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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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June 20, 2023, 11:25:11 PM
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The first game is pretty obvious; Blackwater is the favorite, so it's easy to follow that assumption.

Same here, I do expect that but referring to the current odds provided by local bookies, Brgy. Ginebra is still listed as a Favorite despite Blackwater's good run this PBA on-tour. The Moneyline odds are distant too where it's like the supposed odds on the actual conference lol.

I don't know the basis though I tried to look for the current status of both teams' rosters but found nothing e.g injury list, unavailable players, etc.

Ginebra @ 1.63
BlackWater @ 2.14


However, in the second game, TNT might be the slight favorite, but Converge is also a good team.

The first time I see TNT with the super underdog odds. Only on PBA On-Tour. Cheesy

Converge @ 1.16
TNT @ 4.65

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June 21, 2023, 05:34:51 AM
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The first time I see TNT with the super underdog odds. Only on PBA On-Tour. Cheesy

Converge @ 1.16
TNT @ 4.65


What the heck! With those odds, it clearly indicates that TNT has no chance of winning. I believe there are still bettors who might fall for that trap. I mean, TNT is offering a 4.56 return on money, which is incredibly attractive. If bettors don't consider the available players, they are likely to make mistakes.
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June 21, 2023, 07:20:03 AM
 #11683

The first game is pretty obvious; Blackwater is the favorite, so it's easy to follow that assumption.

Same here, I do expect that but referring to the current odds provided by local bookies, Brgy. Ginebra is still listed as a Favorite despite Blackwater's good run this PBA on-tour. The Moneyline odds are distant too where it's like the supposed odds on the actual conference lol.

I don't know the basis though I tried to look for the current status of both teams' rosters but found nothing e.g injury list, unavailable players, etc.

Ginebra @ 1.63
BlackWater @ 2.14


It's just the name i think why they are listed as the favorite  Grin but i doubt if they will take this games seriously as it might cause them injury so with that i'll go with Blackwater ML @2.01 and +3.5 @1.83. Sadly, this local bookies of ours offers odds which a bit lower than that of crypto bookies and no boosters as well.

However, in the second game, TNT might be the slight favorite, but Converge is also a good team.
The first time I see TNT with the super underdog odds. Only on PBA On-Tour. Cheesy
Converge @ 1.16
TNT @ 4.65


TNT Katropa is still winless in this tournament, that might be the reason of that odds while Converge is still fresh from that upset win over SMB the other day, morale booster for them but i'm betting for TNT +11.5 @.187 here. This is a very risky bet but hope the trend still continues this time around, might be Converge will win but not cover the spread.

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June 21, 2023, 07:31:58 AM
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TNT Katropa is still winless in this tournament, that might be the reason of that odds while Converge is still fresh from that upset win over SMB the other day, morale booster for them but i'm betting for TNT +11.5 @.187 here. This is a very risky bet but hope the trend still continues this time around, might be Converge will win but not cover the spread.

If I remember correctly, you lost your bet on TNT when they played against Magnolia. Now, you are risking your money again on them. Well, that's really risky, but we never know the outcome. Perhaps they will play harder and break their cold streak. Are you also considering betting on the moneyline?
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June 21, 2023, 07:42:26 AM
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TNT Katropa is still winless in this tournament, that might be the reason of that odds while Converge is still fresh from that upset win over SMB the other day, morale booster for them but i'm betting for TNT +11.5 @.187 here. This is a very risky bet but hope the trend still continues this time around, might be Converge will win but not cover the spread.

If I remember correctly, you lost your bet on TNT when they played against Magnolia. Now, you are risking your money again on them. Well, that's really risky, but we never know the outcome. Perhaps they will play harder and break their cold streak. Are you also considering betting on the moneyline?

Yeah, i lost big time on that one but it is against Magnolia who at the moment sits at the top of the standings in this PBA on tour but against Converge who is 2-3 in standing i think and i hope that they will not be blown out of this game. I've said that i won't bet against Magnolia because for me they are treating every game seriously IMO.

I'm pushing the button for the ML odds for TNT but it's weird that its not process or maybe they don't want me to bet for that odds hehe.

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June 21, 2023, 09:27:57 AM
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It seems that the underdog's run will come to an end soon. In the first game, we have Blackwater versus Ginebra, and Ginebra is already leading by double digits. Considering that Ginebra is a very dangerous team when they take an early lead, I don't believe Blackwater will be able to make a comeback.

