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March 09, 2014, 01:59:37 AM
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Level-3 multi-bid-ask match test cases,contain 3 test case

3-1
Purpose:    multi-bidorder VS  multi-ask-order, Level 3
Prereq:   secretphrase,n ask orders(n=2,3,10,100)
Test Data:    bid orders (n=2,3,10,100) ,
 total quantity<,=,> askorder.quantity
price = or > askorder.price
Steps:   1.   at same time place multi bid orders,using multi-secretphrase
2.   verify place bid orders are correct or not
3.   verify balances are ok
4.   verify assets are ok
5.   cancel ask orders,bid orders,recheck balance,asset are ok.

3-2
Purpose:    1k+ bidorders match a ask order, Level 3
Prereq:   secretphrase,a ask order
Test Data:    bid orders (n=1000-10.000) ,
 quantity<,=,> askorder.quantity
price = or > askorder.price
Steps:   1.   at same time place multi bid orders,using multi-secretphrase
2.   verify balances are ok
3.   verify assets are ok
4.   cancel ask order,bid orders,recheck balance,asset are ok.

3-3
Purpose:    1k+ askorders match a bid order, Level 3
Prereq:   secretphrase,a bid order
Test Data:    ask orders (n=1000-10.000) ,
 quantity<,=,> askorder.quantity
price = or > askorder.price
Steps:   1.   at same time place multi ask orders,using multi-secretphrase
2.   verify balances are ok
3.   verify assets are ok
4.   cancel ask order,bid orders,recheck balance,asset are ok.




I don't understand how these test cases work or what the procedure is. Are there instructions available somewhere? I've just gone in and tried to break it and reported any feedback here.

here is 2 simple test cases. you may test using NXT api in NRS,or use other applications(i know wesleyh released one in web,marcus03 released one in Mac and windows)
and of course, you have to ask someone send you testnxt, issue a asset need 1000nxt

Purpose:   Issue Asset- Level 1
Prereq:   secretphrase,balance
Test Data:   balance = {0, <1000, 1000,>1000}
name len(0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,100)
quantity=(-1,0,0.1,1,100,1000,100000000000000000000000)
Steps:   1.   enter secrephrase
2.   enter name
3.   enter quantity
4.   click issue button
5.   verify transaction is correct


Purpose:   place ask order- Level 1
Prereq:   secretphrase,asset id,asset quantity
Test Data:   assetid={other acccount issued asset,i issued asset}
balance = {0, 1, >1}
price(-1,0,1.0,>1)
quantity=(-1,0,0.1, =1, asset.quantity,> asset quantity)
Steps:   1.   enter secrephrase
2.   enter assetid/select a asset
3.   enter quantity
4.   enter price
5.   click place-ask-order
6.   verify transaction is correct or not
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March 09, 2014, 02:04:24 AM
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My 'caught up with 30 pages of this thread' thoughts for today:

Found an interesting link. Nxt community became a victim of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringelmann_effect, IMHO.

Community became a victim of bitching each other up like a bunch of school kids as far as I can see.
I've just plowed thru 30+ pages of whining and bitchery (with far too much eMule in it) and I am not bloody happy.

If this is how we as a community react to delays and setbacks, we might as well go home now.
NXT is a big project. Every big project is going to hit problems, miss deadlines and generally be a pain in the arse for the people who are putting in the work on it.
We need to rise to the challenge and get working on making NXT the best it can be, not getting all butt hurt because we aren't millionaires yet (well, most of us).
Play nice, kids, we are all on roughly the same side.

Committees: good thing.
Thx for the votes, btw, happy to serve. (i'm on Infrastructure....)


Some thoughts on committee basics which don't seem to have covered and perhaps can be aligned across all... I don't remember any of this being stated but below is kind of my expectations - what do you think?

Its not inf stuff but general - how do we demonstrate that we are doing this well and honestly.

Not sure if its been stated 'tenure' - 1 year - all committees? - re-election all at same time with a non-candidate election officer every 12 months.

