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Author Topic: [Setup & Troubleshoot] Bitmain AntMiner S1 180GH/S miner  (Read 452140 times)
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November 26, 2013, 01:30:16 PM
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Hello sushi,

Could i connect ANTminer to my 580W psu with one PCI-E 6 PIN (for the first card) and two molex to PCI-E 6 PIN connector (for the second card)?
I just like that have now connected graphic card to this PSU (in a bit older computer) and everything is great.

This is that connector:


I would extend this PCI-E 6 pin and connect to ANTminer.

Thanks!
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November 26, 2013, 01:32:37 PM
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I butchered the pci-e connectors, put into one blade. Butchered the cpu connecters, put into the other.

The ATX kept shutting down after cpl of minutes. Then re-enforced with more wires from molex (using extenders), same thing. Happened in the past as well when i was trying to use many fpgas with this PSU... Its single rail 550W psu (it claims +12V to have 528W output)

I guess im going shopping for proper PSU... perhaps one of those dedicated 12V thingies.

I've been having this exact issue. Sushi was a massive help in troubleshooting with me and checking settings. When I tried the blades 1 by 1 they ran fine, but trying to power both at once caused the PSU to shut down. I've just walked back in the door from going out to buy a decent PSU (first one was a $35 POS that claimed to have plenty of power but obviously didn't deliver)

Now to butcher the extenders and hook this baby up....  Grin

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November 26, 2013, 01:36:59 PM
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Pulling the power from some of the Molex will get the miner power up but if it's not the native +12V line, I will NOT recommend it.  I tried it here as an experiment, some PSU will not power up the miner and the other did, but the Molex cable got really hot.

So, if  you can avoid using the SATA/IDE/Molex power line to convert it to PCI or PCI-E via Extenders.  It's a NO NO!!!

If you can afford it, and just 1 AntMiner, invest in 450W PSU that is rated 80PLUS and has enough dedicated +12 lines.  It will give you the peace of mind for a while.


This is that connector:


I would extend this PCI-E 6 pin and connect to ANTminer.


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November 26, 2013, 01:47:00 PM
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Thanks for info sushi! I will no test it this connection - i don't want to spoil new ANTminer Smiley

So i will buy the new one PSU.
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November 26, 2013, 02:15:16 PM
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Pulling the power from some of the Molex will get the miner power up but if it's not the native +12V line, I will NOT recommend it.  I tried it here as an experiment, some PSU will not power up the miner and the other did, but the Molex cable got really hot.

So, if  you can avoid using the SATA/IDE/Molex power line to convert it to PCI or PCI-E via Extenders.  It's a NO NO!!!

If you can afford it, and just 1 AntMiner, invest in 450W PSU that is rated 80PLUS and has enough dedicated +12 lines.  It will give you the peace of mind for a while.


This is that connector:


I would extend this PCI-E 6 pin and connect to ANTminer.


You should have at least 4 (6 is better) dedicated +12V lines (Yellow) from the PSU, and at least 4 dedicated GND lines (Black). A PCI-E has 3 of each, so is fine for 1 side of the antminer, but the next best option is the square 4-pin ATX plug that has 2x12V and 2xGND. My psu has 2 of these, and I plan to strip 1 for the secondary antminer PCB, and use a 6-pin PCI-e extender for the primary antminer PCB (presumably the ethernet controller may mean this side needs a little bit extra wattage.

do we have an exact wattage use? The 360w is being quoted as 'at the wall' so im not sure if that means 360w is being drawn over the 12V lines, or that 360w is being drawn over the household 120/240v line

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November 26, 2013, 02:32:01 PM
Last edit: November 26, 2013, 05:08:34 PM by sushi
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The wattage I provided was measured using the powered up AntMiner connected to the 450W PSU, then the PSU's power plug was connected to the KillAWatt thing.  Then that KillAWatt was connected to the wall, if that will clarify.

4-Pin Molex wise, some PSU send out +5V and not enough juice, but if your PSU send out +12V on the 4-Pin Molex or SATA/IDE line, then you can extend those and power up the AntMiner. (+12V from the 4-Pin Molex is not recommended as it usually has a low wattage maximum)


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November 26, 2013, 04:56:57 PM
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Was having issues with my power supply. Followed advise from http://reprap.org/wiki/PCPowerSupply#Base_Load and attached an ancient cdrom drive to molex.

Without the base load the ATX was powering off every few minutes (it was stable if running single blade). Now with cdrom attached to molex its been up for ~20 mins. (fingers crossed)

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November 26, 2013, 05:09:09 PM
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Great Info!  Grad that worked!

