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November 29, 2013, 09:57:06 AM
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There have been a couple discussions about btcguild's payout-"restrictions" to avoid it being
misused as a bitcoin-wallet and I do understand that.

In the past, I have casually done manual payouts, and now my "Paid Out" is some quite
uneven number, and there doesn't seem to be a chance to ever get back to nice even
numbers (short of abandoning this account and opening a new one). Is there?

I'm aware that some will just not understand why anyone could even care about
"uneven" numbers, but, well, I guess it's just one example of a "1st world problem". Smiley
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November 29, 2013, 10:02:17 AM
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There have been a couple discussions about btcguild's payout-"restrictions" to avoid it being
misused as a bitcoin-wallet and I do understand that.

In the past, I have casually done manual payouts, and now my "Paid Out" is some quite
uneven number, and there doesn't seem to be a chance to ever get back to nice even
numbers (short of abandoning this account and opening a new one). Is there?

I'm aware that some will just not understand why anyone could even care about
"uneven" numbers, but, well, I guess it's just one example of a "1st world problem". Smiley


You're probably screwed on getting your "Paid Out" number to be a nice round number.  As you posted, the main reason to not have complete control over the withdrawal amount is that does directly encourage using your pool balance as a debit card and treating it like a bank that slowly fills back up as you mine.  Auto payouts are nice round numbers because the extra decimals don't mean much if you plan to continue mining.  Manual payouts are full-balance because if you want to quit it lets you fully liquidate every last satoshi so the idea that the pool is holding your spare change hostage isn't valid.

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November 29, 2013, 10:35:00 AM
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There have been a couple discussions about btcguild's payout-"restrictions" to avoid it being
misused as a bitcoin-wallet and I do understand that.

In the past, I have casually done manual payouts, and now my "Paid Out" is some quite
uneven number, and there doesn't seem to be a chance to ever get back to nice even
numbers (short of abandoning this account and opening a new one). Is there?

I'm aware that some will just not understand why anyone could even care about
"uneven" numbers, but, well, I guess it's just one example of a "1st world problem". Smiley

You're probably screwed on getting your "Paid Out" number to be a nice round number.  As you posted, the main reason to not have complete control over the withdrawal amount is that does directly encourage using your pool balance as a debit card and treating it like a bank that slowly fills back up as you mine.  Auto payouts are nice round numbers because the extra decimals don't mean much if you plan to continue mining.  Manual payouts are full-balance because if you want to quit it lets you fully liquidate every last satoshi so the idea that the pool is holding your spare change hostage isn't valid.

So far I entirely understand it.  I was thinking of maybe doing one more manual payout myself at some
well-chosen time when that would land me onto some x.xx987654 "Paid Out" number, and a bit later
(after having my erupter do some more work) do a certain *unrestricted* *donation* of 0.00012346
to this site...
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November 29, 2013, 05:38:21 PM
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you would actually prefer that we don't let our balances build up?

or you just don't want to process the transaction volume of people using their pool account to make purchases?

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November 29, 2013, 05:41:54 PM
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You could stop mining and wait for all your share to pay out. once there is no more coming in a manual payout would zero your account, I think. Of course that would be expensive in unmined shares.

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November 29, 2013, 06:41:37 PM
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can anyone help me to locate my NMC withdrawals to btc-e.com 1 or 2 weeks ago to address MzAx5buAA8FNV7tYhJTefXLfJXnHyaHgtd

it could also be a issue on BTC-E side maybe the NMC network itself? around 63 NMC withdraw 3 or 4 transactions.

thank you!

MzAx5buAA8FNV7tYhJTefXLfJXnHyaHgtd is my NMC deposit address within BTC-E. transaktions are below. but I cannot see the amount of NMC in my account.

http://explorer.dot-bit.org/a/MzAx5buAA8FNV7tYhJTefXLfJXnHyaHgtd

quote from btc-e.com NMC deposit page:

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We do not support generated transactions from pools like Eligius, P2Pool etc.

What does this mean technical?

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We do not support generated transactions from pools like Eligius, P2Pool etc.

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It means technically they don't support generated transactions from Eligius or P2Pool.   Huh
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It means technically they don't support generated transactions from Eligius or P2Pool.   Huh

what is the difference between to receive NMC on a Namecoin client with a NMC address and to receive NMC in BTC-E with a NMC address?

that was my question. how can you prevent to receive NMC on a Namecoin address technical.

