[ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs

[Marvell1]

hey guys, planing to buy sp35, curently 5x ant s4. i cant find any reviews for them, can anyone say few words... can i overclock the sp35? are they stable? if i overclock how much power compsubtion will they need. the miners are ok, but i will not buy more of them. how are they compared to ant s5? thanks

off topic of your question, but sp35 runs only on 200-240V.

the sp20 right now is a way better deal than the larger miners since you get free shipping when you order over 3, also the hash rate is about the same.

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[Biodom]

Actually all houses in north america have 240.  They  only use  1 of the 2 phases to make  it output  115v for  safety  reasons.  

Using a double  pole breaker, combining 2 will make it 240. Choose correct  wire thickness   then  change receptacle outlet in wall to match plug.  The same as they do to  power household 240v items  like electric Stove. Dryer. Ac.  Furnace. Tankless  heaters.

I know its so simple and maybe $40 in parts!

Please don't do this unless you really know what you're doing. It's one thing to get a double pole breaker and run a new branch to a receptacle just for mining gear. It's entirely another to replace the receptacle on an existing circuit and converting it to 240V. That's extremely dangerous unless you know with certainty that there is nothing else attached to the line.

^^^exactly.

[wh00per]

Actually all houses in north america have 240.  They  only use  1 of the 2 phases to make  it output  115v for  safety  reasons.  

Using a double  pole breaker, combining 2 will make it 240. Choose correct  wire thickness   then  change receptacle outlet in wall to match plug.  The same as they do to  power household 240v items  like electric Stove. Dryer. Ac.  Furnace. Tankless  heaters.

I know its so simple and maybe $40 in parts!

Please don't do this unless you really know what you're doing. It's one thing to get a double pole breaker and run a new branch to a receptacle just for mining gear. It's entirely another to replace the receptacle on an existing circuit and converting it to 240V. That's extremely dangerous unless you know with certainty that there is nothing else attached to the line.

The easy answer is "Please don't do this." Period. Have an electrician to do it for you. The profession is regulated for a reason .. and if I were you .. I'd rather sleep at night.
To put it mildly, it's less firefighter effort this way.  

[MrTeal]

The easy answer is "Please don't do this." Period. Have an electrician to do it for you. The profession is regulated for a reason .. and if I were you .. I'd rather sleep at night.
To put it mildly, it's less firefighter effort this way.  

True in general. I left it open for the very few cases where it might be safe to do so, like if you wired in a dedicated 120V 20A circuit for your miners and now want to change it to be 240V (marking the white with tape at each end to stay in code, of course). Changing an existing circuit that you didn't install yourself and isn't dedicated would be a terrible idea though.

As for electrical changes in general, depends on your jurisdiction. Here a homeowner can do their own wiring; you just need to pull a permit and have the electrical inspector come out and take a look.
Not that he'd ever pass anything like what is being suggested here of course. I do all my own wiring, and other than needing an electrician once to hook up an unfused new service to the meter I've never had to call one out.

[Guy Corem]

hey guys, planing to buy sp35, curently 5x ant s4. i cant find any reviews for them, can anyone say few words... can i overclock the sp35? are they stable? if i overclock how much power compsubtion will they need. the miners are ok, but i will not buy more of them. how are they compared to ant s5? thanks

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521520.msg10080091#msg10080091

[wpgdeez]

hey guys, planing to buy sp35, curently 5x ant s4. i cant find any reviews for them, can anyone say few words... can i overclock the sp35? are they stable? if i overclock how much power compsubtion will they need. the miners are ok, but i will not buy more of them. how are they compared to ant s5? thanks

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521520.msg10080091#msg10080091

What does it pull from the wall running at 6thash? What are the PSU's rated for?

[Guy Corem]

hey guys, planing to buy sp35, curently 5x ant s4. i cant find any reviews for them, can anyone say few words... can i overclock the sp35? are they stable? if i overclock how much power compsubtion will they need. the miners are ok, but i will not buy more of them. how are they compared to ant s5? thanks

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521520.msg10080091#msg10080091

What does it pull from the wall running at 6thash? What are the PSU's rated for?

The PSUs are rated 1600 Watt (output, not "at the wall").
I don't know the pull from the wall in this case, it wasn't done by us. Should be considerably above 3.65 KW

[wpgdeez]

hey guys, planing to buy sp35, curently 5x ant s4. i cant find any reviews for them, can anyone say few words... can i overclock the sp35? are they stable? if i overclock how much power compsubtion will they need. the miners are ok, but i will not buy more of them. how are they compared to ant s5? thanks

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521520.msg10080091#msg10080091

What does it pull from the wall running at 6thash? What are the PSU's rated for?

