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July 12, 2014, 02:08:54 PM
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Please stop quoting shojoy the kid is a joke
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July 12, 2014, 02:10:12 PM
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Please repost ! (as long as it takes) ….>>



Are you serious?  Did you even stop and think about what you were doing before you made this post?  A picture of a terrorist with a gun?  Really?  Do you think this is funny?  You ass wipes have been threatening people and now you post this shit?   I have buddies that died on foreign soil fighting scumbag terrorists like this guy.  You make me sick.  

First a cop now a terrorist.  Well we finally see what the Darkcoin community is all about.  Your true colors are in full display.

I'm going to mine on the non-compliant pools and feel good about not letting you extortionists steal 20% of my mining proceeds.  Then I'm going to sell it and use the proceeds to buy cryptonote coins that offer anonymity without this bullshit masternode network that taxes the poor and gives to the rich.

Some guy posted some pages back about making 1 btc a week running his masternodes.  How many miners even get a fraction of 1 btc a week mining darkcoin?  Yet these same miners are now being forced to give up 20% of what they mine so some guy with 50,000 DRK can make a btc a week while they likely don't even break even.  This entire masternode tax is nothing more than a scheme that allows the rich to get richer while the miners get screwed.  And don't give me that argument about the price increasing and it will help the miners.  Guys are making btc running masternodes and the price of Darkcoin keeps going down.  What a joke.  

I would have left this thread alone but when some jackass posts a picture of a terrorist  with the words "Do it now or we have to come over there" there is no way I'm going to just sit back.  I saw the rubble of the Twin Towers in Manhattan a month after they came over here.  


Anyone wanting to boycott the 20% tax taken from the poor and given to the rich please use the following pools listed below.



Last EDIT: July 12th

These are the major pools that pay 20% more DRK

nicehash.com
ghash.io
x11.ltc1btc.com
darkcoin.cryptocurrency.tw
dark.hashrate.eu
dark.v2.dedicatedpool.com


terrorist ?
really, are you that remote from the real world ?
WTF is wrong with you,
buy an airplane ticket one day and see what else is out there there than "your sick mind " !!!!
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July 12, 2014, 02:22:54 PM
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Tungfa, I also want MN payments in place but please stop posting stupid pics with people with guns, thanks
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July 12, 2014, 02:23:44 PM
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The girl with the tattoo is back with an important message:



PS:Thanks to everyone who donated.

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July 12, 2014, 02:32:19 PM
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I would purchase this excellent exercise dvd. (But only with inflatable comedy guvpaper. And, if it was really cheap.)
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July 12, 2014, 02:34:36 PM
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If I am not mistaken it's the intro of an xxx movie, but yeah, ... Grin
maybe we can get the adult industry to accept darkcoin?

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July 12, 2014, 02:40:26 PM
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If I am not mistaken it's the intro of an xxx movie, but yeah, ... Grin
maybe we can get the adult industry to accept darkcoin?

That's why VHS beat Betamax and Blu-ray beat HDDVDHDADD or whatever it was called. Porn is a pretty big market.
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July 12, 2014, 02:41:12 PM
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Please repost ! (as long as it takes) ….>>

[picture of man pointing gun]
Please don't!

It’s doubtful that the Tuareg in the image is what Shojayxt claims, I suspect he’s just making dodgy assumptions. Even so, posting this was dumb, because it’s a gift to our defamers. Professional manipulators like darkota have already been banging on over and over again in the alt threads that DRK can never go mainstream because they say the name will associate us with darkweb, drugs, criminals & terrorists. Shojayxt is now posting in the DRKFUD threads that we’re threatening pool operators with pictures of terrorists, and other trolls will probably follow.

People reaching out to pools, please be nice. If you feel you cannot represent Darkcoin in proper light, then take a step back and ask for others to do it.

^^^This!

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July 12, 2014, 02:45:17 PM
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While looking at the DRK tattoo on my girlfriends ass, I had an ephiny.

With the Master Nodes taking care of the anonymous transactions and having capacity to do other things, why not do snapchat type messaging for android running off the same Master Node infrastructure.

That way you could do anonymous transactions, with discussions that include pictures, video etc.

Q. What's it look like?

A. Wait a minute, I'll send you a few pictures.

Q. How much?

A. 500DRK each one. Available next week. Click to buy now and I'll give you 10% discount.

Q. Great. Click; buy. Bye.

I was surprised when Evan said RC4 was the final anonymity solution for DRK with no mention of I2P. The mastenodes would still need I2P or something like it for distributed private comms.

edit: or the clients. But ideally encyption on all ends.

edit2: an in-wallet IRC type thing that included video streaming, using MN infrastructure, encrypted, with  fees based on MN bandwidth used...?

edit3: use a system similar to masternodeprivkey to sign blocks/hashes so that miners get private comms credits, thus incentivising miners and encouraging hash decentralisation?

