Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia.

[galdur]

Taking psychopathic mobsters and their warmongering bunk seriously can have extremely grave consequences.

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[galdur]

I think it´s time to face reality.

The Donbass will never be part of Ukraine again unless the mob and its nazi pals exterminate everyone there. And that is likely what they´ll continue trying to do unfortunately. Experience shows that this junk heap will stop at nothing.

[galdur]

Mob appoints boil on its own ass to head advisory council

On Friday, Ukraine’s President Petro Poroshenko announced that Saakashvili, known for his strong anti-Russian stance, would head the Advisory International Council of Reforms. The newly-created body is supposed to "increase the level of international support to Ukraine," Poroshenko’s office said in a news release.

In his capacity as a non-staff advisor to Ukraine’s president, former Georgian leader Mikheil Saakashvili will reportedly coordinate the delivery of weapons from the Western countries to Ukraine.

Saakashvili, who resides in the US, served as Georgian president from 2004 until 2013, when he was barred from seeking another presidential term. His rule was largely criticized at home for authoritarianism, and a 2012 prison torture scandal dealt a heavy blow to his approval ratings. In summer 2014, a Georgian court charged him with abuse of power and misappropriation of public funds.

[BitMos]

sometimes weakness is necessary to achieve peace, but if peace is betrayed (remember there is NO WAY to trust the USMIIC right now), but their puppets on ground aren't Americans, so let's hope... Do the Ukies get they were fucked?

[Nemo1024]

I think it´s time to face reality.

The Donbass will never be part of Ukraine again unless the mob and its nazi pals exterminate everyone there. And that is likely what they´ll continue trying to do unfortunately. Experience shows that this junk heap will stop at nothing.

American politologist Lendman predicts that USA will deploy ground troops in Donbass:
Obama's 'Big Lie': US Has Supplied Ukraine With Arms From the Start
http://sputniknews.com/analysis/20150215/1018289444.html

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“Washington supplied heavy weapons since the conflict began last April and maybe before it began in preparation for what was planned. I wrote about it several times including in a new article this (Saturday) morning,” he told Sputnik.

“So, key is understanding that Washington armed Kiev the whole time. Obama claiming it's under consideration is one of his many 'Big Lies'," he said.

NATO and Ukrainian aircraft have shipped in arms and munitions on a regular basis. Washington is the main culprit, he added.

'Arms Supplied by US Are for Offense, Not Defense'

Another lie, the analyst says, is about the arms being “defensive."

“Heavy weapons are supplied for offense, not defense, of course,” he says. “Fighting continued after the Minsk agreement was concluded. Kiev forces kept shelling civilian areas.”

...

“I expect a short-term mostly (but not entirely) quieter period beginning Sunday or Monday followed days or weeks later by Kiev initiated escalated conflict — with full US support and encouragement,” he predicts.

...

“I believe if rebels keep decisively defeating Kiev forces, which I expect, Obama will deploy US forces to Donbas — getting America directly involved in another war as opposed to the proxy one he's now waging,” said Lendman.

That's also my cautiously pessimistic view on the state of affairs now...

Mob appoints boil on its own ass to head advisory council

Georgian Foreign Ministry called in Ukrainian ambassador to explain some facts of life, with regard to appointment of wanted Saakasshvili into the role of Poroshenko's advisor:
http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1768919

[Souldream]

Spoutnik ... Aka RIA Novosty ... changed the name to better fool people ...

Do you have another real "non propagand" website to confirm ? No of course... only Russia propaganda ... read only by Russia 

[Souldream]

Georgian Foreign Ministry called in Ukrainian ambassador to explain some facts of life, with regard to appointment of wanted Saakasshvili into the role of Poroshenko's advisor:
http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1768919

You speak about Georgia ... ha yes Russian Army "helped" the so called russian speaker ....

Where are your post about the wall build to divide the country ?

Where are your explanation why the Russian army is still there ... ? Hybrid invasion ...

When all is going bad ... better to build a big army like all faschist country ... soon Russia will go back as real communist , people die starved ... but hey we have a big army 

Refitting Soviet-era warships, fielding new aircraft and tanks and seeking new overseas bases, the Russian military that now has troops on alert amidst a crisis in Ukraine is more potent than the force which briefly fought Georgia six years ago.