The PSUs are rated 1600 Watt (output, not "at the wall").
I don't know the pull from the wall in this case, it wasn't done by us. Should be considerably above 3.65 KW

Isn't that pushing the PSU's a little hard? I'm surprised you don't do internal testing on your own before the product goes to market.

[Guy Corem]

hey guys, planing to buy sp35, curently 5x ant s4. i cant find any reviews for them, can anyone say few words... can i overclock the sp35? are they stable? if i overclock how much power compsubtion will they need. the miners are ok, but i will not buy more of them. how are they compared to ant s5? thanks

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521520.msg10080091#msg10080091

What does it pull from the wall running at 6thash? What are the PSU's rated for?

The PSUs are rated 1600 Watt (output, not "at the wall").
I don't know the pull from the wall in this case, it wasn't done by us. Should be considerably above 3.65 KW

Isn't that pushing the PSU's a little hard? I'm surprised you don't do internal testing on your own before the product goes to market.

The PSUs have over current limitations.
The PSU working point is approved by the manufacturer.
The amount of PSUs RMAs is negligible.
We do internal testing, thoroughly, as you very well aware.
We don't retest over clocking on every ASICs batch.

[bobsmoke]

Hello - Anyone by any chance has a script or alike that will monitor the SP's temperature overtime and is willing to share?

like this? >> http://powerprice.info/SPT/graphic.php (raskul .. see the cgminer restarts when the voltage @wall changes)

>> this is the part extracting the data .. https://github.com/wh00per/SPT-Historian

if you need help with the display part, I can post that too on Gitgub. The github package contains a pull request I've submitted long ago fixing some INC files inconsistencies in Minepeon. Be sure to remember that all the changes to the PHP scripts  (www folder) are not persistent after reboot.

I can parse the individual asic temperatures too .. but at that time I was not interested to go that deep.

WOW - thanks Wh00per .. will look into it!

[wh00per]

.. and to add a little .. the test conditions in Israel are a little bit different than in a generic north american household with 240V power or the datacenter conditions on the same continent with 208V supply. When you have 220V at the socket .. the unit behaves differently than in the cases mentioned before. You can relate though with the cases when the test conditions are similar.


MrTeal, if you have a permit and an inspector verifying the works no one will have anything against this practice. But if you do modifications which are not following the said path, the 1st worry is that you'll void the house insurance .. and in the event that one needs a firefighter intervention, they'll be left sleeping in a tent (if they still have one) and swimming in debt. Even then, there are worse things outthere.

[wpgdeez]

hey guys, planing to buy sp35, curently 5x ant s4. i cant find any reviews for them, can anyone say few words... can i overclock the sp35? are they stable? if i overclock how much power compsubtion will they need. the miners are ok, but i will not buy more of them. how are they compared to ant s5? thanks

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521520.msg10080091#msg10080091

What does it pull from the wall running at 6thash? What are the PSU's rated for?

The PSUs are rated 1600 Watt (output, not "at the wall").
I don't know the pull from the wall in this case, it wasn't done by us. Should be considerably above 3.65 KW

Isn't that pushing the PSU's a little hard? I'm surprised you don't do internal testing on your own before the product goes to market.

The PSUs have over current limitations.
The PSU working point is approved by the manufacturer.
The amount of PSUs RMAs is negligible.
We do internal testing, thoroughly, as you very well aware.
We don't retest over clocking on every ASICs batch.

I didnt realise it was OC'd. Raskul made mo mention of that.

[PatMan]

Hi SP-Tech,

Having major problems with two of my units again after the exploits yesterday. Came home earlier & both of them were down again, I've managed to get one back online after multiple hard reboots, PSU swapping (all 1200w+) then reflashing the firmware again, but its showing this:



I'm still trying to get the other unit back though......

I've checked all the connections/cables for any kind of burning/melting - they're clean as a whistle.

What do you think? Are they on their way out? At first I thought it was a firmware bug, as this problem only started after upgrading to the latest, but having seen my stats page above I'm beginning to think it's something more severe......

Peace.

[Hunger]

Hi SP-Tech,

Having major problems with two of my units again after the exploits yesterday. Came home earlier & both of them were down again, I've managed to get one back online after multiple hard reboots, PSU swapping (all 1200w+) then reflashing the firmware again, but its showing this:



I'm still trying to get the other unit back though......

I've checked all the connections/cables for any kind of burning/melting - they're clean as a whistle.

What do you think? Are they on their way out? At first I thought it was a firmware bug, as this problem only started after upgrading to the latest, but having seen my stats page above I'm beginning to think it's something more severe......

Peace.

