[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[iCEBREAKER]

Peter Todd is jealous, nothing else.
Dash is better than Bitcoin at all points.

Why would Peter Todd be "jealous" of Dash?  That doesn't make any sense; he's a BTC core dev FFS.

How is Dash "better" than Bitcoin?  Dash's market cap and actual use are miniscule in comparison to BTC.

What about the points made in vertoe's comment?  You ignored them, despite the fact they are damning:

darkcoin or however it will be called next year is not a decentralized entity.

this currency is lead by a single person.

darkcoin is like an old conservative company with strong hierarchical comamnd structures and a single person on the top of the pyramid.

fuck this i tell you.

darkcoin is not decentralized as it still relies on a single person.

the core devs were just a bunch of volunteers exploited for the big thing.

the things going on here are fishy, intransparent and rely on a single entity.

you are probably investors trying to win a gold donkey. or you are simply trying to exploit every possible vector of profit in the coins space. whatever. you are not here because darkcoin is something it claims to be.

what if evan duffield suddenly announces he quits the project tomorrow morning?

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[sangoku]

@iCEABREAKER

Are you the same with Peter Todd ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8DEzSBY0rE&t=23s
You are Gary and Peter Todd is bricktop ?

[Macrochip]

Now that shitBUCKET keeps bringing it up I take great pleasure in responding to this.

darkcoin or however it will be called next year is not a decentralized entity.

Provably a flat out lie.

this currency is lead by a single person.

How is a currency "lead"? The whole sentence doesn't make sense.

darkcoin is like an old conservative company with strong hierarchical comamnd structures and a single person on the top of the pyramid.

So basically exactly like Bitcoin in the beginning until Satoshi disappeared and the system didn't suddenly die.

fuck this i tell you.

Well after all the shit you've been flinging at Dash for no solid reason, I'm compelled to say "Fuck you, too"

darkcoin is not decentralized as it still relies on a single person.

Provably a lie. Dash relies on every user and every Masternode owner.

the core devs were just a bunch of volunteers exploited for the big thing.

Subjective opinion without any real meaning or even the slightest shred of proof. YOU felt exploited for whatever reason and got butthurt that Evan didn't respond to your messages.

the things going on here are fishy, intransparent and rely on a single entity.

You keep repeating the same point over and over again without delivering any evidence.

you are probably investors trying to win a gold donkey. or you are simply trying to exploit every possible vector of profit in the coins space. whatever. you are not here because darkcoin is something it claims to be.

Speak for yourself, you have no idea about people's motives and your judgement does not influence this project in any kind. Neither is it an argument for or against anything, it's just empty word shells.

what if evan duffield suddenly announces he quits the project tomorrow morning?

Switch "Evan Duffield" with "Satoshi Nakamoto" and you have your answer: Jack shit would happen. Development continued business as usual.

I did some digging and realized vertoe is female. Was she in love with Evan and he didn't respond to her advances? Women get wildly emotional over unreciprocated love. Would explain the 30k dump she did earlier this year right before the price exploded: LOL

Regardless: You know what I love? That all the shit Dash gets is 99% identical trash talk Bitcoin received in the early days. In most sentences of retards/critics/trolls you can just replace "Dash" with "Bitcoin" and they're instantly proven wrong by history.

All in all: Eduardo DeScammer failed hard on every level yet again. How's the lawsuit going anyway? Paid back any of your scammed customers, you criminal scumbag?

[aleix]

This Peter Wherever argument is really tiresome. Please trolls study the basic rules to create a rational discussion (this is a basic school level learning, please):

List of fallacies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

Argument from authority
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

I don't fuking care if Satoshi himself or the Pope in Rome say Dash is "bad crypto". I want proof of the critical statement and a rational discussion with our devs to decide who is correct.

Everything else is incredibly idiotic.

[iCEBREAKER]

I don't fuking care if Satoshi himself or the Pope in Rome say Dash is "bad crypto". I want proof of the critical statement and a rational discussion with our devs to decide who is correct.

OK, that's a reasonable position and request.