Election officer for committee should be known 3 months before election is due to take place and start candidacy process.

If a committee member stands down or is inactive (to be agreed) - invite 6th candidate from previous vote to join.

If committee has less than 6 months to election then it can run with 4 members, committee is not quorate with less than 4 members.

No funds to be paid directly to committee members for committee work.

For projects - members can apply/be part of an application but cannot vote on own project or a project they are part of, whether as investor or contributor.

Removal of a committee member requires N-1 votes - i.e. unanimous by all remaining members with a public statement of why.

+1

I was going to suggest that we invite one/both of the Cointropolis guys to act as extra members on the Marketing committee.....but that seems to have ended in tears. Pity, I hated SoL, but they did seem to have some really good input otherwise, loved the Star Trek convention currency idea. Is that still happening ?

Need to wrap this up and get in bed......I'm going to put this semi-random list of priorities here, if we can get this lot done in the next few weeks,we'll have done well:

 Get the White Paper and Audit done.

 Integrate Wesleys client to NRS, audit it, release to a grateful world in a one click package with some form of password security enforcement.

 Figure out our current TPS, make a plan to hit a realistic TPS target that gives close to instant transactions, even if it's not the   promised 1000TPS.

 Get AE up and running, with at least a handful of gateways for other cryptos/Fiat.

 Nodecoin!

 Make a simple payment module for the Web. Get merchants on board, sell/buy stuff with NXT as a first gen currency.

 Think more about marketing. The crypto market is maturing, we need branding to succeed and achieve mass adoption. (I hate to say it....but I think it's true)

 Give EvilDave lots of NXT for being such a nice guy, and to pay for the A'dam conference.

Anything I missed, lets add it to the list.....


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March 09, 2014, 02:21:55 AM
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I was going to suggest that we invite one/both of the Cointropolis guys to act as extra members on the Marketing committee.....but that seems to have ended in tears.


+1

NXT really needs the Cointropolis guys .... please stick around!!
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Last edit: March 09, 2014, 03:58:07 AM by rickyjames
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I've got a lot of catching up to do in this thread, also.  For now, I will say a few things off the top of my head.  

First, we have got to pay more attention to NXT as a 1st generation coin, and call it a coin, without "quotation marks" or apologies.  We need vendors to accept it and people to want it.  NXT cannot be mined and the ability to forge it requires one to buy it on an exchange first.  We have to give people a reason to buy NXT.  That reason cannot be as a stake to forge more NXT because without exception newcomers are dramatically disappointed when they figure out the true numbers that underlie NXT forging. Doge has a fun factor.  NXT has zero fun factor.  It is a frustrating experience all the way thru - getting a client set up and running, dealing with a super long password or losing all your NXT if you don't, realizing you're not going to make anything of true value by forging with small stake quantities, asking yourself what can you do with this coin you just bought....  Repeat:  NXT is frustrating, Doge is fun.  WE MUST LEARN FROM DOGE AND BE FUN.

Second, we have got to identify just what is 2nd generation about this coin that we really truly are going to support.  Mixing/Zerocash anonymity?  Peer to peer AE?  Multisig gateways to other coins?  Transparent forging TF to get high transaction speed?  Multiple blockchains?  Pruning the main blockchain?  BCNext's latest out-of-left-field proposal for instant transactions based on some kind of multiple account?  Jesus, even the guy with the secret plan is proposing new ideas before completely revealing his old ideas.  This gives me a headache and a stomach ache at the same time.  

TF and 1000TPS is what sold me on this coin and is the ONLY feature we have that is above and beyond all Bitcoin clones and even Etherium on the horizon.  I get that 1000TPS would take dev work, but I thought TF was a done deal.  Now it's not?

Third, we have got to pull together as a team and FOCUS.  FOCUS.  FOCUS.  Maybe the funding committees are the start of this.  I hope so.   I would go so far to say that there needs to be yet another committee election, for a leadership committee, one with no money or unspent NXT behind it at all, just the raw power to say "NXT IS GOING TO DO THIS."  and whose members then can stand up on a stage, virtual or real, in front of people and tell them that NXT is on a course to SOMEWHERE.

