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March 04, 2014, 12:30:05 AM |
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I could create a store - the thing I can't figure out (because I've never done it before) is how you source products. If someone can hook me up with that, I could do a utcstore.com.
Dropship, buy wholesale and resell, take orders, etc. If you'd like to collaborate on an idea I may be open to that. @Halofire, what in the world are you trying to achieve or what point are you trying to argue? I saw you as an avid utc supporter but now it seems that you've changed course. No problem in that, so what the hell are you trying to do convince everyone else on this forum to see what you see??? Never thought I'd be saying this to a respectable guy like you but as all the naysayers, haters, fudders have been told, "IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THEN SELL YOUR COINS AND BOUNCE DUDE!". There's really no point to remain here and cry. "WE" are clearly trying to get this train moving so we don't need folks like you to rain your showers of negativity on those who are making an honest effort behind this coin. Either support everyone, quit crying and do something to help the coin, or just leave peacefully.
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March 04, 2014, 12:36:31 AM |
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what id like to know is....what made AUR so special, and why cant we do the same..or similar?
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bumface (OP)
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March 04, 2014, 12:37:57 AM |
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It's clear that we do not have many TALENTED people here.
Just a lot of people with fluff ideas or complaints. (that includes me also) We need people with useful skills for dev/marketing/designing etc.
So how do we gain those people? We need to make our voices heard first.
My Facebook promotion idea was to hopeuflly gain some fresh new blood into UTC & crypto. We already have over 3000 UTC to promote it to at least 500+ people. That is not bad at all. Who knows, maybe some genius developer who never took interest in Crypto might join us!
Don't just spew fluff ideas with no backbone. Do something first and then let us know to support/help you.
@bumface - Can you start a new Ultracoin Bounty thread here? We need NEW blood. NEW developers. Is ziggy even involved anymore?
I could create a store - the thing I can't figure out (because I've never done it before) is how you source products. If someone can hook me up with that, I could do a utcstore.com. we should have a micro ebay- type store, where people can sell their own stuff for utc
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March 04, 2014, 12:38:30 AM |
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Here's a thought. Create a website that exchanges UTC or any crypto for goods. You can have the customer find the merchandise they want on www.whatever website.com then come back to "UTC for goods.com" and say they want product "X" for "y" amount of fiat. UTCforgoods.com would then say ok, we can order that for you, charge a 5% or so premium for using crypto. have product dropshipped, any problems with products deals with manufacturer. there. who wants to be rich? take my idea and run with it. Go, i implore you to do so. would be awesome if anyone can sell their goods/art/stuff whatever on that website ...
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March 04, 2014, 12:39:28 AM |
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@Halofire, what in the world are you trying to achieve or what point are you trying to argue? I saw you as an avid utc supporter but now it seems that you've changed course. No problem in that, so what the hell are you trying to do convince everyone else on this forum to see what you see??? Never thought I'd be saying this to a respectable guy like you but as all the naysayers, haters, fudders have been told, "IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THEN SELL YOUR COINS AND BOUNCE DUDE!". There's really no point to remain here and cry. "WE" are clearly trying to get this train moving so we don't need folks like you to rain your showers of negativity on those who are making an honest effort behind this coin. Either support everyone, quit crying and do something to help the coin, or just leave peacefully.
I disagree, while Halofire's ideas aren't necessarily good (i don't think they are), if the community had listened to *some* of the "naysayers" and "haters" from the start, utc would probably be in a better position right now. He has the right to speak, if bumface thinks his comments are too negative, he can delete them.
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dcgirl
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March 04, 2014, 12:40:00 AM |
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what id like to know is....what made AUR so special, and why cant we do the same..or similar?
It immediately had a purpose and that purpose was publicized. That's it. If we could come up with a unique, compelling use for Ultracoin, we could do the same thing. Charity's been done (although if you find the right cause we could do that). Retail is being done (tigerdirect, overstock). Tips have been done. Gambling's been done. Porn's been done. Crowd-funding's been done. What else is there? I'm sure if we brainstormed we could find something.
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March 04, 2014, 12:40:33 AM |
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It's clear that we do not have many TALENTED people here.
Just a lot of people with fluff ideas or complaints. (that includes me also) We need people with useful skills for dev/marketing/designing etc.
So how do we gain those people? We need to make our voices heard first.
My Facebook promotion idea was to hopeuflly gain some fresh new blood into UTC & crypto. We already have over 3000 UTC to promote it to at least 500+ people. That is not bad at all. Who knows, maybe some genius developer who never took interest in Crypto might join us!
Don't just spew fluff ideas with no backbone. Do something first and then let us know to support/help you.
@bumface - Can you start a new Ultracoin Bounty thread here? We need NEW blood. NEW developers. Is ziggy even involved anymore?
I could create a store - the thing I can't figure out (because I've never done it before) is how you source products. If someone can hook me up with that, I could do a utcstore.com. we should have a micro ebay- type store, where people can sell their own stuff for utc yes..similar to ioffer.com?