Moscow is seriously investing in building its clout. Since 2008, it has raised military spending by almost a third and drastically reformed both the armed forces and defense industry to tackle post-Cold War decay.

But Russian forces remain much weaker than at their Soviet peak and face huge problems ranging from corruption to a long-term shortage of recruits, not to mention the risk of insurgency if they ever set foot in Ukraine.
 
 

Moscow denies any direct link between its surprise military drills announced on Wednesday and Ukraine, where largely pro-Western demonstrators ousted Viktor Yanukovich, an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, last weekend.

Nevertheless, the decision to put 150,000 troops on high alert along with jet fighters on Russia's Western borders - where Ukraine lies - raised memories of Putin's invasion of Georgia. Moscow's expressions of concern for the safety of Russian citizens in Ukraine have also used similar language to statements that preceded the Georgian campaign.

In that five-day war, Russian troops evicted their Georgian counterparts from the disputed regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. But the outdated forces suffered losses at the hands of the sometimes more technically advanced, Western-equipped Georgians, prompting soul-searching and criticism in Moscow.

Complaints included a lack of sophisticated radar, night vision and communications equipment. According to some accounts, three of the four Russian aircraft lost were downed by their own side.

London's Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) estimates defense spending rose 31 percent between 2008 and 2013 to $68.2 billion. Russia is now firmly established as the world's third-largest military spender behind the United States and China, and the chaos under President Boris Yeltsin, who stood down in 1999 to make way for Putin, is a thing of the past.

"There is a sense in the broader U.S. political discussion that Russia is still the basket case military of the Yeltsin era, but that is wrong," says Elbridge Colby, a former Pentagon official and now fellow at the Washington-based Centre for a New American Security. "(It) is not the Red Army of the 1970s but it has made considerable strides."

While Russian officials say Moscow will not intervene in Ukraine, many Western analysts are skeptical about their assertions that the exercises are not linked to the crisis in the former Soviet republic. Russia's sabre rattling, they say, is another sign of its military confidence and willingness to use it to dominate those countries it once controlled.

"There is certainly an element of intimidation to it," says Dmitry Gorenburg, Russia specialist at the U.S. government-funded Centre for Naval Analyses, part of the not-for-profit CNA Corporation. "They have put a great deal of effort into military reforms since Georgia and some of it has worked. They probably do have a greater ability to intervene in Ukraine than they did then - it's not that big a step up."

While any actual invasion could initially succeed, he said Moscow might struggle in the face of a resultant insurgency. A more limited operation in majority Russian-speaking Crimea - already home to Russia's Black Sea Fleet - could prove more achievable but is also seen unlikely for now.

Russia says it is ready to work with the West on resolving the crisis but the interests of all Ukrainians must be taken into account. It accuses the new leaders in Kiev of violating a Western-backed peace deal and ignoring the interests of Russian-speakers.

SOPHISTICATED EXERCISES, GLOBAL DEPLOYMENTS

The wargames scheduled to last from Friday until next week are not the first of their kind. In September, the "Zapad-13" exercise in Belarus saw 10,000 Russian troops deployed along the border with the Baltic states, former Soviet republics which now belong to the European Union.

Another surprise exercise last July in Russia's east involved 160,000 troops and was seen by some as a reminder that Moscow also remains nervous about its border with China.

Both exercises involved a level of activity its forces would have been incapable of even five years ago, analysts say.

Russia is also asserting itself on the world stage. While its ability to send the army much beyond former Soviet borders seems limited, its warships have increased operations in the Arctic, Pacific, Baltic and Atlantic while returning to a near permanent presence in the Indian Ocean and Mediterranean for the first time in years. Russian long-range bombers are again periodically probing NATO airspace.

On Wednesday, defense minister Sergei Shoigu said Moscow was planning to expand its presence outside its borders with new military bases in a number of countries including Vietnam, Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, the Seychelles and even Singapore.

How viable these plans might be is unclear.

Since Georgia, Russia has abolished its cumbersome structure of undermanned divisions designed to fight on massive European fronts, replacing them with much more flexible smaller brigades and reducing the size of its officer corps by a third.

