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Yeah, right, and I am the king of England. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) original deposit address https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1J1cRAYXaeYzBp9hXqF9EiJBn4V1sttfdUno trace of 330 BTC paid as always, Shitbet scams people and their paid Bitcointalk dogs spread the shill BTW ive sent an email to DMCA about Shitbet stealing images of pro players to promote betting
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February 20, 2019, 02:59:41 PM |
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I have removed my red trust on Cloudbet as I do think they don't deserve to to be tagged from the Swofty's mistakes as its the reason why it got hold for a long time in the first place. However I made my feedback to neutral to keep it as a reminder to members here in the forum. Lol, as he is a Filipino
Massive concentration of liars, scammers and people lacking intelligence.
Enjoy.
Says the guy who got several negative feedbacks already.
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February 20, 2019, 03:01:49 PM |
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I have removed my red trust on Cloudbet as I do think they don't deserve to to be tagged from the Swofty's mistakes as its the reason why it got hold for a long time in the first place. However I made my feedback to neutral to keep it as a reminder to members here in the forum. Lol, as he is a Filipino
Massive concentration of liars, scammers and people lacking intelligence.
Enjoy.
Says the guy who got several negative feedbacks already. Well Shitbet got 8x worse rep, and now your licking your own piss. I don't mind idiots giving me bad rep, cause I know it's from idiots. Idiots = 0 IQ = 0 worth opinion Btw here you go, enjoy lol
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February 20, 2019, 03:07:58 PM |
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I feel bad now for red trusting Cloudbet. I’ve removed it but FFS swofty stop being shady. This mess really didn’t need to happen.
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February 20, 2019, 03:11:37 PM |
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"Hey DMCA, you know there is some illegal gambling site called Shitbet stealing images of professional athletes? I suggest you contact the rightful owners, free money in sight. Regards." ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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February 20, 2019, 03:59:55 PM |
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Lol, as he is a Filipino
Massive concentration of liars, scammers and people lacking intelligence.
Enjoy.
Says the guy who got several negative feedbacks already. Well Shitbet got 8x worse rep, and now your licking your own piss. I tagged them from what they did and I changed it to neutral as the issue has now been resolved. I don't know where you got your shitty theory but Swofty admitted it himself that it was entirely his fault for the delay and that he have received his 330 BTC winning. I don't mind idiots giving me bad rep, cause I know it's from idiots.
Idiots = 0 IQ = 0 worth opinion
Btw here you go, enjoy lol
The "idiots" you are calling are trusted members here in the community, they don't earn the reputation of being a DT from being a scammer and spammer like you. If there is an idiot here in the forum it is you as you are just a low life member here trying to scam people in order for you to earn money, which by the way you have failed from doing.
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February 20, 2019, 04:28:27 PM |
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bla bla bla
Stop. You are not trusted in your own house. Nobody cares about your worthless opinion. Nobody asked you anything. Lol - "my shitty theory" is a sign which shows just how stupid you are. Topic is about Shitbet, not about me. BTW i will not stop until I bury Shitbet and your horde of shillers/scammers 7 feet under ground. MMW
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February 20, 2019, 09:20:13 PM Last edit: February 20, 2019, 09:40:28 PM by marlboroza |
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I feel bad now for red trusting Cloudbet. I’ve removed it but FFS swofty stop being shady. This mess really didn’t need to happen.
Is it swofty's fault they let him to deposit 129 btc, gamble, win and then delay? I don't think so. What about swofty's previous winnings? He posted screenshot of withdrawing 52 btc at the same day they blocked his account, I don't see Cloudbet made any comment on that. As the matter of fact, they didn't comment 3 big withdrawals before they blocked his account.
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February 20, 2019, 10:34:28 PM |
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these questions will probably never be answered, sadly . it's funny that when they had to pay, every single thing mattered, but when they had to get paid, even assuming the player admitted he stole that BTC , i am betting the horse they would have still accepted it. this makes me wonder, how much money they have kept from players who don't have a filipino friend? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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February 20, 2019, 10:36:43 PM Last edit: February 20, 2019, 10:56:45 PM by marlboroza |
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Swofty never made any of the deposits.