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dcgirl
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March 04, 2014, 12:41:06 AM |
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Here's a thought. Create a website that exchanges UTC or any crypto for goods. You can have the customer find the merchandise they want on www.whatever website.com then come back to "UTC for goods.com" and say they want product "X" for "y" amount of fiat. UTCforgoods.com would then say ok, we can order that for you, charge a 5% or so premium for using crypto. have product dropshipped, any problems with products deals with manufacturer. there. who wants to be rich? take my idea and run with it. Go, i implore you to do so. would be awesome if anyone can sell their goods/art/stuff whatever on that website ... maybe like an etsy/deviantart site? That's a really good idea.
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gerby
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March 04, 2014, 12:43:19 AM |
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I thought that charity was a good idea. Even though its already been done, why can't we do it again with utc. And is the coin limited to how many uses or purposes it has?
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March 04, 2014, 12:45:49 AM |
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Here's a thought. Create a website that exchanges UTC or any crypto for goods. You can have the customer find the merchandise they want on www.whatever website.com then come back to "UTC for goods.com" and say they want product "X" for "y" amount of fiat. UTCforgoods.com would then say ok, we can order that for you, charge a 5% or so premium for using crypto. have product dropshipped, any problems with products deals with manufacturer. there. who wants to be rich? take my idea and run with it. Go, i implore you to do so. would be awesome if anyone can sell their goods/art/stuff whatever on that website ... maybe like an etsy/deviantart site? That's a really good idea. it doesnt hv to to MEGA, people want to see it works ... first
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March 04, 2014, 12:47:41 AM Last edit: March 04, 2014, 01:02:17 AM by PaulR1 |
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Wonderfull to see how the community is pulling together in a cryptsy twitter campain Ah, Bumface is in the house! Question for you - do we have any chance at getting on Cryptsy? We could really use your insight. yes, it would be good.We just need 1 stable exchange that people trust so the community can bundle together. lets not forget: before the lag on crypto trade we were doing 285 BTC volume per day on UTC/BTC + 14000 dollar on UTC/USD Ahaa i read a good question of dcGirl:"Ah, Bumface is in the house! Question for you - do we have any chance at getting on Cryptsy? We could really use your insight"Am I right here dcgirl and you try to ask Bumface here something like : Please give me a answer about if we will get on Cryptsy soon???And then i see a answer of Bumface which i cannot understand. Is Bumface so smart to talk around and not answering the question at all, and are the UTC followers of this community hanging on his feet and don’t see he give no answer at all The "answer" of Bumface : "yes, it would be good. We just need 1 stable exchange that people trust so the community can bundle together. let’s not forget: before the lag on crypto trade we were doing 285 BTC volume per day on UTC/BTC + 14000 dollar on UTC/USD" I am confused here... dcGirl ask a clear question.... Bumface answers but it is not clear what he tell in his answer.... just some small talk... dcgirl accept this and keep further silent and dont ask here question again ... So manny of the "community" is on a lease at Bumface i guess
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March 04, 2014, 12:47:43 AM |
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what id like to know is....what made AUR so special, and why cant we do the same..or similar?
It immediately had a purpose and that purpose was publicized. That's it. If we could come up with a unique, compelling use for Ultracoin, we could do the same thing. Charity's been done (although if you find the right cause we could do that). Retail is being done (tigerdirect, overstock). Tips have been done. Gambling's been done. Porn's been done. Crowd-funding's been done. What else is there? I'm sure if we brainstormed we could find something. A few things. Most stores need an API so that they know what to charge in UTC at any given moment. With a currency that tends to swing 10% every couple minutes, which is the margin for a lot of places, it's impractical to price it without having the API link to an exchange price. And that's the second thing, we need a stable exchange so that merchants that decide to take the coin can trade if for BTC or USD if they don't want to hold it. Those are pretty much necessities for any store that does any volume. Unique is good, and I agree it would catapult it like aurora if it were something truly special. But almost nobody has been able to do real retail and that would be a major score. I don't see any major stores happening, I'm just pointing out that retail places certainly aren't nothing. Next, tips have been done, but they are one of the easiest way to spread it around. Unfortunately, it's not cool tipping 1 UTC = 100 Doge (or something, i don't know the number). A big number tip just sounds better. Same arguments can be made for gambling, charity, etc. It isn't so much that those things are unique as much as they are necessary steps in showing the coin has utility and has active development around it.
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Halofire
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March 04, 2014, 12:55:00 AM |
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I could create a store - the thing I can't figure out (because I've never done it before) is how you source products. If someone can hook me up with that, I could do a utcstore.com.