It needs to be for android and IOS, that way Google or Facebook will offer $50bn.

Ok, so I guess we need a word from Evan if he thinks this sounds feasible/doable and get a bounty for developers to get it done (as I suspect current DRK team has enough on their hands already). No reason to waste time unless parallel development is impossible imo.
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July 12, 2014, 02:48:53 PM
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While looking at the DRK tattoo on my girlfriends ass, I had an ephiny.

With the Master Nodes taking care of the anonymous transactions and having capacity to do other things, why not do snapchat type messaging for android running off the same Master Node infrastructure.

That way you could do anonymous transactions, with discussions that include pictures, video etc.

Q. What's it look like?

A. Wait a minute, I'll send you a few pictures.

Q. How much?

A. 500DRK each one. Available next week. Click to buy now and I'll give you 10% discount.

Q. Great. Click; buy. Bye.

I was surprised when Evan said RC4 was the final anonymity solution for DRK with no mention of I2P. The mastenodes would still need I2P or something like it for distributed private comms.

edit: or the clients. But ideally encyption on all ends.

edit2: an in-wallet IRC type thing that included video streaming, using MN infrastructure, encrypted, with  fees based on MN bandwidth used...?

edit3: use a system similar to masternodeprivkey to sign blocks/hashes so that miners get private comms credits, thus incentivising miners and encouraging hash decentralisation?

It needs to be for android and IOS, that way Google or Facebook will offer $50bn.

Ok, so I guess we need a word from Evan if he thinks this sounds feasible/doable and get a bounty for developers to get it done (as I suspect current DRK team has enough on their hands already). No reason to waste time unless parallel development is impossible imo.

I think a masternode API for 3rd parties to utilise masternodes for whatever they wanted would create a booming ecosystem - charge for usage based on cpu/bandwidth use or whatever, obviously MN resources prioritised in some way to maintain core funtionality.

We will probably have a better idea of just how much horsepower a MN needs when RC4 hits and Darksend+'ing kicks in bigtime.
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July 12, 2014, 03:07:58 PM
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Heh... here's to hoping the hold-out pools never update!

Centralized anonymizing nodes... it still cracks me up.
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July 12, 2014, 03:13:23 PM
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damn that shojayxt is shortsighted and overreacts fast. Putting him on my ignorelist because he answers every definition
of a troll these days.

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July 12, 2014, 03:13:50 PM
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who can tell me the price now。。。

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July 12, 2014, 03:17:39 PM
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who can tell me the price now。。。

0.01032001

and yes, thats a very good price to buy

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July 12, 2014, 03:42:45 PM
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Well, I know how to take a company onto the NASDAQ, I even have much of the paperwork.

All we need is a way to decouple MNs from the network, without decoupling the MNs from the network.

If there was a way for MNs to pass through their earnings to an LLC, without being put at risk of removing the decentralisation aspect, then we could start the process of creating a public offering and giving MN owners stock.

That doesn't need anyone or anything other than MN owners saying they would be happy to sign up to an LLC.

Explain for ding dongs like myself, what the advantage would be?  I'm at a loss, LOL.  Ok, I see the idea, but not sure it would work as you'd have to get all the MN owners to climb aboard??

And if you're offended by a photo (I don't like it either), please don't quote it, that's stupid!  It makes the situation worse!

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July 12, 2014, 03:54:09 PM
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FUD
Who cares if they don't update? With RC4, all non paying blocks will be rejected. So pay or don't get any coins when you mine.
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Well, I know how to take a company onto the NASDAQ, I even have much of the paperwork.

All we need is a way to decouple MNs from the network, without decoupling the MNs from the network.

If there was a way for MNs to pass through their earnings to an LLC, without being put at risk of removing the decentralisation aspect, then we could start the process of creating a public offering and giving MN owners stock.

That doesn't need anyone or anything other than MN owners saying they would be happy to sign up to an LLC.

Explain for ding dongs like myself, what the advantage would be?  I'm at a loss, LOL

Well, where to start.

1. Putting MN payments into a company means that a single company receives income. That is a centralisation, which means the police can go to one place and shutdown the network. Not ideal.

So, you need to decouple the MNs from their income, so that the income can go into the company, without risking the decentralisation aspect.

2. Why would you do that? Lets use an example.

If you buy a residential property and lease it out, you earn rent, right? Ok. Now, if you want to sell your rental property, you would ask a factor of the annual income the rental property generates.

