tungfa
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July 17, 2014, 10:36:46 AM |
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well done ! am putting some in too ….> |
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GhostPlayer
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July 17, 2014, 10:39:38 AM |
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Shouldn't a cap be set? I mean, there is an obvious conflict of interest here...  |
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tungfa
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July 17, 2014, 10:39:46 AM |
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JGCMiner
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July 17, 2014, 10:59:50 AM |
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Shouldn't a cap be set? I mean, there is an obvious conflict of interest here... Maybe, but it would need to come from Kristov himself rather than people just randomly stopping donations. For the community to decide the cap we would need to know how many hours he is going to spent going over the code, how much he would be paid per hour for similar actively by other entities, whether or not he is just reviewing or will be providing snippets of improved code, etc. Plus if you read the reddit it seems like this not the first time that he has used this model and I have not heard anybody calling him out on his integrity. |
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GhostPlayer
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July 17, 2014, 11:03:51 AM |
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Shouldn't a cap be set? I mean, there is an obvious conflict of interest here... Maybe, but it would need to come from Kristov himself rather than people just randomly stopping donations. For the community to decide the cap we would need to know how many hours he is going to spent going over the code, how much he would be paid per hour for similar actively by other entities, whether or not he is just reviewing or will be providing snippets of improved code, etc. Plus if you read the reddit it seems like this not the first time that he has used this model and I have not heard anybody calling him out on his integrity. I happily donated! Just saying, for extra transparency. I'm VERY happy he's doing it, plus he did say that even without donations he's eventually have a look at it. This is a fair freelancing prioritisation of projects! |
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illodin
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July 17, 2014, 11:07:02 AM |
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Shouldn't a cap be set? I mean, there is an obvious conflict of interest here... Maybe, but it would need to come from Kristov himself rather than people just randomly stopping donations. For the community to decide the cap we would need to know how many hours he is going to spent going over the code, how much he would be paid per hour for similar actively by other entities, whether or not he is just reviewing or will be providing snippets of improved code, etc. Plus if you read the reddit it seems like this not the first time that he has used this model and I have not heard anybody calling him out on his integrity. If he finds issues with the code or design, and provides suggestions or even code to fix them, then he would deserve another round of donations imo. |
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twinflame
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July 17, 2014, 11:09:18 AM |
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A code review should be unbiased and independent and now drk is being donated to review code? It's like the drug company creating a drug and asking the FDA to approve it by providing some cash to them. Independent code review goes out the window as soon as you donate drk to review code. Because that is what the outside world will see and they will jump on it for the review not being balanced because money and/or drk was donated to have it reviewed. I suggest that the drk that's donated is converted into $ first and then he's paid in $. You can't turn this donation back now. Think, people..! |
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Kai Proctor
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July 17, 2014, 11:09:27 AM |
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Nice wallet.  If I may, can't we suggest to put all market information on another tab separately from the main information tab? I personally think it doesn't not give the right message to tie up DRK in such obvious and visible manner to USD (or BTC). It should demoted as 2nd tier information in a specific tab. But this is just my opinion Edit: plus it is overwhelming for a peon to see so many numbers and figures on the front page Yes it should be keep as simple as possible. Maybe there could be an option to show it on the main tab, with it disabled by default? +1 and the value of wallet in other currencies (Euro ...). Also, the term "wallet liquid value" bothers me, it can imply that DRK is not liquid. |
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boon8
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July 17, 2014, 11:10:14 AM |
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how about the new features?anythine new?
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July 17, 2014, 11:10:48 AM |
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DRK must be the most undervalued cryptocurrency in the universe..
What the hell is people waiting for ?
Retards will always be retards. It is like holding worthless Litecoins.
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thelonecrouton
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July 17, 2014, 11:16:37 AM |
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Kristov: 140
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What other people do with their money is none of my business, but Kristov Atlas donations outstripping the SW dev fund in under 24hrs seems a bit, uh, weird. For 190DRK or whatever it's up to now I'd want a joint audit by Norbert Wiener and Richard Feynman. |
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splawik21
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DASH is the future of crypto payments!
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July 17, 2014, 11:18:50 AM |
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I`ve send them info on facebook.... they have replayed  2 to go  |
BE SMART, USE DASH ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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Nightz
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July 17, 2014, 11:19:48 AM |
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Kristov: 140
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What other people do with their money is none of my business, but Kristov Atlas donations outstripping the SW dev fund in under 24hrs seems a bit, uh, weird. For 190DRK or whatever it's up to now I'd want a joint audit by Norbert Wiener and Richard Feynman.  . agree with you on that. joint audit may just be needed |
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JGCMiner
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July 17, 2014, 11:22:13 AM |
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Shouldn't a cap be set? I mean, there is an obvious conflict of interest here... Maybe, but it would need to come from Kristov himself rather than people just randomly stopping donations. For the community to decide the cap we would need to know how many hours he is going to spent going over the code, how much he would be paid per hour for similar actively by other entities, whether or not he is just reviewing or will be providing snippets of improved code, etc. Plus if you read the reddit it seems like this not the first time that he has used this model and I have not heard anybody calling him out on his integrity. If he finds issues with the code or design, and provides suggestions or even code to fix them, then he would deserve another round of donations imo. Don't disagree. In fact, to put things another way for anybody that has fears of the the donations being seen as bribery. This might have actually been a concern if Darksend was going to forever remain closed-source and the marketing was going to be based on "well it is closed-source but Kristov Atlas said it was OK". However that is NOT the case. Darksend will be open-sourced. And if (and I don't believe for one second he would do this) he purposely gave a false endorsement so that his donations would increase in value -- then as soon as the code was open-sourced the coin would fall flat as anybody would be able to see any and all warts. The reason to donate is so that he feels motivated to spend a lot of time on the code looking for any and all bugs, suggesting new code, etc, -- so that when it is open-sourced we don't have a bunch of day 1 exploits, hacks, or other disasters. The donations are for his valuable time. And the more of it he spends on the code the better for all parties involved with Darkcoin. Kristov: 140
SW Devel : 163
What other people do with their money is none of my business, but Kristov Atlas donations outstripping the SW dev fund in under 24hrs seems a bit, uh, weird. For 190DRK or whatever it's up to now I'd want a joint audit by Norbert Wiener and Richard Feynman. What is the "SW dev"? Something for Evan? If so, then it is likely the case that people are donating based on the fact that he has some number of coins (may or may not be a lot) already somewhere secure. |
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Lauda
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July 17, 2014, 11:25:28 AM |
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DRK must be the most undervalued cryptocurrency in the universe..