What kind of PSU are you using ?
this error is very like one those when cables are not plugged in properly but if you have check that out already then its weird

[PatMan]

What kind of PSU are you using ?
this error is very like one those when cables are not plugged in properly but if you have check that out already then its weird

I've tried 3 different PSU's so far, all 1200W+ Gold and all work fine on my other mining equipment. Even the SD recovery isn't happening......it ain't looking good eh? 

[MrTeal]

What kind of PSU are you using ?
this error is very like one those when cables are not plugged in properly but if you have check that out already then its weird

I've tried 3 different PSU's so far, all 1200W+ Gold and all work fine on my other mining equipment. Even the SD recovery isn't happening......it ain't looking good eh? 

SP-Tech, what's the loop to board mapping and are the two down loops on one board?

[PatMan]

Well, both are dead I think: SD boot won't work, SD recovery won't work, no access, no ssh, no gui, IP scanner can't see them, router can't see them, myminer.io is empty, multiple PSU's tried & no sign of overheating anywhere - just a spinning fan......

Looks like my first RMA request for my spondoolie friends x 2 I'm afraid. F*ck

What's the procedure SPT? Sorry.

[wh00per]

I guess one can see the placement following the temperatures .. Loop 0 and Loop 2 seem to be the front ones near the air intake. What's running in PatMan's screenshot looks pretty downclocked and placed at rear.


PatMan, get it touch with Mike/Sonya using Skype. Ask for the ticket number. Based on their recommendation you will get your units back working or they'll tell you the next steps.

Hi All
We have now new support team.
You can see them online as spond.support.1 (Sonya) and spond.support.2 (Michael).

They accept direct Skype calls between 14:00-16:00 and 19:00-21:00 Israel time.

You can also send mail like always, to support@spondoolies-tech.com.

If they can not help, they will redirect you to me.

[PatMan]

I guess one can see the placement following the temperatures .. Loop 0 and Loop 2 seem to be the front ones near the air intake. What's running in PatMan's screenshot looks pretty downclocked and placed at rear.


PatMan, get it touch with Mike/Sonya using Skype. Ask for the ticket number. Based on their recommendation you will get your units back working or they'll tell you the next steps.

Hi All
We have now new support team.
You can see them online as spond.support.1 (Sonya) and spond.support.2 (Michael).

They accept direct Skype calls between 14:00-16:00 and 19:00-21:00 Israel time.

You can also send mail like always, to support@spondoolies-tech.com.

If they can not help, they will redirect you to me.

Thanks for that info - job for tomorrow, I need sleeeeep.

BTW, the unit was not down clocked at all actually, I took the screen as soon as I managed to log in to it for the last time - settings were all standard as I had just reflashed the firmware......

Gutted. Good night all.

[wh00per]

Thanks for that info - job for tomorrow, I need sleeeeep.

BTW, the unit was not down clocked at all actually, I took the screen as soon as I managed to log in to it for the last time - settings were all standard as I had just reflashed the firmware......

Gutted. Good night all.

If you don't see them online, it's the weekend. Try an email if no one is active on skype.

I found this below .. in between. Same message as in your case.

SP20 arrived today; up and mining in 30 minutes

However, ASIC stats shows:
LOOP[3] OFF (test serial failed or something)
6: disabled (i2c good, no OC)
7: disabled (i2c good, no OC)


Should I be concerned?

~nh

PS -- email sent to support, but I'm looking for collective wisdom here...

Yes.
The unit didn't manage to make the 2 ASICs work. That is 25% of it's ASICs, so that has big impact. Both ASICs 6 and 7 sit on same PSU.
Try to switch PSU between boards to see if the problem in board or PSU.

FYI, I had the same message on one loop in my SP30. The issue was that the unit "learned" the PSU limits by itself and was getting more juice than was supposed to. Limiting the power to 1200W per power supply solved my issue. Right now it's kind of stable. Try limit your loops at 240 down from 280/270 if you figure out a way to start it again.

Zvi,

What can I do/check to have this LOOP 9 communicate with the rest of the rig? It usually comes back after a number of reboots/restarts and then fails again when the mining process is restarted for whatever reasons might be (pool communications .. etc). Eventually .. it brings the whole bottom board down, the miner then hashing at about 2.2Gh/s.

I lowered the power limits below those set by the miner itself, with about 30W per power supply. I also limited the voltage from 660 to 708 to avoid ASIC overheating (i.e. above 115 degC). The firmware is 2.4.23.

