[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[GhostPlayer]

Community Funded Video Update!

 

https://dashtalk.org/threads/darkcoin-animated-video.2777/page-6

[1715621155]

1715621155

[1715621155]

1715621155

[1715621155]

1715621155

[TheDasher]

So OTOH controls more than 20% of all master nodes.  That cant be good for DASH faux-anonymity.

[illodin]

So OTOH controls more than 20% of all master nodes.  That cant be good for DASH faux-anonymity.

But isn't that pretty good when you consider you need 99%+ to have any hope of de-anonymization?

[TheDasher]

How long does it take to fully mix 3000 DASH from the time they first hit your wallet?

[dazbarlby]

So OTOH controls more than 20% of all master nodes.  That cant be good for DASH...

But isn't that pretty good when you consider you need 99%+ to have any hope of de-anonymization?

Am I right in saying this becomes totally irrelevant when MN blinding is implemented?

[tungfa]

Community Funded Video Update!

 

https://dashtalk.org/threads/darkcoin-animated-video.2777/page-6

lol - this thing is taking forever - lol

didn't we all knew that ?!
I am not sure where these expectations came from that this will be done in no time ?!

things like that take forever
discussion here, team meeting there, edit discussion, edit, discussion, reedit,.....
and there is more to come ..... 

[sangoku]

So OTOH controls more than 20% of all master nodes.  That cant be good for DASH faux-anonymity.

1.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
2.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
3.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
4.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
5.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
6.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
7.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
8.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
9.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
10.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
11.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
12.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
13.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
14.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
15.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
16.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
17.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
18.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
19.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
20.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
21.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
22.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
23.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
24.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
25.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
26.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
27.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
28.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
29.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
30.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
31.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
32.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
33.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
34.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
35.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
36.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
37.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
38.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
39.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000000%
40.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000001%
41.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000011%
42.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000072%
43.00%   0.000000000000000000000000000476%
44.00%   0.000000000000000000000000002994%
45.00%   0.000000000000000000000000018072%
46.00%   0.000000000000000000000000104864%
47.00%   0.000000000000000000000000585907%
48.00%   0.000000000000000000000003157177%
49.00%   0.000000000000000000000016431848%
50.00%   0.000000000000000000000082718061%
51.00%   0.000000000000000000000403286875%
52.00%   0.000000000000000000001906634691%
53.00%   0.000000000000000000008751239469%
54.00%   0.000000000000000000039039188890%
55.00%   0.000000000000000000169439694425%
56.00%   0.000000000000000000716212935450%
57.00%   0.000000000000000002951130766537%
58.00%   0.000000000000000011864228024849%
59.00%   0.000000000000000046575865222660%
60.00%   0.000000000000000178689910246017%
61.00%   0.000000000000000670481502485578%
62.00%   0.000000000000002462267086575060%
63.00%   0.000000000000008856129455897360%
64.00%   0.000000000000031217485503159900%
65.00%   0.000000000000107911699285832000%
66.00%   0.000000000000366028450492200000%
67.00%   0.000000000001218945296953730000%
68.00%   0.000000000003987613122381620000%
69.00%   0.000000000012821158200314400000%
70.00%   0.000000000040536215597144200000%
71.00%   0.000000000126086299122345000000%
72.00%   0.000000000386011029987512000000%
73.00%   0.000000001163667244198870000000%
74.00%   0.000000003455712297483980000000%
75.00%   0.000000010113490511326700000000%
76.00%   0.000000029180140755877400000000%
77.00%   0.000000083034392727673100000000%
78.00%   0.000000233113924181152000000000%
79.00%   0.000000645903002286135000000000%
80.00%   0.000001766847064778400000000000%
81.00%   0.000004773110738113080000000000%
82.00%   0.000012738203734425700000000000%
83.00%   0.000033592891719906800000000000%
84.00%   0.000087567486675137000000000000%
85.00%   0.000225690904542536000000000000%
86.00%   0.000575275792642648000000000000%
87.00%   0.001450575070699360000000000000%
88.00%   0.003619209906631740000000000000%
89.00%   0.008937180547945420000000000000%
90.00%   0.021847450052839300000000000000%
91.00%   0.052882427867883300000000000000%
92.00%   0.126772830665687000000000000000%
93.00%   0.301048095645893000000000000000%
94.00%   0.708318015672206000000000000000%
95.00%   1.651537438501360000000000000000%
96.00%   3.816793317353630000000000000000%
97.00%   8.744575691882720000000000000000%
98.00%   19.864885008204100000000000000000%
99.00%   44.752321376381000000000000000000%
100.00%   100.000000000000000000000000000000%


