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March 10, 2019, 02:20:04 PM
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Yesterday I created a post that shows the breakdown of the merit distribution by week, detailing the amount per section/subsection for each week of 2019, and summarizing 2018 as a block. Some local boards seem to be suffering quite a bit, be if due to a lack of decent posts or a lack of awarded merit (i.e. Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Romanian, etc.)

The recent variation from one week to another in terms of net sMerits is small, but regardless we can see the inner doings here:



The chart is broken down by section/subsection (but no further . i.e. childboards), and each numeric column is the week number (where week Nº 10 is the current week and therefore partial). <…>

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March 10, 2019, 04:18:03 PM
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Yesterday I created a post that shows the breakdown of the merit distribution by week, detailing the amount per section/subsection for each week of 2019, and summarizing 2018 as a block. Some local boards seem to be suffering quite a bit, be if due to a lack of decent posts or a lack of awarded merit (i.e. Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Romanian, etc.)
 
Very informative and interesting report.
Also what happened to the Italian board? It has almost disapperared! (Asking for a friend)

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March 11, 2019, 03:12:20 AM
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Yesterday I created a post that shows the breakdown of the merit distribution by week, detailing the amount per section/subsection for each week of 2019, and summarizing 2018 as a block. Some local boards seem to be suffering quite a bit, be if due to a lack of decent posts or a lack of awarded merit (i.e. Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Romanian, etc.)

The recent variation from one week to another in terms of net sMerits is small, but regardless we can see the inner doings here:



The chart is broken down by section/subsection (but no further . i.e. childboards), and each numeric column is the week number (where week Nº 10 is the current week and therefore partial). <…>


This clearly shows that we need more merit sources in our local communities.

There are few requests from members to be a merit source. There are only a few posts supporting these applications because local communities are not big and strong enough to show more support.

With only a few comments these threads are gone between hundreds of others.

I ask everybody to show support in these threads. We need a few posts to get attention please comment there.

First is from @coinlocket$ to be a merit source in Italian local forum. Here link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5119132.msg50107122#msg50107122

Second is from Polish local community member @Bitcryptex. Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5117296.msg50035193#msg50035193



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March 12, 2019, 01:01:54 PM
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This is surprisingly complicated for a Forum.

I'm almost saddened to say I still don't fully understand the concept.
How so? Many big forums I know require likes/upvotes to rank up between a rank and another. This is the same.

Make good posts = get merits = rank up. Easy.

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March 12, 2019, 01:12:33 PM
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This is surprisingly complicated for a Forum.

I'm almost saddened to say I still don't fully understand the concept.
There's a whole section dedicated to newbies, where you can find loads of sources to bettter understand how the forum works, even before how the subject of the forum works (way more difficult!).

Check the board Beginners & Help
There are plenty of guides, like this one I wrote myself just to help newbies writing good post and progress through the ranks: Ranking up is Possible! My top 10 Hints!
Hope it helps.

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March 12, 2019, 01:14:38 PM
Merited by fillippone (1)
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i have 24 activity i will be jr member or not
No. Please stop shitposting. Or wait, let me help you!

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March 12, 2019, 01:15:58 PM
Merited by Foxpup (4), El duderino_ (1)
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This is surprisingly complicated for a Forum.
It might be unusual to link something like merits for posts to your rank on a forum--I've never seen it before--but believe me, it's necessary here.  Don't know how familiar you are with bitcointalk, but a lot of members here are in signature campaigns and thus are paid to post, and as you would expect that attracts a lot of people from all over the world, desperate for money and who aren't necessarily qualified for any sort of writing job in a language they may not be proficient in.  Most sig campaigns only pay for posts in English, and obviously that isn't everyone's first language.  The result is that bitcointalk became flooded with garbage posts, many of which either don't add anything useful or just don't make any sense whatsoever. 

And the higher your rank, the more advertising space you get in your signature, so we had people farming accounts and ranking them up either to sell or to enter into these campaigns.  It got so bad by late 2017 that Theymos finally interceded and created the merit system, and now in order to rank up you need a certain amount of merits to get to each rank.  Merits are given at the discretion of individual members if they have any to give, and the result is that now it's much, much harder to rank up.  That's the history and a description of the merit system in a nutshell.

It's really not all that complicated, because it's basically a "like" function, except that the number of likes (merits) you can give out isn't unlimited.  There are so-called merit sources, members who are given a monthly allocation of sendable merits (sMerits), and their purpose is to liberally merit good posts and thus allow members to rank up, although those merits certainly can be given to Legendary members who can't rank up any more than that.

It's a rough culture here, but you'll figure it out here if you stick around long enough.

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March 12, 2019, 01:17:57 PM
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i have 24 activity i will be jr member or not
No. Please stop shitposting. Or wait, let me help you!
Dear Lord,
that was a bad start....
well done spotting this immediately.

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March 12, 2019, 01:59:58 PM
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i have 24 activity i will be jr member or not
No. Please stop shitposting. Or wait, let me help you!