DEMOGRAPHIC, ECONOMIC PROBLEMS

The armaments industry was reorganized into a small number of largely state-owned firms, while Moscow promised that by 2020, 70 percent of its military equipment would be modernized.

It has also partnered French manufacturers in building helicopter carriers, other European firms on ground vehicles and Israeli specialists on unmanned drones.

In 2013, Russia began testing of its new Armata tank and hopes to acquire more than 2,000 over the next decade.

New SU-35 fighter jets are entering service as it also works on a new T-50 stealth fighter. Older Soviet warships are being upgraded and others entering construction.

According to IISS, Russia now operates one aircraft carrier, five cruisers, 18 destroyers, nine frigates and 82 coastal warships as well as 64 submarines - 11 carrying ballistic missiles. Its air force is believed to have about 1,400 combat capable aircraft.

The size of the army has long been unclear and Western analysts say boasts of one million men under arms have long been empty as Russia struggles to attract and retain conscripts and professional recruits. IISS estimates Russia has 845,000 military personnel with a largely theoretical reserve of 2 million people with recent military service.

How much further the military will grow is also unclear. Its 2013-30 State Defense Plan, experts say, appears based on 6 percent annual economic growth while actual growth in 2013 was under two percent.

Corruption remains a serious problem. In May 2011, Russia's chief military prosecutor acknowledged that as much as a fifth of state defense spending every year was stolen.

Demographics are also not going Russia's way. According the German Institute for International and Security Affairs (SWP), the number of 18 year-old men will fall from 1.1 million in 2007 to 630,000 by 2017, only two thirds of whom may be fit enough to serve.

Militarily, however, it still far outclasses Ukraine.

According to IISS, Kiev has 129,950 military personnel but has struggled to make its own military reforms. Aircraft availability and serviceability are low while its navy is struggling to repair its sole diesel electric submarine.

"Moscow's armed forces have already accomplished the organizational transition from mass mobilization army to modern combat force," analysts Margarete Klein and Kristian Pester wrote in a January report for Germany's SWP. "Greater military muscle flexing must be expected."

[galdur]

Nemo, it´s totally clear that most of this western mob crap is retarded and the rest certifiable but why do they let their Kiev puppet use that Saakashvili guy ? That sack of shit is going to gather support for those Kiev nazis ? Somehow I doubt that will work - unless he talks to retards and psychos only around the world.

[deisik]

Nemo, it´s totally clear that most of this western mob crap is retarded and the rest certifiable but why do they let their Kiev puppet use that Saakashvili guy ? That sack of shit is going to gather support for those Kiev nazis ? Somehow I doubt that will work - unless he talks to retards and psychos only around the world.

Birds of a feather flock together...

[galdur]

Nemo, it´s totally clear that most of this western mob crap is retarded and the rest certifiable but why do they let their Kiev puppet use that Saakashvili guy ? That sack of shit is going to gather support for those Kiev nazis ? Somehow I doubt that will work - unless he talks to retards and psychos only around the world.

Birds of a feather flock together...

Yeah I get that but why would they want to destroy what little they may have left of credibility by using that scum. That I don´t get.

[galdur]

I mean, come on the worst of this mob junk wants war because it would make them "feel better". Don´t remember which said that of the despicable corporate assets there in congress who just love to whore for their masters and their profitable wars..

[MichaelBliss]

Nemo, it´s totally clear that most of this western mob crap is retarded and the rest certifiable but why do they let their Kiev puppet use that Saakashvili guy ? That sack of shit is going to gather support for those Kiev nazis ? Somehow I doubt that will work - unless he talks to retards and psychos only around the world.

Birds of a feather flock together...

Yeah I get that but why would they want to destroy what little they may have left of credibility by using that scum. That I don´t get.

What "little credibility they have left"   ?  They never had any "credibility" or legitimacy.   

[galdur]

Nemo, it´s totally clear that most of this western mob crap is retarded and the rest certifiable but why do they let their Kiev puppet use that Saakashvili guy ? That sack of shit is going to gather support for those Kiev nazis ? Somehow I doubt that will work - unless he talks to retards and psychos only around the world.

Birds of a feather flock together...

Yeah I get that but why would they want to destroy what little they may have left of credibility by using that scum. That I don´t get.

What "little credibility they have left"   ?  They never had any "credibility" or legitimacy.   

