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May 26, 2011, 12:05:07 AM
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Listener for "1": 25/05/2011 22:52:16, warning: job finished, miner is idle

I see this somewhat frequently myself with deepbit.net, perhaps a couple of times per day, but when it happens, there may be several of them over the course of 15 minutes or so [not sure since my logs are gone since it last occurred]. 

I will start this GUIMiner 2011-050-21 up in a bit and let it run through the night and see if I can catch any.  I suspect congestion at the pool though.  When I see the problem, I am having no issues with VPN [which I use for about 10 hours per day when I work from home] or any other service where it might be obvious (I have a known great connection on a low usage node with Comcast in all seasons ... not to say they don't occasionally have network trouble, but they haven't had any recently and are good year round ... seasonal environmental changes can very much affect errors, levels, SNR, etc).

Advice for anybody asking such questions.
  • Check your home network equipment logs for issues/errors.  Especially if using wireless and even more so if not using 802.11n.
  • Make sure your down and up link to the Internet are never saturated [pushed to max] unless you have QoS configured (next item)
  • Prioritize port 8332 outgoing if your router supports QoS and also for WISH if supported and mining over wireless.
  • Check all equipment.  Make sure cables are good CAT6 (or 5e if you must) with secure clips, Ethernet cards are good and setup correctly (i.e. 1Gb Duplex with a good chipset like the Intel PRO/100 GT ... which is old, but good).  Most on-board motherboard Ethernet ports are trash, but they still work; just be sure you configure your network to work with them (i.e. no jumbo frames if not supported)
  • If your network devices and router support jumbo frames and you have the option turned on, make sure all mining hardware and equipment between it and your modem support it and have the option on and for the same size frame.
  • Verify firmware is all up to date with the best available [not necessarily latest] for your router and DSL/Cable modem.
  • Verify your cable or DSL modem statistics for proper power levels, SNR, correctable error rates (these are errors that shouldn't happen often at all), etc.
  • Traceroute and ping to the pool server.  Try to obtain reverse traceroute if possible.

A long list and a lot of which some people won't understand all perhaps, but all things that can make a huge difference; especially when combined together.  Having one brand router, another switch, old cables, some auto-sensing this or that with what turns out to be somewhat incompatible chipsets, wireless and saturated internet connections on the down or uplink can all contribute to networking problems that can be difficult to diagnose for a home user.

This is why I recommended the D-Link DIR-655 (2.4GHz) and the D-Link DIR-855 (2.4/5.0GHz) routers [both with a five port switch].  There are other good routers of course, but I know these devices well and have used them for years [my backup DIR-655 is hardware version A2 which is quite old and hot, but still great and replaced by my DIR-855 ... I really do NOT like Linksys hardware since they remove all the higher end options from their higher end devices trying to get you to buy more expensive Cisco products ... Netgear is OK, but not my preference ... my opinions based on a lot of home hardware experience].


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May 26, 2011, 08:16:49 AM
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Veldy, which  hardware you use miners?  Which kernel for phoenix? which params?
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May 26, 2011, 01:52:26 PM
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Hey Tyco.

not to worry they all coming through now Cheesy Sorry !!
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May 26, 2011, 03:10:57 PM
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Tycho, I've got a program that checks for changes on a webpage and texts my phone if a criterion is met. Basically, it'll load my deepbit.net API token every 5 minutes and look for a nonactive miner.

Is this okay? I assume that this is one reason why you set up the JSON API.

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May 26, 2011, 06:05:00 PM
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Tycho, I've got a program that checks for changes on a webpage and texts my phone if a criterion is met. Basically, it'll load my deepbit.net API token every 5 minutes and look for a nonactive miner.
Is this okay? I assume that this is one reason why you set up the JSON API.
Yes, that's what JSON API was created for.