Maybe I'm just in dictator withdrawal from pushing the election over the goal line.   Maybe sleep will help.  G'nite.

 

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March 09, 2014, 03:28:34 AM
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I didn't donate to "Songs of Love" because it's ridiculous.  There are millions of children who are sick.  Singing to them will do nothing.  How about trying to cure their illness.

wow, sophisticated thought process  Roll Eyes

This is the main reason I didn't donate.

Also, one of the singers was a stripper.  If I had a sick child, I would not want a "former" stripper singing to them.  I'm not going to support that garbage.  They couldn't find a better role model?  Seriously?

That's very judgy of you. Strippers are not the devil, they just dance for money naked. Why are you afraid of the naked female form? And she was a former stripper. Are you saying anyone who ever did anything outside of the box in their life should not be allowed to donate their time to a charity?

Now, I'm judging you.


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March 09, 2014, 03:34:52 AM
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I've got a lot of catching up to do in this thread, also.  For now, I will say a few things off the top of my head. 

First, we have got to pay more attention to NXT as a 1st generation coin, and call it a coin, without parentheses or apologies.  We need vendors to accept it and people to want it.  NXT cannot be mined and the ability to forge it requires one to buy it on an exchange first.  We have to give people a reason to buy NXT.  That reason cannot be as a stake to forge more NXT because without exception newcomers are dramatically disappointed when they figure out the true numbers that underlie NXT forging. Doge has a fun factor.  NXT has zero fun factor.  It is a frustrating experience all the way thru - getting a client set up and running, dealing with a super long password or losing all your NXT if you don't, realizing you're not going to make anything of true value by forging with small stake quantities, asking yourself what can you do with this coin you just bought....  Repeat:  NXT is frustrating, Doge is fun.  WE MUST LEARN FROM DOGE AND BE FUN.

Second, we have got to identify just what is 2nd generation about this coin that we really truly are going to support.  Mixing/Zerocash anonymity?  Peer to peer AE?  Multisig gateways to other coins?  Transparent forging TF to get high transaction speed?  Multiple blockchains?  Pruning the main blockchain?  BCNext's latest out-of-left-field proposal for instant transactions based on some kind of multiple account?  Jesus, even the guy with the secret plan is proposing new ideas before completely revealing his old ideas.  This gives me a headache and a stomach ache at the same time. 

TF and 1000TPS is what sold me on this coin and is the ONLY feature we have that is above and beyond all Bitcoin clones and even Etherium on the horizon.  I get that 1000TPS would take dev work, but I thought TF was a done deal.  Now it's not?

Third, we have got to pull together as a team and FOCUS.  FOCUS.  FOCUS.  Maybe the funding committees are the start of this.  I hope so.   I would go so far to say that there needs to be yet another committee election, for a leadership committee, one with no money or unspent NXT behind it at all, just the raw power to say "NXT IS GOING TO DO THIS."  and whose members then can stand up on a stage, virtual or real, in front of people and tell them that NXT is on a course to SOMEWHERE.

Maybe I'm just in dictator withdrawal from pushing the election over the goal line.   Maybe sleep will help.  G'nite.

 



I believe in dictatorship. Democracy will fail (and fall) in the coming decades. Collective ownership is bullshit, because noone feels responsible for anything. A lot of great ideas are getting thrown in the round every day in this thread, but almost all remain without action. It´s like fartig in a room with full off people and then closing the door and leaving: it´s an interesting experience, but pointless and after a while even disturbing.

I still believe that this project needs a project manager. Look at all the other successfull cryptos: they all have carismatic leaders. A big project like this can´t only rely on a few self-sacrificing people.
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March 09, 2014, 03:40:20 AM
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I've got a lot of catching up to do in this thread, also.  For now, I will say a few things off the top of my head. 

