[ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs

[nexxypoo]

Can someone else who is having the SP30 hosted at Spond tell me if they have remote access to their machine?
I was always under the impression I would be able to make my own changes to pool info etc, but alas it appears that I have to use email and ask Spond techies to do it (when they can/have time/feel like it). Not the most ideal situation IMHO.

neX:)

If the customer insists, we're giving VPN and VLAN access to his/her machines. We don't monitor the machines afterwards.
Configuring remote access is an hassle for us and we try to avoid it. We don't simply do NAT forwarding, to protect other customers machines in case of unknown security breach in the firmware (eg heartbleed which we had and solved)

It's not an ideal solution.
We lack the resources to solve it in a better way (for example, cloud mirroring of the machines UI)

Guy

Fair enough, thanks for explaining it a bit more Guy.
I have to say im impressed with how quickly ive had responses to my couple of issues in the last 24hrs.

Thanks for the quick, straight-up response.

neX:)

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[wh00per]

Dear Bobsag,
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Send me a refund.

Who are you? When and where did you learn to post links? Why in the SPT thread?

[BitCoin Operated Boy]

Cointerra takes pre-orders for 4.5 TH/s AIRE Miner and it's sucking up only 1350 watts???
How's that possible

http://cointerra.com/product/aire-miner-bitcoin-miner/

I bet S-T will come up with something better than this

[opentoe]

...

Always pleasure to have another AM devotee in our little thread.

I must say, compare to his horde of zealots, FC in person is a great guy.

Usually, I would have asked abour dividends, but since AM gen4 is around the corner, it saves me the trouble.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirage

Beside, Athens is great and I have good mood.

Guy

What was the point of that little rant of yours? It is a fact that you can buy 3 AM Tubes + PSUs for less than you can buy an SP20 + PSU for. That's why you didn't even bother trying to deny it. You just rant about AM zealots coming here which is even funnier considering that you were actually trolling the AM thread yourself, have spouted lots of misleading nonsense over there and an actual zealot - RoadStress is still there making up crap and pretending its facts.

Talk about hypocrisy.

Instead of trying to create diversions, why not respond to the actual issue - the price of SP20 being far to high. If you don't like that fact, you actually have the ability to do something about it.

Spon-Tech is in sales mode. Trying to sell, sell, sell. Now that bitcoin is in the $300's and still dropping the prices even look higher. Plain and simple, there's no chance retail prices will ever get your mulaa back. Just buy some bitcoin if you believe it will come back up. What will take you a few minutes in buying some bitcoins will take you over year in mining the same amount. Why torture yourself?

[opentoe]

Because it's a major discussion in the S3 Thread:

Is Spondoolies-Tech using the latest version of cgminer (v4.6.0) in all their products?

We pull latest cgminer from github every time we build.

Spondoolies is the ONLY company remaining that is in sync with the mainline cgminer code and always push upstream any driver changes.

Only on their current/new hardware. My SP10 has an old 4.4.1 version still and that's the latest firmware. So that statement isn't entirely true. It runs just fine, I just thought that comment was a little off.

[Zelek Uther]

Because it's a major discussion in the S3 Thread:

Is Spondoolies-Tech using the latest version of cgminer (v4.6.0) in all their products?

We pull latest cgminer from github every time we build.

Spondoolies is the ONLY company remaining that is in sync with the mainline cgminer code and always push upstream any driver changes.

Only on their current/new hardware. My SP10 has an old 4.4.1 version still and that's the latest firmware. So that statement isn't entirely true. It runs just fine, I just thought that comment was a little off.

ckolivas' quote still holds - the latest Hammer ASIC (i.e. SP10) driver changes are in cgminer.

The SP10 doesn't need the latest version of cgminer unless there are security vulnerabilities that need fixing. (Are there some?)

[edgar]

Please be aware that the October Batch SP31 is nearly sold out and we may not be able to accept an order for that machine. We invite you to consider the 'November' SP35 or the 'October' SP20

October Yukons already Sold Out...

November (SP35) estimated shipping date...

SP20...

[ZiG]

Please be aware that the October Batch SP31 is nearly sold out and we may not be able to accept an order for that machine. We invite you to consider the 'November' SP35 or the 'October' SP20

October Yukons already Sold Out...

November (SP35) estimated shipping date...

SP20...

Are you working for SP-Tech...