Code:

Uptime:119 | FPGA ver:32
-----BOARD-0-----
PSU[EMERSON1200]: 1440->1280w[1276 1280 1276] (->1327w[1327 1327 1327]) (lim=1305) 0c cooling:0/0x0
-----BOARD-1-----
PSU[EMERSON1200]: 1200->1060w[1056 1060 1060] (->1099w[1099 1099 1099]) (lim=1270) 0c cooling:0/0x0
LOOP[0] ON
 0: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:693 vlt2:698(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 64W  93A  50c] ASIC:[ 85c  730hz(BL: 730)  249 (E:193) F:0]
 1: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:698(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 67W  96A  51c] ASIC:[ 85c  745hz(BL: 745)  226 (E:191) F:0]
 2: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:698(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 69W  99A  45c] ASIC:[ 85c  780hz(BL: 780)  210 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[1] ON
 3: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:693 vlt2:698(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 65W  94A  51c] ASIC:[ 85c  740hz(BL: 740)  212 (E:192) F:0]
 4: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:693 vlt2:698(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 69W  99A  63c] ASIC:[ 85c  785hz(BL: 785)  201 (E:193) F:0]
 5: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:698(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 62W  88A  55c] ASIC:[ 85c  710hz(BL: 710)  166 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[2] ON
 6: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 69W  98A  66c] ASIC:[ 85c  785hz(BL: 785)  245 (E:193) F:0]
 7: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 74W 106A  69c] ASIC:[ 85c  820hz(BL: 820)  222 (E:193) F:0]
 8: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 72W 103A  53c] ASIC:[ 85c  795hz(BL: 795)  256 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[3] ON
 9: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 71W 102A  64c] ASIC:[105c  775hz(BL: 775)  246 (E:193) F:0]
10: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 78W 112A  75c] ASIC:[105c  855hz(BL: 855)  234 (E:193) F:0]
11: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 69W  98A  67c] ASIC:[ 85c  770hz(BL: 770)  221 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[4] ON
12: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 74W 106A  80c] ASIC:[105c  835hz(BL: 835)  220 (E:193) F:0]
13: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 69W  99A  74c] ASIC:[110c  785hz(BL: 785)  221 (E:193) F:0]
14: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 72W 103A  60c] ASIC:[105c  815hz(BL: 815)  238 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[5] ON
15: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 68W  97A  53c] ASIC:[ 85c  765hz(BL: 765)  197 (E:193) F:0]
16: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 72W 102A  56c] ASIC:[ 85c  795hz(BL: 795)  207 (E:191) F:0]
17: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 71W 101A  48c] ASIC:[ 85c  790hz(BL: 790)  209 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[6] ON
18: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:701 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 73W 103A  58c] ASIC:[ 85c  805hz(BL: 805)  205 (E:193) F:0]
19: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 73W 104A  69c] ASIC:[ 85c  815hz(BL: 815)  210 (E:193) F:0]
20: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 71W 101A  65c] ASIC:[ 85c  795hz(BL: 795)  244 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[7] ON
21: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 76W 108A  78c] ASIC:[ 85c  835hz(BL: 835)  213 (E:193) F:0]
22: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 71W 102A  76c] ASIC:[ 85c  810hz(BL: 810)  239 (E:193) F:0]
23: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:701 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 70W 100A  58c] ASIC:[ 85c  775hz(BL: 775)  204 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[8] ON
24: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 74W 105A  68c] ASIC:[105c  815hz(BL: 815)  226 (E:193) F:0]
25: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 72W 103A  79c] ASIC:[100c  815hz(BL: 815)  251 (E:193) F:0]
26: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:675 vlt2:682(DCl:682 Tl:794 Ul:706) 72W 106A  76c] ASIC:[100c  820hz(BL: 820)  250 (E:190) F:0]
LOOP[9] ON
27: disabled (i2c good, no OC)
28: disabled (i2c good, no OC)
29: disabled (i2c good, no OC)

[H:HW:4122Gh,W:1918,L:0,A:27,MMtmp:0 TMP:(19)=>=>=>(66,48)]
Pushed 27 jobs , in HW queue 4 jobs (sw:1, hw:1)!
min:28 wins:6022[this/last min:106/265] bist-fail:461, hw-err:50
leading-zeroes:40 idle promils[s/m]:0/0, rate:4631gh/s asic-count:24
Fan:80, conseq:200
AC2DC BAD: 0 0
R/NR: 1588/0
RTF asics: 0
 5 restarted      0 reset          0 reset2         3 fake_wins
 0 stuck_bist     0 low_power      0 stuck_pll      0 runtime_dsble
 0 purge_queue    0 read_timeouts  0 dc2dc_oc       2 read_tmout2    5 read_crptn
 0 purge_queue3   31 bad_idle
Adapter queues: rsp=3, req=19

What did that electrician do at your place when you turned the units off for the first time with the new firmware?