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January 14, 2015, 06:52:02 PM
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I logged into my SP10 tonight and on the settings page it indicates "over-clocking (socket voltage: 217)". Does anyone know why that's there? I never made any changes to it. I just clicked on turbo fans and that was it. I never made any modifications or anything.

Here are my voltage numbers if this means anything.

Fan Speed 80
Start volts top .664
Start volts bottom .664
Max voltage .75
Max power consumption 1260
DC2DC limit 62







you should underclock that miner, my SP10's all run at no more than 840w each and avg ~1.2TH/s each.
far more profitable.



They cannot be ran at home...they are co-located which adds a cost. The noise/heat alone they produce is profound and wouldn't even consider running them in my home. Even the SP20, still to loud for my tastes. I like my peace and quiet when I come home from work.

Considering bitcoin is $178 right now I'm just going to unplug them. They are costing more to run now. What really sucks is I shelled out $3000 ($2988) for each of them and they only ran for 7 months. Damn, I miss the days where you could setup 20 video cards and run them for over a year. Lots of people are probably losing money, doesn't seem like bitcoin is going to pump back up anytime soon, but just lower. What happens if it tanks to like $50? How can these large data centers keep running? Manufacture's have to have low ball prices if they want to sell anything I would imagine, unless the buyer has so much money they don't care losing some everyday.


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January 14, 2015, 07:28:14 PM
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I logged into my SP10 tonight and on the settings page it indicates "over-clocking (socket voltage: 217)". Does anyone know why that's there? I never made any changes to it. I just clicked on turbo fans and that was it. I never made any modifications or anything.

Here are my voltage numbers if this means anything.

Fan Speed 80
Start volts top .664
Start volts bottom .664
Max voltage .75
Max power consumption 1260
DC2DC limit 62







you should underclock that miner, my SP10's all run at no more than 840w each and avg ~1.2TH/s each.
far more profitable.



They cannot be ran at home...they are co-located which adds a cost. The noise/heat alone they produce is profound and wouldn't even consider running them in my home. Even the SP20, still to loud for my tastes. I like my peace and quiet when I come home from work.

Considering bitcoin is $178 right now I'm just going to unplug them. They are costing more to run now. What really sucks is I shelled out $3000 ($2988) for each of them and they only ran for 7 months. Damn, I miss the days where you could setup 20 video cards and run them for over a year. Lots of people are probably losing money, doesn't seem like bitcoin is going to pump back up anytime soon, but just lower. What happens if it tanks to like $50? How can these large data centers keep running? Manufacture's have to have low ball prices if they want to sell anything I would imagine, unless the buyer has so much money they don't care losing some everyday.



Price I cant argue it hurts miners for sure.

On can't run them at home would disagree.  You just need to have room for them.  Most miners are not something you would want in your living room.  I highlly suggest setting up area for miners if you have the room.
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January 14, 2015, 07:38:52 PM
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I doubt it. AM will have their new 28nm chips next month and the samples performed better than expected this time. Production of miners will swiftly follow.

While the samples performed better than expected I am still waiting to see the 24 chip board. Since friedcat hasn't shown it yet then I assume there are some problems with the design or he managed to burn all sample chips and that would mean that the production of the miners will not follow swiftly.

this.

it's always the way with AM, friedcat is forced to early release statistical data from all parts of the company to eager morons who don't even think about the mining itself and are too concerned by the value of the company (or at best - the value of the next batch of chips (which in turn gets funded towards the next round of chips and the share sell-offs are left in the - quite literally- *dust*)).
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I logged into my SP10 tonight and on the settings page it indicates "over-clocking (socket voltage: 217)". Does anyone know why that's there? I never made any changes to it. I just clicked on turbo fans and that was it. I never made any modifications or anything.

Here are my voltage numbers if this means anything.

Fan Speed 80
Start volts top .664
Start volts bottom .664
Max voltage .75
Max power consumption 1260
DC2DC limit 62





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you should underclock that miner, my SP10's all run at no more than 840w each and avg ~1.2TH/s each.
far more profitable.

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They cannot be ran at home...they are co-located which adds a cost. The noise/heat alone they produce is profound and wouldn't even consider running them in my home. Even the SP20, still to loud for my tastes. I like my peace and quiet when I come home from work.

Considering bitcoin is $178 right now I'm just going to unplug them. They are costing more to run now. What really sucks is I shelled out $3000 ($2988) for each of them and they only ran for 7 months. Damn, I miss the days where you could setup 20 video cards and run them for over a year. Lots of people are probably losing money, doesn't seem like bitcoin is going to pump back up anytime soon, but just lower. What happens if it tanks to like $50? How can these large data centers keep running? Manufacture's have to have low ball prices if they want to sell anything I would imagine, unless the buyer has so much money they don't care losing some everyday.


i don't run my sp10's at home. they are not a home miner.
Sp20 is too loudy, you don't want miners at home, ok.
hope to see you back mining at a later date mate.

it'll be good to see big mining farms follow your lead.

