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[Minotaur26]

If drk supporters could hold instead of trying to dump to buy cheaper...that would be great. The price would mature much faster.

You can also see it in this light: You have true DRK supporters who plan to hold for the long term but also want to increase their DRK stash... So the situation is getting better really because more coins are then owned by those who have a long-term position and are stronger believers than those who follow pumps & dumps, hopping from coin to coin creating long-term instability.

This is a good point, thank you.

[luke997]

If drk supporters could hold instead of trying to dump to buy cheaper...that would be great. The price would mature much faster.

You can also see it in this light: You have true DRK supporters who plan to hold for the long term but also want to increase their DRK stash... So the situation is getting better really because more coins are then owned by those who have a long-term position and are stronger believers than those who follow pumps & dumps, hopping from coin to coin creating long-term instability.

Remember though that the coins dumped at the peaks usually are bought by amateurs, driven by panic, who are as likely to panic sell short time later.
When the price is stable they are likely to get more interest in the investment and become serious about it.

In the world of greed, think about others, it pays off  

EDIT: Also, usually those able to successfully short, are the smart ones holding a lot already, so restraining will work a long way toward distribution too.

[luke997]

Very interesting comment for the Wired article:

http://www.wired.com/2014/05/bitcoin-anonymous-projects/#comment-1370374329

You forgot to mention that Zerocoin is using totally unvetted cryptography and is being funded (in part) by the US Government (edit: "Acknowledgements ... The research in this paper was supported in part by the Office of Naval Research under contract N00014-11-1-0470, and DARPA and the Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) under contract FA8750-11-2-0211. http://spar.isi.jhu.edu/~mgree..." ). Also, if their cryptography is ever broken, the entire blockchain history is made visible (not that the government would bother to tell anyone that they've broken it).

Tor is thought to be compromised by several intelligence and law
enforcement agencies. The extent to which its compromised is not known http://lifehacker.com/how-can-.... At bare minimum, Tor is under heavy attack from NSA and GCHQ and there have been limited inroads to compromise made by those agencies. This will only get worse. http://www.theguardian.com/wor...

Dark Wallet and Sharecoin have a centralized mixing models, where it's necessary to trust that the people to whom you're sending your money for mixing aren't snooping, that they won't just outright steal your money, and that their centralized (read: honeypot) service has not been compromised by intelligence or law enforcement. No thanks.

Darkcoin is the only viable candidate for decent anonymity and security on this list. Thoroughly vetted cryptography, no centralization, no requisite trust of any central service to not be a bad actor or compromised (a la Dark Wallet and Sharecoin), if the crypto is ever broken the blockchain is still a total fog - oh and the Masternode network will host a private I2P array to anonymize IP addresses (no gambling with Tor).

[drkman]

Doge has their own nascar now fuuu.
Guys we need to sponsor something big

Doge's Nascar race did nothing to help the price..
If you want to advertising in that category(expensive), then having billboards for Darkcoin in Times Square would be great.

That looks perfect, especially since most people use phones and/or google, that should gauge their interest to find out what Darkcoin is after seeing that billboard. NYC alone has 9million people, with Manhattan/Times Square being the busiest area.

A ton of tourists mostly. As well as the people who work in the area. Also a ton of theater goers.  If you live in New York, you tend to stay far away from times square. (Disclaimer: Long time resident) Most immediate impact would be the media hoping all over it. This sort of happened with this Venmo ad they had running in the subway. It was a picture of a guy with VENMO and a small blurb.

It turned into a miserable fail, however, the media was all over it. The media also jumped all over the joey harrington ad in times square(former football player promoted by Oregon? for the Heisman trophy). I think this is the most logical next step, get the media horny.
(Disclosure: I

Even those ads in the train stations could work, millions of new yorkers,tourists, etc ride the trains everyday.

If we do it right. Venmo took those ads down as it did nothing for them or their brand. People were actually negatively affected by the ads. I agree that if we do get ads in the subway, millions would be reached, but it has to be done correctly. That is far beyond my scope. Beyond just people, the media can be a huge driving force. Think of all the reported 'viral marketing stories' that get reported. Staten Island creepy clown. Nathan for you and the starbucks stunt or the animal park one. Baby satan rolling around nyc, or even the fake murder in an elevator. While reaching people is awesome, if the media jumps on, it gets supercharged.

