[ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated]

[VolanicEruptor]

Ken what about the time-stamp we need to enter. I think we were all given a time-stamp in our local times?

Ken, when you say you'll need the date and time of share transfer, do I have to convert it to your time zone? 

If you have been reading the thread, you would know this!

[SoylentCreek]

Cool, so anyone who doesn't have a photo can just log in to Bitfunder and take those details from their logs.

Yes, if Bitfunder comes back up.  Should anyone not have access to that information, we will use their registered Bitcoin address as a backup.

i want to understand that bolded sentence,  do you mean you have list of user and associated btc address,

The public asset list is here: https://bitfunder.com/assetlist.json.

If you can sign from the address listed, you will have no problem claiming the shares. If you can't, you can work with Ukyo using your Bitfunder account login to claim the shares. Either way I don't think there will be any problem.

There's a huge problem with that list.. all of the shares are tendered to the address of AMC-TENDER, so therefore do not show up.  This is what I was trying to warn everybody about

I meant most of the shares.  Look at the address that holds 8.5 million shares.  That's where most of us are..

We have a number of "Asset List" saved,  to verify your shares with the Bitcoin address you will need to send a signed message which includes the date of your transfer, your Bitfunder username, the number of shares transferred, and the email address you want Crypto-Trade to create an account with.  Of course the Bitcoin address you send the signed message from has to be in anyone of our saved "Asset List".

What happens if we do not remember what day we initiated the transfer?  I understand that there will be little need to worry assuming Bitfunder is brought back online, but the only person who knows when or if that will happen is Ukyo.  

Edit: Never mind, already answered.  One last question, what happens if the withdrawal address was one that could not be signed from (say a paper wallet)?

Well, if you have been reading the thread, we have said a number of times that you need to be able to sign the message, again this is just the backup system.

I am asking for the sake of others.  None of that was included in the official announcements section of this thread, which is where most people who are not wanting to pour over hundreds of pages of bullshit have been going.  If a screenshot of the transfer, date/time, or signable address were prerequisites, they should have been included in the official procedures.  

[Stuartuk]

Ken what about the time-stamp we need to enter. I think we were all given a time-stamp in our local times?

Ken, when you say you'll need the date and time of share transfer, do I have to convert it to your time zone? 

If you have been reading the thread, you would know this!

I don't think so.

[SoylentCreek]

Ken what about the time-stamp we need to enter. I think we were all given a time-stamp in our local times?

Ken, when you say you'll need the date and time of share transfer, do I have to convert it to your time zone? 

If you have been reading the thread, you would know this!

I don't think so.

He was being sarcastic.  That was essentially Ken's answer to one of my questions just a few posts above.

[Stuartuk]

He was being sarcastic.

OK, a bit tenuous.

[Stuartuk]

I am asking for the sake of others.  None of that was included in the official announcements section of this thread, which is where most people who are not wanting to pour over hundreds of pages of bullshit have been going.  If a screenshot of the transfer, date/time, or signable address were prerequisites, they should have been included in the official procedures.  

Fair point. But to be fair to Ken he did come on the thread to mention these details and then following that everytime anyone asked about the transfer procedure they did get a full answer including mentions of the screenshot and signable address.

We all knew the official announcement omitted these two details but none of us thought to ask Ken to change the announcement page. So our fault as well as his for the oversight.

[kslaughter]

Cool, so anyone who doesn't have a photo can just log in to Bitfunder and take those details from their logs.

Yes, if Bitfunder comes back up.  Should anyone not have access to that information, we will use their registered Bitcoin address as a backup.

i want to understand that bolded sentence,  do you mean you have list of user and associated btc address,

The public asset list is here: https://bitfunder.com/assetlist.json.

If you can sign from the address listed, you will have no problem claiming the shares. If you can't, you can work with Ukyo using your Bitfunder account login to claim the shares. Either way I don't think there will be any problem.

There's a huge problem with that list.. all of the shares are tendered to the address of AMC-TENDER, so therefore do not show up.  This is what I was trying to warn everybody about

I meant most of the shares.  Look at the address that holds 8.5 million shares.  That's where most of us are..

We have a number of "Asset List" saved,  to verify your shares with the Bitcoin address you will need to send a signed message which includes the date of your transfer, your Bitfunder username, the number of shares transferred, and the email address you want Crypto-Trade to create an account with.  Of course the Bitcoin address you send the signed message from has to be in anyone of our saved "Asset List".

What happens if we do not remember what day we initiated the transfer?  I understand that there will be little need to worry assuming Bitfunder is brought back online, but the only person who knows when or if that will happen is Ukyo.  

Edit: Never mind, already answered.  One last question, what happens if the withdrawal address was one that could not be signed from (say a paper wallet)?

Well, if you have been reading the thread, we have said a number of times that you need to be able to sign the message, again this is just the backup system.

I am asking for the sake of others.  None of that was included in the official announcements section of this thread, which is where most people who are not wanting to pour over hundreds of pages of bullshit have been going.  If a screenshot of the transfer, date/time, or signable address were prerequisites, they should have been included in the official procedures.  

Screenshots are not required they only help if something goes wrong, the only thing required is your Bitfunder username and having a public bitcoin address (see below).  We would like the number of shares transferred, and the date and time of the transfer also.  The automated system will require this; however, that does not mean that your shares will not get transferred.