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January 14, 2015, 08:45:00 PM
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So I would like to ask.... Who is getting ready or who has turned their miner(s) off yet?  SP30/31/35 specifically?   



Curious to find out...


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So I would like to ask.... Who is getting ready or who has turned their miner(s) off yet?  SP30/31/35 specifically?   



Curious to find out...


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Didn't quite turn mine off since they are all three all ROIED but I did underclock them to use 50% power

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So I would like to ask.... Who is getting ready or who has turned their miner(s) off yet?  SP30/31/35 specifically?    



Curious to find out...


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I turned  off all C1, S3 and Rented out 2x S4

Only working miners is underclocked  NEPTUNE-s, are quiet and provide hot in the house
underclocked SP20 give back the price of electricity , and provide hot . The same as the purchase BTC
Antminer S5 give  0.4 BTC month. The same as the underclocked SP20
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January 14, 2015, 10:55:26 PM
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Guy : pls share your plan with your inventory. Are they mining to fund your new ASIC?
At this price, i cant imaging you're selling any.
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January 14, 2015, 11:03:15 PM
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I doubt it. AM will have their new 28nm chips next month and the samples performed better than expected this time. Production of miners will swiftly follow.

While the samples performed better than expected I am still waiting to see the 24 chip board. Since friedcat hasn't shown it yet then I assume there are some problems with the design or he managed to burn all sample chips and that would mean that the production of the miners will not follow swiftly.

this.

it's always the way with AM, friedcat is forced to early release statistical data from all parts of the company to eager morons who don't even think about the mining itself and are too concerned by the value of the company (or at best - the value of the next batch of chips (which in turn gets funded towards the next round of chips and the share sell-offs are left in the - quite literally- *dust*)).
bleh bleh bleh... remind me history disnae repeat itself?
aye it will.

raskul be nice.

my problem with am gear is a lot more simple it runs too hot and can burn up far too easy.

and I do not over clock.


price is now at 179 usd on coinbase.  If it flattens out above 120 usd and does not go under that I am  able to mine.

I would also think a big dip in the diff would have to follow a drop to 120usd  then- plateau at that level.

I have now stopped buying into the drop.

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Guy is a very informed person, and Sponds (I would suggest) are very much in this business for the long run.

BTC price is bad right now, might get worse ... even more worse ... but just look at the applications currently under development building off the blockchain and BTC. Months from now things will be rather 'interesting'.

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Guy is a very informed person, and Sponds (I would suggest) are very much in this business for the long run.

BTC price is bad right now, might get worse ... even more worse ... but just look at the applications currently under development building off the blockchain and BTC. Months from now things will be rather 'interesting'.



The current downward trend is most probably because the BFL sale due to court order.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2sdwf8/butterfly_labs_is_the_culprit/

They have 90K BTC more to sale. Then will come the rest of Silk Road coins...

http://www.coindesk.com/us-marshals-bitcoin-auction-q1/

Unless all these liquidity pass through, chances are less for a price rise. All these confiscated asset sales will disturb the price in 2015 unless some miraculous demand drive the price upward...

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January 14, 2015, 11:35:16 PM
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So I would like to ask.... Who is getting ready or who has turned their miner(s) off yet?  SP30/31/35 specifically?    



Curious to find out...


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Didn't quite turn mine off since they are all three all ROIED but I did underclock them to use 50% power

SP10 or SP3x? I don't see how a SP3x could ROI yet even if you had free electricity and sold at the best times. My SP30 have only paid off around 25% of its value and I was one of the first to get them in the august GB..

To answer the question, I paid for six months hosting so it doesn't make sense to turn them off before that time has expired.

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January 14, 2015, 11:58:26 PM
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So I would like to ask.... Who is getting ready or who has turned their miner(s) off yet?  SP30/31/35 specifically?    



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Didn't quite turn mine off since they are all three all ROIED but I did underclock them to use 50% power

SP10 or SP3x? I don't see how a SP3x could ROI yet even if you had free electricity and sold at the best times. My SP30 have only paid off around 25% of its value and I was one of the first to get them in the august GB..

To answer the question, I paid for six months hosting so it doesn't make sense to turn them off before that time has expired.

Right... I see the SP3x's ROI but I am unsure about the SP10 (unless you have large scale) at this point?  My opinion anyway... 

Difficulty is another thing..
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So I would like to ask.... Who is getting ready or who has turned their miner(s) off yet?  SP30/31/35 specifically?    



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Didn't quite turn mine off since they are all three all ROIED but I did underclock them to use 50% power

SP10 or SP3x? I don't see how a SP3x could ROI yet even if you had free electricity and sold at the best times. My SP30 have only paid off around 25% of its value and I was one of the first to get them in the august GB..

To answer the question, I paid for six months hosting so it doesn't make sense to turn them off before that time has expired.