As for the next game, good luck kabayan! TNT really needs a win to break their winless streak, so I might join you in supporting them.
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June 21, 2023, 10:03:07 AM
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TNT Katropa is still winless in this tournament, that might be the reason of that odds while Converge is still fresh from that upset win over SMB the other day, morale booster for them but i'm betting for TNT +11.5 @.187 here. This is a very risky bet but hope the trend still continues this time around, might be Converge will win but not cover the spread.

If I remember correctly, you lost your bet on TNT when they played against Magnolia. Now, you are risking your money again on them. Well, that's really risky, but we never know the outcome. Perhaps they will play harder and break their cold streak. Are you also considering betting on the moneyline?

Yeah, i lost big time on that one but it is against Magnolia who at the moment sits at the top of the standings in this PBA on tour but against Converge who is 2-3 in standing i think and i hope that they will not be blown out of this game. I've said that i won't bet against Magnolia because for me they are treating every game seriously IMO.

I'm pushing the button for the ML odds for TNT but it's weird that its not process or maybe they don't want me to bet for that odds hehe.

They might have sensed something in this game. I now believe that TNT has a chance of winning here, so I guess I will also try betting on the moneyline. The game will start at 7:30 PM, and there's still time to deposit. Hopefully, this bet will push through.
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June 21, 2023, 10:53:31 AM
Last edit: June 21, 2023, 11:35:49 AM by bisdak40
 #11688

It seems that the underdog's run will come to an end soon. In the first game, we have Blackwater versus Ginebra, and Ginebra is already leading by double digits. Considering that Ginebra is a very dangerous team when they take an early lead, I don't believe Blackwater will be able to make a comeback.

Seven minutes into the fourth quarter and it is now a close game kabayan, 67-65, Ginebra hanging to that two-point lead and anytime from now, Blackwater might take the lead and win the game and the trend still continues.

edit:

Damn, is that Tyron Hill who missed his two free that could have given the Blackwater the win hehe. Anyways, still a little profit for me as my other bet of +3.5 won while during the live game, i noticed that all who played for Ginebra were bench players/relievers so i added a bet for "under 185.5 @1.78" as i think this would be a low scoring ball game and indeed it was hehe.

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June 21, 2023, 11:56:22 AM
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Damn, is that Tyron Hill who missed his two free that could have given the Blackwater the win hehe. Anyways, still a little profit for me as my other bet of +3.5 won while during the live game, i noticed that all who played for Ginebra were bench players/relievers so i added a bet for "under 185.5 @1.78" as i think this would be a low scoring ball game and indeed it was hehe.

That was him. They could have won the game if he had been clutch and made 2 free throws, or at least 1 free throw to bring the game to overtime. But despite what happened, Blackwater was still able to cover the spread, I believe, and it was a very low-scoring game. I believe there are big winners from that game.

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June 21, 2023, 12:32:22 PM
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It seems that the underdog's run will come to an end soon. In the first game, we have Blackwater versus Ginebra, and Ginebra is already leading by double digits. Considering that Ginebra is a very dangerous team when they take an early lead, I don't believe Blackwater will be able to make a comeback.

Seven minutes into the fourth quarter and it is now a close game kabayan, 67-65, Ginebra hanging to that two-point lead and anytime from now, Blackwater might take the lead and win the game and the trend still continues.

edit:

Damn, is that Tyron Hill who missed his two free that could have given the Blackwater the win hehe. Anyways, still a little profit for me as my other bet of +3.5 won while during the live game, i noticed that all who played for Ginebra were bench players/relievers so i added a bet for "under 185.5 @1.78" as i think this would be a low scoring ball game and indeed it was hehe.

Crucial FT in OT wow, both attempts missed something that might give you your terrific run placing bets with the underdog, I guess it's the experienced that gives him the pressure, even just one and push the game to another OT but luck is with the Gin kings fans, but not sure if many will bite the ML, and another sure deal is when you will place your bet with a handicap that can lead you to a lost since Ginebra only win the game by 1 point.

Congrats with your other pick. Good thing that you are actively watching and you still manage to add more bets before the game ends.

