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[oinquer]

sooo how do i configure my miner correctly if my reject rate goes up?

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[maxpowerzz92]

sooo how do i configure my miner correctly if my reject rate goes up?

Lower your intensity setting.

[LostSavage]

It sounds like shares after "Pool 0 stale share detected, submitting as user requested" will now be rejected.  I think this will make the rejected shared on my setup around 5% (if it is similar to Clevermining) to up from 0.2%. I am running intensity 20 on my R9 290. I'll try lowering it once the new stratum server code is put into production.

[poolwaffle]

In the test we've been running here over the last 2 hours (small portion of the pool), we're seeing the reject rate at roughly 2.6% (a bit higher when mining small coins, lower when mining big coins).

Going to start the transition to the new servers now, your miners will likely disconnect/reconnect in the process, possibly multiple times. Nothing to worry about

[richmke]

when a coin switch happened, or when a new block was found, and we sent new work to the miner, the miner would be forced to do a pipeline flush (read "stop working" for a very short bit).  During that time, these jacked up miners would submit the shares they hadn't submitted yet.  We would accept them because they were coming in just after a switch, and we were being forgiving.  However, in most cases (block changes are far more often than coin switches), these shares had a 0% profitability (they were stale).

I am new to mining, ....

Doesn't "difficulty" also have the same effect? Didn't you set the minimum difficulty to 512?

On faster coins, these block changes are every few seconds, and that delay makes a huge difference in profitability.

So, let's say that with a difficulty of 512, I am submitting shares every 4 seconds. Wouldn't that make most of my shares stale?

Any guess on the share submission rate per 1MH/s with a difficulty level of 512?

[Norpps]

when a coin switch happened, or when a new block was found, and we sent new work to the miner, the miner would be forced to do a pipeline flush (read "stop working" for a very short bit).  During that time, these jacked up miners would submit the shares they hadn't submitted yet.  We would accept them because they were coming in just after a switch, and we were being forgiving.  However, in most cases (block changes are far more often than coin switches), these shares had a 0% profitability (they were stale).

I am new to mining, ....

Doesn't "difficulty" also have the same effect? Didn't you set the minimum difficulty to 512?

On faster coins, these block changes are every few seconds, and that delay makes a huge difference in profitability.

So, let's say that with a difficulty of 512, I am submitting shares every 4 seconds. Wouldn't that make most of my shares stale?

Any guess on the share submission rate per 1MH/s with a difficulty level of 512?

1.5-2 shares per minute

[poolwaffle]

when a coin switch happened, or when a new block was found, and we sent new work to the miner, the miner would be forced to do a pipeline flush (read "stop working" for a very short bit).  During that time, these jacked up miners would submit the shares they hadn't submitted yet.  We would accept them because they were coming in just after a switch, and we were being forgiving.  However, in most cases (block changes are far more often than coin switches), these shares had a 0% profitability (they were stale).

I am new to mining, ....

Doesn't "difficulty" also have the same effect? Didn't you set the minimum difficulty to 512?

On faster coins, these block changes are every few seconds, and that delay makes a huge difference in profitability.

So, let's say that with a difficulty of 512, I am submitting shares every 4 seconds. Wouldn't that make most of my shares stale?

Not the same at all.  Difficulty will give you how long on average it takes to find a share (essentially).  When those shares come in is completely random.  If you randomly find them all between block switches, you'd have 100% accepted rate (regardless of difficulty).  If you randomly find them all during block switches, you'll have a 0% accepted rate.  Has nothing to do with difficulty.

[Norpps]

Unconverted piling up, exchanges slow again?

[fcmatt]

Any one having any regrets for not mining at dedicated litecoin pool? Litecoin is rising fast on huobi news.

Sure we regret not making the maximum amount of money possible from our rigs but if we could know the future we would not be mining at all.
We would already be rich... so no point in crying over spilled milk. Just use some of your earned btc and buy LTC before it "goes to the moon".

[WhatCantIRegister]

Any one having any regrets for not mining at dedicated litecoin pool? Litecoin is rising fast on huobi news.

Sure we regret not making the maximum amount of money possible from our rigs but if we could know the future we would not be mining at all.
We would already be rich... so no point in crying over spilled milk. Just use some of your earned btc and buy LTC before it "goes to the moon".

Frankly, just cause it's getting a pump doesn't mean it's going to the moon. For the longest while, I kept pool hopping coin to coin, watching and trying to guess where the next pump was going to occur, but frankly it's pretty much impossible to correctly guess the next pump (you need inside info).

If anything, the pump on litecoin right now might be bad for it in the long run: Each and every coin wishes for stability not volatility, whether it's for becoming an asset or actual currency replacement. A pump on litecoin with no relation to other coin market values going up just means to me that there is a whale pumping, and an unfortunate dump is on its way.

