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Author Topic: [CLOSED] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+NMC, Stratum, VarDiff, Private Servers  (Read 829275 times)
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November 12, 2013, 11:16:51 AM
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One would think that one of the larger outfits would learn from their collective mistakes and:

1.) Pre-announce no more than two weeks in advance of shipping, a month if they want to

2.) Sell inventory-on-hand only.

I realize that pre-orders have been used to finance the whole shebang so far, but proof-of-concept has been established. There is VC money available for companies that want to do it right. The pre-order model is clearly a failure.

From whose point of view?
Certainly a failure from the point of view of the customers who are putting up all the money, but it seems to be very successful for the ASIC companies, who take all the money up front through non-chargeback methods and then have no pressure to actually deliver a working product on time.
If people are still willing to pre-order, companies will continue to take their money.

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November 12, 2013, 01:16:59 PM
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How do we tell if orphaned blocks have been paid by the pool ?

A few days ago I looked through the past 100 blocks on the pool stats page, and there were no orphans or stales listed

On blockchain the block below was an orphan, but it is absent from the pool stats page

https://blockchain.info/block-height/269202
https://blockchain.info/block-index/439404/000000000000000190c34f75db3c57ecdef861f8da265b398256eb2b1fd39a10
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November 12, 2013, 05:44:38 PM
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How do we tell if orphaned blocks have been paid by the pool ?

A few days ago I looked through the past 100 blocks on the pool stats page, and there were no orphans or stales listed

On blockchain the block below was an orphan, but it is absent from the pool stats page

https://blockchain.info/block-height/269202
https://blockchain.info/block-index/439404/000000000000000190c34f75db3c57ecdef861f8da265b398256eb2b1fd39a10

Orphans are paid as long as the primary payment server sees the block.  *Most* of BTC Guild's hash power is in the US, which is where that payment server is located.  There are the occasional very rare orphans found by the EU servers which do not get seen because the window between the two competign blocks was close enough to trump the latency between the US payment server and the EU server.  It's extremely rare for this to happen since every node is either directly connected, or has 1 hop between them (bitcoind doesn't have an addnode method that aggressively keeps connections open between the two servers, so instead BTC Guild had a few dummy servers which can only connect to the pool servers to attempt to circumvent that limitation).

That block can be shown as an EU-block due to a small token in the coinbase (03921b04040002b96505 is the start of the coinbase message.  05 at the end is the server identifier token.  04 and 05 are EU).

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November 12, 2013, 07:38:52 PM
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Block 269066 is listed in the pool stats, and was orphaned.
Given it was listed by the pool, I presume it was paid out by the pool ?
Clicking in the transaction link gives an unconfirmed transaction
http://www.blockchain.info/tx-index/84665c8fc3ef8e40c349c85880e677f6d748c41e97c13a2b584abd227c9dace6
Is that normal ?
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November 12, 2013, 07:47:57 PM
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Block 269066 is listed in the pool stats, and was orphaned.
Given it was listed by the pool, I presume it was paid out by the pool ?
Clicking in the transaction link gives an unconfirmed transaction
http://www.blockchain.info/tx-index/84665c8fc3ef8e40c349c85880e677f6d748c41e97c13a2b584abd227c9dace6
Is that normal ?

Yes, that's how an orphan block looks on blockchain.info (unconfirmed transaction).  If it's in the pool stats, it was paid.

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November 12, 2013, 10:48:41 PM
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The dashboard was updated to re-enable the hiding of NMC statistics for users who haven't turned it on.  It's still a setting in the Settings if you want to enable it again.  If you have NMC hidden, you now have an "Active Workers Mining Summary" section in the top right of the dashboard.  This summary simply gives you the grand total line from your Active Workers (Speed, Total Shares, Total Rejects/%) to save the need of scrolling down.

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November 12, 2013, 11:14:45 PM
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I like not having to scroll down.
Thanks,
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November 13, 2013, 06:15:03 PM
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Work is now starting on the new API server which will include a brand new API for programs/users that would like more control.  The current BTC Guild API is limited to just a raw data dump, while the new one will allow you to pass in arguments of which stats you are polling for.  This will include:  Block Stats, PPLNS Shift Stats, User Account Stats, Pool Stats.

Since it's virtually impossible to know everything that users want, please let me know if you have any specific requests for things to be included.  Note that odds are if it isn't shown by the website in some way, it is likely not possible to produce.  A common request is per worker earnings, something which CANNOT be done due to how the database records your PPLNS earnings (worker-agnostic).