ZiG

[grn]

Can someone else who is having the SP30 hosted at Spond tell me if they have remote access to their machine?
I was always under the impression I would be able to make my own changes to pool info etc, but alas it appears that I have to use email and ask Spond techies to do it (when they can/have time/feel like it). Not the most ideal situation IMHO.

neX:)

If the customer insists, we're giving VPN and VLAN access to his/her machines. We don't monitor the machines afterwards.
Configuring remote access is an hassle for us and we try to avoid it. We don't simply do NAT forwarding, to protect other customers machines in case of unknown security breach in the firmware (eg heartbleed which we had and solved)

It's not an ideal solution.
We lack the resources to solve it in a better way (for example, cloud mirroring of the machines UI)

Guy

Spondoolies tech solved heartbleed? wow I'm impressed. Thank you for securing all ecommerce. Did the ssl developers thank you?

[Zelek Uther]

My cellar project, a long time in the making, is finally complete now.

I can finally say: This facility is now fully operational.

Here's the video: 2x Spondoolies-Tech SP30 Yukon miners operating inside a quiet rack cabinet

Note 1:
I don't recommend running more than one SP30 in this quiet rack cabinet... the cabinet fans can't exhaust the heat quick enough, and the SP30s are thermally limited.
The cabinet can handle one SP30 plus one CoinCraft Desk 1TH/s unit - so a total of about 4kW, both units running at maximum hashrate. It may be able to handle a bit more heat, but I haven't tested that.

With two SP30s at just under 6kW the heat buildup inside means that the SP30s limit themselves thermally. If I run each SP30 by itself I get the full 4.5 TH/s. Together, I get around 8.2 TH/s, which means each machine is limiting itself by about 400 GH/s.
I haven't got any ideas at this stage on how to fix this, so I have accepted it. The SP30s still give the same excellent efficiency, the lower hashrate also equates to a lower power draw.

It is difficult to run these server-grade units at home. When I look at the perfect thermal environment that the Toomim Bros have created for their bitcoin miners, I have to take my hat off and admit: sometimes it's best to leave it to the pros.

Note 2:
Why did I buy this cabinet if it thermally limits miners?
The answer is that I started my cellar project earlier this year. The cabinet took about 3 months to get shipped from the UK. I purchased it before Spondoolies-Tech announced themselves to the bitcoin mining scene. Previous bitcoin mining equipment was much less dense in terms of kW per RU (rack unit), and so at the time the cabinet made sense.
I would recommend this cabinet for regular server gear, it does an amazing job of cutting out the noise.
I don't recommend it for bitcoin mining, it is not designed for the heat load. (Unless you only plan to run about 4kW of gear).

[Guy Corem]

Can someone else who is having the SP30 hosted at Spond tell me if they have remote access to their machine?
I was always under the impression I would be able to make my own changes to pool info etc, but alas it appears that I have to use email and ask Spond techies to do it (when they can/have time/feel like it). Not the most ideal situation IMHO.

neX:)

If the customer insists, we're giving VPN and VLAN access to his/her machines. We don't monitor the machines afterwards.
Configuring remote access is an hassle for us and we try to avoid it. We don't simply do NAT forwarding, to protect other customers machines in case of unknown security breach in the firmware (eg heartbleed which we had and solved)

It's not an ideal solution.
We lack the resources to solve it in a better way (for example, cloud mirroring of the machines UI)

Guy

Spondoolies tech solved heartbleed? wow I'm impressed. Thank you for securing all ecommerce. Did the ssl developers thank you?

Probably not worth a reply, but nevertheless.
Our firmware had the heartbleed bug, due to the use of OpenSSL. I gave an example why we decided early on not to give access not through separates VLANs, in order to prevent rogue miner from taking control of the entire DC.
Change "solved" to "patched".

Happy trolling,
Guy

[Guy Corem]

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I've noticed a pattern, you do your catch up (and venting) usually during the weekend.

You avoid reading the forum during the week?

Guy

[bobsmoke]

Hello All,

For those ones who have SP30 hosted on datacenters what is the temperature you are getting on the back? Did anyone got any issues with the rooms with so much hot air?
Did you faced any issues with air flow/temperature when the back door of the rack/cabinet is closed?

These are my current values:
Temp Front / Back T,B
20 °C / 70,46 °C
Socket Voltage
229/227 volt
Fan Speed
80
Start Voltage
0.67 / 0.67
Max Voltage
0.75
Max Watts
1330 / 1340

thx

[Biffa]

Hello All,

For those ones who have SP30 hosted on datacenters what is the temperature you are getting on the back? Did anyone got any issues with the rooms with so much hot air?
Did you faced any issues with air flow/temperature when the back door of the rack/cabinet is closed?