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June 22, 2023, 10:48:03 AM
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Crucial FT in OT wow, both attempts missed something that might give you your terrific run placing bets with the underdog, I guess it's the experienced that gives him the pressure, even just one and push the game to another OT but luck is with the Gin kings fans, but not sure if many will bite the ML, and another sure deal is when you will place your bet with a handicap that can lead you to a lost since Ginebra only win the game by 1 point.

Congrats with your other pick. Good thing that you are actively watching and you still manage to add more bets before the game ends.

Just a break-even on last night's bet as TNT doesn't stand a chance against Converge, they were blown into pieces. Looking at the lineup of TNT who played last night, it was only Marcelo, Khobuntin, and Rosser whom I have known while the rest were practice players while on the Converge side, all of the players were playing if I'm not wrong so we better watch out whenever TNT plays next time.

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June 22, 2023, 11:07:33 AM
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Crucial FT in OT wow, both attempts missed something that might give you your terrific run placing bets with the underdog, I guess it's the experienced that gives him the pressure, even just one and push the game to another OT but luck is with the Gin kings fans, but not sure if many will bite the ML, and another sure deal is when you will place your bet with a handicap that can lead you to a lost since Ginebra only win the game by 1 point.

Congrats with your other pick. Good thing that you are actively watching and you still manage to add more bets before the game ends.

Just a break-even on last night's bet as TNT doesn't stand a chance against Converge, they were blown into pieces. Looking at the lineup of TNT who played last night, it was only Marcelo, Khobuntin, and Rosser whom I have known while the rest were practice players while on the Converge side, all of the players were playing if I'm not wrong so we better watch out whenever TNT plays next time.
Don't stop rooting for TNT as they continue to chase their victory. The last game against Converge was a blowout loss for them, especially in the 3rd quarter when they only scored 15 points. They clearly struggled with their scoring. TNT is known for their high-scoring games, so it's evident that they face difficulties when they can't reach at least 100 points.
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June 22, 2023, 11:31:54 AM
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Crucial FT in OT wow, both attempts missed something that might give you your terrific run placing bets with the underdog, I guess it's the experienced that gives him the pressure, even just one and push the game to another OT but luck is with the Gin kings fans, but not sure if many will bite the ML, and another sure deal is when you will place your bet with a handicap that can lead you to a lost since Ginebra only win the game by 1 point.

Congrats with your other pick. Good thing that you are actively watching and you still manage to add more bets before the game ends.

Just a break-even on last night's bet as TNT doesn't stand a chance against Converge, they were blown into pieces. Looking at the lineup of TNT who played last night, it was only Marcelo, Khobuntin, and Rosser whom I have known while the rest were practice players while on the Converge side, all of the players were playing if I'm not wrong so we better watch out whenever TNT plays next time.

Yeah right, there's nothing that they can do as Converge over-dominated them, winning from 1st-4th quarters, nothing that TNT's
practice players can do to stop and make a good rally. Converge is a full force as you mentioned and they are really playing good defense
not to allow TNT players to close the gap.

Still good for you as you manage to break-even with your other picks, just go on and continue the chase it adding more thrill
and entertainment while watching the games.

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June 22, 2023, 11:38:00 AM
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Still good for you as you manage to break-even with your other picks, just go on and continue the chase it adding more thrill
and entertainment while watching the games.
Tomorrow, the games will resume with two matchups. In the first game, it's DYIP versus Phoenix. The question is, will DYIP be able to continue their hot streak? They are likely to be the underdog in this game, so let's see if they can continue to bring joy to bettors.

In the second game, it's Magnolia versus Northport. Can Magnolia maintain their undefeated record?

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June 22, 2023, 03:00:05 PM
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Crucial FT in OT wow, both attempts missed something that might give you your terrific run placing bets with the underdog, I guess it's the experienced that gives him the pressure, even just one and push the game to another OT but luck is with the Gin kings fans, but not sure if many will bite the ML, and another sure deal is when you will place your bet with a handicap that can lead you to a lost since Ginebra only win the game by 1 point.

Congrats with your other pick. Good thing that you are actively watching and you still manage to add more bets before the game ends.

Just a break-even on last night's bet as TNT doesn't stand a chance against Converge, they were blown into pieces. Looking at the lineup of TNT who played last night, it was only Marcelo, Khobuntin, and Rosser whom I have known while the rest were practice players while on the Converge side, all of the players were playing if I'm not wrong so we better watch out whenever TNT plays next time.