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November 29, 2013, 08:45:48 PM
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does anyone know what the specific usb connector that plugs into the ASICminer 49 port hub is called? none of the cables i have around the house seem to be the correct one. I need to know what to buy.

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November 29, 2013, 08:53:14 PM
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We do not support generated transactions from pools like Eligius, P2Pool etc.

What does this mean technical?


It means technically they don't support generated transactions from Eligius or P2Pool.   Huh

what is the difference between to receive NMC on a Namecoin client with a NMC address and to receive NMC in BTC-E with a NMC address?

that was my question. how can you prevent to receive NMC on a Namecoin address technical.

Eligius and P2Pool pay you with "generation" type transactions.  These can be orphaned, and also can't be spent for 120 confirmations.  BTC-e's system for processing deposits will not properly recognize a generation type transaction.

BTC Guild's payments are all sent using standard address-to-address type payments.

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November 29, 2013, 08:54:04 PM
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does anyone know what the specific usb connector that plugs into the ASICminer 49 port hub is called? none of the cables i have around the house seem to be the correct one. I need to know what to buy.

It's a USB A-to-B cable.

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does anyone know what the specific usb connector that plugs into the ASICminer 49 port hub is called? none of the cables i have around the house seem to be the correct one. I need to know what to buy.

It's a USB A-to-B cable.

THANKS!!!

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We do not support generated transactions from pools like Eligius, P2Pool etc.

What does this mean technical?


It means technically they don't support generated transactions from Eligius or P2Pool.   Huh

what is the difference between to receive NMC on a Namecoin client with a NMC address and to receive NMC in BTC-E with a NMC address?

that was my question. how can you prevent to receive NMC on a Namecoin address technical.

Eligius and P2Pool pay you with "generation" type transactions.  These can be orphaned, and also can't be spent for 120 confirmations.  BTC-e's system for processing deposits will not properly recognize a generation type transaction.

BTC Guild's payments are all sent using standard address-to-address type payments.

thank you,  eleuthria! I have to open a ticket on BTC-E. :/

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November 30, 2013, 10:23:56 AM
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API pollers would've died when the website was having issues earlier.  Shouldn't have been having any new problems since then though.

"API pollers" still alive? thank you!

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November 30, 2013, 04:37:10 PM
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API pollers would've died when the website was having issues earlier.  Shouldn't have been having any new problems since then though.

"API pollers" still alive? thank you!

API programs shouldn't be having any issues.  It was only a brief outage.

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API pollers would've died when the website was having issues earlier.  Shouldn't have been having any new problems since then though.

"API pollers" still alive? thank you!

API programs shouldn't be having any issues.  It was only a brief outage.

hm, nothing seems to me changed on Android/App side...

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November 30, 2013, 09:40:48 PM
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Does having a faster internet connection result in higher shares submitted? I just upgraded my internet from 6MBps down/1MBps up to 15MBps down/10MBps up. My shares have gone up significantly.

Before I was submitting around 240,000 and now I'm submitting 300,000 and no less than 290,000 per shift!

So does it make a difference or was something wrong with my old internet?

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Does having a faster internet connection result in higher shares submitted? I just upgraded my internet from 6MBps down/1MBps up to 15MBps down/10MBps up. My shares have gone up significantly.

Before I was submitting around 240,000 and now I'm submitting 300,000 and no less than 290,000 per shift!

So does it make a difference or was something wrong with my old internet?

It would depend on your difficulty. If your difficulty was 1 or 2 you would use more bandwidth than if it was say 10. But even at diff 1 with the Stratum protocol the bandwidth shouldn't be significant.

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November 30, 2013, 11:17:40 PM
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Does having a faster internet connection result in higher shares submitted? I just upgraded my internet from 6MBps down/1MBps up to 15MBps down/10MBps up. My shares have gone up significantly.

Before I was submitting around 240,000 and now I'm submitting 300,000 and no less than 290,000 per shift!

So does it make a difference or was something wrong with my old internet?

Shift sizes were increased ~20% (1.2b vs 1b).  So that's why your shares per shift went up.  Contribution % shouldn't have changed much (although the pool has gained a bit of speed in the last two days).

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November 30, 2013, 11:24:18 PM
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eleuthria

you would actually prefer that we don't let our balances build up?

or you just don't want to process the transaction volume of people using their pool account to make purchases?

still wondering about this

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