What the hell is people waiting for ?
Retards will always be retards. It is like holding worthless Litecoins.
Holding Bitcoin is fine, but many others hold altcoins which are useless and try to hype them. I'm not sure why they are doing this, only for self profiting? It's obvious that such altcoins don't have a future, unlike DRK which clearly has. |
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July 17, 2014, 11:30:29 AM
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DRK must be the most undervalued cryptocurrency in the universe..
What the hell is people waiting for ?
Retards will always be retards. It is like holding worthless Litecoins.
We already have one whale actively buying up the sellorders on Mintpal, pressing the trend reversal through on MACD into the first green candle (see https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/mintpal/drkbtc set on 1d) and raising the price from 0.009 to 0.012 (its falling down now a bit to 0.011) If the trend continues upwards as the orderbook on Mintpal seems to indicate ( https://www.cryptocoincharts.info/orderbook.php?pair=drk-btc&market=mintpal) then that could attract more whales jumping in at one point. When that point arrivés is anyone's guess, other whales / investors could be holding off big investments until RC4 has come out and DarkSend+ code has been reviewed by third parties. I do believe we will see a slow rise upwards untill RC4 comes out in two / four weeks afterwhich hopefully it will explode upwards... |
Learn from the past, set detailed and vivid goals for the future and live in the only moment of time over which you have any control : now
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July 17, 2014, 11:30:45 AM |
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Lets think about this.
Darksend/Darkcoin is going to be open sourced eventually anyway.
If Kristov lied about the code because he received $2000 in donations, the code will be released and Kristovs rep goes down the tube.
Come on... This isn't going to happen.
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Ignition75
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July 17, 2014, 11:31:07 AM |
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Shouldn't a cap be set? I mean, there is an obvious conflict of interest here... Maybe, but it would need to come from Kristov himself rather than people just randomly stopping donations. For the community to decide the cap we would need to know how many hours he is going to spent going over the code, how much he would be paid per hour for similar actively by other entities, whether or not he is just reviewing or will be providing snippets of improved code, etc. Plus if you read the reddit it seems like this not the first time that he has used this model and I have not heard anybody calling him out on his integrity. If he finds issues with the code or design, and provides suggestions or even code to fix them, then he would deserve another round of donations imo. Don't disagree. In fact, to put things another way for anybody that has fears of the the donations being seen as bribery. This might have actually been a concern if Darksend was going to forever remain closed-source and the marketing was going to be based on "well it is closed-source but Kristov Atlas said it was OK". However that is NOT the case. Darksend will be open-sourced. And if (and I don't believe for one second he would do this) he purposely gave a false endorsement so that his donations would increase in value -- then as soon as the code was open-sourced the coin would fall flat as anybody would be able to see any and all warts. The reason to donate is so that he feels motivated to spend a lot of time on the code looking for any and all bugs, suggesting new code, etc, -- so that when it is open-sourced we don't have a bunch of day 1 exploits, hacks, or other disasters. The donations are for his valuable time. And the more of it he spends on the code the better for all parties involved with Darkcoin. Exactly... For something as important as a code review you don't want someone to rush it or feel like their time is not appreciated... For this exercise we need to not act like little kids playing with funny internet money thinking 10 DRK is making someone hella rich. 200 DRK is about the daily rate for a top shelf technical resource, in the real world it's peanuts... We thank Kristov for his time and dig deep to ensure he feels appreciated. This is not a bribe, this is acting professional and paying someone for their time... |
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CripLib
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July 17, 2014, 11:39:35 AM |
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I am very pleased to inform that DyslexicZombei's Darkcoin Community MasterNode Services are, more than ever, growing to be a wonderful community, and that we will do our best for the benefit of the Darkcoin Community. DZ was in a family trip, and now he is already back. Thanking you again for your support, I remain always at your disposal. Lib DZ, I am so happy that you are here. Actually I am very proud for you and for our community, at the same time that I am so ashamed and sorry for my recent lack of trust of you.
Communication can be (and is) very crucial to a community. Please receive my recent criticism with this in mind, understand that it is meant to be constructive criticism, and that I am here at your disposal, and at the disposal of this community and of the Darkcoin community as a whole, to help in whatever I can be useful.
As wisely said before, let's take these last incidents as a wake up call for us all, as a community (including here the Darkcoin Community) to make our best for the improvement of your service, that IS very important to Darkcoin development as a whole.
I wish you (and, of course, all of us) all the success. I already know that you are doing your best, and once more I put myself available for anything needed.
Thank you DZ, thank you all.
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JGCMiner
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July 17, 2014, 11:47:30 AM |
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Title/OP still not updated so... BUMP! This is the latest news and the likely reason for the price rise. Summary (check link for details):-Details of RC4's main feature, Darksend+, have been finalized and released. Over 99% anonymous based on the percentage chance of being exposed by a bad actor. -RC4 code nearly finished and entering testing in the next few days. -Code review by Kristov Atlas will soon begin. |
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