1.00%   1E-160
2.00%   1.2089E-136
3.00%   1.4781E-122
4.00%   1.4615E-112
5.00%   8.2718E-105
6.00%   1.7869E-98
7.00%   4.05362E-93
8.00%   1.76685E-88
9.00%   2.18475E-84
10.00%   1E-80
11.00%   2.0484E-77
12.00%   2.16023E-74
13.00%   1.30457E-71
14.00%   4.90053E-69
15.00%   1.22265E-66
16.00%   2.13599E-64
17.00%   2.72844E-62
18.00%   2.64119E-60
19.00%   1.99659E-58
20.00%   1.20893E-56
21.00%   5.99161E-55
22.00%   2.47636E-53
23.00%   8.67415E-52
24.00%   2.61156E-50
25.00%   6.84228E-49
26.00%   1.57713E-47
27.00%   3.22925E-46
28.00%   5.92437E-45
29.00%   9.81386E-44
30.00%   1.47809E-42
31.00%   2.03674E-41
32.00%   2.58225E-40
33.00%   3.02772E-39
34.00%   3.29848E-38
35.00%   3.35308E-37
36.00%   3.19301E-36
37.00%   2.8585E-35
38.00%   2.41372E-34
39.00%   1.92827E-33
40.00%   1.4615E-32
41.00%   1.05368E-31
42.00%   7.24341E-31
43.00%   4.75857E-30
44.00%   2.99374E-29
45.00%   1.80718E-28
46.00%   1.04864E-27
47.00%   5.85907E-27
48.00%   3.15718E-26
49.00%   1.64318E-25
50.00%   8.27181E-25
51.00%   4.03287E-24
52.00%   1.90663E-23
53.00%   8.75124E-23
54.00%   3.90392E-22
55.00%   1.6944E-21
56.00%   7.16213E-21
57.00%   2.95113E-20
58.00%   1.18642E-19
59.00%   4.65759E-19
60.00%   1.7869E-18
61.00%   6.70482E-18
62.00%   2.46227E-17
63.00%   8.85613E-17
64.00%   3.12175E-16
65.00%   1.07912E-15
66.00%   3.66028E-15
67.00%   1.21895E-14
68.00%   3.98761E-14
69.00%   1.28212E-13
70.00%   4.05362E-13
71.00%   1.26086E-12
72.00%   3.86011E-12
73.00%   1.16367E-11
74.00%   3.45571E-11
75.00%   1.01135E-10
76.00%   2.91801E-10
77.00%   8.30344E-10
78.00%   2.33114E-09
79.00%   6.45903E-09
80.00%   1.76685E-08
81.00%   4.77311E-08
82.00%   1.27382E-07
83.00%   3.35929E-07
84.00%   8.75675E-07
85.00%   2.25691E-06
86.00%   5.75276E-06
87.00%   1.45058E-05
88.00%   3.61921E-05
89.00%   8.93718E-05
90.00%   0.000218475
91.00%   0.000528824
92.00%   0.001267728
93.00%   0.003010481
94.00%   0.00708318
95.00%   0.016515374
96.00%   0.038167933
97.00%   0.087445757
98.00%   0.19864885
99.00%   0.447523214
100.00%   1

[entertheabyss]

what happened to i2p integration, was that more of a "roadmap project" or is dash actively moving in that direction or has it been tabled indefinitely?  

We have tor support currently, so it's not really high on the todo list. I think I would rather integrate tor directly, maybe support some seed nodes via the actual code so it's just a configuration option. That seems like a better option.

hey eduffield, thanks for replying, i have been having issues connecting over tor, it seems that the seednode isn't connecting properly and i my client wont find new peers unless they are explicitly added in the config.

hmm, that's unfortunate. I'll add that to my todo list

thanks, for now though is there a list of peers i can connect to?

