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August 08, 2015, 10:02:35 AM |
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Discussion : setting up an exchange function on blockchain level or a side-chain, what would it involve ? how easy or difficult would it be ? should we link such exchange function to Bitcoin or not ?
My thoughts : for now investigate ways to receive Bitcoin directly in the Dash wallet and give users control to convert it to Dash and visa versa For the future we could try to cut out Bitcoin / Exchanges altogether and pay FIAT to receive Dash directly but that would require starting or taking over companties that actually have a license to trade FIAT to cryptocurrency
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Learn from the past, set detailed and vivid goals for the future and live in the only moment of time over which you have any control : now
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noobtrader
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August 08, 2015, 10:30:22 AM |
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Discussion : setting up an exchange function on blockchain level or a side-chain, what would it involve ? how easy or difficult would it be ? should we link such exchange function to Bitcoin or not ?
My thoughts : for now investigate ways to receive Bitcoin directly in the Dash wallet and give users control to convert it to Dash and visa versa For the future we could try to cut out Bitcoin / Exchanges altogether and pay FIAT to receive Dash directly but that would require starting or taking over companties that actually have a license to trade FIAT to cryptocurrency
the best bet would be using Encompass Multcoin wallet as it can hold multiple coin, then creating such environment which MN become escrow to enable transaction.
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"...I suspect we need a better incentive for users to run nodes instead of relying solely on altruism...", satoshi@vistomail.com
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alganonim
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August 08, 2015, 12:17:56 PM |
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Maybe, just maybe Bitfinex, never planned to change Darkcoin tag to DASH, and now low volume for delisting is just an excuse, they just make a place for ETH or preparing for going legal with bitlicense like Poloniex did.
Poloniex didn't go with bitlicense, they are moving out of the state to avoid it. They did implement some tired KYC requirements, which I understand bitfinex has/had too. My bad, it was just inaccurate simplification, KYC / AML / whatever ... LOL So I was accidentally right https://www.bitfinex.com/pages/announcements/?id=51"BitLicense Restrictions for New York Customers Posted: August 07, 2015 22:44 Due to financial regulation changes in the State of New York, certain Bitfinex services are no longer available for New York Residents...."
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sangoku
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August 08, 2015, 03:25:46 PM |
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I fixed it Price of Monero in May 2014 0.0049 BTC Today 0.0023 BTC
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DΛSH is digital cash. Transactions are obscured in the blockchain, making them private from the wallet. You can send Dash to family or friends, or pay for goods or services, anywhere in the world. DΛSH Anonymous and Untraceable. The Perfect Digital Cash And The Best Way To Protect Your Privacy https://www.dashpay.io DΛSH is 59.5 times faster with syncing and updating than Monero.My DΛSH Address: XgF6sNzGHU58dn36WsC16no9FHct6nPeZD
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sangoku
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August 08, 2015, 03:39:12 PM |
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I fixed it Price of Monero in May 2014 0.0049 BTC Today 0.0023 BTC Price of drk June 2 2014 0.0027 Today 0.0117 http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/dash/Price of darkcoin June 2 2014 0.019 BTC Price of Monero June 16 2014 0.0061 BTC
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DΛSH is digital cash. Transactions are obscured in the blockchain, making them private from the wallet. You can send Dash to family or friends, or pay for goods or services, anywhere in the world. DΛSH Anonymous and Untraceable. The Perfect Digital Cash And The Best Way To Protect Your Privacy https://www.dashpay.io DΛSH is 59.5 times faster with syncing and updating than Monero.My DΛSH Address: XgF6sNzGHU58dn36WsC16no9FHct6nPeZD
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dreamspark
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August 08, 2015, 03:47:03 PM |
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I fixed it Price of Monero in May 2014 0.0049 BTC Today 0.0023 BTC Price of drk June 2 2014 0.0027 Today 0.0117 http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/dash/Price of darkcoin June 2 2014 0.019 BTC Price of Monero June 16 2014 0.0061 BTC Im not even sure what you're trying to prove but you need to stop geting historical data from coin market cap. Price of drk hit 0.027 in the week beggining June 2. Xmr price today is 0.0026 and not 0.0023. Im not even trolling point is both are down from historical highs, dur
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sangoku
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August 08, 2015, 03:49:57 PM |
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Look the graphic http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monero/June 16 2016 0.0061 BTC Today 0.0023 http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/dash/June 2 2014 0.019 BTC Today 0.012 BTC
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DΛSH is digital cash. Transactions are obscured in the blockchain, making them private from the wallet. You can send Dash to family or friends, or pay for goods or services, anywhere in the world. DΛSH Anonymous and Untraceable. The Perfect Digital Cash And The Best Way To Protect Your Privacy https://www.dashpay.io DΛSH is 59.5 times faster with syncing and updating than Monero.My DΛSH Address: XgF6sNzGHU58dn36WsC16no9FHct6nPeZD
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wpalczynski
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August 08, 2015, 04:29:10 PM |
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Don't forget that DASH had a huge instamine to fund development and Monero did not. DASH is a BTC clone, well know and easy to work code. Monero is a totally new code base independent of BTC making development more challenging for someone delving into the code for the first time.