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November 26, 2013, 09:41:13 PM
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Antminers English guide.

putting here just because

https://github.com/AntMiner/AntGen1/blob/master/manual/Antminer%20Manual_EN.pdf

I think shushi's guide is more helpful

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November 26, 2013, 11:11:06 PM
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Yeah in case anyone didn't notice ...

If you are running it at 180GH/s that's 2.81GH/s per chip (it says 350 Mhz in luci)

To get that requires a lot more power.

In my case it's ~480W ... so I'm running 240W though each molex cable ... which is way too high for a molex cable!

My 2nd OCZ 1250 turns up this afternoon and I'll be redoing the wiring to see if I can get it to cool down enough to touch the cables Tongue

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November 27, 2013, 01:31:14 AM
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Yeah in case anyone didn't notice ...

If you are running it at 180GH/s that's 2.81GH/s per chip (it says 350 Mhz in luci)

To get that requires a lot more power.

In my case it's ~480W ... so I'm running 240W though each molex cable ... which is way too high for a molex cable!

My 2nd OCZ 1250 turns up this afternoon and I'll be redoing the wiring to see if I can get it to cool down enough to touch the cables Tongue

Thanks for the heads up!

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November 27, 2013, 03:19:23 AM
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You ant company has sales services? I received a machine three days you still did not work.
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November 27, 2013, 03:26:26 AM
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As long as your PCI-E are +12 and 4pin connector line, you are fine.  There is no need to go buy another PSU.  

Use 3 cables into one side and 2 cables to the other.  It will run!  (Trust me, I tested 5-cabel configuration and it mined at 180GH/S for hours)

Everything seems to work fine the way you describe. I put the 3 cables on the blade with the control board and the other 2 on the second. The miner runs fine and it hashes as advertised (180GH/s). The power cables are a bit hot to the touch, but not extremely. I'll monitor more closely for the first days, but I guess this is expected.

Thanks for your guide, it was very helpful. I was a bit surprised by the red led at first, but since everything is running fine I guess it is normal. Maybe it's worth mentioning in the guide...
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November 27, 2013, 03:46:47 AM
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Good point about the redish LED.  I didn't think about that.  I will take a picture and add it into the guide.

For your PSU wise, are you using the yellow +12V line from the 4pin molex (SATA/IDE) cable?  If so, don't do that, it will heat up quite a bit. (Most molex cable can support 60-80W but the miner needs at least 180W on one side)

If the main PCI ATX or PCI-E +12V lines are getting to the point you can't touch, you may want to check if your PSU is strong enough to support it, or if there is too much resistance on the line for whatever the reasons.  The lines from the AntMiner I'm running doesn't get hot at all and it's on the 450W PSU with +12V from PCI-E and PCI ATX lines. (1 Line I double up the cable for both Yellow and Black just to be sure/safe because I want to let it run without attending the unit everyday.)



Everything seems to work fine the way you describe. I put the 3 cables on the blade with the control board and the other 2 on the second. The miner runs fine and it hashes as advertised (180GH/s). The power cables are a bit hot to the touch, but not extremely. I'll monitor more closely for the first days, but I guess this is expected.

Thanks for your guide, it was very helpful. I was a bit surprised by the red led at first, but since everything is running fine I guess it is normal. Maybe it's worth mentioning in the guide...

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November 27, 2013, 04:50:26 AM
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For your PSU wise, are you using the yellow +12V line from the 4pin molex (SATA/IDE) cable?

I did not use the +12V wire from the SATA/IDE cable, just the 4-pin cpu power and 6-pin pci-e cables.
 
If the main PCI ATX or PCI-E +12V lines are getting to the point you can't touch, you may want to check if your PSU is strong enough to support it, or if there is too much resistance on the line for whatever the reasons. 

They're not that hot that I can't touch them, but they do feel hot to the touch.

The lines from the AntMiner I'm running doesn't get hot at all and it's on the 450W PSU with +12V from PCI-E and PCI ATX lines. (1 Line I double up the cable for both Yellow and Black just to be sure/safe because I want to let it run without attending the unit everyday.)