I don't have a list, maybe someone else does

where/who should i ask?

https://dashtalk.org/threads/dash-darkcoin-tor-relay.4175/

the only node that seems to be working is

Code:

wrwx2dy7jyh32o53.onion

i cant seem to connect to the following nodes:

Code:

addnode=darkcoinie7ghp67.onion
addnode=ssapp53tmftyjmjb.onion
addnode=drkcoinooditvool.onion
addnode=j2dfl3cwxyxpbc7s.onion
addnode=drktor3ptxfon444.onion
addnode=darkcoxbtzggpmcc.onion
addnode=vf6d2mxpuhh2cbxt.onion
addnode=drktalkwaybgxnoq.onion
addnode=darkcoxbtzggpmcc.onion

am i doing something wrong or are these nodes down for everybody?

[tungfa]

what happened to i2p integration, was that more of a "roadmap project" or is dash actively moving in that direction or has it been tabled indefinitely?  

We have tor support currently, so it's not really high on the todo list. I think I would rather integrate tor directly, maybe support some seed nodes via the actual code so it's just a configuration option. That seems like a better option.

hey eduffield, thanks for replying, i have been having issues connecting over tor, it seems that the seednode isn't connecting properly and i my client wont find new peers unless they are explicitly added in the config.

hmm, that's unfortunate. I'll add that to my todo list

thanks, for now though is there a list of peers i can connect to?

I don't have a list, maybe someone else does

where/who should i ask?

https://dashtalk.org/threads/dash-darkcoin-tor-relay.4175/

the only node that seems to be working is

Code:

wrwx2dy7jyh32o53.onion

i cant seem to connect to the following nodes:

Code:

addnode=darkcoinie7ghp67.onion
addnode=ssapp53tmftyjmjb.onion
addnode=drkcoinooditvool.onion
addnode=j2dfl3cwxyxpbc7s.onion
addnode=drktor3ptxfon444.onion
addnode=darkcoxbtzggpmcc.onion
addnode=vf6d2mxpuhh2cbxt.onion
addnode=drktalkwaybgxnoq.onion
addnode=darkcoxbtzggpmcc.onion

am i doing something wrong or are these nodes down for everybody?

There are a bunch of Tor guides listed here
https://dashtalk.org/forums/miscellaneous-darkcoin-guides.87/
you should check them or post in the 1st if you still have problems

[Sub-Ether]

Does anyone want to bet 1 dash with me on what week we will reach 3000 masternodes for fun?
I will let you choose a particular (7 day) week first then I will choose another week slot.
(suggest that the weeks can overlap but if result is on the same day as both choose then no payouts are made)

look competition in setting a MN.
It is very interesting watching the MN number changing.
I think under 20 days  to reach 3000 MNs.

It looked like end of July a month ago but the gradient is decreasing, I would say early September if the trend continues.

[TheDasher]

Cool stats bro but how long does it take to mix 3000 DASH in your wallet?

[bluebit25]

Can't wait for the video to come out

[Sub-Ether]

We have 39 countries now on the map, newbie Luxembourg has joined the party 

http://178.254.18.153/~pub/Dash/masternode_locations_stats.html

[Macrochip]

75.00%   0.000000010113490511326700000000%
76.00%   0.000000029180140755877400000000%
77.00%   0.000000083034392727673100000000%
78.00%   0.000000233113924181152000000000%
79.00%   0.000000645903002286135000000000%
80.00%   0.000001766847064778400000000000%
81.00%   0.000004773110738113080000000000%
82.00%   0.000012738203734425700000000000%
83.00%   0.000033592891719906800000000000%
84.00%   0.000087567486675137000000000000%
85.00%   0.000225690904542536000000000000%
86.00%   0.000575275792642648000000000000%
87.00%   0.001450575070699360000000000000%
88.00%   0.003619209906631740000000000000%
89.00%   0.008937180547945420000000000000%
90.00%   0.021847450052839300000000000000%
91.00%   0.052882427867883300000000000000%
92.00%   0.126772830665687000000000000000%
93.00%   0.301048095645893000000000000000%
94.00%   0.708318015672206000000000000000%
95.00%   1.651537438501360000000000000000%
96.00%   3.816793317353630000000000000000%
97.00%   8.744575691882720000000000000000%
98.00%   19.864885008204100000000000000000%
99.00%   44.752321376381000000000000000000%
100.00%   100.000000000000000000000000000000%

Thank you very much, I was looking for ages for this statistic, because FUDsturds kept claiming chances of deanonymizing are oh so high.  
Looks like Otoh is a real threat to DASHSend security with his massive 0.000000000000000000000000000000% chance of tracing anonymous funds  

I happily accept DashSend mixing currently taking a long time due to low adoption, because this problem is going to solve itself with more and more people using DS. The alternative would be a huge bloated and yet invisible blockchain with no usability due to extreme memory hunger and the possibility of retroactive deanonymization. So this isn't even a trade-off: DASH is an obviously better choice facing the sheer amount of Cryptonotes disadvantages.