These are my current values:
Temp Front / Back T,B
20 °C / 70,46 °C
Socket Voltage
229/227 volt
Fan Speed
80
Start Voltage
0.67 / 0.67
Max Voltage
0.75
Max Watts
1330 / 1340

thx

No issues to state of. Cabinets open at the back.

Temp Front / Back T,B
23 °C / 72,73 °C
Socket Voltage
210/211 volt
Fan Speed
80
Start Voltage
0.67 / 0.67
Max Voltage
0.75
Max Watts
1330 / 1335

[RoadStress]

Temp Front / Back T,B
20 °C / 70,46 °C

70 degrees C is a good Back temperature, but the 46 one is strange. Is your bottom PCB working ok?

[RoadStress]

No, you took info posted by FC and twisted it into something totally different to suit your purpose. FC did not state that Tubes were not selling at all. Tubes hadn't even been announced at that point you raving lunatic.

I thought the Tubes are using the same BE200 chips that FC/AM is selling. I also thought that it's logical that if chips don't sell good considering there are so many distributors, manufacturers and an open source project the miner called Tube which uses the same chips will not sell good.

I'm not the one claiming to have such knowledge, you are. All I know is that Tubes are quite obviously selling since they're on the third batch. Canary must have sold at least 100 though based on the bitcoin address and the price in his group buy thread.

Canary as a distributor sold less units than what I had in my SP30 GB. I wouldn't brag with that number if I were him.

Also being on a third batch means nothing if you don't know how big are the batches. SP-Tech had 1k SP30 units in August and more in September. If Canary sold 100 units then the total number of the Tubes in the wild must be less than 1000. Not that much of a performance.

It shows no such thing. You don't need to post a comment in that thread to buy a Tube.

Sure, but compare it to the boom of the S3/S4 replies and you will definitely see a difference in popularity. If you have horse glasses and can't see the difference it's your problem, not mine.

I couldn't be arsed digging through all your past nonsense - you post too much. Why don't you take the hint and just stop posting shite in the AM thread. Nobody wants you there, nobody values your opinion and everyone thinks you are a Spondoolies shill and a troll.

If you are too lazy to back up your accusation then they are worthless and it's just your word against mine. I haven't posted shit in the AM thread. I wanted to open a discussion about how would the shareholders think it's possible for AM to gain 20%-30% of the total hashrate. The only replies that I got was just like yours. Angry shareholders complaining that I'm waking them up from their dream where FC provides huge dividends for everyone. But don't worry. You don't have to listen to me, reality will do its job better.

Well at least you've finally admitted you just troll AM threads. Why were you pretending earlier in this post then to want  honest conversation with AM shareholders. Another fucking lie! You just cant help yourself, hence the pathological liar. Do you know when you post those opinions you have which are based on flawed info and you try to pass them off as facts. That's called lying.

Read above and remember. Only 10 days left and my prediction of no dividends in September will become a FACT.

[bobsag3]

Hello All,

For those ones who have SP30 hosted on datacenters what is the temperature you are getting on the back? Did anyone got any issues with the rooms with so much hot air?
Did you faced any issues with air flow/temperature when the back door of the rack/cabinet is closed?

These are my current values:
Temp Front / Back T,B
20 °C / 70,46 °C
Socket Voltage
229/227 volt
Fan Speed
80
Start Voltage
0.67 / 0.67
Max Voltage
0.75
Max Watts
1330 / 1340

thx

Have about ~75 units running 23/71 front/back @ 220, max volts upped to .76

[bobsmoke]

Have about ~75 units running 23/71 front/back @ 220, max volts upped to .76

Thx Bobsag3 - If you dont mind answering - how many units do you have per cabinet? and do you use any special/customized way to extract the hot air (toom.im style)? or do you use normal datacenter closed-circuit air-conditioning system?

[Mabsark]

I thought the Tubes are using the same BE200 chips that FC/AM is selling. I also thought that it's logical that if chips don't sell good considering there are so many distributors, manufacturers and an open source project the miner called Tube which uses the same chips will not sell good.

Your thoughts and assumptions are not facts yet you continually try to pass them off as facts. This is an example of that. You initially said you got the info directly from FC and you now admit (after being called out on your bullshit) that you just made it up based on your own thoughts and assumptions.

Canary as a distributor sold less units than what I had in my SP30 GB. I wouldn't brag with that number if I were him.

