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March 13, 2014, 10:03:50 PM
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Those are obviously very elaborate and sophisticated renders!

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nah, those are created using a 3d printer

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Well, the case in the third picture technically is. Tongue

The pink case does look like a 3D print.
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March 13, 2014, 11:00:28 PM
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yes, they have been playing with 3d printing for their cases since late last year... my experience from printing 3d isn't that good, I have found it to be more of a "dollar store" cheap and breakable type plastic... (yet very light).

Has anyone played with 3d printers and different "printer resin" and quality?

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March 13, 2014, 11:27:05 PM
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The prototypes really give an appreciation of the magnitude of what you are trying to achieve. I really hope there remains a viable business model for all your efforts. The work to build an end to end system from scratch is truly noteworthy.
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March 15, 2014, 01:45:17 AM
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ermegherd! we will never get roi! /btc prices never ever rise and whatever you make today will never be worth more tomorow!!
dont spend x dollars today cause you wont get it back EVER EVER EVER!

fud shit morons, go find some new forums you can spread your shit...

these guys are doing good hard work, if your to cheap to spend you precious fiat on it its your loss. stop spreading Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt just cause your a dumb ass.

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March 15, 2014, 10:46:17 AM
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So, if i ordered prospero x-3. As i know there will be 2 boxes. 2 devices x 1TH. So if PSU is integrated, that means its already inside the device? But what about ethernet cables, are they included in our package or we have to get them by ourselves? And as I understand we will need 2x ethernet cable as there will be 2 devices?
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March 15, 2014, 10:49:47 AM
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So, if i ordered prospero x-3. As i know there will be 2 boxes. 2 devices x 1TH. So if PSU is integrated, that means its already inside the device? But what about ethernet cables, are they included in our package or we have to get them by ourselves? And as I understand we will need 2x ethernet cable as there will be 2 devices?
you are worrying about an RJ45 (ehternet) cable? are you serious? you can get those anywhere... i would rather worry about getting the ASIC itself.

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March 15, 2014, 04:38:58 PM
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Any update on cash refunds, BA? My support ticket has gone unanswered for over a week now..   Undecided
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March 15, 2014, 06:27:13 PM
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As much as I am sceptical to the whole BA debacle, my refund request from Minersource went through ok and without much hassle. So kudos to Minersource for that at least!
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March 15, 2014, 09:12:46 PM
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Any update on cash refunds, BA? My support ticket has gone unanswered for over a week now..   Undecided

from the last BA progress update:

8.Customer support:
a.We are still lagging behind and have a queue of 700 tickets. We are deeply sorry for the inconvenience please bear with us until we get this sorted. Our most experienced agent (Julia) is in maternal leave, the next experienced one (Alexey) is working on the case half time and the 3rd one (Sylvia) is in training. We have one other agent (Matt) working part time, remotely, but his limited time does not allow him to make much progress.
b.Customers must understand that our headquarters from China do not have access to Facebook. This account is maintained from abroad and they are unable to access any customer support issues.
c.Few customers have requested refunds. Please rest assured that we will refund the USD in May and we are trying to refund BTCs sooner but we are waiting for a legal document which was not returned yet. Please note that customers opening more tickets will just get you back to the end of the queue as we reply the tickets in the reverse order of activity.
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bobsag3 would you mind answering a few question's ? You have been to London and have met with Blackarrow
would you mind sharing with us your thought's on what type of person he is,Did he come across as genuine to you ?
did it sound like he had good intention's,Did he seem motivated to get thing's done.Can you please give us a picture
of who we are dealing with hear.Your PR/CS is Diabolical people very much need reassuring regularly that there investment is safe
and that there miner's are in the pipeline. There seems to be a lot of Doom and Gloom post's on hear and me personally i don't
want to read/hear that i have been conned weather it is true or not it is not good new's and i would rather not read it.
people have and can make up there own mind's about what is going on.I myself have a bit more faith and do believe BA will deliver
eventually but it is when is what i am most concerned about.By this stage i would have expected and update saying we are waiting on the arrival of the chip's everything else is more or less in place and we are looking forward to shipping your unit's as soon as they are assembled.  My view/Neutral stance

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March 16, 2014, 03:33:58 PM
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Any update on cash refunds, BA? My support ticket has gone unanswered for over a week now..   Undecided

from the last BA progress update:

8.Customer support:
a.We are still lagging behind and have a queue of 700 tickets. We are deeply sorry for the inconvenience please bear with us until we get this sorted. Our most experienced agent (Julia) is in maternal leave, the next experienced one (Alexey) is working on the case half time and the 3rd one (Sylvia) is in training. We have one other agent (Matt) working part time, remotely, but his limited time does not allow him to make much progress.
b.Customers must understand that our headquarters from China do not have access to Facebook. This account is maintained from abroad and they are unable to access any customer support issues.
c.Few customers have requested refunds. Please rest assured that we will refund the USD in May and we are trying to refund BTCs sooner but we are waiting for a legal document which was not returned yet. Please note that customers opening more tickets will just get you back to the end of the queue as we reply the tickets in the reverse order of activity.


My sister addresses 300-400 emails a day from truckers, not an easy crowd to address. Also, during her 8 hour shift, she books hotel rooms and places calls to convenience stores making them aware of What Nut (inside joke--see AMT if curious). Her initial training period was 3 days after leaving the warehouse floor. She has no formal education to perform said tasks.

These assholes are lying!