Dear LoyceV, please give me your phone because my neighbour has lost his dog and we need a highly skilled detective! Are you up to the task? ;P

I'm amazed how you can spot such plagiarism, I guess they posted with one account after the other but still, it's amazing how you spot them.
Thanks for wasting ahem spending your time to help the forums, I'm not being sarcastic, I'm really thankful because the spam annoys me as well! Smiley
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March 12, 2019, 02:17:30 PM
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Dear LoyceV, please give me your phone
I'm quite attached to my phone, you can't have it.

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because my neighbour has lost his dog and we need a highly skilled detective! Are you up to the task? ;P
I only do cats.

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I'm amazed how you can spot such plagiarism
It's easy: if someone has 19 shitposts and 1 decent post, all it takes is copying some text into Google, surround it by double quotes, and report the plagiarism.

I'm really thankful because the spam annoys me as well! Smiley[/quote]
Don't get mad, get even*!

*Does this require a source?

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March 13, 2019, 01:35:42 AM
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The day I get my first merit will be an awesome day. Let's see. I just want to post an ANN and I'm just not having the time to be around here all the time But slowly getting to 30 points at least.

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March 13, 2019, 01:37:33 AM
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The day I get my first merit will be an awesome day. Let's see. I just want to post an ANN and I'm just not having the time to be around here all the time But slowly getting to 30 points at least.
If all you want is to make a cool ANN with images, you can always buy the Copper Member upgrade, which enables images and other small Member-like perks for you.

Newbies can now pay a small fee to enable images

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March 13, 2019, 03:14:08 AM
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Hi bantano,

Whichever ANN you want to make, or posts you want to attach images inside, please remember that you should never over use images.
And if you attach images inside your posts, please remember to use those options:
width and, or height to adjust images to appropriate size in order to avoid over large images, that obviously bring annoying feelings to readers.
For example:
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[img width=x height=y]hyperlink to image[/img]
using x for desired width of your image, whilst using y for height of your image.
And you can use boths options (width, height) or only one of them.

The day I get my first merit will be an awesome day. Let's see. I just want to post an ANN
After the activation of merit system more than one years ago, 30 activity count does  not help you to display images, because you need to get at least 1 merit to become Junior member, that have rights to display images.
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I'm just not having the time to be around here all the time But slowly getting to 30 points at least.
As proposed by others, the best option for you is buying a Copper Member, it is not too expensive, I think.
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March 13, 2019, 03:31:32 AM
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Hi bantano,

Whichever ANN you want to make, or posts you want to attach images inside, please remember that you should never over use images.
And if you attach images inside your posts, please remember to use those options:
width and, or height to adjust images to appropriate size in order to avoid over large images, that obviously bring annoying feelings to readers.
For example:
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[img width=x height=y]hyperlink to image[/img]
using x for desired width of your image, whilst using y for height of your image.
And you can use boths options (width, height) or only one of them.


I like to use images to make substantive points.  When I was a newbie, I did not know how to post images, probably for a year or more of my forum membership.

In the past couple of years, on average, I probably post an image in one in  every 10 posts, and width=200 is a decently small and non-intrusive style to make various points.  Like this one:


Of course, we have to deal with ESG, KYC & AML, but each of them are attack vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized.

Put BTC here: 35EVP8EePt8dyvKHaB7bXaRmKLm22YgRCA

How much alt coin diversification is necessary? if you are investing in Bitcoin, then perhaps 0%?
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March 13, 2019, 03:42:22 AM
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width=200 or 300 is enough to display images, if those images don't contains words/ contents inside.
width=200 is a decently small and non-intrusive style to make various points.  Like this one:
Adjusted your image with width=100. For the emotional icon, I though width=100 is a decent size.  Tongue
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Or width=50, it should be smaller than your avatar.  Tongue
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March 13, 2019, 04:30:52 AM
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width=200 or 300 is enough to display images, if those images don't contains words/ contents inside.
width=200 is a decently small and non-intrusive style to make various points.  Like this one:
Adjusted your image with width=100. For the emotional icon, I though width=100 is a decent size.  Tongue
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Or width=50, it should be smaller than your avatar.  Tongue
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Exactamente!!!  These kinds of image sizes are discretionary choices, and of course, like you mentioned, if there are details within the image, such as text, that you want to be more easily visible, then you may need to make your image(s) larger, and perhaps if you are requoting another poster's image, you could either completely eliminate the image or make it very small, depending on how much of a topic that image might be in your subsequent discussion.

These points are important, not because there is any exact objective standard, but instead, in the context of merit, if you want to earn merit (which is the subject matter of this thread), then you have much better chances if you are attempting to engage with the subject matter, and connecting with some readers of your post that may be willing and able to send you merit.

To your point, thd26bct, if readers find the member annoying because s/he post images that are not substantively relevant to the thread or the current discussion points or the wrong size or even off topic, then the member might neither earn merit(s), but some members might begin to conclude that such member is a non-contributing shit poster.

Of course, we have to deal with ESG, KYC & AML, but each of them are attack vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized.