First, we have got to pay more attention to NXT as a 1st generation coin, and call it a coin, without parentheses or apologies.  We need vendors to accept it and people to want it.  NXT cannot be mined and the ability to forge it requires one to buy it on an exchange first.  We have to give people a reason to buy NXT.  That reason cannot be as a stake to forge more NXT because without exception newcomers are dramatically disappointed when they figure out the true numbers that underlie NXT forging. Doge has a fun factor.  NXT has zero fun factor.  It is a frustrating experience all the way thru - getting a client set up and running, dealing with a super long password or losing all your NXT if you don't, realizing you're not going to make anything of true value by forging with small stake quantities, asking yourself what can you do with this coin you just bought....  Repeat:  NXT is frustrating, Doge is fun.  WE MUST LEARN FROM DOGE AND BE FUN.

Second, we have got to identify just what is 2nd generation about this coin that we really truly are going to support.  Mixing/Zerocash anonymity?  Peer to peer AE?  Multisig gateways to other coins?  Transparent forging TF to get high transaction speed?  Multiple blockchains?  Pruning the main blockchain?  BCNext's latest out-of-left-field proposal for instant transactions based on some kind of multiple account?  Jesus, even the guy with the secret plan is proposing new ideas before completely revealing his old ideas.  This gives me a headache and a stomach ache at the same time. 

TF and 1000TPS is what sold me on this coin and is the ONLY feature we have that is above and beyond all Bitcoin clones and even Etherium on the horizon.  I get that 1000TPS would take dev work, but I thought TF was a done deal.  Now it's not?

Third, we have got to pull together as a team and FOCUS.  FOCUS.  FOCUS.  Maybe the funding committees are the start of this.  I hope so.   I would go so far to say that there needs to be yet another committee election, for a leadership committee, one with no money or unspent NXT behind it at all, just the raw power to say "NXT IS GOING TO DO THIS."  and whose members then can stand up on a stage, virtual or real, in front of people and tell them that NXT is on a course to SOMEWHERE.

Maybe I'm just in dictator withdrawal from pushing the election over the goal line.   Maybe sleep will help.  G'nite.

I think NXT's focus should be on completing TF to increase the transaction speed, P2P AE and multiple blockchains.


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March 09, 2014, 03:55:51 AM
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I didn't donate to "Songs of Love" because it's ridiculous.  There are millions of children who are sick.  Singing to them will do nothing.  How about trying to cure their illness.

wow, sophisticated thought process  Roll Eyes

This is the main reason I didn't donate.

Also, one of the singers was a stripper.  If I had a sick child, I would not want a "former" stripper singing to them.  I'm not going to support that garbage.  They couldn't find a better role model?  Seriously?

That's very judgy of you. Strippers are not the devil, they just dance for money naked. Why are you afraid of the naked female form? And she was a former stripper. Are you saying anyone who ever did anything outside of the box in their life should not be allowed to donate their time to a charity?

Now, I'm judging you.

I'm crushed. Don't know how I'll ever recover.

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March 09, 2014, 04:38:04 AM
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Hang in tough NXTers!

Weekend is here. Or half over, depending on your view.
Committee elections are over, efforts are in place to centralize the work for just the amount of time required to get the jobs done.

Even the "Freegan Anarchist Bookfair and Slam Poetry Fest®" needs a publicist, and accountant. We can put our heads and hearts (and unclaimed coins) to work for the common good.

Thanks for all the support from RickyJames, and everyone who put in their time, effort, and opinions.

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Hang in tough NXTers!

Weekend is here. Or half over, depending on your view.
Committee elections are over, efforts are in place to centralize the work for just the amount of time required to get the jobs done.

Even the "Freegan Anarchist Bookfair and Slam Poetry Fest®" needs a publicist, and accountant. We can put our heads and hearts (and unclaimed coins) to work for the common good.

Thanks for all the support from RickyJames, and everyone who put in their time, effort, and opinions.

To the Moooon

You're the guy who tried to discredit JustaBit and Nifty. Whatever you say is worthless if that's the case.