Nobody is bragging. You asked for numbers, I provided you with some. Also, Canary's group buy ran for 1 month under very conditions than yours. How long did your group buy run for. How many Spondoolies miners have been sold through your affiliate link in the past month?

Also being on a third batch means nothing if you don't know how big are the batches. SP-Tech had 1k SP30 units in August and more in September. If Canary sold 100 units then the total number of the Tubes in the wild must be less than 1000. Not that much of a performance.

Again with your unfounded, illogical assumptions. Please provide some evidence to back them up.

Sure, but compare it to the boom of the S3/S4 replies and you will definitely see a difference in popularity. If you have horse glasses and can't see the difference it's your problem, not mine.

More unfounded assumptions. Also, you'll find the term you're looking for is rose-tinted glasses, not horse glasses.

If you are too lazy to back up your accusation then they are worthless and it's just your word against mine. I haven't posted shit in the AM thread. I wanted to open a discussion about how would the shareholders think it's possible for AM to gain 20%-30% of the total hashrate. The only replies that I got was just like yours. Angry shareholders complaining that I'm waking them up from their dream where FC provides huge dividends for everyone. But don't worry. You don't have to listen to me, reality will do its job better.

Are you really that stupid? You had a sig proclaiming Spondolies' miners to be the greatest and you were making posts in all the other manufacturers thread talking shit about them. And it's not just your word against mine. By your very own words in that paragraph, there are plenty of people who hold the same opinion of you as I do. You try to paint them as irrational shareholders and yourself as simply interrupting a circle jerk. And yet, in a previous comment here, you admit that you were just trolling them. See, you can't even keep your lies straight.

Read above and remember. Only 10 days left and my prediction of no dividends in September will become a FACT.

I've already made a nice profit from my AM shares, so I don't really care. For me, it's a long term investment, not a get-rich quick scheme. How much profit have you made from mining on Spondoolies equipment?

[RoadStress]

I thought the Tubes are using the same BE200 chips that FC/AM is selling. I also thought that it's logical that if chips don't sell good considering there are so many distributors, manufacturers and an open source project the miner called Tube which uses the same chips will not sell good.

Your thoughts and assumptions are not facts yet you continually try to pass them off as facts. This is an example of that. You initially said you got the info directly from FC and you now admit (after being called out on your bullshit) that you just made it up based on your own thoughts and assumptions.

It's not hard. If the chips aren't selling good then the miners using those chips will not sell any better. It's not an assumption, it's a fact! Yes I got the information abut the chips from FC and I gave you the quote that said that chips aren't selling so goo. What else do you want? If you, in your blinded shareholder mind think that the miners using BE200 chips will sell like hot cakes after the bare chips weren't selling then you are just lying yourself.

Nobody is bragging. You asked for numbers, I provided you with some. Also, Canary's group buy ran for 1 month under very conditions than yours. How long did your group buy run for. How many Spondoolies miners have been sold through your affiliate link in the past month?

My GB run for 2 weeks and I there were sold more than 100 units. Why are you comparing the units sold through my affiliate link with regular sales? Playing the old jimmothy cards I see where you are comparing apples with oranges.

Are you really that stupid? You had a sig proclaiming Spondolies' miners to be the greatest and you were making posts in all the other manufacturers thread talking shit about them. And it's not just your word against mine. By your very own words in that paragraph, there are plenty of people who hold the same opinion of you as I do. You try to paint them as irrational shareholders and yourself as simply interrupting a circle jerk. And yet, in a previous comment here, you admit that you were just trolling them. See, you can't even keep your lies straight.

Best $/Gh and W/GH at that time so I don't see where the problem is.

I've already made a nice profit from my AM shares, so I don't really care. For me, it's a long term investment, not a get-rich quick scheme. How much profit have you made from mining on Spondoolies equipment?

You, same as jimmothy, think that if YOU made a little profit out of the shares, then EVERYONE else did the same. You are wrong. Not everyone got the shares at IPO. People who got in when the prices were high will never make their ROI. You, same as jimmothy, are offering a solution that was ok for you in the past. You don't care about the other shareholders while I tried to offer something good for all miners now in the present and also in the future.

As always stop telling me about facts from the past. Tell me about the present and the future. If I were to buy AM shares right now when should I expect a ROI with the non-existing dividends? Bitcoin is moving extremely fast and we need to leave the past behind and always look into the future because we all boarded this crazy TGV train that doesn't lets us dream about the past performances and comparing to your AM shares that got you nothing in the last months, I had some nice income and I was able to spend money/bitcoin on stuff that I wanted while you were dusting your trapped idling shares.