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August 08, 2015, 04:39:16 PM Last edit: August 08, 2015, 04:53:22 PM by sangoku |
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Don't forget that DASH had a huge instamine to fund development and Monero did not. DASH is a BTC clone, well know and easy to work code. Monero is a totally new code base independent of BTC making development more challenging for someone delving into the code for the first time. Off course, Monero is the better, hummmmm, hummmmm We know, we know... For mining Monero ? Just some botnets ;-) And your GUI is very beautiful...beautiful like a command line Your blockchain is so light... What's the last version of your client ? 0.8.8-6b ? No new client ? 6 months that it's the same https://github.com/monero-project/bitmoneroTake your shit and return in the Monero topic ;-) And FYI Monero is a cryptocurrency. It was created in April 2014 as a fork of Bytecoin (BCN) and became the second CryptoNote-based cryptocurrency. So Monero is a totally new code fork
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DΛSH is digital cash. Transactions are obscured in the blockchain, making them private from the wallet. You can send Dash to family or friends, or pay for goods or services, anywhere in the world. DΛSH Anonymous and Untraceable. The Perfect Digital Cash And The Best Way To Protect Your Privacy https://www.dashpay.io DΛSH is 59.5 times faster with syncing and updating than Monero.My DΛSH Address: XgF6sNzGHU58dn36WsC16no9FHct6nPeZD
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alex-ru
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August 08, 2015, 04:41:25 PM |
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Price of Mo--ro in May 2014 0.0049 BTC Today 0.0023 BTC
Cryptonote forks (especially Mo-ro) have no chance to become competitors to Dash (for users, not speculators). No need to promote them here and let them hope they can be a competitor.
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Minotaur26
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August 08, 2015, 04:45:25 PM |
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I don't know where the notion that for one coin to be successful another coin needs to fail came from? Each project in crypto has its own challenges and success or failure will be determined by its ability to tackle those challenges. The greatest challenge of all is to attract users, people that want to hold and use crypto for the benefits it brings and not to speculate or invest. Even BTC is still facing that challenge, when people start buying a cryptocurrency not to speculate or invest but to use it for day to day stuff with no expectation of an ROI that project has achieved success.
As an investor you must look for projects that have a vision and a team with the ability to realize that vision of bringing added value features to end users and merchants that they may appreciate beyond any ROI expectation. Not everyone can be an investor, for crypto to succeed there must be users and we are not there yet. Dash's two tier platform, decentralized governance, paid full node operation, represents an original approach that may help produce many different added value features for end users, for now we have privacy and instant confirmations but is really designed as a platform where many things can be built. Our success will depend on our own ability to produce added value services and bring them to market in a way people can understand and use and this will take time.
Of course to get to the long term we must survive the short term, short term Dash has a solid and committed development team and a very active community. We must focus on the tasks at hand, trolling or shilling on forums makes no difference
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rentahash
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August 08, 2015, 04:55:38 PM |
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I dont understand why monero guys have the need to come here explaining to DASH community how powerful and wonderful their coin is.. Please monero guys leave us alone, we wish u all the best in your development, hope you will make your dreams come true!
DASH is unique with its intuitive BTC evolution! There are many proofs for that...
Myself started mining and buying drk/DASH long after so called "instamined" period, I dont have any doubts that I invested in real thing!
Noone can change my mind except dev team if they start to abandon project... which I cant see it happening especially after budgeting them directly from the blockchain... We have evoluted on many dimensions and soon we will be a real world example how any decentralized open source project should work!
We are going to became the template of future generation organisation/project development!!!
Every day I feel better how things are going inside DASH community!
Long Live DASH!
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Minotaur26
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August 08, 2015, 05:05:00 PM |
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The reality about altcoin competition
You know what, thinking about it, I feel antagonizing with another project and tying your success or failure to what happens to a different project is deep down just an excuse to ignore the fact that no altcoin project is close to getting any meaningful adoption yet. Is easier to go to coinmarketcap.com as a measure of success and say we are in X place and we just went pass Y project. How does that matter? It does not, is just an excuse because the reality is no altcoin project is known in the real world in any substantial way and that is the real challenge for people that will never participate in crypto forums or invest in altcoin projects to at least know about other alternatives to BTC.
We should measure our success in that direction. Measure public awareness, adoption, accessibility to coins, partnerships and integration to services. Every 6 month or so we should ask ourselves:
1) Is public awareness of our project increasing? Are people more informed and understand better what we are doing? Do they know us more outside of the crypto circles?
2) Is adoption increasing? Are there more services and ways to use Dash for end users?
4) Are our added value features more robust and easy to use than they were 6 months ago?
5) Is it easier to buy coins with FIAT? Are there more vehicles for the public to get access to coins if they wanted to buy some?