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November 13, 2013, 11:48:00 PM
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Just out of curiosity, do you have any news on the AM Cube yet?  Will you be offering it?
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November 14, 2013, 12:12:13 AM
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Just out of curiosity, do you have any news on the AM Cube yet?  Will you be offering it?

Yes, I just received some photos and tech spec confirmation from friedcat regarding what it needs to be setup, power connectors, etc.  I'm asking for confirmation on the price, and will be placing a limited order for the first batch to gauge demand before placing a larger order.  They will be listed as soon as they're available.

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November 14, 2013, 12:23:18 AM
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That's rather exciting.  Shocked

Is that all you can tell or show us?
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November 14, 2013, 12:42:32 AM
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That's rather exciting.  Shocked

Is that all you can tell or show us?

Pictures will come soon.  A few key points:

1) These are *not* next gen chips yet.  But I expect this is probably the form factor we'll see when they start using smaller chips.
2) They are powered by PCI-e connectors (you will probably have to short the PSU 24-pin connector by either soldering the wires together or using the paperclip method)
3) They're stackable.  They have grooves on the corners which will allow you to slide units to connect them together.
4) No need to buy your own fans, they're designed like a small wind tunnel.
5) 30 GH/s and overclockable through the web interface.
6) They will require a stratum proxy to work with modern pools in their web interface.

I do not know if they can be plugged in and recognized by mining software directly.

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November 14, 2013, 01:05:12 AM
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Thanks! Looking forward to more. Smiley
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November 14, 2013, 01:27:11 AM
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Eleuthria is it thies?


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November 14, 2013, 01:30:47 AM
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my god, your erupter murdered spongebob

This is not some pseudoeconomic post-modern Libertarian cult, it's an un-led, crowd-sourced mega startup organized around mutual self-interest where problems, whether of the theoretical or purely practical variety, are treated as temporary and, ultimately, solvable.
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November 14, 2013, 01:34:45 AM
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That's rather exciting.  Shocked

Is that all you can tell or show us?

Pictures will come soon.  A few key points:

1) These are *not* next gen chips yet.  But I expect this is probably the form factor we'll see when they start using smaller chips.
2) They are powered by PCI-e connectors (you will probably have to short the PSU 24-pin connector by either soldering the wires together or using the paperclip method)
3) They're stackable.  They have grooves on the corners which will allow you to slide units to connect them together.
4) No need to buy your own fans, they're designed like a small wind tunnel.
5) 30 GH/s and overclockable through the web interface.
6) They will require a stratum proxy to work with modern pools in their web interface.

I do not know if they can be plugged in and recognized by mining software directly.

so, if we are already running ASICminer Blades we can just aim these at the same Proxy. I wonder how much throughput the Slush Proxy has.
I'm really getting tired of machines without their own power supplies. Also i hate web based miners. How many spare ethernet ports do most people have? Just another hidden cost.
EDIT: i just saw more pictures in the "pictures of your rigs" thread. it has a USB interfae too? that i'm OK with.

Last vent. I wish you'd accept US$ payments. When i look at the current value of the BTCs i've spent on hardware I want to cry. Cry

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November 14, 2013, 02:21:20 AM
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Last vent. I wish you'd accept US$ payments. When i look at the current value of the BTCs i've spent on hardware I want to cry. Cry

I know the feeling... I just thinking i spent 4btc on 30gh back in august...  Cry

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November 14, 2013, 02:29:24 AM
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Last vent. I wish you'd accept US$ payments. When i look at the current value of the BTCs i've spent on hardware I want to cry. Cry

I know the feeling... I just thinking i spent 4btc on 30gh back in august...  Cry

dude, I sold 100 at 13 to "hedge" my BFL single purchase

oh yeah...it hurts

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November 14, 2013, 03:09:50 AM
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Oh noes!  Look out for BTCGuild 51% attack   Cheesy

Technically BTCGuild is completely capable of doing a "51% attack" dry run on NMC as it owns 90% of the total NMC network hash rate. We will
see interesting results.
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November 14, 2013, 04:59:32 AM
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Oh noes!  Look out for BTCGuild 51% attack   Cheesy

Technically BTCGuild is completely capable of doing a "51% attack" dry run on NMC as it owns 90% of the total NMC network hash rate. We will
see interesting results.

Uhm, where are you getting that number from?  BTC Guild is only about 40% of the NMC network.  GHash.io, BitMinter, Eligius, and BTC Guild are all on NMC.  So are other smaller pools.

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