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[tombtc]

The CEO of internet had just decided to give Terzo read only permission. He can no longer write anything.

Code:

chmod 444 Terzo

[coins101]

One by one this trickle down in price is taking each of us out... DRK is no longer my core holding.
XCP-CounterParty has replaced DRK for me. Almost one month later now, the Overstock.com news for XCP is simply not being portrayed in price, IMO. I don't think the crypto nor investment worlds realize how big a thing it is to have a 1/2 billion dollar company legitimatize an alt crypto like that.
Perhaps I'll return to DRK being a core holding if Evan gets instantx going, or if there's some equally big news like a large public corporation legitimizing DRK. Even then I'm realizing that DRK is a long long-term play, solving problems years in advance that mainly exist in a world where crypto has been fully accepted by the public. I for one am starting to see better places to park my hobby-fiat.
Until then, good luck you guys.
JL

but the developers of counterparty left counterparty to set-up something specifically around overstock, which could then be used by others. overstock didn't buy into counterparty, they took the core assets of counterparty - the developers.

the asset tracking technology has lots of potential for DRK, it is probably more powerful with DRK.

[TPN]

The price keep on dropping, what's the deal?

[aclass]

Small and big owners keep dumping

The price keep on dropping, what's the deal?

[stonehedge]

The price keep on dropping, what's the deal?

My guess:

Onyx was supposed to be the stable release.  How many updates and/or mini forks have we had now?  How many times have masternode operators and QT users had to manually intervene with their setups to get working again (or at least check everything is ok)?

In my humble opinion I think it would be possible to massively expand testnet at expense to avoid some of these issues.  I could be wrong though.  

In any case, any crypto speculator hates to read the word fork even if it is prefixed with the word mini.  Also, there has been a lack of unified communications around the most recent issue.  

[coins101]

My guess:

Onyx was supposed to be the stable release.  How many updates and/or mini forks have we had now?  How many times have masternode operators and QT users had to manually intervene with their setups to get working again (or at least check everything is ok)?

In my humble opinion I think it would be possible to massively expand testnet at expense to avoid some of these issues.  I could be wrong though.  

In any case, any crypto speculator hates to read the word fork even if it is prefixed with the word mini.  Also, there has been a lack of unified communications around the most recent issue.  

can't help but agree.

However.

what is the excuse at LTC for becoming the bronze to bitcoin's gold? What is bitcoin's excuse for heading towards sub $4bn?

[coins101]

is it possible to burn drk for drk 2.0 to get rid of old clients and start fresh?

its not a real proposal, just wondering if its technically possible.

[eahmadov]

Why is it when news is released about the unique innovations the Devs are creating the price of DARK falls? Makes no damn sense.  Clearly, Darkcoin is undervalued.     I hope you guys don't send out too many press releases back to back.   Great work, tho.

no you are wrong !
it is my buying and after the price drops !
I swear to god , every time i buy any amount of DRK
the next day the price goes way down ! WTF
just got another MN online
and
boom the price drops again

my karma !
(sorry you guys are part of that)

We both should team-up: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg9400147#msg9400147

I though I am the only one whom this happens. What is funny is that I even tried the opposite: WhenI had readily available bitcoins and was on my way to exchnage to buy Darkcoin, I stopped myself because every time I buy, price drops. Guess what happens then? The price goes up I swear, the markets are run by some Alien AI and it has a custom plan for each of us and so far that plan is not in our favor    Hopefully, it will change soon.

[miningpros]

Small and big owners keep dumping

The price keep on dropping, what's the deal?

Whats the reason for Bots to keep pushing down price ? , yes they can get more MN if they want
but there is the risk of more and more people getting disinterest in DRK , then what , they are stuck with MN that keeps getting less valuable ?
They are creating a small group of People with a lot of MN ? , Mining is ( and will not ) be interesting anymore , end of game.
Believe it is not smart to keep pushing down but there must probably be a reason why it is interesting for them.

 

[stonehedge]

Small and big owners keep dumping

The price keep on dropping, what's the deal?

Whats the reason for Bots to keep pushing down price ? , yes they can get more MN if they want
but there is the risk of more and more people getting disinterest in DRK , then what , they are stuck with MN that keeps getting less valuable ?
They are creating a small group of People with a lot of MN ? , Mining is ( and will not ) be interesting anymore , end of game.
Believe it is not smart to keep pushing down but there must probably be a reason why it is interesting for them.

 

There are some fairly big orders in the order book on Cryptsy...

My guess is that the bots are working towards getting those 25+ BTC orders filled.

