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May 05, 2014, 03:54:49 AM
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Someone please fix Dark-Bot... I miss it ... Wink

Really handy

Awwww, he's broken?  Shoot!

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May 05, 2014, 03:57:11 AM
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Is CoinMine ever coming back?

... or drk.coinmine.pl?

Earlier today, feeleep (sp?) said they're under DDOS attack but that the mining continues unhindered??

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May 05, 2014, 04:16:42 AM
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Mining @ coinmine still works fine, can confirm that. Bit troubling for the front-end to be down for so long but I doubt there's anything to really worry about.
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May 05, 2014, 04:48:12 AM
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Someone please fix Dark-Bot... I miss it ... Wink

Really handy

Dark Bot Is Back!! http://sourceforge.net/projects/darkbot/

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May 05, 2014, 04:58:11 AM
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Is CoinMine ever coming back?

yes - we are still working on some ddos protection to be implemented.

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May 05, 2014, 06:46:38 AM
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Lots of very positive things happening in next two weeks....decided to buy a few more DRK  Wink
What is happening?
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May 05, 2014, 06:52:41 AM
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Lots of very positive things happening in next two weeks....decided to buy a few more DRK  Wink
What is happening?

Masternode payments in the next release May 14th, releasing for community verification then finally open source.

Wired.com is writing an article about Darkcoin....

Sky is the limit for this coin
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May 05, 2014, 07:29:06 AM
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BTW, nice price action going. A single 100 BTC buy wall on Cryptsy. Those are rarely 'real' so manipulation is abound. Grin

110 BTC already. What do you mean by 'Those are rarely real'?

You usually place an order like this when you want to sell a lot of coins (which you acquired earlier at a significantly lower price in relatively small chunks over a relatively long time) and buy only as little as possible (when you accidentally get hit -> it's more like a gamble than an investment).

When you really want to buy 100 BTC worth of coins then you usually set up a bot which buys a lot of small chunks when the price is in your comfort zone (or you might do it manually if you have the time and patiance and you don't trust in bots).

This. And add volume to the game. Volume attracts gamblers, even more if there is a big spread.
So what you can do with crypto so very easy is to mock volume. Just push around your coins on multiple exchanges.
Buy carefull, then pump aggresive, then dump, push the BTC over to another exchange, rinse and repeat.
If you're doing it right you end up with more coins in every round.
Even more, if you are able to short sell your positions.

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May 05, 2014, 07:29:13 AM
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What are masternode payments?

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May 05, 2014, 07:30:54 AM
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Hi Evan,

I think it is a good solution, but it has a couple small drawbacks - I want to make a couple additional proposals to address these issues:

Here are the drawbacks:

1) If John wants to darksend his whole balance of 102 he is granted little anonymity unless addtitional people step up and volunteer inputs of 102 coins. A mechanism to solicit the nodes participating in the pool to submit additional 102 coin inputs might need to be added.  Alternatively (or in addition), nodes could be sent CHANGE of 102 coins to one of their change addresses.  (this idea of sending known receive amounts to various change addresses might be useful in other situtations as well - I will try to think about this a bit more)

I suppose it is possible (in theory) that John could be inputting 102 coins into the pool and sending less, while someone else is inputting say 104 coins, sending 102 and receiving 2 back as change. I still think this is a problem though because extremely strong inferences could be drawn pointing to John as the sender of 102 coins.

2) The problem of large spends exposing the sender is still an issue, denominated change will help create some fog, but VERY strong inferences of who sent what to whom could still be drawn if a "full change block" is spent in a single large spend, for example if Joe sends that 80DRK change block above to coinbase, it could be strongly inferred that he was the sender of 73 coins to mary, and now the feds have his personal info (coinbase).  Although this doesn't prove that Joe sent mary 73 coins, it might be enough evidence to grant a warrant to search Joe's residence.  So I would like to propose a strong countermeasure that will largely solve this problem.

First, in order to prevent "full change blocks" from giving away the sender, I think you should try to build in some logic that tries (if possible) to break these large change blocks up when making subsequent spends. The key here is that you would want to try to break up these denominated "change blocks" into smaller chunks that might match one of the other "change chunks" from that pool.

For example:

 - John adds 102DRK to the pool, sends 101DRK to Lisa and receives back 1DRK as change addresses E=1DRK
 - Joe adds 153DRK to the pool, sends 73DRK to Mary and receives back 80DRK as change addresses F=50DRK, G=10DRK,H=10DRK,I=5DRK,J=5DRK
  -Suzy adds 240DRK to the pool, sends 100DRK to Jane and receives back 140DRK on change addresses K=50DRK, L=50DRK, M=10DRK, N=10DRK, O=10DRK, P=5DRK, Q=5DRK

Later Suzy wants to darksend a different person "Jack" 104 coins

She sends Jack 80 coins (composed of addresses L=50DRK, M=10DRK, N=10DRK, P=5DRK, Q=5DRK) + 24 coins from her wallet that did NOT participate in the above pool.

This would give the appearance of outing Suzy as the person who sent 73DRK to Mary and received 80 back as change.  But as you can see it was actually JOE that made this tranasction! Mary is faking it!