And no: the unclaimed committee has no more say than others in what direction NXT is heading, the only thing the committee is going to do is evaluate different proposals and decide which you think deserve funding the most in a transparent way, so that if the community see you guys fucking up, you will get kicked out. That's why we have a treasurer
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March 09, 2014, 04:57:30 AM
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I've been a proactive supporter of NXT due to its unique features offered to the community; however, I would like to see NXT become something websites adopt.

What are some ways NXT can help websites utilize its features?  and what kind of results can the website (business) expect out of those features?
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March 09, 2014, 05:36:34 AM
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I've been a proactive supporter of NXT due to its unique features offered to the community; however, I would like to see NXT become something websites adopt.

What are some ways NXT can help websites utilize its features?  and what kind of results can the website (business) expect out of those features?

I'm not quite sure what you mean.

If NXT can achieve a high tx rate, it would be beneficial for your business to integrate with the NXT network.

I think NXT's best chance of achieving fast transactions is to offload them onto a parallel blockchain which is secured selectively by large stakeholders using high end hardware.


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March 09, 2014, 06:13:02 AM
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I found a very similar template at http://nxtra.org/nxt-client/

http://jumpstartthemes.com/themes/admin-themes/canvas-admin/

Just for curious. xD

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I think NXT's best chance of achieving fast transactions is to offload them onto a parallel blockchain which is secured selectively by large stakeholders using high end hardware.

I would like to offer up a suggestion as to how the Nxt project could move forward in a way that can please both those wanting high performance and those wanting forging on low-grade hardware whilst at the same time solving the initial distribution *problem*.

The suggestion is NXG (Nxt Green or Nxt Gen if you prefer) which would be a separate currency to NXT but still based on NxtCore. It would use a different blockchain to NXT and also a different port for its comms. When AT is implemented a use case would be added for atomic cross-chain transfers between NXT and NXG.

In order to obtain NXG an "exit account" would be created (in much the same way that Mastercoin did) and all funds sent to that account would be used to pay for the development of NXG. The distribution of NXG would be up to its supporters to work out but presumably it would be such that those who have been so far unhappy with the distribution of NXT will be happier.

I would suggest the fees for NXG would be kept much higher than those for NXT making it appealing to those with low-grade hardware to forge (assuming NXG is going to still push the forging angle).

If the community decided to go down this path then I think TF *as originally planned* (i.e. with the "penalty") should proceed for the NXT blockchain and the major focus for the NXT blockchain would be to lower fees and achieve extremely high TPM figures that will appeal to "big business".


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I think NXT's focus should be on completing TF to increase the transaction speed, P2P AE and multiple blockchains.

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March 09, 2014, 06:40:28 AM
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I think NXT's best chance of achieving fast transactions is to offload them onto a parallel blockchain which is secured selectively by large stakeholders using high end hardware.

I would like to offer up a suggestion as to how the Nxt project could move forward in a way that can please both those wanting high performance and those wanting forging on low-grade hardware whilst at the same time solving the initial distribution *problem*.

The suggestion is NXG (Nxt Green or Nxt Gen if you prefer) which would be a separate currency to NXT but still based on NxtCore. It would use a different blockchain to NXT and also a different port for its comms. When AT is implemented a use case would be added for atomic cross-chain transfers between NXT and NXG.

In order to obtain NXG an "exit account" would be created (in much the same way that Mastercoin did) and all funds sent to that account would be used to pay for the development of NXG. The distribution of NXG would be up to its supporters to work out but presumably it would be such that those who have been so far unhappy with the distribution of NXT will be happier.

I would suggest the fees for NXG would be kept much higher than those for NXT making it appealing to those with low-grade hardware to forge (assuming NXG is going to still push the forging angle).

If the community decided to go down this path then I think TF *as originally planned* (i.e. with the "penalty") should proceed for the NXT blockchain and the major focus for the NXT blockchain would be to lower fees and achieve extremely high TPM figures that will appeal to "big business".