Here you go:

https://botbot.me/freenode/bitcoin-wizards/2014-11-27/?msg=26349785&page=4

[aleix]

Did you hear just what I said?  Please read it again. RATIONAL DISCUSSION

You are a disgrace even for the trolls

[iCEBREAKER]

Did you hear just what I said?  Please read it again. RATIONAL DISCUSSION

You are a disgrace even for the trolls

I gave you a link to RATIONAL DISCUSSION, in the form of #Bitcoin-wizards analyzing the various factors which make Dash "bad crypto."

That's what you asked for.

Anyway, lurkers are free to read it and decide for themselves:  https://botbot.me/freenode/bitcoin-wizards/2014-11-27/?msg=26349785&page=4

Oh look, gmax says Team DashHole was never interested in ACTUAL TECHNICAL DISCUSSION:

gmaxwell
they were only interested in paying me so they could attach my name to their project, not in actual technical discussions.

(they'd also used my name all over their stuff intially and I had to threaten to go around bad mouthing them to get it removed.)

 

[oaxaca]

https://www.google.com/search?q=Thought-terminating+clich%C3%A9&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

[aleix]

This is a IRC CHAT with a single or multiple "authorities" and no Dash Developer, so is impossible to create a RATIONAL DISCUSSION about anything. This is an OPINION (not based on FACTS or PROOF, just some lame cliché as Oaxaca pointed)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion

Sorry mates for feeding Eduardo.

Sometimes I think there is some intelligence left in our trolls. I am wrong.

[iCEBREAKER]

This is a IRC CHAT with a single or multiple "authorities" and no Dash Developer, so is impossible to create a RATIONAL DISCUSSION about anything. This is an OPINION (not based on FACTS or PROOF, just some lame cliché as Oaxaca pointed)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion

Presuming to lecture me of all people on critical theory and discourse?  How adorable!   

gmax invited Dash devs to #Bitcoin-wizards (home of the authorities, whether you put childish scare-quotes around the term of not).

But they were only interested in golden donkey marketing, not technical discussion:

they've been invited here. But they were only interested in paying me so they could attach my name to their project, not in actual technical discussions.

[Jestah]

I can't help but wonder why they hang around.   They have got to be investors or wanna be investors.  I mean why be here otherwise?

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

https://twitter.com/TaoOfSatoshi/status/626152843465068545?s=09

[iCEBREAKER]

I can't help but wonder why they hang around.   They have got to be investors or wanna be investors.  I mean why be here otherwise?

Why would anyone want to invest in Dash's "snake oil" and "bad crypto?"



As THE DARKCOIN FOUNDATION INC dumps their insta-mined coins, the golden donkey is running out of gilded turds.

[TanteStefana2]

Ugh, it's ground to a halt at 2 years 35 weeks.  Probably because of increased transactions or something starting around that time.
Thanks

Yer 35 gigabytes is weighty by anyones standards, but you do right to have the full client, its more secure, you can create as many addresses as you want and you won't accidentally hop onto a fork when the chinese coal miners decide to do header first SPV mining to add slightly to their weekly pit bonus

LOL, yah, I'm just thinking of maybe keeping whatever I'm mining on Slushy's pool no matter what, but it'll take me 6 months to get to 0.01 BTC, which is the minimum payout, LOL.  Just wanted to have my wallet ready so I can actually see it there, hard earned BTC, someday!

[TheDasher]

Now that shitBUCKET keeps bringing it up I take great pleasure in responding to this.

darkcoin or however it will be called next year is not a decentralized entity.

Provably a flat out lie.

this currency is lead by a single person.

How is a currency "lead"? The whole sentence doesn't make sense.

darkcoin is like an old conservative company with strong hierarchical comamnd structures and a single person on the top of the pyramid.

So basically exactly like Bitcoin in the beginning until Satoshi disappeared and the system didn't suddenly die.

fuck this i tell you.

Well after all the shit you've been flinging at Dash for no solid reason, I'm compelled to say "Fuck you, too"

darkcoin is not decentralized as it still relies on a single person.

Provably a lie. Dash relies on every user and every Masternode owner.

the core devs were just a bunch of volunteers exploited for the big thing.

Subjective opinion without any real meaning or even the slightest shred of proof. YOU felt exploited for whatever reason and got butthurt that Evan didn't respond to your messages.

the things going on here are fishy, intransparent and rely on a single entity.