Well, millions of people supposedly vote for these scumbags for some reason. I guess credibility has something to do with that.

Ah, now I remember who "would feel better" if Uncle Sam sent weapons to fuel the Ukraine war. Of course it was Miss Lindsey Graham

[MichaelBliss]

Nemo, it´s totally clear that most of this western mob crap is retarded and the rest certifiable but why do they let their Kiev puppet use that Saakashvili guy ? That sack of shit is going to gather support for those Kiev nazis ? Somehow I doubt that will work - unless he talks to retards and psychos only around the world.

Birds of a feather flock together...

Yeah I get that but why would they want to destroy what little they may have left of credibility by using that scum. That I don´t get.

What "little credibility they have left"   ?  They never had any "credibility" or legitimacy.   

Well, millions of people supposedly vote for these scumbags for some reason. I guess credibility has something to do with that.

Ah, now I remember who "would feel better" if Uncle Sam sent weapons to fuel the Ukraine war. Of course it was Miss Lindsey Graham

If your talking about the Kiev regime, they were installed not voted in, after a coup d'etat...  If your talking about Western governments in general, than maybe they have credibility in terms of representing their own people, but they have none when it comes to meddling in foreign countries.   Look what they've done to everything they've touched, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya...  Those were all catastrophes, so zero credibility there.

[galdur]

but they have none when it comes to meddling in foreign countries.   Look what they've done to everything they've touched, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya...  Those were all catastrophes, so zero credibility there.

Absolutely. Couldn´t agree more. But they let their puppet Poroshenko use their puppet Saakashvili to gather support in Europe for this war. Well, they couldn´t have picked a more hopeless salesman. Which has me wondering.

[bitgeek]

If your talking about the Kiev regime, they were installed not voted in, after a coup d'etat...  If your talking about Western governments in general, than maybe they have credibility in terms of representing their own people, but they have none when it comes to meddling in foreign countries.   Look what they've done to everything they've touched, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya...  Those were all catastrophes, so zero credibility there.

Same thing can be said about Russians, who love to put the pots that don't belong to them. They had their fun in Afghanistan too, then in Yugoslavia, Chechnya and of course Georgia.

[galdur]

If your talking about the Kiev regime, they were installed not voted in, after a coup d'etat...  If your talking about Western governments in general, than maybe they have credibility in terms of representing their own people, but they have none when it comes to meddling in foreign countries.   Look what they've done to everything they've touched, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya...  Those were all catastrophes, so zero credibility there.

Same thing can be said about Russians, who love to put the pots that don't belong to them. They had their fun in Afghanistan too, then in Yugoslavia, Chechnya and of course Georgia.

True, the Russians have invaded and bombed 50 countries around the world in the last decades and killed and maimed millions of people. And they have 700 military bases around the world, let´s not forget that.

[Balthazar]

They had their fun in Afghanistan

Yeah, of course. And then your lovely Democracy Promoters decided to "fix" it:



A bit later they have sent these charming Messengers of Peace to Chechnya and, after their asses were kicked, began to scream about violation of human rights.

of course Georgia.

When you guys will read the fucking OSCE reports? These reports were published in 3 volumes and describing in pretty clear words, who started this shit in Georgia and who was an aggressor there. If you can't read it then, maybe, it's time to go and learn the fucking alphabet?  

Chechnya

Oh, I see that your education issues are much worse than I previously thought. Maybe it's time to remember that Chechnya is not a foreign territory, but a federal subject of Russia? A federal subject, which was invaded by the foreign mercenaries.

It seems that learning the fucking alphabet won't be enough, you need to combine it with some fucking geography lessons.  Keep up your good work.  

[galdur]

Hehe, Nice one Balthazar 

[deisik]

If your talking about the Kiev regime, they were installed not voted in, after a coup d'etat...  If your talking about Western governments in general, than maybe they have credibility in terms of representing their own people, but they have none when it comes to meddling in foreign countries.   Look what they've done to everything they've touched, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya...  Those were all catastrophes, so zero credibility there.

Same thing can be said about Russians, who love to put the pots that don't belong to them. They had their fun in Afghanistan too, then in Yugoslavia, Chechnya and of course Georgia.

Ah-oh, did I miss something on Yugoslavia?