*Edit*
To whit, it's probably gonna happen right now:
https://i.imgur.com/YJLRrgP.png

[poolwaffle]

Took a bit longer than I wanted it to, but the new stratum server is up and running 100% of EU (still gotta move the others).  Its looking _really_ good.  Extremely fast, slightly higher than previous reject rates, but not outside of what was expected (2-3%).  Short-term profitability looks better for EU compared to others, which makes me think its going to help overall, but could just be a luck-bump at the exact time that I look at it (of course it would be..)

[miless2111s]

Alrighty guys.
...new code...rejections...optimisation

OK, forgive me if these are daft questions but as I'm new I'll ask...
1) I know I can see the rejections in cgminer (A: xxxx R: yyyy for each card) but is there somewhere I can easily see the totals / % from the pool's point of view or do I need to add them all up across all my cards?  In other pools they have a stat which shows your total rejects but I don't know if I we have anything like this on WP
2) At what level should I start to take action?  What sort of % would you suggest should cause me to reduce intensity?
3) What action to take?   Now I know that seems like a silly question in that if the % is too high I need to reduce intensity but I assume I need to knock it back 1 or 2 at a time and then wait to see the impact on rejections but how long to wait?  Is it a pretty instance cause and effect or is it sensible to leave it for 1 hour or 1 day etc?  Or is there somewhere to go to see what intensity works for my cards?

I just want to make this as profitable for me and everyone else as possible and don't want my lack of knowledge to get in the way!  Especially as you're doing such hard work for us all

Many thanks

Miles

[Norpps]

Took a bit longer than I wanted it to, but the new stratum server is up and running 100% of EU (still gotta move the others).  Its looking _really_ good.  Extremely fast, slightly higher than previous reject rates, but not outside of what was expected (2-3%).  Short-term profitability looks better for EU compared to others, which makes me think its going to help overall, but could just be a luck-bump at the exact time that I look at it (of course it would be..)

Looks really good, i did reset counters when new stratum came alive, 0% rejected so far.

[poolwaffle]

Alrighty guys.
...new code...rejections...optimisation

OK, forgive me if these are daft questions but as I'm new I'll ask...
1) I know I can see the rejections in cgminer (A: xxxx R: yyyy for each card) but is there somewhere I can easily see the totals / % from the pool's point of view or do I need to add them all up across all my cards?  In other pools they have a stat which shows your total rejects but I don't know if I we have anything like this on WP
2) At what level should I start to take action?  What sort of % would you suggest should cause me to reduce intensity?
3) What action to take?   Now I know that seems like a silly question in that if the % is too high I need to reduce intensity but I assume I need to knock it back 1 or 2 at a time and then wait to see the impact on rejections but how long to wait?  Is it a pretty instance cause and effect or is it sensible to leave it for 1 hour or 1 day etc?  Or is there somewhere to go to see what intensity works for my cards?

I just want to make this as profitable for me and everyone else as possible and don't want my lack of knowledge to get in the way!  Especially as you're doing such hard work for us all

1) I'll be adding to the miners page shortly (it was never high enough to really put on there)
2) Its not % based unfortunately, its % compared to increase in hash power.  For example, early on bumps in intensity (say 8 to 9) will yield a TON more hashpower, for a very small increase in rejects (say +10% shares, +0.1% rejects, very obviously worth it).  Later intensity increases will yield a small bump in hash power, for a larger increase in rejects (say +1% shares, +2% rejects, probably not worth it).  It has to be done on a per miner basis unfortunately.  Typical ranges for rejects are around 2-3%, and aren't terribly worrysome.  10%+ is probably worrysome.  It also depends a lot on your latency to the stratum server...
3) Back off intensity, or try to use a "closer" (ping-wise) stratum endpoint.  If you're in asia, and you're using the USEast endpoint, you're probably doing it wrong

[toxic0n]

Hey Waffle, is there an API for individual miner stats?
Since that Android widget went pay-only, I want to make my own simple one. Do people just grep the HTML for the miner stats or is there an API you would prefer me to use?

[DrunkenDonkey]

Still not a single share lost after the switch (which is about 50 min now) on any of the cards, I'm cool with that

[Sigals]

does this mean vardiff will be returning?

[ak111in]

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[haggis]

Hi guys,

I'm using Wafflepools since a couple of days and I'm happy with this decision so far. But still looking for more optimization as the 5min hash graph shows very large amplitudes. While my rig has constant 2.4Mh and WU 2300, the hash graph at better stats looks like this:



Any ideas what could cause this?

[DrunkenDonkey]

This is how it is, just watch it in bigger resolution like 30 or 1 hour, there is nothing you can do.
ps: waffle, the 5 min resolution on the stats don't make much sense too, up for increasing it a bit to like half an hour?