[NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread

[hisun]

Hey everyone, Here's the site that will be nemcoin.info
nemcoin.info
Current Versions are at:
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.8.html (black theme)
and
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.7.html (blue theme)

Google Docs:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gbp1rivOTFZvtBG0_rJabUyyKbDuZjMBx9jiifBJO0c/edit?usp=sharing   (nemcoin.info proposal)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PL5hs94Bf822uT75Ix2NcjPfL1ljeVk16mdhcqM-Gm0/edit?usp=sharing (contributor list)

Please give me your input, I have appreciated all the suggestions so far! Do you like the black or blue theme? I prefer the blue theme as I think it is more welcoming, but the black theme would go well with ournem.com
Also not an "updates" section will be the next thing I implement.
**I can use more pictures, etc for the website, read the google docs for more info on how you can help, thanks!**

good job.
up up!

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[sepehr]

Guys ignore 2Kool!

Pleas consider my Idea about Crypto Company or Company account in Crypto world:

We can arrange for a company account!
We can have two type of accounts, Personal accounts and company accounts like any Bank.
Personal accounts can act just like normal currency accounts. One person have the total control over the account while he/she have it's credentials.
But Company accounts can include several personal accounts. each personal account is a member of board of company and can participate in decisions.
Company board members can decide how the payments from company account should be made.
They will vote for a logical order that showing how payments from company account should be made.

For example:

Payments from Company Account(CA) can be confirmed if "Personal Account A"(PS-A) confirm it.
Payments from CA can be confirmed if "PS-A and PS-B" confirm it.
Payments from CA can be confirmed if "PS-A or (PS-B and PS-C)" confirm it.

So in this case the system can:

1-Form a company in virtual world.
2-The company board can take decisions according to the voting system we implemented separately for a "logical order".
3-payments from company can be made according to combination of Personal entities defined in "logical order"
4-Members of board at anytime can change the "logical order" of company so they can change the CEO of company as they wish.
5-The company after forming can announce Assets in Asset exchange feature. so everyone can be a stake holder of an asset of company. And receive dividends.

It's just a new Idea aroused in my mind!

I think every one that implement this idea in his currency will have the future!

Sorry, I don't completely understand. You want to open a NEM Bank? with a board of directors consisting of account holders who will create assets and divide the profit? What assets do u have in mind? Who keeps the deposits, who has access and how can they be trusted?

No No! ashapasa!

I just want to have company account with NEM just like personal account that we have now in NEX or any other crypto currency.

I remember that you told that you are ready to help on creating localbitcoin like company in your own country.

So be it!

You, me and several other people join together and form a company identity.
We can open a company account in NEM and choose a CEO and CEO have the right to send money from company account.

If he is not good we can change it!

We form a company in crypto world and I call it Crypto company.

It'll be brilliant if we can implement it!!!

sure we could try, lets wait till coin release to discuss this further.

Why don't discuss it now rather than this not cool and no result discussions about 2kool???

[ashapasa]

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Code:

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[sevenyears26]

Hey everyone, Here's the site that will be nemcoin.info
nemcoin.info
Current Versions are at:
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.8.html (black theme)
and
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.7.html (blue theme)

Google Docs:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gbp1rivOTFZvtBG0_rJabUyyKbDuZjMBx9jiifBJO0c/edit?usp=sharing   (nemcoin.info proposal)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PL5hs94Bf822uT75Ix2NcjPfL1ljeVk16mdhcqM-Gm0/edit?usp=sharing (contributor list)

Please give me your input, I have appreciated all the suggestions so far! Do you like the black or blue theme? I prefer the blue theme as I think it is more welcoming, but the black theme would go well with ournem.com
Also not an "updates" section will be the next thing I implement.
**I can use more pictures, etc for the website, read the google docs for more info on how you can help, thanks!**

+1 For the black theme. Great job on this. Its on par with the ournem site.

[ashapasa]

Hey everyone, Here's the site that will be nemcoin.info
nemcoin.info
Current Versions are at:
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.8.html (black theme)
and
http://oddape.co/AwkwardTheme/index1.9.7.html (blue theme)

Google Docs:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gbp1rivOTFZvtBG0_rJabUyyKbDuZjMBx9jiifBJO0c/edit?usp=sharing   (nemcoin.info proposal)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PL5hs94Bf822uT75Ix2NcjPfL1ljeVk16mdhcqM-Gm0/edit?usp=sharing (contributor list)

Please give me your input, I have appreciated all the suggestions so far! Do you like the black or blue theme? I prefer the blue theme as I think it is more welcoming, but the black theme would go well with ournem.com
Also not an "updates" section will be the next thing I implement.
**I can use more pictures, etc for the website, read the google docs for more info on how you can help, thanks!**
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good job.
up up!

its very good. I am glad you took that scary hand thing off .

[Djentriser]

Hi, can anyone tell me if there will be alias system featured in NEM?

[johnV]

signature try no1:
try some new colors yourself!!

