【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 🌟 (New Price List 04/2021)

[Sampey]

is there an order without status?

Can i have a screenshot of your full situation? Probably i will have all the info i need in just 1 image 

[starmman]

is there an order without status?

Can i have a screenshot of your full situation? Probably i will have all the info i need in just 1 image 

Here you go, I tried to delete the empty orders in the meantime (they are now under status 'Delete Request' instead of 'Empty') - but the delete request has not been successful until now

[Sampey]

ok it's the PONG ORDER. No status.
I need to understand how this happens, BUT i think it will be easy to fix.
I just ask you a last favour : can you send me the FULL Log of this market? I mean INSANE/BTC Log

[starmman]

ok it's the PONG ORDER. No status.
I need to understand how this happens, BUT i think it will be easy to fix.
I just ask you a last favour : can you send me the FULL Log of this market? I mean INSANE/BTC Log

Sure, I've sent you a PM with a link

[incompleteness]

How do I buy it? Sent SO a PM. Is that it? new to the forum.

[whitenz]

I've got a question. 

I am trading on a pair with little liquidity. This means that even little orders can have large upward and downward effects on price.

What happened is that after a successful buy ping-pong cycle, the price shot up suddenly and CAT did the following buy ping at a very high price. Then the price went down a lot, so I made a loss.

Except than a stop loss rule, are there other ways to set CAT so that on a successful buy ping-pong, the next cycle starts only if the next buy price is lower then the previous ping buy price + %.

I hope I've been clear enough.

[whitenz]

I've got a question.  

I am trading on a pair with little liquidity. This means that even little orders can have large upward and downward effects on price.

What happened is that after a successful buy ping-pong cycle, the price shot up suddenly and CAT did the following buy ping at a very high price. Then the price went down a lot, so I made a loss.

Except than a stop loss rule, are there other ways to set CAT so that on a successful buy ping-pong, the next cycle starts only if the next buy price is lower then the previous ping buy price + %.

I hope I've been clear enough.

Crystal clear. Yes, you can (I would say you should) set a Price Limit to your next Ping, both as an absolute value or as a percentage. The form to create limits is very flexible, you can define whatever you need.

Never Buy/Sell Under/Over your last Ping/Pong Buy/Sell +/- x%.

In fact, it would be almost impossible to make a profit with CAT without setting the right price limit, unless a) the price is moving in just one direction or b) you let CAT do just one pin-pong.

Btw, a Stop Loss rule only affects Pong orders, never Ping. Thats what Price Limits are for.

Many thanks for your explanation. I will play a little bit with the Price Limit section.

[Ares~]

Hi Sampey, I tried to send you a PM but not sure if it went through to you?

*EDIT* Ok see they did go through, sorry for sending 2 messages, thought first one did not go through

[whitenz]

Hi Sanpey. A proposed feature for your ToDo list.

The combination of a Min Gain % and a Price Limit % for the next Ping seems to work fine in a pure sideways moving market, both for long and short positions. However, markets rarely move in a pure sideways direction, where all highs and lows are at aproximately the same price. It is much more frequent to have slightly higher highs and lows or slightly lower highs and lows, so that additional to the oscilation of the price there is a certain trending component in the price movement. This forces the user to constantly adjust parameters to stay in the market range because otherwise at the end you order gets outside the market with the risk of your Stop Loss rule being executed with a loss.

It would be great if you could add to the Price Limit rule generator an additional variable component, lets call it a Trending Factor, that would add (or substract) to the defined price limit % an additional % calculated by CAT based on the trending component of the price during the last ping-pong lifecycle (or the last X minutes).

Let's put an example. Let's imagine a certain market price is ranging from $100 to $110 during a number of price oscillation movements. I would set up a Ping buy order at $100 with a Min Gain of 10% (expecting to pong sell at $110) and a Price Limit rule like "Never BUY OVER Your Last PONG SELL Price - 10%" ensuring the next Ping buy would be executed again at $100 (in real world things are not that easy, but this is just an example).