From Bitfunder:

As of December 2, BitFunder will initiate a transfer from the BitFunder site to the respective issuer(s) of any remaining shares held by BitFunder users, and will provide the issuer(s) with the public bitcoin address associated with the user account. After transfer, each user will need to work with the issuer(s) with respect to the future treatment of the shares.

[Stuartuk]

Good come-back Ken!  

[shadallion]

The Crypto-Trade.com site is pretty smooth and easy to navigate.  I was able to deposit BTC and place a buy order very easily.

Really hoping some of you dissatisfied investors dump your shares immediately, and then please vanish from this thread forever, for your sanity and ours.

[zumzero]

Amen.

Edit: the sooner this gets back to a circle jerk the better! 

[SoylentCreek]

Good come-back Ken!  

Are you five?  Seriously, I am not arguing that Ken did not at one point mention that at some point in this thread, I am suggesting that THAT particular quote should have been in the official procedure listed under announcements.  I would imagine that there are going to be a handful of people who have not been following this as closely as most of us here, and there are probably a good chunk of people who are not even familiar with signing.  

[Stuartuk]

Really hoping some of you dissatisfied investors dump your shares immediately, and then please vanish from this thread forever, for your sanity and ours.

Yes but unfortunately it looks like crumbs is here for the long-haul. As soon as he gets his shares he will be the biggest cheerleader going.

Hilarious that he doesn't know that an order book is different from a transaction log - 'where did these come from' (quotes pre-trade order book thinking they are past trades). lol

What a prat. And he thinks there are 48weeks in a year.



IF he comes back on here between now and when we go live you know it is with one purpose. TO FUD holders into selling cheap into his buy orders. This man is ruthless, heartless and only out for himself. He  would trample over any one of us to get his own way. There are a lot of people who support each other on here but this guy is pure selfish greed. Do NOT sell your shares cheap.
MAKE THIS TROLL PAY TOP DOLLAR

[Vigil]

Really hoping some of you dissatisfied investors dump your shares immediately, and then please vanish from this thread forever, for your sanity and ours.

Yes but unfortunately it looks like crumbs is here for the long-haul. As soon as he gets his shares he will be the biggest cheerleader going.

Hilarious that he doesn't know that an order book is different from a transaction log - 'where did these come from' (quotes pre-trade order book thinking they are past trades). lol

What a prat. And he thinks there are 48weeks in a year.



IF he comes back on here between now and when we go live you know it is with one purpose. TO FUD holders into selling cheap into his buy orders. This man is ruthless, heartless and only out for himself. He  would trample over over any one of us to get his own way. There are a lot of people who support each other on here but this guy is pure selfish greed. Do NOT sell your shares cheap.
MAKE THIS TROLL PAY TOP DOLLAR

He would trample over his own grandmother...

[JoTheKhan]

So Ken. When should we expect shares to be sent out?

[zefyr0s]

Well, when can we expect the verification site to be up and running rather.

[Stuartuk]

I am suggesting that THAT particular quote should have been in the official procedure listed under announcements.  

Yes I totally agree which is what I said - it should have been put into the official post on here.

It was mentioned on the official announcement post on Bitfunder which means Ken has not been negligent which is why I said it was a good reply/come-back. Sorry if that offended you.

Edit - you would need to be familiar with this thread to get my post, which you are not, sorry.

[SoylentCreek]

I am suggesting that THAT particular quote should have been in the official procedure listed under announcements. 

Yes I totally agree which is what I said - it should have been put into the official post on here.

It was mentioned on the official announcement post on Bitfunder which means Ken has not been negligent which is why I said it was a good reply/come-back. Sorry if that offended you.

Edit - you would need to be familiar with this thread to get my post, which you are not, sorry.

I am well familiar with this thread.  I just don't care.

[Vigil]

Can we get a grammar correction on the Cryptotrader ActM section as well?

[VolanicEruptor]

I am suggesting that THAT particular quote should have been in the official procedure listed under announcements. 

Yes I totally agree which is what I said - it should have been put into the official post on here.

It was mentioned on the official announcement post on Bitfunder which means Ken has not been negligent which is why I said it was a good reply/come-back. Sorry if that offended you.

Edit - you would need to be familiar with this thread to get my post, which you are not, sorry.

I am well familiar with this thread.  I just don't care.

Yeah you should be reading the thread more often because now you're an outsider and not part the Activemining Bitcoin Mining Team.

[SoylentCreek]

I am suggesting that THAT particular quote should have been in the official procedure listed under announcements. 

Yes I totally agree which is what I said - it should have been put into the official post on here.

It was mentioned on the official announcement post on Bitfunder which means Ken has not been negligent which is why I said it was a good reply/come-back. Sorry if that offended you.

Edit - you would need to be familiar with this thread to get my post, which you are not, sorry.

I am well familiar with this thread.  I just don't care.

Yeah you should be reading the thread more often because now you're an outsider and not part the Activemining Bitcoin Mining Team.

Unlike Stuartuk, I actually have a life that does not revolve around waiting around my keyboard, hoping to catch the slightest wiff of a fart from Ken.