[miningpros]

Small and big owners keep dumping

The price keep on dropping, what's the deal?

Whats the reason for Bots to keep pushing down price ? , yes they can get more MN if they want
but there is the risk of more and more people getting disinterest in DRK , then what , they are stuck with MN that keeps getting less valuable ?
They are creating a small group of People with a lot of MN ? , Mining is ( and will not ) be interesting anymore , end of game.
Believe it is not smart to keep pushing down but there must probably be a reason why it is interesting for them.

 

There are some fairly big orders in the order book on Cryptsy...

My guess is that the bots are working towards getting those 25+ BTC orders filled.

Big orders were there also at 0.007 and 0.006 and 0.005 and will probably also be there at 0.004
Only reason I can think of is that big whales get orders from investors to keep price low at the moment because under "normal" circumstances DRK would not be out of top 5 Market cap.

[dark-sailor]

I'm thinking price is being manipulated down so we can achive 2000 - 3000 masternodes then that will take 3 million coins of  the market then boom. Only my thoughts tho. 

[tungfa]

I'm thinking price is being manipulated down so we can achive 2000 - 3000 masternodes then that will take 3 million coins of  the market then boom. Only my thoughts tho. 

whow
now that is a conspiracy !!!

[tungfa]

Darkcoin – the word’s truly instantaneous and untraceable digital currency .....>
http://bitcoinist.net/darkcoin-the-words-truly-instantaneous-and-untraceable-digital-currency/

 

Bump that ...>>

[thelonecrouton]

is it possible to burn drk for drk 2.0 to get rid of old clients and start fresh?

its not a real proposal, just wondering if its technically possible.

Each protocol bump should kick everything else off the network, and thus be a fresh start.

This enforcement thing has been holding back development since May. The current mining architecture just isn't a good fit for what Darkcoin is trying to achieve.

I have proposed making mining via Masternodes mandatory many times, and just get called a 'Nazi' and a 'retarded fucking Jew' (by the same people... ) - the nearest I've had to a sensible argument against it is that pools need beefier hardware than Masternodes, but why not require pools to obtain compliance tokens from Masternodes first that are required for a block to be accepted?

There are lots of ways it could be done but nobody seems interested.

I am more and more coming to believe that PoW is a dead end. Centralised pools do not secure the network, they are a security liability. Nobody wants to talk about it. Mining costs do not translate into coin value. Nobody wants to admit it. For the last six months PoW has just held back development, it has done nothing whatsoever to add value.

Shifting block reward in favour of Proof of Service is a good move, but the timeframe is too long and it's meaningless if PoW can still fuck things up.

PoW has been a spanner in the works for half a year now, my fear is that it is also going to make InstanTX unworkable as well.

[thelonecrouton]

I'm thinking price is being manipulated down so we can achive 2000 - 3000 masternodes then that will take 3 million coins of  the market then boom. Only my thoughts tho. 

dark-sailor, any comments on this: https://darkcointalk.org/threads/v10-15-onyx-release.2683/page-38#post-27938 ?

[Ignition75]

A Nazi and a Retarded Fucking Jew in the same sentence?  That's impressive...

Have you spoken to Evan/Flare or raised a Jira ticket about it?  Formalise it and have some quality discussion...

[coins101]

A Nazi and a Retarded Fucking Jew in the same sentence?  That's impressive...

Have you spoken to Evan/Flare or raised a Jira ticket about it?  Formalise it and have some quality discussion...

+101

and raise a ticket for DRK 2.0  

edit

besides, a couple of german brothers have just raised the topic of supercomputers and mining, but releasing their own supercomputer chips to mine bitcoin.

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112850/german-bitcoin-brothers-unveils-bitcoin-mining-supercomputers

KnC just shut their doors to customers and are mining for themselves, with cheap electricity in the arctic.

So there is an argument to be made around the value of mining, if all it does is centralise once the price shoots through the roof.

Can you have mining for drk that powers ordinary transactions, and then super-duper-drk Proof of Service that powers the good stuff?

[KryptoFoo]

A Nazi and a Retarded Fucking Jew in the same sentence?  That's impressive...

Have you spoken to Evan/Flare or raised a Jira ticket about it?  Formalise it and have some quality discussion...

+101

and raise a ticket for DRK 2.0 

There's a thread on using PoS but it didnt garner too many proponents (although there wasnt that much discussion on it).

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/masternode-proof-of-stake.2720/

[tombtc]

Let's juts totally get rid of rhe miners then. We will have a revolution and will be big or we will die. The price is dropping since may anyway. One way or another. Radical change!