Yeah right, there's nothing that they can do as Converge over-dominated them, winning from 1st-4th quarters, nothing that TNT's
practice players can do to stop and make a good rally. Converge is a full force as you mentioned and they are really playing good defense
not to allow TNT players to close the gap.

Still good for you as you manage to break-even with your other picks, just go on and continue the chase it adding more thrill
and entertainment while watching the games.
About the matchup between the Converge and TNT I am quite surprised about the performance of the Converge as we saw that TNT can't even tie the game cause converge have the momentum and once TNT try to even the score then Converge make a way that  TNT won't surpassed in the game. And that's what really happened and in the end of 4rth and final quarter Converge wln the game and they have now a 3-3 standing which is pretty Good in the start..
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June 22, 2023, 05:40:24 PM
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Still good for you as you manage to break-even with your other picks, just go on and continue the chase it adding more thrill
and entertainment while watching the games.
Tomorrow, the games will resume with two matchups. In the first game, it's DYIP versus Phoenix. The question is, will DYIP be able to continue their hot streak? They are likely to be the underdog in this game, so let's see if they can continue to bring joy to bettors.

In the second game, it's Magnolia versus Northport. Can Magnolia maintain their undefeated record?

No available odds yet, but I guess that's a good question if DYIP will continue their great performances, if they will again serve as underdog taking handicap may give you some good chance , just my take from this upcoming game, while in the 2nd game maybe Mags will continue but handicap might be tough, we really can't tell if how the coach and players will take the game more on luck I guess, or if you have a good insider hahaha..

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June 23, 2023, 11:28:03 AM
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No available odds yet, but I guess that's a good question if DYIP will continue their great performances, if they will again serve as underdog taking handicap may give you some good chance , just my take from this upcoming game, while in the 2nd game maybe Mags will continue but handicap might be tough, we really can't tell if how the coach and players will take the game more on luck I guess, or if you have a good insider hahaha..

DYIP lost to Phoenix by 12 points with a score of 104-92, I thought that they will close the gap as it was only 6 points with 3 minutes to go in the game, that's from a high of 21 points led by Phoenix but they run out of time and lost by double-digit. Is the run of the underdogs over guys, let us see in the second game as I have NorthPort +14.5 @.86, hope that this game will be close.



Hope i will win on the second game to have a break-even night on the PBA.  Smiley

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June 23, 2023, 11:40:09 AM
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Hope i will win on the second game to have a break-even night on the PBA.  Smiley

I have Northport as well, but I got them at +12.5 with odds of 1.85. I placed the bet during the live game because I missed the pregame odds. Hopefully, Magnolia will start to ease off a bit and stop dominating teams. It's alright if they win, as long as Northport is able to cover the spread.
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June 23, 2023, 12:04:09 PM
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Hope i will win on the second game to have a break-even night on the PBA.  Smiley

I have Northport as well, but I got them at +12.5 with odds of 1.85. I placed the bet during the live game because I missed the pregame odds. Hopefully, Magnolia will start to ease off a bit and stop dominating teams. It's alright if they win, as long as Northport is able to cover the spread.
Magnolia is still rolling, and let's hope Northport can make a comeback in the second half. It seems like Magnolia is determined to take every game seriously, even if it's just an exhibition game. They have showcased their dominance against a weaker team. However, there is still plenty of time left. The first half is about to end, and there's another half to play after the break.

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Hope i will win on the second game to have a break-even night on the PBA.  Smiley

I have Northport as well, but I got them at +12.5 with odds of 1.85. I placed the bet during the live game because I missed the pregame odds. Hopefully, Magnolia will start to ease off a bit and stop dominating teams. It's alright if they win, as long as Northport is able to cover the spread.
Magnolia is still rolling, and let's hope Northport can make a comeback in the second half. It seems like Magnolia is determined to take every game seriously, even if it's just an exhibition game. They have showcased their dominance against a weaker team. However, there is still plenty of time left. The first half is about to end, and there's another half to play after the break.
It seems like there won't be an underdog winner today. Magnolia will win the game by a huge margin. I think it's already over, with the final score being 125-89. Even if there's a +25 point difference, it still won't be enough to win. I thought they would give Northport a chance to at least make it an entertaining game, but the runs in the 3rd and 4th quarters were just too much.

Anyway, I hope you bounce back next time, @bisdak40.

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