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May 27, 2011, 12:06:51 AM
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Why there is no reward in generated block (proportional mode)?
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27.05.2011 05:38:48   0h 00m   2589    None
27.05.2011 05:02:33   0h 00m   1082    None
27.05.2011 03:40:34   0h 00m   4021    None
26.05.2011 23:48:14   0h 00m   3538    None
26.05.2011 16:06:32   0h 00m   5094    None
Earlier there was some reward for such low shares (0.01***)
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May 27, 2011, 12:11:50 AM
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Why there is no reward in generated block (proportional mode)?
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27.05.2011 05:38:48   0h 00m   2589    None
27.05.2011 05:02:33   0h 00m   1082    None
27.05.2011 03:40:34   0h 00m   4021    None
26.05.2011 23:48:14   0h 00m   3538    None
26.05.2011 16:06:32   0h 00m   5094    None
Earlier there was some reward for such low shares (0.01***)

What is your hash rate as reported by your miner(s)?  Difficulty went up 78% today and maybe you can no longer finish a single share during a round?

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May 27, 2011, 12:12:02 AM
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Why there is no reward in generated block (proportional mode)?
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27.05.2011 05:38:48   0h 00m   2589    None
27.05.2011 05:02:33   0h 00m   1082    None
27.05.2011 03:40:34   0h 00m   4021    None
26.05.2011 23:48:14   0h 00m   3538    None
26.05.2011 16:06:32   0h 00m   5094    None
Earlier there was some reward for such low shares (0.01***)

Your miners didn't submit any shares for that block.

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May 27, 2011, 12:47:03 AM
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Average hash rate in 1 hour  - 205 MH/s
Does it meen that i calculated shares but its not submitted? Why its marked in shares column then.

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Time/Link   Found in   Total shares   Reward
27.05.2011 06:29:46   0h 10m   200471    0.00532247
27.05.2011 06:19:40   0h 40m   810855    0.00669910
27.05.2011 05:38:48   0h 00m   2589    None
27.05.2011 05:38:37   0h 15m   306239    0.00633492
27.05.2011 05:23:09   0h 20m   411239    0.00719411
27.05.2011 05:02:33   0h 00m   1082    None
27.05.2011 05:02:22   0h 18m   380065    0.00701854
27.05.2011 04:43:23   0h 37m   736802    0.00770153
27.05.2011 04:06:22   0h 11m   222872    0.00761648
27.05.2011 03:55:10   0h 14m   294037    0.00544319
27.05.2011 03:40:34   0h 00m   4021    None
27.05.2011 03:40:18   0h 11m   240401    0.00786810
27.05.2011 03:28:21   0h 05m   113359    0.00984042

Some days ago i had a reward for even 3000 calculated shares and such problem started before new difficulty.
May be my luck has gone Sad
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May 27, 2011, 12:57:04 AM
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Hey all,

Is the rpc-cuda miner ok to use with deepbit.net?

I've been trying to get it to work, and haven't received any troubleshooting responses yet from that thread.

Any help is appreciated.
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May 27, 2011, 01:13:01 AM
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Hey all,

Is the rpc-cuda miner ok to use with deepbit.net?

I've been trying to get it to work, and haven't received any troubleshooting responses yet from that thread.

Any help is appreciated.

i use it with two gtx460 (gpu in 905mhz), have 72-73mh/s each (windows 7x64 & guiminer - v2011-05-21)
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May 27, 2011, 02:01:23 AM
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Thanks, Karasur.  Smiley
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May 27, 2011, 02:30:30 AM
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Average hash rate in 1 hour  - 205 MH/s
Does it meen that i calculated shares but its not submitted? Why its marked in shares column then.