 ►  NEW ECONOMY MOVEMENT  ◄  
 100% built from scratch • revolutionary forging mechanism • fairly distributed

Code:

[center][size=19pt][glow=black,1,900][color=yellow][b][size=20pt]  ►  N[/size][size=15pt]EW[/size] [size=20pt]E[/size][size=15pt]CONOMY[/size] [size=20pt]M[/size][size=15pt]OVEMENT[/size][size=20pt]  ◄  [/size][/b][/color][/glow][/size]
[glow=yellow,1,900][size=8pt]  100% built from scratch • revolutionary forging mechanism • fairly distributed [/size][/glow]
[/center]

 ►  NEW ECONOMY MOVEMENT  ◄  
 100% built from scratch • revolutionary forging mechanism • fairly distributed

Code:

[center][size=19pt][glow=maroon,1,900][color=white][b][size=20pt]  ►  N[/size][size=15pt]EW[/size] [size=20pt]E[/size][size=15pt]CONOMY[/size] [size=20pt]M[/size][size=15pt]OVEMENT[/size][size=20pt]  ◄  [/size][/b][/color][/glow][/size]
[glow=white,1,900][size=8pt]  [color=maroon]100% built from scratch • revolutionary forging mechanism • fairly distributed[/color] [/size][/glow]
[/center]

 ►  NEW ECONOMY MOVEMENT  ◄  
 100% built from scratch • revolutionary forging mechanism • fairly distributed

Code:

[center][size=19pt][glow=blue,1,900][color=white][b][size=20pt]  ►  N[/size][size=15pt]EW[/size] [size=20pt]E[/size][size=15pt]CONOMY[/size] [size=20pt]M[/size][size=15pt]OVEMENT[/size][size=20pt]  ◄  [/size][/b][/color][/glow][/size]
[glow=white,1,900][size=8pt]  [color=blue]100% built from scratch • revolutionary forging mechanism • fairly distributed[/color] [/size][/glow]
[/center]

 ►  NEW ECONOMY MOVEMENT  ◄  
 100% built from scratch • revolutionary forging mechanism • fairly distributed

Code:

[center][size=19pt][glow=maroon,1,900][color=cyan][b][size=20pt]  ►  N[/size][size=15pt]EW[/size] [size=20pt]E[/size][size=15pt]CONOMY[/size] [size=20pt]M[/size][size=15pt]OVEMENT[/size][size=20pt]  ◄  [/size][/b][/color][/glow][/size]
[glow=cyan,1,900][size=8pt]  [color=maroon]100% built from scratch • revolutionary forging mechanism • fairly distributed[/color] [/size][/glow]
[/center]

Friends help NEM by using your empty signature space to promote NEM. Just cut and paste in your profile signature box. we have 3000 people imagine if we all do this together  

Bumber sticker?

[ashapasa]

yes.

[Lasmiranda]

Already changed my signature 

Hey guys, help promoting NEM!

[sarahg]

Catching up with the NEM thread. What is with that 2Kool4Skewl character? Is he a major malfunction or what?
How sad for him. I hope he just stays away, we don't him here.

[Dreibhahn]

We don't need guys like him. He is just trolling and want to sabotage NEM. I hope he leaves our community to troll in some NXT-threads.
In my opinion 2Kool4Skewl is a poor guy without friends. He loves to be the enemy of everybody in btt.
 

[ashapasa]

I think a final stakeholders list is set to be released soon.

[patmast3r]

I think a final stakeholders list is set to be released soon.

That's right. It'll be final but only until we start with the public auditing which will again alter the list by refunding big multi-accers and whoever wants out now that NEM becomes something more than was anticipated at the beginning.

[caspar]

I suggest, our website（http://www.ournem.com/） can make into many languages ?

[ashapasa]

I think a final stakeholders list is set to be released soon.

That's right. It'll be final but only until we start with the public auditing which will again alter the list by refunding big multi-accers and whoever wants out now that NEM becomes something more than was anticipated at the beginning.

What do u mean by public auditing whats the difference ?

[Jaguar0625]

+ Unlike Bitcoin and other mining coins, all NEM would be distributed at the genesis block. NEM stakeholders are its own network nodes which verify the transactions and protect the network following a hybrid of Proof of Stake/ Proof of Importance forging mechanism. This type of distribution eliminates the need to have a mining industry which is an external force that imposes a huge cost to Bitcoin and other POW networks. The computational arm-race is avoided by using the hybrid of Proof of Stake/ Proof of Importance forging mechanism.

+ A novel method Proof of Importance forging that rewards the nodes that re most important to the network, not the nodes with the biggest number of NEM.

+ Support for colored coin implementation and the asset exchange is designed in the beginning with advanced features such as automatic settlement, assets listed with an expiration date. NEM focuses on the usability of the asset exchange to make them the premier platform for fundraising, asset listing, token issuing etc.

+ Secure messages for contract storage.

I am big fan of decentralization, and I am not sure if this kind of coin would represent level of decentralization other meta-currency's represent. Actually this "arm-race" as you describe it kinda make sure we wont have any dominant power that could put any kind of influence on people money. Here old user would have large advantage over new users. Of course additional cost created while mining is a problem but shouldn't we upgrade it, make compute power more useful insted of removing it...  