What would be ideal is if we could get CNBC talking about Darkcoin.  Even if it was just some joe behind the fastmoney team on the street with a large Darkcoin posterboard saying "DARKCOIN, send money to anyone in the world, instantly and privately."  Or "Screw Paypal!  Only Darkcoin can send money anywhere safely and privately, for free!"

[drkman]

Maybe the entire theme behind a media push could be "Screw Paypal!"  Just like a meme and we get it to take off.  That is one of the greatest benefits of virtual currencies by the way.  The power and ease in which you can send money internationally to anyone anywhere without fees.....and if you use Darkcoin to do it....with full privacy.

[CoinHeavy]

I can't find any reference to the source code yet.

Is DarkCoin still closed source even as this thread approaches 1,000 pages?

If so, this is problematic for adoption and integration.  I'm working on a number of projects and having to trust binaries means that darkcoin simply won't be included in just about all of them.

Anyone heard of an ETA on the release of source?  Thanks.

[droptable]

dark wallet not connecting anybody else having trouble

Hello, this is Darkcoin.
Using DarkSend.

Dark wallet is different circus, different Monkey.

[chaeplin]

I can't find any reference to the source code yet.

Is DarkCoin still closed source even as this thread approaches 1,000 pages?

If so, this is problematic for adoption and integration.  I'm working on a number of projects and having to trust binaries means that darkcoin simply won't be included in just about all of them.

Anyone heard of an ETA on the release of source?  Thanks.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg6488297#msg6488297

Here's the new schedule for development:

- RC2 (masternode payments, DGW3) : May 14th
- RC3 (1000 DRK limit and denominated change) : May 21st
- After this, I'll find someone to vet the code and open source.
- RC4 (Bugs, security issues)
- Testing, then opensource

[darkproton]

Doge has their own nascar now fuuu.
Guys we need to sponsor something big

Doge's Nascar race did nothing to help the price..
If you want to advertising in that category(expensive), then having billboards for Darkcoin in Times Square would be great.

That looks perfect, especially since most people use phones and/or google, that should gauge their interest to find out what Darkcoin is after seeing that billboard. NYC alone has 9million people, with Manhattan/Times Square being the busiest area.

A ton of tourists mostly. As well as the people who work in the area. Also a ton of theater goers.  If you live in New York, you tend to stay far away from times square. (Disclaimer: Long time resident) Most immediate impact would be the media hoping all over it. This sort of happened with this Venmo ad they had running in the subway. It was a picture of a guy with VENMO and a small blurb.

It turned into a miserable fail, however, the media was all over it. The media also jumped all over the joey harrington ad in times square(former football player promoted by Oregon? for the Heisman trophy). I think this is the most logical next step, get the media horny.
(Disclosure: I

Even those ads in the train stations could work, millions of new yorkers,tourists, etc ride the trains everyday.

If we do it right. Venmo took those ads down as it did nothing for them or their brand. People were actually negatively affected by the ads. I agree that if we do get ads in the subway, millions would be reached, but it has to be done correctly. That is far beyond my scope. Beyond just people, the media can be a huge driving force. Think of all the reported 'viral marketing stories' that get reported. Staten Island creepy clown. Nathan for you and the starbucks stunt or the animal park one. Baby satan rolling around nyc, or even the fake murder in an elevator. While reaching people is awesome, if the media jumps on, it gets supercharged.

What would be ideal is if we could get CNBC talking about Darkcoin.  Even if it was just some joe behind the fastmoney team on the street with a large Darkcoin posterboard saying "DARKCOIN, send money to anyone in the world, instantly and privately."  Or "Screw Paypal!  Only Darkcoin can send money anywhere safely and privately, for free!"

Yes! Great idea. To throw something out there as well, perhaps western union also would be a good target. There are a lot of people who wire money around the world at a huge premium. Screw paypal is awesome. I use paypal and all the fees to explain bitcoin and darkcoin to people who want the short and curlies on the matter.

[InternetApe]

dark wallet not connecting anybody else having trouble

Darkcoin is in no way related to "Dark Wallet".

[eltito]

I'll go ahead and re-post my submission, now re-purposed for the NYC Subway campaign.  I won't even demand royalties for using my likeness.

Ladies...