Lets say you earn $10,000 per year from a rental property. If you were to sell it, you would ask, say, 15 x $10,000 = $150,000. Someone is buying the income that the rental property generates, and then they take a risk if the value goes up anyway and also a risk on the costs of owning the property. From this they get their yield, usually something like 3%-7% when compared to just leaving the money in the bank and earning 1% interest on deposit.

Its the same principle from a company. If you sell it, someone is buying the profit potential over a number of years - the yield, plus any other growth they can make happen. You are happy to sell because you get the same value you would have gotten over x number of years, but all upfront.

So, if you put MN payments into a company, the company earns money, which you can now apply a multiplying factor against and sell the company or part of the company based on the earning potential of the MNs over x number of years.

If you had 10 MNs and they earned $10,000 per year, you could ask, say, upfront $50k, plus the cost of the 10 MNs - assuming MNs are hard to get, and or hard to run, and or hard to invest in - the reason why some funds are looking to buy Bitcoins through a stock traded trust winklevoss trust launching soon.

3. Now, if you had 2,000 MNs in a company that generated $1,000 x 2,000 = $2,000,000 each year, you could package up the company for an IPO and sell a bunch of shares on the stock exchange at a rate of say 10x$2m = $20m, plus the value of the MNs, say $13m: total enterprise value of $33m (ops)

That's a pretty decent sized stock listed company.

What that means is that you would get shares in a stock listed company at a rate of $150m divided by the MNs you have which converts to a number of stocks.

edit - you effectively give up the income from the MNs, but instead you get stocks in the company. If you didn't sell your stocks, you would still get the payments from the MNs, but they would go via the company first (look up REITs).

Because it becomes a stock listed company, the value of the company could be a multiple of 10, 15, 20, 50 or 100 depending on the future prospects of the MNs and what other services they could offer to generate additional profit.

You could see a MN worth $10k, $100k, $1m or $10m

Just think, Facebook paid $19bn for an App, Whats-App, that had hardly any profit, but lots of users.

Edit - None of this is easy or without huge complications, but look at the potential:

DRK would have lots of profit and lots of users. So your 1MN could be worth $10m each if we developed some messaging systems like snapchat, that had a payment tool using eCash. Grin


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July 12, 2014, 04:12:35 PM
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Are you serious?  Did you even stop and think about what you were doing before you made this post?  A picture of a terrorist with a gun?  Really?  Do you think this is funny?  You ass wipes have been threatening people and now you post this shit?   I have buddies that died on foreign soil fighting scumbag terrorists like this guy.  You make me sick.  

First a cop now a terrorist.  Well we finally see what the Darkcoin community is all about.  Your true colors are in full display.

I'm going to mine on the non-compliant pools and feel good about not letting you extortionists steal 20% of my mining proceeds.  Then I'm going to sell it and use the proceeds to buy cryptonote coins that offer anonymity without this bullshit masternode network that taxes the poor and gives to the rich.

Some guy posted some pages back about making 1 btc a week running his masternodes.  How many miners even get a fraction of 1 btc a week mining darkcoin?  Yet these same miners are now being forced to give up 20% of what they mine so some guy with 50,000 DRK can make a btc a week while they likely don't even break even.  This entire masternode tax is nothing more than a scheme that allows the rich to get richer while the miners get screwed.  And don't give me that argument about the price increasing and it will help the miners.  Guys are making btc running masternodes and the price of Darkcoin keeps going down.  What a joke.  

I would have left this thread alone but when some jackass posts a picture of a terrorist  with the words "Do it now or we have to come over there" there is no way I'm going to just sit back.  I saw the rubble of the Twin Towers in Manhattan a month after they came over here.  

I totally agree with you on the picture, pools, and especially masternodes.  DRK is becoming a coin by, for, and about the MN holders.

Threatening pools and posting pictures of terrorists/freedom fighters/whatever is way out of line and totally unprofessional.  If I were running a pool that would just make me want to give you the finger and keep on doing it.  Not the way to win them over.  OTOH I don't see why any pool would voluntarily give up 20% until the [vague, unannounced] cutover date when they have to.
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July 12, 2014, 04:19:09 PM
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Without Master Nodes, there is no Darkcoin.

Research, then post.

You go straight to ignore for now because you are clearly trying to spread FUD and troll.
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July 12, 2014, 04:21:42 PM
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What does the community think about starting a self moderated thread? I think trolling has gone overboard. I mean there will be one troll post, but the frustrating thing is the 10 replies that follow it. Maybe eltito and community can think along those lines.

Also people seem to respect

1)Self moderated topics.
2)PoW mining phases that end in 7 days and or abruptly whenever multipools threaten them.

No one complains about 1) and 2). They come to Darkcoin thread to vent their frustration and push forum members to their limits. Sad, but that is how it seems to work in altcoin section.
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