Put BTC here: 35EVP8EePt8dyvKHaB7bXaRmKLm22YgRCA

How much alt coin diversification is necessary? if you are investing in Bitcoin, then perhaps 0%?
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March 13, 2019, 03:40:13 PM
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Sorry for late update this week, I am a little bit lazy.
Abstract for the last week
Intra-day merits:
Analysis is there

Intra-week merits:
Analysis is there

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March 13, 2019, 03:41:06 PM
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How about if the post merited is deleted? Will the merit count? Or erased too? Because somebody could just use merit for unreasonable purpose.

The merit is not undone if the post is deleted.

Does that mean all merit sources are hand selected?

Right. There are about 35 right now.



Hi theymos,

Could you consider posting a guide to how the Merit system works and the proper use of it in the HELP section along with a few informative links.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=help

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March 14, 2019, 12:19:43 AM
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Hi bantano,

Whichever ANN you want to make, or posts you want to attach images inside, please remember that you should never over use images.
And if you attach images inside your posts, please remember to use those options:
width and, or height to adjust images to appropriate size in order to avoid over large images, that obviously bring annoying feelings to readers.
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After the activation of merit system more than one years ago, 30 activity count does  not help you to display images, because you need to get at least 1 merit to become Junior member, that have rights to display images.


Hi,
thanks to you and the others for your help. Regarding not overusing images and scaling them properly I couldn't agree more. I'll make sure this will be done properly.

Regarding the 1 merit I'll need and the alternative to pay the fee, I've heard from it but dislike the idea to pay for the option to post here. There's no urgency and maybe eventually someone will be super nice and give me the merit. We've now waited for about a year since the project started, and having the ANN post is rather one thing on my list I always wanted to get done than an essential, urgent issue.

So I'll just hang around here from time to time, maybe better anyway to wait for a little better sentiment before going ahead and posting the ANN anyway.

Thanks again, and keep up the good work guys Wink

Cheers,
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March 15, 2019, 01:42:54 AM
Last edit: March 15, 2019, 01:53:42 AM by tranthidung
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can someone explain to me how to increase activity
Wait a minute, I will give you links.
FAQ: Everything you need to know about forum 'activity, account ranks and merit (Pinned topic).
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1 X 14 = 14
2 X 14 = 28
3 X 14 = 42  ---  Junior. Member (1.5 month)
4 X 14 = 56
5 X 14 = 70  ---  Member (2.5 month)
6 X 14 = 84
7 X 14 = 98
8 X 14 = 112
9 X 14 = 126  --- Full Member (4.5 month)
10 X 14 = 140
11 X 14 = 154
12 X 14 = 168
13 X 14 = 182
14 X 14 = 196
15 X 14 = 210
16 X 14 = 224
17 X 14 = 238
18 X 14 = 252 --- Senior Member (8.5 month)
19 X 14 = 266
20 X 14 = 280
21 X 14 = 294
22 X 14 = 308
23 X 14 = 322
24 X 14 = 336
25 X 14 = 350
26 X 14 = 364
27 X 14 = 378
28 X 14 = 392
29 X 14 = 406
30 X 14 = 420
31 X 14 = 434
32 X 14 = 448
33 X 14 = 462
34 X 14 = 476
35 X 14 = 490  ----  Hero Member (1.3 years)
36 X 14 = 504
37 X 14 = 518
38 X 14 = 532
39 X 14 = 546
40 X 14 = 560
41 X 14 = 574
42 X 14 = 588
43 X 14 = 602
44 X 14 = 616
45 X 14 = 630
46 X 14 = 644
47 X 14 = 658
48 X 14 = 672
49 X 14 = 686
50 X 14 = 700
51 X 14 = 714
52 X 14 = 728
53 X 14 = 742
54 X 14 = 756
55 X 14 = 770
56 X 14 = 784  --- Legendary rank (2 years)
Required period to get activity points
The activity number is determined in this way:
time = number of two-week periods in which you've posted since your registration
activity = min(time * 14, posts)
Besides activity points, for ranks from Junior Member and above, you will need another point, merit points.
There is a topic on Merit $ new rank requirements
In short:
RankRequired activityRequired merit
Brand new00
Newbie10
Jr Member301
Member6010
Full Member120100
Sr. Member240250
Hero Member480500
LegendaryRandom in the range 775-10301000

Let's take my case as an example.
With old rank requirements, I could reach the Senior Member rank after 8.5 months, if I made enough posts for each 14-day period, and satisfied postcount of Senior Member rank.
Unfortunately, with the new rank requirements, it has actually taken me around one year and a half (double the minimum time required with old rank requirements) to hit the finish line.
Eventually, I hit the line yesterday.
Keep learning, and grow up, noob.

I gave you some important topics.
1) [GUIDES] on Bitcointalk. Index thread (until there is a dedicated subforum?) (Very important topic, in which you can find almost everything you need)
2) Inspirational stories from self-made promoted users (Read, and learn from those stories)
3) [CLUBS] Top Merited-Users Classified into 4 Clubs (Learn from those top merit-receivers and their merited-posts/ topics)

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