That is the key question around POS vs POW. Personally, I think there are only a few thousand BTC miners that have invested enough in hardware to mine competitively. So, I don't think NEM will be drastically more concentrated than BTC. But, NEM's success will depend on people actually using it as a currency and not hoarding it. We'll have to wait and see how good a job the community does with that.

[Jaguar0625]

Guys ignore 2Kool!

Pleas consider my Idea about Crypto Company or Company account in Crypto world:

We can arrange for a company account!
We can have two type of accounts, Personal accounts and company accounts like any Bank.
Personal accounts can act just like normal currency accounts. One person have the total control over the account while he/she have it's credentials.
But Company accounts can include several personal accounts. each personal account is a member of board of company and can participate in decisions.
Company board members can decide how the payments from company account should be made.
They will vote for a logical order that showing how payments from company account should be made.

For example:

Payments from Company Account(CA) can be confirmed if "Personal Account A"(PS-A) confirm it.
Payments from CA can be confirmed if "PS-A and PS-B" confirm it.
Payments from CA can be confirmed if "PS-A or (PS-B and PS-C)" confirm it.

So in this case the system can:

1-Form a company in virtual world.
2-The company board can take decisions according to the voting system we implemented separately for a "logical order".
3-payments from company can be made according to combination of Personal entities defined in "logical order"
4-Members of board at anytime can change the "logical order" of company so they can change the CEO of company as they wish.
5-The company after forming can announce Assets in Asset exchange feature. so everyone can be a stake holder of an asset of company. And receive dividends.

It's just a new Idea aroused in my mind!

I think every one that implement this idea in his currency will have the future!

Sorry, I don't completely understand. You want to open a NEM Bank? with a board of directors consisting of account holders who will create assets and divide the profit? What assets do u have in mind? Who keeps the deposits, who has access and how can they be trusted?

No No! ashapasa!

I just want to have company account with NEM just like personal account that we have now in NEX or any other crypto currency.

I remember that you told that you are ready to help on creating localbitcoin like company in your own country.

So be it!

You, me and several other people join together and form a company identity.
We can open a company account in NEM and choose a CEO and CEO have the right to send money from company account.

If he is not good we can change it!

We form a company in crypto world and I call it Crypto company.

It'll be brilliant if we can implement it!!!

Just reposting my response in PM:

I was brainstorming on how to support "collective" accounts, which is somewhat aligned with your idea.

The scenario I had in mind was user A announces a bounty, N users contribute to the bounty.

Bounty is completed by user B. Bounty is paid to user B when user A and some percentage of the bounty contributors sign off on it.

This is similar to bullets 1 and 3.

I'm not sure if this will make it in the first version of NEM since we have a lot of other development to do .

[patmast3r]

I think a final stakeholders list is set to be released soon.

That's right. It'll be final but only until we start with the public auditing which will again alter the list by refunding big multi-accers and whoever wants out now that NEM becomes something more than was anticipated at the beginning.

What do u mean by public auditing whats the difference ?

We'll try to weed out big multi-accounters. It was said in the beginning that everyone is welcome to buy multiple stakes with multiples accounts so everyone can bring in friends and so on. However we don't want peole to buy 20 or more stakes for themselves which seems to have happend.

[SZZT]

THERE IS an ignore button, next to every username.

If you feel like someones' posts annoy you, CLICK THE IGNORE BUTTON! Puff! Magic happens and the trolls disappear.

If you feel that someone who disagrees with you, should be kicked by an open forum devoted to developing technologies and protocols that enable users to freely voice their opinions, even if they are different than yours,
THEN IT IS YOU WHO NEEDS TO GTFO NOW.

Use the ignore button against the trolls.
Stop asking for people to get kicked, especially if you just discovered this corner of the interwebs.

If any of the posters here feel annoyed, they should just be quiet and go on with their lives.
If you are asking to shut someone up because you have a different opinion THIS PLACE IS NOT FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

[ashapasa]

I think a final stakeholders list is set to be released soon.

That's right. It'll be final but only until we start with the public auditing which will again alter the list by refunding big multi-accers and whoever wants out now that NEM becomes something more than was anticipated at the beginning.

What do u mean by public auditing whats the difference ?

We'll try to weed out big multi-accounters. It was said in the beginning that everyone is welcome to buy multiple stakes with multiples accounts so everyone can bring in friends and so on. However we don't want peole to buy 20 or more stakes for themselves which seems to have happend.

Hate to bring this up? but its " the big elephant in the room" how do we decide its ok to have 10 accounts but not 20 ? This question will be asked many times, once multi-stakeholders are being refunded.

Personally I feel even 10 stake is too much, those ten stakes could have gone to 10 more people who could be more valuable to the movement. Whats the point of owning ten stakes, they are actually only hurting themselves in the process by limiting the number of active participants who might actually raise the overall value of his one stake.

How many unique members do we actually have? If we assume each person on average bought two stakes ( its a real possibility) then we only have 1500 actual member , if the average is 4 accts per head then its only 750 real people.

I am not sure whats fair? Maybe 2 stakes( one for loved one) as initially stated would be the right thing to do for everyone. Remember more stakeholders equals more NEM evangelists.