Bitcoin Forum
December 10, 2016, 11:13:11 AM *
News: To be able to use the next phase of the beta forum software, please ensure that your email address is correct/functional.
 
   Home   Help Search Donate Login Register  
Pages: « 1 ... 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 [228] 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 ... 426 »
  Print  
Author Topic: [CLOSED] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+NMC, Stratum, VarDiff, Private Servers  (Read 829601 times)
This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.
AussieHash
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 675



View Profile
November 05, 2013, 06:37:25 PM
 #4541

is it possible to see who won the past 6 rounds ?
1481368391
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1481368391

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1481368391
Reply with quote  #2

1481368391
Report to moderator
1481368391
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1481368391

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1481368391
Reply with quote  #2

1481368391
Report to moderator
1481368391
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1481368391

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1481368391
Reply with quote  #2

1481368391
Report to moderator
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here.
1481368391
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1481368391

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1481368391
Reply with quote  #2

1481368391
Report to moderator
wtfvanity
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 504


WTF???


View Profile
November 05, 2013, 06:37:57 PM
 #4542

I don't understand why all other pools have almost zero blocks found, yet btc guild is finding more than everyone else

See blockchain.info

6 blocks in a row - btcguild
Remember blockchain.info only lists who relayed them not who found it.



We did mine all 6 of those. In fact, we got last 8 out of 10.

23301   268115   2013-11-05 06:08:26 PM   30e08bf5f8887480f8b19f53a89c2d12d5ce3dfb82002c3363a9cfd50ed195b5   25.04067796   
23300   268114   2013-11-05 06:06:32 PM   1134790dcb6c95b4fd695c1c61f052995262b16beb28125cf3c90fa18f8c57fa   25.01437623   
23299   268113   2013-11-05 06:06:05 PM   61de111eb763b2e35fb9256a86079fd64a6209af69aeb8230c3f89bb67df835a   25.16846165   
23298   268112   2013-11-05 05:52:53 PM   50819ed8eb4a2dd3bb7231bc336e30b17aa3b25808df2a24c9343b86099ae7c3   25.22447888   
23297   268111   2013-11-05 05:40:54 PM   65fdafc79d95e08579e813526bb107e4cf046dcddff0722fee152f75c159eccd   25.05633741   
23296   268110   2013-11-05 05:36:25 PM   671c7b86b6ecb9bc002df0f7e8f73d87d96a46605ae83f9ca23b0d978e77e0f1   25.03973105   
23295   268108   2013-11-05 05:23:17 PM   9c3891e4ca0ba1599fc12911d7b33d14ab499b58bc7dd97c15eead4c5a61ffde   25.27874440   
23294   268106   2013-11-05 04:59:46 PM   401cbf8d951ff85e2572d726133ce814889981d31a9918f610dd42d8e17e544f   25.24562012   

          WTF!     Don't Click Here              
          .      .            .            .        .            .            .          .        .     .               .            .             .            .            .           .            .     .               .         .              .           .            .            .            .     .      .     .    .     .          .            .          .            .            .           .              .     .            .            .           .            .               .         .            .     .            .            .             .            .              .            .            .      .            .            .            .            .            .            .             .          .
eleuthria
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1750


BTC Guild Owner


View Profile WWW
November 05, 2013, 06:40:24 PM
 #4543

We found 6 blocks in 30 minutes.  Thats a pretty unusual burst (not unheard of though).  It just happened to be at a time where the rest of the network hasn't found *one*.  The entire network (BTC Guild included) has had many times where it's more than an hour between blocks, so it's just a mixture of one pool having good luck while the rest isn't.

R.I.P. BTC Guild, 2011 - 2015.
BTC Guild Forum Thread
AussieHash
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 675



View Profile
November 05, 2013, 06:41:44 PM
 #4544

I don't understand why all other pools have almost zero blocks found, yet btc guild is finding more than everyone else

See blockchain.info

6 blocks in a row - btcguild
Remember blockchain.info only lists who relayed them not who found it.



We did mine all 6 of those. In fact, we got last 8 out of 10.