Lets imagine that after a certain number of successfull cycles the price trends up and starts ranging from $105 to $115. If CAT detects such a change in price range, where both highs and lows have moved up by 5%, it could modify the Price Limit rule by adding the same amount (5%) to the % limit and the next ping buy would execute at $105 instead of $100, which would  have never be executed in the new status of the market. The same applies if the market is trending down to range from $95 to $105. In this case the 5% would be substracted from the Price Limit %, so that the new ping buy would execute at $95, not at $100.

The trick is, of course, how to calculate the Trending Factor. I know exchanges do not provide long term historical price data, but all APIs have a command to retrieve the market history containing the price in the last N trades. Why not use this data to identify a trend a exploit this information? It could probably be enough to determine the maximum and minimum prices in the Market History and compare them with the values read during the last ping creation.

At the end the idea is to implement a certain self-adjusting mechanism that would enable you to stay in markets prices for a longer time.

A similar approach could be taken with the Min Gain %, where it could self-adjust to the spread between supports and resistances, but this is probably a bit more complex to implement.

I think this is what I was trying to reach with my previous question.

It would be a really nice addition.

[whitenz]

For those who might be interested, CAT runs beautifully on a Raspberry Pi 3.

I have had it running for a couple of days with no issues.

[whoisthismanoO]

Tomorrow i will launch the AUGUST OFFER
31 Days WITH BIG DISCOUNT Over a CAT Copy purchase 

Stay tuned!!!

Hi!
Im sorry, but I cant find any info about AUGUST OFFER. Where is it ?
Tnx.

[Sampey]

Tomorrow i will launch the AUGUST OFFER
31 Days WITH BIG DISCOUNT Over a CAT Copy purchase 

Stay tuned!!!

Hi!
Im sorry, but I cant find any info about AUGUST OFFER. Where is it ?
Tnx.

Hi, i still haven't found the time to write about that.
But if you write me a PM with the API you need i will calculate the discount price in real time 

[visud]

CAT 5.1 not allowing me to login in to poloniex, when i check the excahnge error log..  it see " ONE MORE STEP

Please complete the security check to proceed ". so polo is expecting me to solve captha and cat doesn't support it .. I am very much worried 

[Sampey]

CAT 5.1 not allowing me to login in to poloniex, when i check the excahnge error log..  it see " ONE MORE STEP

Please complete the security check to proceed ". so polo is expecting me to solve captha and cat doesn't support it .. I am very much worried 

No it's not "CAT doesn't support it"
It's "Poloniex must not return this error on API Side"
CAT is performing a Json Http Call to api system and api system must return a response.
Poloniex rarely returns (i don't know why, but i'm sure it's a problem on their side) an HTLM Page!!
I don't know how it's possible to manage that htlm page, get an image, solve the captha and send the result to poloniex. This is something not expected from the API system.

I suggest you to open a ticket and ask them how to solve this problem.

[Su100]

I have been trying to use 5.1.

Almost every hour I get a market turned into red.

How do I solve the issue?

[Su100]

I will try to re-set all those trades on old 5.0 this night.

Why do you always have to come up with a new version which has more bugs than the old version?
The only thing CAT does really cool is that it will create a buy order once coins gets sold and vice versa.

Babysitting the cat has always been a pain in the ass, but 5.1 with the markets getting zombie would require me to hire a new person to manage that.


Please dont ask whats not working correctly, you know it all.
Orders dont get correctly placed in the orderbook once a pong gets created (it only skip the e.g. 20% and then does not skip the orderbook), limiting the buy pool doesnt work ( i ended up trading with with over 0.1 BTC on a market althoug I have set to reuse 50% and started with 0.01 BTC (5.1), Polo doesnt load the whole orderbook (since ever), etc...

PS: Now, it is true you are always available for support, that is what I can confirm. However, isnt it more relaxing to have a cool product working rather than spend tons of hours solving things in a role of "customer service"? Which in many cases end up "Its not cat fault, its this or that, cat is fine". If such issues occurs in my company, I acknowledge the origins of problem and get a mechanism built to avoid negative interference from the third party to my products. In cat case that would be like delaying API calls etc.