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Time/Link   Found in   Total shares   Reward
27.05.2011 06:29:46   0h 10m   200471    0.00532247
27.05.2011 06:19:40   0h 40m   810855    0.00669910
27.05.2011 05:38:48   0h 00m   2589    None
27.05.2011 05:38:37   0h 15m   306239    0.00633492
27.05.2011 05:23:09   0h 20m   411239    0.00719411
27.05.2011 05:02:33   0h 00m   1082    None
27.05.2011 05:02:22   0h 18m   380065    0.00701854
27.05.2011 04:43:23   0h 37m   736802    0.00770153
27.05.2011 04:06:22   0h 11m   222872    0.00761648
27.05.2011 03:55:10   0h 14m   294037    0.00544319
27.05.2011 03:40:34   0h 00m   4021    None
27.05.2011 03:40:18   0h 11m   240401    0.00786810
27.05.2011 03:28:21   0h 05m   113359    0.00984042

Some days ago i had a reward for even 3000 calculated shares and such problem started before new difficulty.
May be my luck has gone Sad


All cases of "None" are rounds that lasted less than a minute.  If you look at the number of shares submitted, they range from 1082 to 4021.   Think of how fast the high end users are hashing with all their workers.  Now, watch your miner and see how long it takes to actually get a share accepted.  Essentially, you submitted no shares before the round ended ... you were still working on your first share of the round.  If you are watching the output [i.e. like with Phoenix], you probably would see two lines in a row indicating a new long polling message.  That would be your "None" round.

If the rounds had any duration, say more than one minute or so (depending on your hash rate), then that might indicate something is wrong.  All that you show are 0h 00m which is clearly short enough where you wouldn't have submitted a valid share.

BTW ... those shares are total for the round, not total that you submitted for the round.

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May 27, 2011, 02:31:19 AM
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I have a crossfireX setup with a combination of drivers+SDK that gives no additional CPU load, that's why I like it. With this version of drivers, only old poclbm can mine on slave cores of 5970, other miners will fail (not tested with ufasoft yet).
And it's hard to balance 4 instances of Phoenix on my PCs, some tend to suppres others.

Care to let a brother know what drivers + SDK you are using?

I am using 11.4 drivers and 2.1 SDK on 5850s on Windows Hyper-V AKA Windows Server 2008 R2 Core striped down.

Phoenix does not work for me ether, well it does but the hash rate is low.  My main problem is heat though as you can see I am mining big time.

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May 27, 2011, 03:14:39 AM
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All cases of "None" are rounds that lasted less than a minute.  If you look at the number of shares submitted, they range from 1082 to 4021.   Think of how fast the high end users are hashing with all their workers.  Now, watch your miner and see how long it takes to actually get a share accepted.  Essentially, you submitted no shares before the round ended ... you were still working on your first share of the round.  If you are watching the output [i.e. like with Phoenix], you probably would see two lines in a row indicating a new long polling message.  That would be your "None" round.

Thanks! Anyway couple of weeks and my 200mh/s will be useless  Sad
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Thanks! Anyway couple of weeks and my 200mh/s will be useless  Sad

Already is which is pretty crappy. Ive been getting 1btc a day running 230mhash as of todays change i will be getting 0.5 btc guess its my time to retire.

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very "nice" Angry

Time/Link                Found in   Total shares   
27.05.2011 07:43:18   0h 54m    1089501   
27.05.2011 06:49:06   2h 10m    2609842   
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May 27, 2011, 05:57:53 AM
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Anyone know that site that shows past difficulty on a graph? Im interested in seeing that, considering how many BTC I'm making right now I have stopped reading for the past week and something clearly happened.

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May 27, 2011, 09:25:43 AM
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Anyone know that site that shows past difficulty on a graph? Im interested in seeing that, considering how many BTC I'm making right now I have stopped reading for the past week and something clearly happened.
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May 27, 2011, 01:53:35 PM
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Tycho, I've got a program that checks for changes on a webpage and texts my phone if a criterion is met. Basically, it'll load my deepbit.net API token every 5 minutes and look for a nonactive miner.
Is this okay? I assume that this is one reason why you set up the JSON API.
Yes, that's what JSON API was created for.

So, I dont have 'a program' (well i do but who actually Wants to setup a ghost mouse) [Tycho] how long do you think it'll be until you implement
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