23301   268115   2013-11-05 06:08:26 PM   30e08bf5f8887480f8b19f53a89c2d12d5ce3dfb82002c3363a9cfd50ed195b5   25.04067796   
23300   268114   2013-11-05 06:06:32 PM   1134790dcb6c95b4fd695c1c61f052995262b16beb28125cf3c90fa18f8c57fa   25.01437623   
23299   268113   2013-11-05 06:06:05 PM   61de111eb763b2e35fb9256a86079fd64a6209af69aeb8230c3f89bb67df835a   25.16846165   
23298   268112   2013-11-05 05:52:53 PM   50819ed8eb4a2dd3bb7231bc336e30b17aa3b25808df2a24c9343b86099ae7c3   25.22447888   
23297   268111   2013-11-05 05:40:54 PM   65fdafc79d95e08579e813526bb107e4cf046dcddff0722fee152f75c159eccd   25.05633741   
23296   268110   2013-11-05 05:36:25 PM   671c7b86b6ecb9bc002df0f7e8f73d87d96a46605ae83f9ca23b0d978e77e0f1   25.03973105   
23295   268108   2013-11-05 05:23:17 PM   9c3891e4ca0ba1599fc12911d7b33d14ab499b58bc7dd97c15eead4c5a61ffde   25.27874440   
23294   268106   2013-11-05 04:59:46 PM   401cbf8d951ff85e2572d726133ce814889981d31a9918f610dd42d8e17e544f   25.24562012   

I'm on a pool with 750-930GH/s (it varies alot) and on bitminter 230TH
for the past 36 hours, both pools are ***really*** down on block finding.  In fact the whole network apart from btcguild seems down on its luck !
eleuthria
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1750


BTC Guild Owner


View Profile WWW
November 05, 2013, 07:00:23 PM
 #4545

I'm on a pool with 750-930GH/s (it varies alot) and on bitminter 230TH
for the past 36 hours, both pools are ***really*** down on block finding.  In fact the whole network apart from btcguild seems down on its luck !

BTC Guild's luck is negative if you use a 36 hour window.  It's only started to pick up in the last 8 hours or so.

R.I.P. BTC Guild, 2011 - 2015.
BTC Guild Forum Thread
AussieHash
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 675



View Profile
November 05, 2013, 07:51:52 PM
 #4546

I'm on a pool with 750-930GH/s (it varies alot) and on bitminter 230TH
for the past 36 hours, both pools are ***really*** down on block finding.  In fact the whole network apart from btcguild seems down on its luck !

BTC Guild's luck is negative if you use a 36 hour window.  It's only started to pick up in the last 8 hours or so.

thank you - I was wondering if the large swing in network luck was due to something other than variance.

I think the pool luck 'worm' is a terrific measure, and I wish every pool offered it !
Mattster28
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 170



View Profile
November 05, 2013, 09:26:34 PM
 #4547

I got a question. In the active worker summary where it shows.....stale/dupe/other, what is dupe? Since I hooked up my second BFL 60gh single im getting those now. Never got them when I was just running one single. I have them both pointed to the same worker. Could that be the reason? Hope not cause im not sure how to point each single to thier own worker name.
eleuthria
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1750


BTC Guild Owner


View Profile WWW
November 05, 2013, 09:42:38 PM
 #4548

I got a question. In the active worker summary where it shows.....stale/dupe/other, what is dupe? Since I hooked up my second BFL 60gh single im getting those now. Never got them when I was just running one single. I have them both pointed to the same worker. Could that be the reason? Hope not cause im not sure how to point each single to thier own worker name.

Dupe means you submitted the same share twice.  It's normally a firmware issue.  As far as I know, you're not actually wasting time doing the same hash twice, it's something not getting cleared out of memory and being resent.

R.I.P. BTC Guild, 2011 - 2015.
BTC Guild Forum Thread
BrandonMcPherson
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 205


View Profile
November 05, 2013, 11:23:17 PM
 #4549

Holler if there's a better place to ask this, but as this is "my" pool, I thought I'd ask here.