Are the emails in Chinese?
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March 16, 2014, 04:19:06 PM
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bobsag3 would you mind answering a few question's ? You have been to London and have met with Blackarrow........


Yes he has gone there and will again when the units are ready to ship,he took photos of what he could at the time, go back to around page 40 of the topic and work your up you will find the discussion at the time.ecointalk has lots of photos in the gallery and is bit easier to read through. Don't worry about all negative shit you see posted here by the 4-5 trolls,they get their jollies by highjacking forum topics with one hand,tug'n their funny bone with the other.One in particular would likely abuse himself to death he erver lost is internet for more than an hour.

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March 18, 2014, 12:26:26 PM
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I dunno, i ordered an x-1 waaaay back in sept when the price was damn nice on these things for a feb delivery. Now with the announcement of the s2 coming out, it seems like these are going to be pretty useless when they finally launch. Not a significant power savings or anything. This technology is going to be dated before it even hits our hands.

I was really hoping this wasn't going to be an issue as it seems like a fucking headache to figure out but "Black Arrow Ltd are actively monitoring the market to remain competitive and are seeking to become a major player in this field. They are currently offering an attractive offer: customers placing orders now will be protected against any price decrease prior delivery on the original price tag by being offered a proportional increase in hashing power at no extra charge. The sales model on the new line is attractive to their first customers who are guaranteed to receive a much improved deal."

I think by the time these hit they are going to wind up having to sell them cheaper than they were originally selling them for with the discount and such.

1 th for 3600 bucks april 10th from a company with an actual track record of delivering goods.

The heat is on, someone is going to get burned.

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March 18, 2014, 02:30:53 PM
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pre-order=pre-order=unacceptable.

imho

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March 18, 2014, 08:18:13 PM
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pre-order=pre-order=unacceptable.

imho

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Keep me out of this!!!  I got my refund & now have 900GH of Antminers  Grin

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March 18, 2014, 09:51:18 PM
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bobsag3 would you mind answering a few question's ? You have been to London and have met with Blackarrow........


Yes he has gone there and will again when the units are ready to ship,he took photos of what he could at the time, go back to around page 40 of the topic and work your up you will find the discussion at the time.ecointalk has lots of photos in the gallery and is bit easier to read through. Don't worry about all negative shit you see posted here by the 4-5 trolls,they get their jollies by highjacking forum topics with one hand,tug'n their funny bone with the other.One in particular would likely abuse himself to death he erver lost is internet for more than an hour.

I bet you're talking about me. BTW, AMT and Bitmine have bit the dust. Know what else? DZ is MIA, thus no more Hawaiian Vetting Service. Don't worry, though. There's a new bitcoin miner seller up and running to order from and jack off on all the shinny renditions.

Hey PG, why don't you go do some investigative reports on something like this instead:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=485237.0


They could probably use your talents over on that thread.  I think we got it under control with BA for now.

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March 19, 2014, 01:39:35 AM
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bobsag3 would you mind answering a few question's ? You have been to London and have met with Blackarrow........


Yes he has gone there and will again when the units are ready to ship,he took photos of what he could at the time, go back to around page 40 of the topic and work your up you will find the discussion at the time.ecointalk has lots of photos in the gallery and is bit easier to read through. Don't worry about all negative shit you see posted here by the 4-5 trolls,they get their jollies by highjacking forum topics with one hand,tug'n their funny bone with the other.One in particular would likely abuse himself to death he erver lost is internet for more than an hour.

I bet you're talking about me. BTW, AMT and Bitmine have bit the dust. Know what else? DZ is MIA, thus no more Hawaiian Vetting Service. Don't worry, though. There's a new bitcoin miner seller up and running to order from and jack off on all the shinny renditions.

Hey PG, why don't you go do some investigative reports on something like this instead:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=485237.0


They could probably use your talents over on that thread.  I think we got it under control with BA for now.

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Sure, whatever you say, bud. Just remember cocksuskers, I'm the one that spent 100s of hours in supplying you crazy fucks the information needed when these fuckers go AWOL.

BTW, DZ, the almighty vetter, is already gone.

Is it possible he is currently in Malaysia vetting Pilots?


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fucking fuck, i never got my refund.

and others got their refund?

sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

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Interesting Developments in the ASIC manufacturing marketplace.

Alpha t has had pre-orders for Scrypt based mining units going since January or so.  Price ~ €5950 for 25 MH units.

Today KnC comes out and says it's offering 100 MH units for 9995.00 US

Within hours Alpha publishes the following:

"We would like to assure you we are very aware of our competitors hash rates and pricing and intend to match them, we started development in May 2013 and are on schedule to ship in July giving us the clear lead. During development we decided to make our units larger and upgradable so we could accommodate increased hash rates with ease, we gave ourselves this leeway for a variety of reasons. And the announcement of Scrypt miners from competitors was of course one such reason that we anticipated and planned for. A full announcement with details on our new batch 1 hash rates will be released very soon!"


Sounds familiar ...

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"Our pricing model is exactly on target for what we expected to come to market from competition. I would say, do not presume we did not plan for this"

https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=2702.msg146120#msg146120

Sounds like scrypt miner manufacturers are better planners than sha256  Grin
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March 19, 2014, 05:26:36 PM
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fucking fuck, i never got my refund.

and others got their refund?

sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

I can't get my refund from 25/02/2014. My order  #675, and i paid 100% at November 2013 at Bitcoin.  I can understand the delay in production, but can not understand why Black Arrow does not return money. Maybe they scammers?
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