We should revise progress on these questions every few months and our actions and energy should be directed to improving those performance indicators. Everything else and all the forum interaction between different altcoin camps is just a distraction and a big waste of time. This applies to all coins, it would be much more productive if we all faced reality and measure success in a way that matters instead of hiding behind coinmarketcap rankings that at this point in time mean nothing to any project other than Bitcoin.
Keep it real.
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wpalczynski
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August 08, 2015, 05:06:40 PM |
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The reality about altcoin competition
You know what, thinking about it, I feel antagonizing with another project and tying your success or failure to what happens to a different project is deep down just an excuse to ignore the fact that no altcoin project is close to getting any meaningful adoption yet. Is easier to go to coinmarketcap.com as a measure of success and say we are in X place and we just went pass Y project. How does that matter? It does not, is just an excuse because the reality is no altcoin project is known in the real world in any substantial way and that is the real challenge for people that will never participate in crypto forums or invest in altcoin projects to at least know about other alternatives to BTC.
We should measure our success in that direction. Measure public awareness, adoption, accessibility to coins, partnerships and integration to services. Every 6 month or so we should ask ourselves:
1) Is public awareness of our project increasing? Are people more informed and understand better what we are doing? Do they know us more outside of the crypto circles?
2) Is adoption increasing? Are there more services and ways to use Dash for end users?
4) Are our added value features more robust and easy to use than they were 6 months ago?
5) Is is easier to buy coins with FIAT? Are there more vehicles for the public to get access to coins if they wanted to buy some?
We should revise progress on these questions every few months and our actions and energy should be directed to improving those performance indicators. Everything else and all the forum interaction between different altcoin camps is just a distraction and a big waste of time. This applies to all coins, it would be much more productive if we all faced reality and measure success in a way that matters instead of hiding behind coinmarketcap rankings that at this point in time mean nothing to any project other than Bitcoin.
Keep it real.
Very well said. +1 Bitcoin is really struggling let alone any of our ALT projects. These bitlicense requirements in NY and California are going to set the whole scene back. Its sad to see. The two most influential states are getting this handicap applied. NY, financial center and California - Silicone Valley. Traditionally the center of Tech innovation.
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August 08, 2015, 05:19:17 PM |
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The reality about altcoin competition
You know what, thinking about it, I feel antagonizing with another project and tying your success or failure to what happens to a different project is deep down just an excuse to ignore the fact that no altcoin project is close to getting any meaningful adoption yet. Is easier to go to coinmarketcap.com as a measure of success and say we are in X place and we just went pass Y project. How does that matter? It does not, is just an excuse because the reality is no altcoin project is known in the real world in any substantial way and that is the real challenge for people that will never participate in crypto forums or invest in altcoin projects to at least know about other alternatives to BTC.
We should measure our success in that direction. Measure public awareness, adoption, accessibility to coins, partnerships and integration to services. Every 6 month or so we should ask ourselves:
1) Is public awareness of our project increasing? Are people more informed and understand better what we are doing? Do they know us more outside of the crypto circles?
2) Is adoption increasing? Are there more services and ways to use Dash for end users?
4) Are our added value features more robust and easy to use than they were 6 months ago?
5) Is it easier to buy coins with FIAT? Are there more vehicles for the public to get access to coins if they wanted to buy some?
We should revise progress on these questions every few months and our actions and energy should be directed to improving those performance indicators. Everything else and all the forum interaction between different altcoin camps is just a distraction and a big waste of time. This applies to all coins, it would be much more productive if we all faced reality and measure success in a way that matters instead of hiding behind coinmarketcap rankings that at this point in time mean nothing to any project other than Bitcoin.
Keep it real.
Very well said. Lets hope that others will understand it and stop wasting their and our time.
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It is easier to be an aggressive victim than to be a free man.
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Lukas_Jackson
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August 08, 2015, 05:21:34 PM |
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shitty post
Stop pretending that you are some kind of hero trying to save the humanity. Moron. With respect
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It is easier to be an aggressive victim than to be a free man.
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Lukas_Jackson
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August 08, 2015, 05:25:51 PM |
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These bitlicense requirements in NY and California are going to set the whole scene back. Its sad to see. The two most influential states are getting this handicap applied. NY, financial center and California - Silicone Valley. Traditionally the center of Tech innovation.
As we can see we have a bigger trolls out there in a real world
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It is easier to be an aggressive victim than to be a free man.
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August 08, 2015, 07:07:16 PM |
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Smart money
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August 08, 2015, 07:07:38 PM |
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I own more than a 1000 dark :-*coins does the proposal system mean I can vote to stop the nonsense and get my darkcoin back? (bit-lite-dark, any fool sees it makes sense) I cast my vote for that anyway
all those in favor say aye
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August 08, 2015, 07:16:13 PM |
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I dont know what you guys think but I suspect this Bitcoin drop is Ethereum cashing out coins to continue to fund that heavy overhead they have with those big salaries. Just a feeling.
I thought they already sold what was funded back when it was initially raised (at the very least, a substantial portion).
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