Last night, the total hashing power of the network was 3.2PH, a bit lower than the roughly 3.7PH the network has been averaging during the last difficulty round according to my eyeballing the numbers.

The projected difficulty trended down to 510,000,000ish, it rolled over at 510,929,738, and suddenly the network is at 4.4PH. All the while, BTC Guild and Slush (the only two pools I pay attention to) have been largely steady with small incremental increases in hashing power throughout the difficulty round.

I've only been mining for 6 weeks and haven't seen cycle after cycle of these increases, so I don't know what the patterns are. It would seem that a quarter of the network dropped out of hashing in order to minimize the difficulty increase so as to maximize returns during the early part of the next difficulty round.

Surely, however, the loss from not hashing for roughly a day more than offsets such attempts to game the system. If that's the case, the timing of the decrease and increase is coincidental. Perhaps those more gifted in the art of math can set me straight on this.

All that said, I have seen frequent jumps and falls of a PH in the network. I first saw 4.5PH about 10 days ago, for instance, though most of the last round was spent below 3.8PH. Where in the heck does that processing power go when it's not hashing BTC?

Is it the NSA jumping in with spare capacity when taking a break from rifling through global communications? I say that mostly in jest, but for the life of me I can't imagine where such wild fluctuations in hashing power could come from or go to.

I'd very much appreciate some insight on these trends from folks that know more and have been around longer than little ol' me.
jojo69
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 728



View Profile
November 05, 2013, 11:26:52 PM
 #4550

Perhaps if big mining operations had to have some downtime, say to upgrade power delivery or reconfigure the physical layout, it might make sense to "game" in this fashion.  I agree that it seems inefficient,  but if you have to turn the stuff off anyway??

This is not some pseudoeconomic post-modern Libertarian cult, it's an un-led, crowd-sourced mega startup organized around mutual self-interest where problems, whether of the theoretical or purely practical variety, are treated as temporary and, ultimately, solvable.
Censorship of e-gold was easy. Censorship of Bitcoin will be… entertaining.
mdude77
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1358


View Profile
November 05, 2013, 11:43:39 PM
 #4551

I'd very much appreciate some insight on these trends from folks that know more and have been around longer than little ol' me.

Global hashrate always cycles around in a sine wave nature.  I'm not sure why, but it has as long as I've watched it.

M

MMinerMonitor author, monitor/auto/schedule reboots/alerts/remote/MobileMiner for Ants and Spondoolies! Latest (5.2). MPoolMonitor author, monitor stats/workers for most pools, global BTC stats (current/nxt diff/USD val/hashrate/calc)! Latest (v4.2) 
Buyer beware of Bitmain hardware and services.
eleuthria
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1750


BTC Guild Owner


View Profile WWW
November 06, 2013, 12:21:18 AM
 #4552

I'd very much appreciate some insight on these trends from folks that know more and have been around longer than little ol' me.

Global hashrate always cycles around in a sine wave nature.  I'm not sure why, but it has as long as I've watched it.

M

The "network hash rate" charts are estimates based on recent block solving activity.  Just like each miner/pool has fluctuating luck (variance), the entire network does as well.  There are times where no blocks are found on the network for over an hour.  There are also times where there are 6 blocks found in 10 minutes.  The overall network variance can swing quite significantly.

For example, if BTC Guild is having a bad day (like it did yesterday), that's ~300-500 GH/s (0.5 PH/s) that is "missing" from the overall network speed estimates.  It's still there, it's still hashing away, it's just having bad luck.  If multiple pools have bad luck simultaneously, it can cause a huge shift.  Alternatively, if BTC Guild has an amazing day (like it did about a week ago), it can appear to be an extra 300-500 GH/s of network speed even though it hasn't changed.

It doesn't help that most sites that display "network speed" are using a 24-hour statistic.  The shorter the window, the more it can swing up/down.

R.I.P. BTC Guild, 2011 - 2015.
BTC Guild Forum Thread
BrandonMcPherson
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 205


View Profile
November 06, 2013, 12:36:34 AM
 #4553

Thanks for the insights.
os2sam
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1918


Think for yourself


View Profile
November 06, 2013, 02:13:39 AM
 #4554

Is this the shelfish pool I need to defend myself against?  Just wondering.