Of course we wouldn't want to tell suzy's wallet to try to make a chunk of 80 because then suzy would know that Joe sent 73 coins to mary, we want suzy's wallet to figure out all of the possible combinations, then just send one random one.

So:  

Suzy's wallet would try to spoof "possible change blocks"of:

102-1 = 1 <- an actual change block!
102-73= 29
102-100 = 2
153-101= 52
153-73 = 80<- an actual change block!
153-100= 53
240-101=139
240-73=167
240-100=140<- an actual change block!

As you can see some of these combos actually match real change blocks, others do not. Suzy doesn't know which do and which do not, she tries to assemble whichever change block she can from the change that she has.

The beauty of this is that suzy is not privy to any information that is NOT already on the blockchain, but she DOES have enough info to spoof ALL of the possible "change blocks"

I think this does a lot to ablate the "dirty change blocks" problem.

In the end I think the "Dark Receive" address idea (addresses composed of many sub-addresses) is a superior solution, but the above does a hell of a lot to ablate the problems that we have been talking about.

Let me know what you think.  Hopefully I didn't mess up the logic in my head   Grin

Hi Simcom,

In spite of my non-formal-tech background, I like your solution VERY MUCH.

However, I couldn't figure out one aspect in the flow.
Can you ELI5 how the sender's wallet can look into past transactions on the blockchain, and determine 'possible change blocks'.

thank you  Smiley
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May 05, 2014, 07:43:26 AM
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Darkcoin Mining Pool Hub

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We are experiencing good block finding stats now!

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May 05, 2014, 08:13:47 AM
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Dark Coin: A valuable new Cryptocurrency with completely anonymous transactions - an article by The Cryptocurrency Times http://www.usacryptocoins.com/thecryptocurrencytimes/uncategorized/dark-coin-a-valuable-new-cryptocurrency-with-completely-anonymous-transactions/

"Dark Coin is a scrypt coin" ?



Article written by teenage foreigner.


edit: oh and darkcoin going crazy again on the markets. Can't wait for the article later today!

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5424980#msg5424980
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May 05, 2014, 08:28:20 AM
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Is CoinMine ever coming back?

yes - we are still working on some ddos protection to be implemented.

feeleep

They stopped ddosing my servers. Website available.

feeleep

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May 05, 2014, 08:50:34 AM
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What do you guys think of http://mining.darkcointalk.org/

Been mining there for almost a week now and still haven't been able to find a block. Maybe some of you could switch over and help out with some HASH Smiley

No fee till May 8th and my gut tells me there should be a block soon...
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May 05, 2014, 08:52:30 AM
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Very soon Coinotron will add DarkCoin. That means that we will not have digging problem anymore Cheesy.
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May 05, 2014, 08:53:13 AM
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P2Pool mining for this coin is in danger! I'm adding an image (below) to make sure people at least try to understand what that means for darkcoin.

What do you guys think of this idea?

 https://darkcointalk.org/threads/masternode-donation-to-p2pool.326/

Masternode donation to p2pool ?


It would be nice if there were an easy way to voluntarily donate, but I don't like the idea of mandatorily require it.

yeah! the idea would be masternode admins choosing to donate, setting a fixed value back to p2pool. Like, say 0.5% of earnings.
That would go back to p2pool network in the same manner as transaction fees.

Too bad p2pool wont work with masternode payouts :-(

Any p2pool/python dev, please help the darkcoin community to maintain p2pool after the hardfork in 10 days.
https://darkcointalk.org/threads/developement-work-for-p2pool-and-nomp-stratum-patch.360/#post-2771

Losing p2pool would mean losing a huge part of decentralization!

I seriously hope someone is working on this!

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I don't think that one is updated yet.  I sure hope the updated version will be made available before May 14th!

Hi TanteStefana,

it is the latest available mandatory update v0.9.2.2 which will enable masternode payments after DarkCoin forks on May 14th. The current publicly available source does not include Darksend however, the Darksend-included Mac Client will be made available at later time.

https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoin/blob/master/src/clientversion.h#L12

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May 05, 2014, 09:30:25 AM
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What do you guys think of http://mining.darkcointalk.org/

Been mining there for almost a week now and still haven't been able to find a block. Maybe some of you could switch over and help out with some HASH Smiley

No fee till May 8th and my gut tells me there should be a block soon...

Ok, I moved my gpu and cpu there to help, but have only about 200kh/s so don't think it'll be much help Cheesy

It's getting hard to mine with low hash rate!  Unfortunately, since everyone's been mining a whole week, I'll have very few shares when a block is found Sad

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May 05, 2014, 09:34:44 AM
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Funny picture for a serious problem!  I too hope this will be resolved well before the 14th!  If I only knew how to code, I'd be doing it, but I don't!  Actually, I'm somewhat surprised there aren't more people with coding skills in crypto currencies.  But then, if my sister is any indication of coders/programmers, they're serious people who don't like to speculate??

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May 05, 2014, 09:35:41 AM
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Why are all Darkcoin related links in the OP and on darkcoin.io dead? I need a Win wallet Smiley

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