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Seth Otterstad
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July 05, 2013, 06:09:29 PM |
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Sorry if this is mentioned elsewhere, but I couldn't find it on the site: Are there any fees for converting USD to EUR during withdrawal or deposit?
There are no fees, the funds get converted automatically by our bank's daily exchange rate spreads which you can examine here: http://www.unicreditbank.si/tecajna_lista/?t=1&id_menu=&language=ENGIt looks like the conversion fee is about .5% each way for major currency pairs. I think you guys should promote the heck out of this, because no one even realizes that mtgox lists their order at 2.5% less in markets other than the currency that their account is in, which completely rapes everyone with a non-USD account. It is usually much better to convert funds to USD.
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kakobrekla
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July 05, 2013, 11:05:05 PM |
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Bitstamp trading engine at its finest. Disgusting.
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bernard75
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July 05, 2013, 11:09:46 PM |
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Wait, wasnt thw minium fee 15$?
I would cancel my order and payout somewhere fairer-
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maco
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July 06, 2013, 12:34:14 AM |
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In terms of what type of transaction? Did you commit a paypal transaction? Wait, wasnt thw minium fee 15$?
I would cancel my order and payout somewhere fairer-
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klabaki
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July 06, 2013, 12:43:04 AM Last edit: July 06, 2013, 01:08:32 AM by klabaki |
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Bitstamp trading engine at its finest. Disgusting. So, you paid a fee of 0.32 USD, although you should have paid only 0.31 USD. How do other exchanges solve this problem? I think it would be a possible solution to increase the number of decimal places on the USD side of the transactions. The logic of fixed-point arithmetics tells that if you have 8 decimal places for the BTC amount, and 2 decimal places for the price, then you need to have 8 + 2 = 10 decimal places for the USD amount in order to get a lossless calculation. But how can you explain the average user that you can trade 0.0000000001 USD just fine, while you cannot cash it out?
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bernard75
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July 06, 2013, 12:47:27 AM |
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Just a reminder for everybody: "International withdrawals will be charged with 0.09% fee, minimum fee is $15.00." If they didnt slap u with that 15$ that has been extremely fair by them.
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kakobrekla
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July 06, 2013, 01:13:10 AM |
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Bitstamp trading engine at its finest. Disgusting. So, you paid a fee of 0.32 USD, although you should have paid only 0.31 USD. In other words, they took 200 satoshi and charged 0.01 USD for taking it. Nowhere does it say it was me though.
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bernard75
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July 06, 2013, 01:17:14 AM |
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Oh fuck, i thought you were complaining about a withdrawal. Clearly i was off the whole time. :/
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dexX7
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July 06, 2013, 03:03:09 PM |
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Noticed something similar some days ago where I had a total USD amount of -$0.06. I have USD on my account, but 100 % in open orders. It was $0.00 yesterday as intended and shouldn't be negative. Edit: ahh ... never mind. My fee level changed and so did the final price of my open orders.
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Bagpipe
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July 07, 2013, 04:06:24 PM |
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what's the point to use google authenticator if using the trading API anyone that steals my username and password can empty my account?
If I remember that correctly, I had to enable API access in my account settings before I could start using the API. So it's disabled by default, i.e. only API traders will have it enabled, and those should know what they are doing. If I remember correctly, hosting a trade bot on a rented server introduces this unnecessary vulnerability.
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Bagpipe
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July 07, 2013, 04:23:45 PM |
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5th transaction with BITSTAMP and still happy. I love the security feature which requires (EMAIL CONFIRMATION) during transaction. This is a great security feature/mechanism just in case...
Well, apart of informing the government of your country, your ISP, several independent ISP vendors, the government of the USA, China and your national government and several independent hackers of your financial affairs, it is a nice feature to have. Especially when it allowed the hackers to steal coins from bitcoin.cz accounts and others. Oh, there is two-step authentication via third party named Google-spy-know-all, if you are comfortable with it. Ownership of Google-controlled Android phone is mandatory. Your e-mail, phone calls will be recorded and the data shared with the US government as a precaution, should you mean any trouble to them.
