could be put into place that would allow for monetezation of forum activity in one manner or another --- if it were to make sense.

Regarding rules against selling of merits - that rule is specific to merit sources, so there may be a need to consider that non-merit source members don't have that same explicit rule in regards to their merits.  There is at least that distinction that has specifically been in place for merit sources since the start of the merit system in January 2018.

Of course, we have to deal with ESG, KYC & AML, but each of them are attack vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized.

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Regarding rules against selling of merits - that rule is specific to merit sources, so there may be a need to consider that non-merit source members don't have that same explicit rule in regards to their merits.  There is at least that distinction that has specifically been in place for merit sources since the start of the merit system in January 2018.
Imo, there should be no difference in penalties between source and non-source merit when they get caught selling merit. This may be the same as punishment for those caught doing plagiarism on purpose regardless of how long they have been here (new members or old members). JayJuanGee, I really never knew there was a specific rule about it because I just knew selling merit was something that was forbidden to everyone regardless of whether they sourced or non-sourced.

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November 05, 2021, 04:08:17 PM
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Regarding rules against selling of merits - that rule is specific to merit sources, so there may be a need to consider that non-merit source members don't have that same explicit rule in regards to their merits.  There is at least that distinction that has specifically been in place for merit sources since the start of the merit system in January 2018.
Imo, there should be no difference in penalties between source and non-source merit when they get caught selling merit. This may be the same as punishment for those caught doing plagiarism on purpose regardless of how long they have been here (new members or old members).

I was merely attempting to be descriptive of what the actual rule is, and sure I understand that some people will flag or distrust some non-source member accounts for their behaviors.  I do believe that theymos specifically made that rule against selling merits for merit sources to make it abundantly clear and thus would give him a clear and unambiguous reason to remove members from being a merit source if they were to engage in such conduct...


JayJuanGee, I really never knew there was a specific rule about it because I just knew selling merit was something that was forbidden to everyone regardless of whether they sourced or non-sourced.

Merit source members have a different kind of notice on their page that comes up every time that they go to spend any of their source merits that non merit source members do not have. 

It says this:
>>>>>
"You have received a total of XXXX merit. This is what determines your forum rank. You typically cannot lose this merit. You have XXX sendable merit (sMerit) which you can send to other people. There is no point in hoarding sMerit; keeping it yourself does not benefit you, and we reserve the right to decay unused sMerit in the future.

You are a merit source. The next XX merit you spend will come from your source rather than your sMerit balance. Merit spent from your source will come back in 30 days. Unused source merit is wasted. It is not allowed for merit sources to sell their merit."
<<<<<<<

I believe that the first paragraph is the same for everyone, and merit sources have the additional second paragraph on their smerit spending page.

Of course, we have to deal with ESG, KYC & AML, but each of them are attack vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized.

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November 05, 2021, 04:55:50 PM
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I don't know why the second paragraph was so secretive before that I can tell you that this is the first time the merit source has featured it for me. For the first paragraph I know that it is the message that is shown to all forum users in the merit link in their profile, no different from the one shown on my profile.

Perhaps because the merit source are those who are entrusted by theymos to run the merit system well, it is only natural that they will suffer more severe consequences than non-source users. This is just my opinion because I don't know what the term is.

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