Swofty wasn’t the account owner. And lied about being the account owner from the get go. Swofty was never the account owner.
Swofty was a paid actor who lives in the Philippines who was impersonating the real account owner.
You don't get it, don't you? He posted screenshot of withdrawing 52 btc at the same day they blocked his account, I don't see Cloudbet made any comment on that. As the matter of fact, they didn't comment 3 big withdrawals before they blocked his account. How do you explain this? And how not-account-owner signed those messages from addresses that account owner made deposits? Actor has private keys and everything is fabricated? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) What swofty did was fraud. Cloudbet spotted fraud and rightfully stopped the additional withdrawals to investigate. After the investigation concluded Cloudbet proved the user knowingly committed fraud.
What do you think how many people from wrong locations are gambling in Cloudbet and other crypto casinos at the moment? Is every player who uses vpn investigated and asked KYC or this rule applies only to players with bigger withdrawals?
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February 20, 2019, 11:35:53 PM |
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I don’t know what triggers KYC...
I know you don't. But Cloudbets suspicions were correct.
After fourth withdrawal, right? The player did multiple large withdrawals in a short time frame. I’m sure that would flag a account at any book.
And 129btc deposit would not? Hypothetically speaking, player loses 129 btc, nothing is suspicious. Player loses another 129btc and it doesn't trigger anything. Third time player come, deposit 129 btc and wins 400 btc - and all of sudden - red flags, drama, fraud, investigation, wrong location, KYC etc etc..right? I will politely leave this thread now.
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Don't be so naive marlboroza, obviously no red flags can arise when people deposit and lose as there's literally nothing in place to trigger such things (it is up to the user to make sure they are in compliance with ToS). You saw just earlier in this thread a guy that tried to withdraw 1.7 BTC and the KYC was triggered, after he had lost.
I've been gambling online for over 10 years and this is how it works in the gambling industry. You as a player are liable when you deposit, the house is liable when you want to withdraw.
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February 21, 2019, 12:12:46 AM |
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Don't be so naive marlboroza, obviously no red flags can arise when people deposit and lose as there's literally nothing in place to trigger such things (it is up to the user to make sure they are in compliance with ToS). You saw just earlier in this thread a guy that tried to withdraw 1.7 BTC and the KYC was triggered, after he had lost.
I've been gambling online for over 10 years and this is how it works in the gambling industry. You as a player are liable when you deposit, the house is liable when you want to withdraw.
Based on laws the house is also liable when someone deposits, but the scam tactic is to let everyone in and when won draw the KYC card! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Don't be so naive marlboroza, obviously no red flags can arise when people deposit and lose as there's literally nothing in place to trigger such things (it is up to the user to make sure they are in compliance with ToS). You saw just earlier in this thread a guy that tried to withdraw 1.7 BTC and the KYC was triggered, after he had lost.
I've been gambling online for over 10 years and this is how it works in the gambling industry. You as a player are liable when you deposit, the house is liable when you want to withdraw.
Based on laws the house is also liable when someone deposits, but the scam tactic is to let everyone in and when won draw the KYC card! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Here is a couple scenarios game... 1) What if a minor goes in and pulls a slot and wins a million bucks? 2) What if a player self bans for life from a casino then wins a million bucks? That would be messed up if they did in either scenario. Because then they wouldnt be able to receive the winnings because they crossed the fairness of the rules the casino has put in place. Just like if you enter into a lotto pool at work and one week you didnt put in your $5 and they end up winning a cold million. You would be out of the winnings because you broke the rule of the pool and didnt put in your share for the week they won.
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February 21, 2019, 01:36:15 AM |
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Don't be so naive marlboroza, obviously no red flags can arise when people deposit and lose as there's literally nothing in place to trigger such things (it is up to the user to make sure they are in compliance with ToS). You saw just earlier in this thread a guy that tried to withdraw 1.7 BTC and the KYC was triggered, after he had lost.
I've been gambling online for over 10 years and this is how it works in the gambling industry. You as a player are liable when you deposit, the house is liable when you want to withdraw.
Based on laws the house is also liable when someone deposits, but the scam tactic is to let everyone in and when won draw the KYC card! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Here is a couple scenarios game... 1) What if a minor goes in and pulls a slot and wins a million bucks? 2) What if a player self bans for life from a casino then wins a million bucks? That is why casinos are obligated by laws to check the identity prior to accepting bets!