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
BRADLEYPLOOF
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 519


View Profile
November 06, 2013, 02:24:48 AM
 #4555

Is this the shelfish pool I need to defend myself against?  Just wondering.


I wondered that too, what with 8 out of 10 blocks solved in a row earlier today...
dwdoc
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 938


- - -Caveat Aleo- - -


View Profile
November 06, 2013, 02:54:26 AM
 #4556

Is this the shelfish pool I need to defend myself against?  Just wondering.

There is no defense. That's the problem. All you can do is join.
dwdoc
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 938


- - -Caveat Aleo- - -


View Profile
November 06, 2013, 02:59:20 AM
 #4557

Our short term luck took a nosedive, dwdoc. It's on the rebound, but was subpar by almost a full day. It just happened to be the last day of this difficulty.

The five week average is still over 104%, so hooray for medium-term variance. Smiley

Where is btc guild luck per unit time listed?
neutralist
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 86


View Profile
November 06, 2013, 03:04:23 AM
 #4558

Is this the shelfish pool I need to defend myself against?  Just wondering.

Yes it has the most lobster in the pool
eleuthria
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1750


BTC Guild Owner


View Profile WWW
November 06, 2013, 03:15:03 AM
 #4559

Is this the shelfish pool I need to defend myself against?  Just wondering.

Any pool attempting to do what that article claimed would be dead instantly.  Moreso in the case of BTC Guild, since we pay for orphans.  Their strategy forces you to enter into multiple orphan races, with the assumption that you'll eventually hit a big payoff.  The difference here is, if BTC Guild has an orphan, I -lose- ~24.25 BTC.  It's not just losing the income from the block itself, I have to pay it as though it was found in the first place.

The article really overblows the effectiveness, they make many assumptions (like you could just push out your competing blockchain if the network catches up and you'd still have a decent chance at having your block succeed).



Our short term luck took a nosedive, dwdoc. It's on the rebound, but was subpar by almost a full day. It just happened to be the last day of this difficulty.

The five week average is still over 104%, so hooray for medium-term variance. Smiley

Where is btc guild luck per unit time listed?

Right now you can't get a specific unit of time.  But the PPLNS stats does show you the luck per shift (as a date/time).  It currently goes back about 5-6 weeks.  The "average" luck line is from the beginning of that time.  You can zoom in on a few days and eyeball it to get an idea of luck was good or bad (the average line doesn't update based on your zoom).

R.I.P. BTC Guild, 2011 - 2015.
BTC Guild Forum Thread
dwdoc
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 938


- - -Caveat Aleo- - -


View Profile
November 06, 2013, 03:37:30 AM
 #4560

Is this the shelfish pool I need to defend myself against?  Just wondering.

Any pool attempting to do what that article claimed would be dead instantly.  Moreso in the case of BTC Guild, since we pay for orphans.  Their strategy forces you to enter into multiple orphan races, with the assumption that you'll eventually hit a big payoff.  The difference here is, if BTC Guild has an orphan, I -lose- ~24.25 BTC.  It's not just losing the income from the block itself, I have to pay it as though it was found in the first place.

The article really overblows the effectiveness, they make many assumptions (like you could just push out your competing blockchain if the network catches up and you'd still have a decent chance at having your block succeed).



Our short term luck took a nosedive, dwdoc. It's on the rebound, but was subpar by almost a full day. It just happened to be the last day of this difficulty.

The five week average is still over 104%, so hooray for medium-term variance. Smiley

Where is btc guild luck per unit time listed?

Right now you can't get a specific unit of time.  But the PPLNS stats does show you the luck per shift (as a date/time).  It currently goes back about 5-6 weeks.  The "average" luck line is from the beginning of that time.  You can zoom in on a few days and eyeball it to get an idea of luck was good or bad (the average line doesn't update based on your zoom).

Thanks. I saw the shift history but never noticed the pool luck chart below.
Pages: « 1 ... 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 [228] 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 ... 426 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Sponsored by , a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!