Dropship, buy wholesale and resell, take orders, etc. If you'd like to collaborate on an idea I may be open to that. @Halofire, what in the world are you trying to achieve or what point are you trying to argue? I saw you as an avid utc supporter but now it seems that you've changed course. No problem in that, so what the hell are you trying to do convince everyone else on this forum to see what you see??? Never thought I'd be saying this to a respectable guy like you but as all the naysayers, haters, fudders have been told, "IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THEN SELL YOUR COINS AND BOUNCE DUDE!". There's really no point to remain here and cry. "WE" are clearly trying to get this train moving so we don't need folks like you to rain your showers of negativity on those who are making an honest effort behind this coin. Either support everyone, quit crying and do something to help the coin, or just leave peacefully. It's not that I don't support the coin, and yes i did say i was going to sell my coins, but I want to believe in UTC so friggin bad, the whole reason I don't sell my coin, is that CT put it on their site. If CT believed in the coin, we should too, but with the stunt CT pulled, maybe i have residual feelings and thats's maybe why my trading is off as well. I am tired of watching everyone pump UTC donations into a contest when the community shouldn't have to, or pour energy into newsfeeds and social media that won't yield better results. The results are the same as every coins results. T he price has sickened me of late, I'm sure it has with everyone. I don't see UTC being above the rest of the coins unless we do something to make the coin UNIQUE. That's what I'm trying to stress. I take action when I have a problem and I get results. Problem is, i can't take action and the problem persists and it frustrates the hell out of me. It all boils down to: 1: utc was fine before gox and ct crap. 2: everyone has ideas that maintain the coin at present levels, which is good, but won't yield better results and just wastes time, energy, and UTC and further tarnishes coin image. The BTC community views UTC as just another coin, that's what I've been trying to tell you guys. It's reflected in the price, price is public opinion. 3: Dev should have a more solid coin before release in the respect that it needs avenues to be sold for more than just fiat and other crypto like 90% of other coins and not just be traded among us. 4: I feel partial to UTC because I have been around for so long. 5: No one else is really listening to what I have to say, and I know my ideas are solid and will change utc and all crypto forever. Since I've said my peace: dcgirl has responded in agree-ance about my store idea, and I have been informed about DOGE having a store. i am smart enough to design a store, but i lack the time and patience to learn how to, as I'd be starting from scratch. Sorry. Was not meant to troll or fud, incentive the whole time was to better the coin and bring it up on top again. My 'rants' were always for bettering UTC. I'm telling ya all what it will take, and what UTC is as a coin, atm. Again, my apologies.
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March 04, 2014, 12:57:17 AM |
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My interpetation of what Bumface is saying:
"yes, it would be nice to be on cryptsy, but untill the coin is doing well and growing for itself, it will not be on cryptsy"
Which then brings me to the point of....why would we need cryptsy if the coin was doing well enough on its own?
Correct me if I'm wrong please.
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March 04, 2014, 12:59:07 AM |
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should we raise some funds to hire an experienced coder for the store ?
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Halofire
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March 04, 2014, 01:02:58 AM |
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If we want store to be community owned: a way to raise funds is to offer stock options of the store.
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March 04, 2014, 01:05:27 AM |
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If we want store to be community owned: a way to raise funds is to offer stock options of the store.
im in.
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dcgirl
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March 04, 2014, 01:06:42 AM |
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You can hire someone if you want, or it could be community owned. I am capable of developing a store, but if I did, I would retain ownership of it (unless compensated for development). (I own a software development company)
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dcgirl
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March 04, 2014, 01:08:34 AM |
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Wonderfull to see how the community is pulling together in a cryptsy twitter campain Ah, Bumface is in the house! Question for you - do we have any chance at getting on Cryptsy? We could really use your insight. yes, it would be good.We just need 1 stable exchange that people trust so the community can bundle together. lets not forget: before the lag on crypto trade we were doing 285 BTC volume per day on UTC/BTC + 14000 dollar on UTC/USD Ahaa i read a good question of dcGirl:"Ah, Bumface is in the house! Question for you - do we have any chance at getting on Cryptsy? We could really use your insight"Am I right here dcgirl and you try to ask Bumface here something like : Please give me a answer about if we will get on Cryptsy soon???And then i see a answer of Bumface which i cannot understand. Is Bumface so smart to talk around and not answering the question at all, and are the UTC followers of this community hanging on his feet and don’t see he give no answer at all The "answer" of Bumface : "yes, it would be good. We just need 1 stable exchange that people trust so the community can bundle together. let’s not forget: before the lag on crypto trade we were doing 285 BTC volume per day on UTC/BTC + 14000 dollar on UTC/USD" I am confused here... dcGirl ask a clear question.... Bumface answers but it is not clear what he tell in his answer.... just some small talk... dcgirl accept this and keep further silent and dont ask here question again ... So manny of the "community" is on a lease at Bumface i guess He didn't really answer, but I didn't necessarily accept that. I think this just told me very clearly that he is not going to answer our questions.
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Halofire
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March 04, 2014, 01:11:32 AM |
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with all the talk about the store, i see a bright future now for UTC. Awesome.
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