Yes, I concur. I have no idea what OP is talking about (SP30 indeed did not ROI yet, but I wasn't expecting it at this point anyway).
I wonder how we all in bitcoin space will look in a few years (maybe ten): complete fools or those that did something meaningful re bitcoin that has a longer term value as a supposedly indestructible, rare, math-based asset.
I hope for the latter, but afraid that it might be the former.

OT: From my perspective, and talking only about ROI (there are other considerations here as well) and since I typically invest certain % in very risky assets, I am not entirely surprised by a large % loss. The risky assets are risky for a reason-abnormally high return possibility is typically associated with a large failure rate
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January 15, 2015, 12:12:25 AM
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Just like alot of people got rich trading bitcoin buy low and sell high when it was in hot demand.  But those who got on late held alot of baggage.  So losses have to be expected, as energy cannot be created or destroyed it is only changed from one form to another.
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January 15, 2015, 01:07:33 AM
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So I would like to ask.... Who is getting ready or who has turned their miner(s) off yet?  SP30/31/35 specifically?    



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Didn't quite turn mine off since they are all three all ROIED but I did underclock them to use 50% power

SP10 or SP3x? I don't see how a SP3x could ROI yet even if you had free electricity and sold at the best times. My SP30 have only paid off around 25% of its value and I was one of the first to get them in the august GB..

To answer the question, I paid for six months hosting so it doesn't make sense to turn them off before that time has expired.

I had my sp30 since in the first group buy recived the box around October and it has been mining since.  I paid around 4k for it and also recived a $950 or so coupon for my sp20 so I only paid around $200 for that machine.

I bought another sp20E for $800 or so in mid December to help with home heating.

The sp30 pulled in round $40 a day for October half of nov then in December it dropped down to $15-20 a day  Total BTC as of January.

How did I ROI? : due to the huge gains two days renting hash when paycoin POW launched then finally for the second half of that week mining paycoin directly I made a boatload of BTC that week around $2500 worth of BTC which put me in the green on all my miners.

Yes if not the paycoind deal I would not have ROIED till end of feb but it is what it is.

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So I would like to ask.... Who is getting ready or who has turned their miner(s) off yet?  SP30/31/35 specifically?    



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Didn't quite turn mine off since they are all three all ROIED but I did underclock them to use 50% power

SP10 or SP3x? I don't see how a SP3x could ROI yet even if you had free electricity and sold at the best times. My SP30 have only paid off around 25% of its value and I was one of the first to get them in the august GB..

To answer the question, I paid for six months hosting so it doesn't make sense to turn them off before that time has expired.

p.s I have never mined BTC directly I alaways point to westhash and if I see a coin is raising the price of hash rentals I turn off westhash and mine the coin directly.  Its the smartest thing to do.  I missed the first two days of paycoin actually I could have made a ton more if I had been paying attention to what westhash was sending me for my rentals that Saturday and sunday.

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January 15, 2015, 05:39:31 AM
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So I would like to ask.... Who is getting ready or who has turned their miner(s) off yet?  SP30/31/35 specifically?    



Curious to find out...


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Didn't quite turn mine off since they are all three all ROIED but I did underclock them to use 50% power

SP10 or SP3x? I don't see how a SP3x could ROI yet even if you had free electricity and sold at the best times. My SP30 have only paid off around 25% of its value and I was one of the first to get them in the august GB..

To answer the question, I paid for six months hosting so it doesn't make sense to turn them off before that time has expired.

p.s I have never mined BTC directly I alaways point to westhash and if I see a coin is raising the price of hash rentals I turn off westhash and mine the coin directly.  Its the smartest thing to do.  I missed the first two days of paycoin actually I could have made a ton more if I had been paying attention to what westhash was sending me for my rentals that Saturday and sunday.

please elaborate a bit, i totally missed this westhash/nicehash/paycoin opportunity

people just gave their hashing to paycoin by pointing miners to nicehash or westhash.
some opportunity!
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please elaborate a bit, i totally missed this westhash/nicehash/paycoin opportunity
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521520.msg9849837#msg9849837

Raskul wrote a tutorial here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=894826.msg9849580#msg9849580

Edgar,
You don't follow our thread closely enough ...

Edit: In the first few days, the return was 30X over BTC, afterwards 9X and it settled at about 3X up until the end of the POW period

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please elaborate a bit, i totally missed this westhash/nicehash/paycoin opportunity
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521520.msg9849837#msg9849837

Raskul wrote a tutorial here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=894826.msg9849580#msg9849580

Edgar,
You don't follow our thread closely enough ...

Edit: In the first few days, the return was 30X over BTC, afterwards 9X and it settled at about 3X up until the end of the POW period

That about sums it up thanks .

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However I did not learn about paycoin from this forum .. I regularly read the GAW hash talk forums as well as have a GAW account with Hashtalkers and primes so I knew about paycoin for months.

What I did not know is it would have a 1 week POW phase , and I found that out by luck actually when I wondered why my Westhash payouts were 300% from the previous day.

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