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February 02, 2015, 06:03:51 PM
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There was a small network issue last night that I'm looking into, enforcement is off while I figure out what happened. That's actually the exact block that caused it too.

I posted on DCT, but it goes back farther than that block: http://explorer.darkcoin.fr/block/00000000000fe96f3f314626581dfebc7b9372cc18f90daf7335a87d36eceb4b

Same miner.

Well, if enforcement is off...
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February 02, 2015, 06:09:04 PM
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Before I went all in into Darkcoin I made a following calculation (mind you, I do NOT see DRK as a shadowy proposition at all)

* 22.67% of the world's economy is shadow economy;                                    
* if Bitcoin is (controlled) and DRK not; if 100% of all legal transactions are made in BTC, 22.67% are still left for DRK                                     
* on May 29, 2014, DRK = $10.96 vs. BTC = $614.38                                    
* on May 29, 2014 DRK / BTC 0.01811                                    
* on May 29, 2014 BTC MC is $7,885,362,984                                    
* on May 29, 2014 DRK MC is $47,580,747                                      
* DRK / BTC MC ratio is >>>    0.603405919 ( on May 29, 2014)                        
* if DRK goes to parity of 1 DRK = 1 BTC, DRK MC would be    2667567714                  
* 1 DRK = 1 BRC gives DRK MC of >>> 33.82923029   % of the BTC MC                     
                                    
* 22.67% shadow economy vs. 33.83% max MC ratio ~ DRK = 0.80 BTC is kind kind of a max value for DRK                                     
* 4,450% growth in DRK price, or 44.50 more than today is possible                                  


What? Cheesy I don't really see the logic in this.
Try harder in fact this is very logic!

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February 02, 2015, 06:11:12 PM
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There was a small network issue last night that I'm looking into, enforcement is off while I figure out what happened. That's actually the exact block that caused it too.

I posted on DCT, but it goes back farther than that block: http://explorer.darkcoin.fr/block/00000000000fe96f3f314626581dfebc7b9372cc18f90daf7335a87d36eceb4b

Same miner.

Well, if enforcement is off...

Um... this block is older than the one posted so the problem should have, at minimum, occurred in the older block... It doesn't make sense to turn off enforcement before the block that supposedly caused it occurred, unless of course you can predict the future (in which case, you already know the problem).
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February 02, 2015, 06:19:08 PM
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Um... this block is older than the one posted so the problem should have, at minimum, occurred in the older block... It doesn't make sense to turn off enforcement before the block that supposedly caused it occurred, unless of course you can predict the future (in which case, you already know the problem).

Ah, I see your point... seems that one was just about 26h ago...

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Hash: 0000000000133e567f02ef64c141bb73cbf669fec2370bf49c17dd95dbae716a
Previous Block: 00000000000ef86d1e23ebe1b055e72486c11fb9a0554ed10c04a7b133bbdb39
Next Block: 00000000000fe96f3f314626581dfebc7b9372cc18f90daf7335a87d36eceb4b
Height: 212952
Version: 2
Transaction Merkle Root: 9a2e8fe2b5887ca6e1f6287098fa3e8fbc44210b35789ddabaee2423b896400f
Time: 1422807820 (2015-02-01 16:23:40)
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February 02, 2015, 06:22:07 PM
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Hello DarkCoin Thread,

I have a question to ask, and I am hoping someone can help.

First I'd like to say I have always liked the development of DarkCoin, but I never got into it fully.

Never downloaded any miners, nor any wallets,never even visited the block explorer.

I have a major issue, that I think should be brought to the attention of some people.

I have F-Secure on my computer, and it just found this backdoor DarkCoin miner on my computer.



Just wondering what is taking place here?

I have obviously removed it but just wondering how much DRK coin I mined for someone as I have no idea how it got on my computer.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,

-trade2winnn

It's not Darkcoin's fault you downloaded some sort of malware that had a miner in it. Anyone can name the file whatever they want...
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February 02, 2015, 06:24:40 PM
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Hello DarkCoin Thread,

I have a question to ask, and I am hoping someone can help.

First I'd like to say I have always liked the development of DarkCoin, but I never got into it fully.

Never downloaded any miners, nor any wallets,never even visited the block explorer.

I have a major issue, that I think should be brought to the attention of some people.

I have F-Secure on my computer, and it just found this backdoor DarkCoin miner on my computer.



Just wondering what is taking place here?

I have obviously removed it but just wondering how much DRK coin I mined for someone as I have no idea how it got on my computer.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,

-trade2winnn

That really depends on the source where you grabbed it from.

I remember an optimized miner by girino that had a backdoor that had an auto-switch hardcoded into it (closed source), where it would switch and mine for him for a bit every hour, something like 2%... He never publicly released this info until he was "caught" and got flamed for it. Then he tried to cover his tracks by releasing the code and inviting people to "feel free to remove the optional code". What a douche...

Have you used other miners with this same anti-virus setup?

EDIT: Actually, IIRC, that was the first optimized X11 miner I ever used. And he only "released" it because it was retro-engineered. This second part I'm not quite certain is accurate, but something very very close to this I distinctly remember.

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February 02, 2015, 06:37:08 PM
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Damn... Paycoin is sinking so fast... even though I have 0, it pains me to see it every time I refresh the stats. I really feel for those who fell for the apparent scam and are invested...

I agree with you there, it's heartbreaking for all of those garza coolaid drinkers. 

I was dabbling in XPY's massive swings a little recently and made a quick 1btc.  I am so very thankful that I didn't end up as a bagholder and help fund his car purchase (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10336529#msg10336529) just because I was trying to increase my drk position.
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February 02, 2015, 06:57:18 PM
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Hello DarkCoin Thread,

I have a question to ask, and I am hoping someone can help.