You keep repeating the same point over and over again without delivering any evidence.

you are probably investors trying to win a gold donkey. or you are simply trying to exploit every possible vector of profit in the coins space. whatever. you are not here because darkcoin is something it claims to be.

Speak for yourself, you have no idea about people's motives and your judgement does not influence this project in any kind. Neither is it an argument for or against anything, it's just empty word shells.

what if evan duffield suddenly announces he quits the project tomorrow morning?

Switch "Evan Duffield" with "Satoshi Nakamoto" and you have your answer: Jack shit would happen. Development continued business as usual.

I did some digging and realized vertoe is female. Was she in love with Evan and he didn't respond to her advances? Women get wildly emotional over unreciprocated love. Would explain the 30k dump she did earlier this year right before the price exploded: LOL

Regardless: You know what I love? That all the shit Dash gets is 99% identical trash talk Bitcoin received in the early days. In most sentences of retards/critics/trolls you can just replace "Dash" with "Bitcoin" and they're instantly proven wrong by history.

All in all: Eduardo DeScammer failed hard on every level yet again. How's the lawsuit going anyway? Paid back any of your scammed customers, you criminal scumbag?

You guys are so out of touch with reality its incredible.  Yeahhh, ok bud, have another Duff.

[TanteStefana2]

This Peter Wherever argument is really tiresome. Please trolls study the basic rules to create a rational discussion (this is a basic school level learning, please):

List of fallacies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

Argument from authority
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

I don't fuking care if Satoshi himself or the Pope in Rome say Dash is "bad crypto". I want proof of the critical statement and a rational discussion with our devs to decide who is correct.

Everything else is incredibly idiotic.

I know this will be deleted, but I second this ^^^  Know your arguments and don't be suckered in by trolls.

[eduffield]

I've never seen any of this...

op_null: kanzure: in this case, it's fairly obvious that darkcoin built a flawed system where every "masternode" must have an open socket for people to connect to. the realities of a distributed system means there's a financial incentive for people to attack other nodes. which is obviously undesirable.

DOSing other nodes will never pay more than it costs. You have to take down a node for 24 hours to make it miss a payment, that means you would need to dos 1500 nodes for 24 hours to double your revenue from $1 a day, to $2 a day. It doesn't make any sense.

If it ever becomes a problem I've outlined a way to remove the publicly open ports and use a routing system between nodes. It was first described here: https://dashtalk.org/threads/development-update-oct-1-2014.2561/#post-23222

gmaxwell
As far as not around, they've been invited here. But they were only interested in paying me so they could attach my name to their project, not in actual technical discussions. In any case, I also prefer "omg guess what these idiots did" at least be directed to figuring out how to avoid the same mistakes elsewhere.
9:30 pm
(they'd also used my name all over their stuff intially and I had to threaten to go around bad mouthing them to get it removed.)

1: No one on the team has ever offered to pay gmaxwell money, nor extended an invitation to work with him. We merely referenced his work in our paper, before showing how we improved the strategy and made it more anonymous. I'm not sure why he said that, it's simply not true.

2: No one has ever invited me to their channel, but I'll take this as an invitation and start hanging out in there. Maybe that will help, it seems no one except a few people really understand what we're doing and how it works, including them.

[tungfa]

The Dasher , Icebreaker ... come on , we know who they are  !!
what do i see over the last 2 pages, people quoting the trolls !!
we know better than that !!

[toknormal]

Know your arguments and don't be suckered in by trolls.

They generally go a bit berserk whenever this project looks like achieving any of its stated technical objectives and moves itself on a notch in development.

Approaching 3000 masternodes is a pretty significant milestone when way back it looked like 500 was a major achievement.

[TanteStefana2]

Know your arguments and don't be suckered in by trolls.

They generally go a bit berserk whenever this project looks like achieving any of its stated technical objectives and moves itself on a notch in development.

Approaching 3000 masternodes is a pretty significant milestone when way back it looked like 500 was a major achievement.

Agreed!  I wish we had more developers helping out.  I hope the incentive from the proposal system paying developers will increase our work force.  I tried to learn to code, quit after about a week, LOL.  I knew it wasn't for me.  I'm more in the arts direction, and mechanical etc... not language of any sort!