This is a really good idea.  The AE should remain on the NXT blockchain to allow fast IOU payments.


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March 09, 2014, 06:52:38 AM
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You're the guy who tried to discredit JustaBit and Nifty. Whatever you say is worthless if that's the case.


I voted for BrooklynBTC based on the PM that you are so upset about, Uniqueorn. I will tell you why...

Just by sending it, it showed he was thorough and creative enough to check the list of people that had not voted and then send a direct mail to each of them asking for the vote.

This is the sort of thing that gets results in the world of marketing, and we need people like that on our marketing committee.

I also disagree that he was trash talking the other candidates unfairly. He pointed out that they both work for the same charity and suggested that they may form a bloc that steers money towards their favorite philanthropic pursuits.

Maybe they would have and maybe they wouldn't have. BrooklynBTC raised the question, and his PMs got him the votes he needed.

I hope he brings the same sort of zeal to his Nxt marketing efforts.
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We can make NXT fun by integrating our NXT game or other games into the client of Wesleyh.

Or integrating something like Spotify in it where you can buy music with NXT. This way you make it very easy and fun for the consumer.

There are already wallets that have games on them like Flappycoin.

We can have poker or something.

Possible?

NXT + Poker + Music + NXTshop. I would use the client all day long.

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I think NXT's best chance of achieving fast transactions is to offload them onto a parallel blockchain which is secured selectively by large stakeholders using high end hardware.

I would like to offer up a suggestion as to how the Nxt project could move forward in a way that can please both those wanting high performance and those wanting forging on low-grade hardware whilst at the same time solving the initial distribution *problem*.

The suggestion is NXG (Nxt Green or Nxt Gen if you prefer) which would be a separate currency to NXT but still based on NxtCore. It would use a different blockchain to NXT and also a different port for its comms. When AT is implemented a use case would be added for atomic cross-chain transfers between NXT and NXG.

In order to obtain NXG an "exit account" would be created (in much the same way that Mastercoin did) and all funds sent to that account would be used to pay for the development of NXG. The distribution of NXG would be up to its supporters to work out but presumably it would be such that those who have been so far unhappy with the distribution of NXT will be happier.

I would suggest the fees for NXG would be kept much higher than those for NXT making it appealing to those with low-grade hardware to forge (assuming NXG is going to still push the forging angle).

If the community decided to go down this path then I think TF *as originally planned* (i.e. with the "penalty") should proceed for the NXT blockchain and the major focus for the NXT blockchain would be to lower fees and achieve extremely high TPM figures that will appeal to "big business".


So,NXG can be called nxgcoin?

 
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I think NXT's best chance of achieving fast transactions is to offload them onto a parallel blockchain which is secured selectively by large stakeholders using high end hardware.

I would like to offer up a suggestion as to how the Nxt project could move forward in a way that can please both those wanting high performance and those wanting forging on low-grade hardware whilst at the same time solving the initial distribution *problem*.

The suggestion is NXG (Nxt Green or Nxt Gen if you prefer) which would be a separate currency to NXT but still based on NxtCore. It would use a different blockchain to NXT and also a different port for its comms. When AT is implemented a use case would be added for atomic cross-chain transfers between NXT and NXG.

In order to obtain NXG an "exit account" would be created (in much the same way that Mastercoin did) and all funds sent to that account would be used to pay for the development of NXG. The distribution of NXG would be up to its supporters to work out but presumably it would be such that those who have been so far unhappy with the distribution of NXT will be happier.

I would suggest the fees for NXG would be kept much higher than those for NXT making it appealing to those with low-grade hardware to forge (assuming NXG is going to still push the forging angle).

If the community decided to go down this path then I think TF *as originally planned* (i.e. with the "penalty") should proceed for the NXT blockchain and the major focus for the NXT blockchain would be to lower fees and achieve extremely high TPM figures that will appeal to "big business".


So,NXG can be called nxgcoin?

NXT-G or NxtG - currency code NXG

edit: It is a superb idea on many levels, well done CIYAM!
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