[Lebubar]

Does anyone want to bet 1 dash with me on what week we will reach 3000 masternodes for fun?
I will let you choose a particular (7 day) week first then I will choose another week slot.
(suggest that the weeks can overlap but if result is on the same day as both choose then no payouts are made)

look competition in setting a MN.
It is very interesting watching the MN number changing.
I think under 20 days  to reach 3000 MNs.

It looked like end of July a month ago but the gradient is decreasing, I would say early September if the trend continues.

@Sub-Ether:
I already put a date one week ago and I'm ok to bet with you for this date (1 September 2015).

Just our of interest in the build up to 3k MN's, going back in time and trying to find any predictions made by the community or Evan on when 3000 MN would be reached.

I'll see what I can find.

In the meantime, anyone care to guess when we'll reach 3k, days or weeks

I bite : 1 september 2015 we'll reach 3000.

I think it's normal that increasing of number of MN, maybe because last month period I almost win the double than the teorical reward for MN.
EDIT: after some more calculation, last month I win 50% more with my MNs than 2 month ago. (In DASH)
(I took into account in the date that I'll install a new MN in ~10 days )

[TanteStefana2]

Oh, everyone already said it......... How 'bout them Dodgers? eh?

[Sub-Ether]

Does anyone want to bet 1 dash with me on what week we will reach 3000 masternodes for fun?
I will let you choose a particular (7 day) week first then I will choose another week slot.
(suggest that the weeks can overlap but if result is on the same day as both choose then no payouts are made)

look competition in setting a MN.
It is very interesting watching the MN number changing.
I think under 20 days  to reach 3000 MNs.

It looked like end of July a month ago but the gradient is decreasing, I would say early September if the trend continues.

@Sub-Ether:
I already put a date one week ago and I'm ok to bet with you for this date (1 September 2015).

Just our of interest in the build up to 3k MN's, going back in time and trying to find any predictions made by the community or Evan on when 3000 MN would be reached.
I'll see what I can find.
In the meantime, anyone care to guess when we'll reach 3k, days or weeks

I bite : 1 september 2015 we'll reach 3000.
I think it's normal that increasing of number of MN, maybe because last month period I almost win the double than the teorical reward for MN.
EDIT: after some more calculation, last month I win 50% more with my MNs than 2 month ago. (In DASH)
(I took into account in the date that I'll install a new MN in ~10 days )

Super! what fun  
So you are 1st september - 7th september at midnight.
I will bet 8th september to 15th september for 1 Dash  

My payment address,
XuxAsDdAYwRd6dY9BJrJHWMaje9ThgwveC

P.s. please no sneaky adding your masternodes at last minute at the start of september to manipulate the bet 

[sangoku]

Cool stats bro but how long does it take to mix 3000 DASH in your wallet?

1 hour

[illodin]

How long does it take to fully mix 3000 DASH from the time they first hit your wallet?

Try it and report back. I'd imagine anyone who has 3000 DASH has 3 masternodes running right now and won't take them down just to mix them to give you the answer.

[illodin]

So OTOH controls more than 20% of all master nodes.  That cant be good for DASH...

But isn't that pretty good when you consider you need 99%+ to have any hope of de-anonymization?

Am I right in saying this becomes totally irrelevant when MN blinding is implemented?

Depends on what MN blinding means. If it means blind signatures (or some other method that prevents the MN from knowing which inputs and outputs are from the same mixing peer) then yes, you're right. If it means that different outputs are sent to the mixing masternode by routing them through multiple masternodes then no, you're not right. If it means the different outputs are sent to the mixing masternode by routing them through multiple nodes that are not masternodes which allows attacker to set up thousands of non-master sybil nodes for free then maybe, you're partly right.