You are like the government:) Invest the minimum effort needed to keep the things somewhat working so people are not bitching too much and pay taxes.

I hope this negative feedback enriches you

[Sampey]

Why do you always have to come up with a new version which has more bugs than the old version?

Not true, i always fix problems and add features.

Please dont ask whats not working correctly, you know it all.

Well no, i don't know.
I know that during the latest month many exchanges got problems in API system because they are not able to manage the increasing call request.

Orders dont get correctly placed in the orderbook once a pong gets created (it only skip the e.g. 20% and then does not skip the orderbook), limiting the buy pool doesnt work ( i ended up trading with with over 0.1 BTC on a market althoug I have set to reuse 50% and started with 0.01 BTC (5.1), Polo doesnt load the whole orderbook (since ever), etc...

If you have problems you can send me logs and describe me which problem has occured.
As i remember i never received a log from you when there was a problem on CAT side. Usually it was a problem on Exchange side.
Show me a log where the buy/sell pool limit doesn't works, or when an order is not correctly placed.
Give me a list of all the problems and i will check one by one.

If such issues occurs in my company, I acknowledge the origins of problem and get a mechanism built to avoid negative interference from the third party to my products.

When problems occurs on the other side (Exchange) there are problems that could be managed and some others have zombie status as consequences.

In cat case that would be like delaying API calls etc.

there's an option to do that.

I hope this negative feedback enriches you

As i told you, if you have a problem i need logs and explanation about your problem.
Otherwise i won't be able to solve it.
First of all it's important to understand if the problem is :
- A Cat problem
- An exchange problem.
- An error from the user

Actually in my "TODO LIST" there's only 1 Error to FIX. So if you think CAT is full of problems i suggest you to explain me/show me this problems. Otherwise 5.2....5.3...5.X version will always have the problems you are talking about.

One last thing : If CAT doesn't fit your needs or you don't like it more, there's a rule in the Term of service that allows you to sell your copy.
It is your right to do that.

Thanks for your post.

[Sampey]

@Su100

As i can see from the image you're trading on Yobit.

If you open one zombie log (i mean you open the txt file from CAT_5.2\CATSystem\YoBit\MarketLogs) and search for "****" String you will find all the (Managed) Error that occurs.
Errors written this way
***************
* ERROR            *
***************
Are usually bad errors that comes from an unexpected behaviour from the exchange.

You will probably find that The Order is not more available on the exchange AND no trade is found.

Example :

You place an order SELL 100@X
CAT search for this order every lookup and search for trades over this order every lookup
If a trade is found then a pong is created.
If the sum of trades is = order Qty then the order if full close.

BUT what happens if
- Order is no more on the exchange
AND
- No Trade is found?

this is an anomaly on server side because when exchange works good you will have all the trades related to an order and when the order is no more available it means that a final trade occured.

There's a solution, but it's risky :

- Change the ADVANCED OPTION : Find Trades Using Current Order QTY VS Previous (DEfault on yobit is My Trades Api Call).
This way, CAT will works only using Order Current QTY VS Previous QTY and if this value changes then it will automatically consider a Trade event.

this is risky because when exchanges offer the API call "MyTrades" it should not happens that order is no more active but no trades happens.
So the risk is that no trade occurs on the exchange but you tell cat "consider the fact that order is no more available as a final trade".

This could avoid a lot of zombie status. Especially when exchange api system gives problems like this one.

Let me know if it works.
If you want just send me 2-3 zombie logs and i will verify what happens.

Thanks 

[Su100]

How do I avoid cat getting a zombie status on a market that conducted a trade?





I emailed you the log.
There is a 5.2? I switched to 5.0 from 5.1 as I didnt do anything else but restoring red markets all day long.

[Ryker1]

Hi may i know whats the current price of this bot?