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February 21, 2019, 12:20:54 PM |
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Yes I know whats happening, they probably offer you like 60% to return, but you have to praise them again and clear their name.
Some people don't have dignity at all.
And some people are much more intelligent than you think.
Wrong again but keep at it ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Well, things like this will always happen if you dont handle every situation with necessary precaution in a way mature way. However, the cloud bet team are still respond to the claim which I believe that proud to their honesty and this problem happened through the internet which we both know that mistake will definitely happen in every business setting. The song of AGD815 First I was a shiller then I scammed my friend So my friend sent a killer Will this be my very end? ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) 4x4 and Game Will you leave this forum forever when everyone gets paid? Both you and game turd adios? Everyone will definitely get pay since the cloudbet representative is still responding to the accusations But there's possibility that Game-project might not let go or erase the scam message posted about the company because I went through his messages and I believe is not someone that let go easily. 4x4 and game are very immature. If they acted like adults people might actually listen to them sometimes and take them seriously. People like them only make the situation worse. Lol you were crying for 7 days in a row how Fraudbet steal your friends money, now your changing your story again.- You really are a piece of shit and deserve what is happening to u. The funny thing is you have no clue what’s going on behind the scenes because you are to busy trying to make worthless rhymes and slanderous comments about people. Have a great day 4x4 Of course they will never know and this is why take side when misconception happen between two parties is never a decision.
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Don't be so naive marlboroza, obviously no red flags can arise when people deposit and lose as there's literally nothing in place to trigger such things (it is up to the user to make sure they are in compliance with ToS). You saw just earlier in this thread a guy that tried to withdraw 1.7 BTC and the KYC was triggered, after he had lost.
I've been gambling online for over 10 years and this is how it works in the gambling industry. You as a player are liable when you deposit, the house is liable when you want to withdraw.
Based on laws the house is also liable when someone deposits, but the scam tactic is to let everyone in and when won draw the KYC card! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Here is a couple scenarios game... 1) What if a minor goes in and pulls a slot and wins a million bucks? 2) What if a player self bans for life from a casino then wins a million bucks? That is why casinos are obligated by laws to check the identity prior to accepting bets! Wrong. Fake news. Do you know how many people place bets at casinos without having there ID checked? If you win a certain amount on a slot in Vegas KYC happens after the win. Not before the win! You're totally right and it business hype used by most casino for the ease of their gamblers because they wont want the ID check be a barrier for their players and is why most casino and gambling site will wrote no registration is require on their website but once you win huge amount of money registration and ID verification will be required.
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I find it weired how someone deposit a large amount of money (btc) in an anonymous gambling website, without noticing or asking rules for KYC. Then suddenly got his winnings in one transction!! Possibly, a fabricated inside job, but how to investigate it? User Mikeywith started a new discussion about cloudbet case from an interressant view point. You can follow it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5112310.msg49835854#msg49835854Here is a couple scenarios game...
1) What if a minor goes in and pulls a slot and wins a million bucks?
2) What if a player self bans for life from a casino then wins a million bucks?
Possible scenarios that can happen in everyday life, when to use betting online. This industry lacks much more regulation than expected if to continue running in full anonymity. Now, what do we have in the gambling environment: "don't bet money that you afford to loose" , "you may loose your bets by chance, or loose your winnings by a simple ban clic" .
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I still don't know what the result was for the 330 withdrawal thing. I understand dude finally got paid but what caused the KYC deals and so forth and what caused cloudbet to deny his winnings from him. I see here there are a lot of talks about falsified information and lying until the end and so forth but can someone please point out to me where I can read a step by step of what happened so I can judge better.
No matter what happened I still hold a firm belief that cloudbet should have paid the person back right away with the withdrawal address provided from the account itself, without asking for anything. However, if there are more details about what happened I would love to read and maybe change my mind. I have checked the last two pages again but I can't bothered to go back further unless there are some more information there.
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I guess we always need to know the whole story now. Of course it was a US user that shouldn't be playing here throwing up the most dirt. Cloudbet is very liquid. My trust returns to this book.
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