First I'd like to say I have always liked the development of DarkCoin, but I never got into it fully.

Never downloaded any miners, nor any wallets,never even visited the block explorer.

I have a major issue, that I think should be brought to the attention of some people.

I have F-Secure on my computer, and it just found this backdoor DarkCoin miner on my computer.



Just wondering what is taking place here?

I have obviously removed it but just wondering how much DRK coin I mined for someone as I have no idea how it got on my computer.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,

-trade2winnn

Where can I buy one of those?
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February 02, 2015, 07:10:21 PM
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This is an old cpu miner if I remember well, was for X11 improovement, it name darkcoin because it was the first x11 coin.
If it was instaled alone yes scan you cumputer well.
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February 02, 2015, 07:10:34 PM
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Hello DarkCoin Thread,

I have a question to ask, and I am hoping someone can help.

First I'd like to say I have always liked the development of DarkCoin, but I never got into it fully.

Never downloaded any miners, nor any wallets,never even visited the block explorer.

I have a major issue, that I think should be brought to the attention of some people.

I have F-Secure on my computer, and it just found this backdoor DarkCoin miner on my computer.



Just wondering what is taking place here?

I have obviously removed it but just wondering how much DRK coin I mined for someone as I have no idea how it got on my computer.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,

-trade2winnn

That really depends on the source where you grabbed it from.

I remember an optimized miner by girino that had a backdoor that had an auto-switch hardcoded into it (closed source), where it would switch and mine for him for a bit every hour, something like 2%... He never publicly released this info until he was "caught" and got flamed for it. Then he tried to cover his tracks by releasing the code and inviting people to "feel free to remove the optional code". What a douche...

Have you used other miners with this same anti-virus setup?

EDIT: Actually, IIRC, that was the first optimized X11 miner I ever used. And he only "released" it because it was retro-engineered. This second part I'm not quite certain is accurate, but something very very close to this I distinctly remember.



No I haven't. I actually haven't downloaded any miners on this computer at all...its a bit concerning.

F-Secure keeps finding them...



Was just wondering if anyone has heard of a DarkCoin backdoor before.

-trade2winnn

There is no backdoor in Darkcoin. You said it yourself, you never downloaded a miner or wallet from Darkcoin's website so somewhere you got the malware installed on your computer (be it a different download or rogue website). It looks sloppy if you're trying to imply this is Darkcoin's fault. It may be mining DRK, but it's not affiliated with it--be no different than if it was mining BTC (granted, stupid to mine BTC with a CPU but hopefully you get the point).
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February 02, 2015, 07:15:44 PM
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Was just wondering if anyone has heard of a DarkCoin backdoor before.

-trade2winnn

Send me the file and i will tell you if it's a false positive or not.
Anyway some "hackers" are using mining tools for to get coins with your computer, Some antivirus companies decided to detect all the mining tools so it may be a false positive.  
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February 02, 2015, 07:17:51 PM
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at some point in the future, the issue will be security, and the ability to have a small device plugged into an obscure lan port while pointed to a cold wallet, could be critical to survival in that hypothetical day.

Wow.

That sounds awsome. Conjures up the vision of masternodes as a swarm of insects rather than marble pillars which is a lot more conducive to the idea of decentralisation.

I've been working at getting this point across on other forums, that the masternode population is not "static" (i.e. they can disappear and reappear, the population can grow / shrink etc). The more of a 'moving target' the masternode network is in reality the more secure it will appear conceptually in my opinion.
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February 02, 2015, 07:18:22 PM
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I have obviously removed it but just wondering how much DRK coin I mined for someone as I have no idea how it got on my computer.

You have probably mined at most 0.0001 DRK. CPU mining is very inefficient these days.


it may be a false positive. 

He said he hasn't (knowingly) downloaded any miners on his computer. So it's obviously malware that is mining for the criminal.
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February 02, 2015, 07:27:19 PM
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TESTNET ONLY

PLEASE UPDATE

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/v0-11-1-x-instantx-release-testing.3826/page-9#post-39856

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February 02, 2015, 07:31:49 PM
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This rise is completly faked,very dangerous to trade in.At some point the dump will start,be wise and dont buy now.
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February 02, 2015, 07:32:41 PM
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This rise is completly faked,very dangerous to trade in.At some point the dump will start,be wise and dont buy now.

Is it true?
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February 02, 2015, 07:32:59 PM
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This rise is completly faked,very dangerous to trade in.At some point the dump will start,be wise and dont buy now.


You're saying someone has $250,000 a day to throw at DRK of fake volume?  Roll Eyes

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February 02, 2015, 07:35:47 PM
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This rise is completly faked,very dangerous to trade in.At some point the dump will start,be wise and dont buy now.


Translation: I am buying now. Everyone else wait until I have bought mine before the rise gets too high.

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February 02, 2015, 07:36:35 PM
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This rise is completly faked,very dangerous to trade in.At some point the dump will start,be wise and dont buy now.


You're saying someone has $250,000 a day to throw at DRK of fake volume?  Roll Eyes

Yes,is it so hard to believe?The behaviour of trading the past 3 days is so fake as hell.
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February 02, 2015, 07:36:45 PM
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This rise is completly faked,very dangerous to trade in.At some point the dump will start,be wise and dont buy now.


I disagree with this being faked.  This is new money.  However the risk of dump is there regardless of the course of the rise.

What are your reasons for thinking this is faked?

EDIT:  The Bot that was fillings its own sells was weird but that fake volume disappeared over the weekend.
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