That makes 16 cables (8 yellow/8 black). I have 10 (6 on the first blade and 4 on the second), maybe that's the difference. The bottom of the PSU is getting hot as well, so maybe it's not powerful enough as you suggest. I'll see if it gets hotter with time, if it does I'll definitely get a new one.  It will run unattended most of the time so I'd like to be sure it's safe.
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November 27, 2013, 01:24:37 PM
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Do I need laptop to running mining on antminer, or I just need to use my laptop to configure pools  ?
Can I use raspberry pi ?
My router is 192.168.1.1
my laptop is 192.168.1.5
my raspberry pi is 192.168.1.7
my asic cube is 192.168.1.9
my asic blade is 192.168.1.10
Can anybody one more time explain to me how to do it step by step, I am confused Sad.
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November 27, 2013, 01:57:23 PM
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Do I need laptop to running mining on antminer, or I just need to use my laptop to configure pools  ?

AntMiner is a self contained miner, however, you need a laptop or a computer to configure via Ethernet Cable connection


Can I use raspberry pi ?
Hummm  Let me check... AntMiner is a self contained stand-alone miner

My router is 192.168.1.1
my laptop is 192.168.1.5
my raspberry pi is 192.168.1.7
my asic cube is 192.168.1.9
my asic blade is 192.168.1.10

Can anybody one more time explain to me how to do it step by step, I am confused Sad.
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Look at your AntMiner's fan.  There should be a white sticker with 192.168.2.XXXX

Connect your AntMiner to your Laptop via Ethernet Cable

Change your Laptop's Network Setting (IP, SUbnet, Gateway)

IP: 192.168.2.254
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 192.168.2.1


Then, open the web browser and go to 192.168.2.XXX

You'll see the control panel login screen.  Username: root   Password: root

Go to the System Tab, then go to the Miner Configuration.  Enter your mining pool info. (mining server address, worker name and worker password)  Then hit SAVE&Apply

Go to the Network Tab,

Go to the LAN Page, your miner should be configured to be "DHCP Client", if so, Move on to Next

If it's set to Static IP, then Change it to "DHCP Client" then hit Change Protocol, Then, hit Save&Apply button at the bottom

Then Go to WAN Page.  Set it as Static IP

IP: 192.168.1.11
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 192.168.1.1
DNS: use what you use for the current network or 8.8.8.8

Hit Save&Apply

change your Laptop's IP address to what it used to be. 

Disconnect the Ethernet Cable from the Laptop and connect it to the Internet Router

In 45 seconds to 1 minute, your AntMiner will start mining on it's own.  

P.S. The green LEDs the blade will start flashing, then the fan will start to spin, and the miner will start to get warmer.  



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November 27, 2013, 02:01:54 PM
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Do I need laptop to running mining on antminer, or I just need to use my laptop to configure pools  ?

AntMiner is a self contained miner, however, you need a laptop or a computer to configure via Ethernet Cable connection


Can I use raspberry pi ?
Hummm  Let me check... AntMiner is a self contained stand-alone miner

My router is 192.168.1.1
my laptop is 192.168.1.5
my raspberry pi is 192.168.1.7
my asic cube is 192.168.1.9
my asic blade is 192.168.1.10

Can anybody one more time explain to me how to do it step by step, I am confused Sad.
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Look at your AntMiner's fan.  There should be a white sticker with 192.168.2.XXXX

Connect your AntMiner to your Laptop via Ethernet Cable

Change your Laptop's Network Setting (IP, SUbnet, Gateway)

IP: 192.168.2.254
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 192.168.2.1


Then, open the web browser and go to 192.168.2.XXX

You'll see the control panel login screen.  Username: root   Password: root

Go to the System Tab, then go to the Miner Configuration.  Enter your mining pool info. (mining server address, worker name and worker password)  Then hit SAVE&Apply

Go to the Network Tab,

Go to the LAN Page, your miner should be configured to be "DHCP Client", if so, Move on to Next

If it's set to Static IP, then Change it to "DHCP Client" then hit Change Protocol, Then, hit Save&Apply button at the bottom

Then Go to WAN Page.  Set it as Static IP

IP: 192.168.1.11
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 192.168.1.1
DNS: use what you use for the current network or 8.8.8.8

Hit Save&Apply

change your Laptop's IP address to what it used to be. 

Disconnect the Ethernet Cable from the Laptop and connect it to the Internet Router

In 45 seconds to 1 minute, your AntMiner will start mining on it's own.  

P.S. The green LEDs the blade will start flashing, then the fan will start to spin, and the miner will start to get warmer.  



thank you very much Smiley

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November 27, 2013, 02:06:30 PM
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Let me know if you get stuck in the process, then I will walk you thru or run the trouble shooting for you!  If you see me online, just PM me

 

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November 27, 2013, 03:04:52 PM
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Hey Novymio,

Is your AntMiner mining yet? 

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