[CoinHeavy]

I can't find any reference to the source code yet.

Is DarkCoin still closed source even as this thread approaches 1,000 pages?

If so, this is problematic for adoption and integration.  I'm working on a number of projects and having to trust binaries means that darkcoin simply won't be included in just about all of them.

Anyone heard of an ETA on the release of source?  Thanks.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg6488297#msg6488297

Here's the new schedule for development:

- RC2 (masternode payments, DGW3) : May 14th
- RC3 (1000 DRK limit and denominated change) : May 21st
- After this, I'll find someone to vet the code and open source.
- RC4 (Bugs, security issues)
- Testing, then opensource

Cool, thanks chaeplin.  Hopefully end of month or so then it seems.

[GhostPlayer]

While sniffing around, I see that the blackcoin multipool (pays out in blackcoin) can now mine X11 coins.

I'm pretty sure that they won't be mining darkcoin with it's high difficulty, but for those of us who want to mine x11 rather than scrypt, it could be an option to use that, then sell the blackcoin for drk?  I can't find any stats or metrics for the x11 mutlipool, so I'm not sure if it would be a more profitable way to get drk than mining directly..

http://blackcoinpool.com/

 Thou shall hold out for secret project "Dark Ice"

[Queeq]

I can't find any reference to the source code yet.

Is DarkCoin still closed source even as this thread approaches 1,000 pages?

If so, this is problematic for adoption and integration.  I'm working on a number of projects and having to trust binaries means that darkcoin simply won't be included in just about all of them.

Anyone heard of an ETA on the release of source?  Thanks.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg6488297#msg6488297

Here's the new schedule for development:

- RC2 (masternode payments, DGW3) : May 14th
- RC3 (1000 DRK limit and denominated change) : May 21st
- After this, I'll find someone to vet the code and open source.
- RC4 (Bugs, security issues)
- Testing, then opensource

Cool, thanks chaeplin.  Hopefully end of month or so then it seems.

Actually, Darkcoin itself is opensourced. For now DarkSend implementation is closed.

[GhostPlayer]

I'll go ahead and re-post my submission, now re-purposed for the NYC Subway campaign.  I won't even demand royalties for using my likeness.

Ladies...

 HAHAHAHA...  (small puke)... !

 *cof cof cof*


 Hahah!

[solo20]

who made the darkcoin wallet ?

[AlexGR]

who made the darkcoin wallet ?

darkcoin wallet = the wallet of darkcoin

dark wallet = a web-based bitcoin mixer that is unrelated to darkcoin

If you have sync issues with darkcoin wallet, dowload the latest darkcoin wallet.

[rickraw]

I have a question about using the DarkCoin wallet. Say I send my coins to my wallet (DarkCoin qt (latest version v0.10.6.3-unk-beta)) on my home PC.  I then encrypt the wallet.  Can I just make copies of wallet.dat and put them on my USB sticks, other computers, etc.?  Then will any one of the wallet.dat files be able to get me back to my wallet (using any of the upcoming DarkCoin qt wallet releases)?

[drkman]

What would be ideal is if we could get CNBC talking about Darkcoin.  Even if it was just some joe behind the fastmoney team on the street with a large Darkcoin posterboard saying "DARKCOIN, send money to anyone in the world, instantly and privately."  Or "Screw Paypal!  Only Darkcoin can send money anywhere safely and privately, for free!"

Yes! Great idea. To throw something out there as well, perhaps western union also would be a good target. There are a lot of people who wire money around the world at a huge premium. Screw paypal is awesome. I use paypal and all the fees to explain bitcoin and darkcoin to people who want the short and curlies on the matter.

Yep, the Mexican and central American communities get robbed daily by Western Union which charges massive fees just to send money to their families in Mexico.  The entire theme would be "SCREW WESTERN UNION!  Manda Dinero a tu familia usando Darkcoin para gratis!"

[splawik21]

I have a question about using the DarkCoin wallet. Say I send my coins to my wallet (DarkCoin qt (latest version v0.10.6.3-unk-beta)) on my home PC.  I then encrypt the wallet.  Can I just make copies of wallet.dat and put them on my USB sticks, other computers, etc.?  Then will any one of the wallet.dat files be able to get me back to my wallet (using any of the upcoming DarkCoin qt wallet releases)?

yes