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Bigdaddyaz
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July 07, 2013, 09:01:57 PM |
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5th transaction with BITSTAMP and still happy. I love the security feature which requires (EMAIL CONFIRMATION) during transaction. This is a great security feature/mechanism just in case...
Well, apart of informing the government of your country, your ISP, several independent ISP vendors, the government of the USA, China and your national government and several independent hackers of your financial affairs, it is a nice feature to have. Especially when it allowed the hackers to steal coins from bitcoin.cz accounts and others. Oh, there is two-step authentication via third party named Google-spy-know-all, if you are comfortable with it. Ownership of Google-controlled Android phone is mandatory. Your e-mail, phone calls will be recorded and the data shared with the US government as a precaution, should you mean any trouble to them. Minor point, I know, but I don't think an Android phone is mandatory. Google Auth has iOS app for iPad & iPhone for example.
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juhakall
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July 07, 2013, 09:08:07 PM Last edit: July 07, 2013, 09:26:22 PM by juhakall |
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5th transaction with BITSTAMP and still happy. I love the security feature which requires (EMAIL CONFIRMATION) during transaction. This is a great security feature/mechanism just in case...
Well, apart of informing the government of your country, your ISP, several independent ISP vendors, the government of the USA, China and your national government and several independent hackers of your financial affairs, it is a nice feature to have. Especially when it allowed the hackers to steal coins from bitcoin.cz accounts and others. Oh, there is two-step authentication via third party named Google-spy-know-all, if you are comfortable with it. Ownership of Google-controlled Android phone is mandatory. Your e-mail, phone calls will be recorded and the data shared with the US government as a precaution, should you mean any trouble to them. Minor point, I know, but I don't think an Android phone is mandatory. Google Auth has iOS app for iPad & iPhone for example. Also, contrary to what many people seem to believe, Google Authenticator requires no communication with Google. The device that carries your codes could even be offline, if you can keep it's clock synchronized accurately enough. If you don't trust Google Authenticator (which by design has no reason to communicate with Google), the algorithm it uses is completely open and you can implement it yourself. But I think someone would have already noticed if the application was secretly doing network communications, when it has no reason to do so. It's true that some sites offering 2FA use the QR code drawing service of Google, and that really doesn't help in making people understand how the system works. Since in that case the code IS coming from Google, it's only natural that people assume Google is somehow unavoidably involved in the 2FA process, no matter how it's implemented. Obviously the proper way is that sites draw the QR codes themselves, instead of using an external service and leaking codes in the process.
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w8ks6
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July 08, 2013, 05:18:18 PM |
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@Nejc Kodric Please announce well in advance when you will be forced to comply with the US regulations, and require all kinds of verification even to withdraw BTC, the way gox was. I want to be able to leave Bitstamp before that hassle starts. Thanks.
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bernard75
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July 08, 2013, 06:03:05 PM |
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Why should they have to comply with US regulations? They are in the EU, their bank is in the EU and the EU has no problems with BTC.
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maco
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July 08, 2013, 09:38:15 PM |
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Noticed something similar some days ago where I had a total USD amount of -$0.06. I have USD on my account, but 100 % in open orders. It was $0.00 yesterday as intended and shouldn't be negative. Edit: ahh ... never mind. My fee level changed and so did the final price of my open orders. haha I was wondering... like hm? all good now I suppose.
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lucif
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July 15, 2013, 04:17:13 PM |
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Security improvement proposal: destroy user session on ip change. Current implementation allows to stay logged in even on ip change.
This may allow to steal user cookie and use it to login to bitstamp.
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bernard75
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July 15, 2013, 04:22:47 PM |
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the EU has no problems with BTC.
I wouldn't go that far. Germany the frontrunner in European legislation made profits from Bitcoins tax free for one. And anyway you look at it, Europe is much more liberal than the NSA...ehhmm...USA.
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