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March 02, 2022, 05:53:26 PM |
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Same as this Russia might've got into more such activities against the rules of FIFA. Till date it has breached the rules of Olympics and that's the reason of taking away Russia from Olympics. Today it is announced that Belarus too no more into Olympics. I'm not sure of it, or else this might be a plan to make way to end the war. In one way it looks like a double rule, because during those wars FIFA should've taken some actions.
It looks ridiculous, they look one-sided and maybe we can see all of them. They are neutralized if they are an institution free from political elements. But their current decision is very different from what they say. Of course I as a football fan disappointed they are not neutral in this matter. Other news if FIFA's decision may reach UEFA therefore russian clubs that appear in the European league are officially disqualified. Unfortunate. It's actually unfortunate for the footballers because they did not deserve the ban. When we are debating about something we always say don't mix sports with politics but here that is exactly what we are doing. And I am not saying that they are doing anything wrong by banning the clubs. Because then I will have to hear that it I am supporting Russia with my ideas which I obviously don't.
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March 02, 2022, 06:02:27 PM |
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On March 24, 2022 Ukraine will play the World Cup access play-off with Scotland. Will they have all their best players available for this match? And those who are going to play, will they be well psychologically? In theory Ukraine had a greater probability of victory, but with this situation it is difficult to know.
I think Russia will face more troubles in days to come. This war is not going to come easy. There are restrictions and sections coming from all over. Now the world has woken up and there will more coming in strike both psychologically and physically. I am praying the war ends soon, otherwise we won't be able to predict what is coming next. We are definitely not in favor of war. We all want peace. Russia should stop fighting. But Putin is a stubborn man. He will not stop fighting until he reaches his goal. And as far as news of the war is concerned, I think Ukraine will surrender in a few days. Soon Russia will occupy Kyve. However, if the war continues, Russian athletes may not be able to participate in any sport outside the country. The EU and the USA are imposing heavy sanctions on the Russians. I think Putin's character is a lot like Hitler's. He will not move a hair from his goal. He may have been preparing for World War III. However, the USA does not want to go to war with Russia now. And so they are supporting Ukraine but not cooperating with them. But Putin only wants the fall of the Russian government. If Volodymyr Zelenskyy resigns, Russia's aggression will probably stop.
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March 02, 2022, 07:21:30 PM |
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Sports can be used to promote peace, and this is a big step, Canada has also ban the import of raw material from Russia. Mastercard banned the Russian transactions - Russia would not even think what more is coming in the day to come. We took a breath after Afghan war was over and we hope peace will prevail but this happened again.
News about various supply restrictions and bans is pouring in an endless stream (I'm from Russia), in fact, we are witnessing the process of canceling the whole country. I consider this to be the right decision, although I am a local resident and directly suffer (and will suffer) from this. By the way, knowing my own authorities, I can assume that, in spite of everyone, they can ignore the World Cup and ban its broadcasts in the country (if by this time this government or we still exist).
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March 02, 2022, 08:14:59 PM |
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I think big mistake made by FIFA if have final decision to banned Russia from world cup play off qualification and Spartak Moscow have out early before competition begin on EUFA Europe League, I think why not FIFA made the same thing with Israel team national country why not banned by FIFA because keep active until right now invasion war to Palestine, still have active on UEFA competition allowing by Israel team.
There is a danger that this might be actually the beginning of the end of a FIFA that includes the whole world. In the future, with any military or political conflict there will be people asking: "But you did this with Russia. Why aren't you doing it now?" If the FIFA permanently adopts the Western viewpoint they might be seen as a political institution by other countries who then withdraw from it alltogether. I hope this won't be the case as it would hurt everybody: the sport, the athletes, the spectators, ... I would guess that getting every single nation out that attacks another nation is a good decision to have. Only if they actually follow it up, because we all know they won't follow it up. Like USA attacked Iraq, and got over a million people killed (including a lot of their own). Were they kicked out of Fifa? You may seem to think that it was justified, but a lot of people all around world thinks that what USA did to Iraq was unjustified, especially after getting rid of Saddam, if he is gone, just make sure there is a good fair elections, and then leave, even that would have been acceptable. I would guess that China, Russia and so forth will be acted this way, which is 100% deserved and should be done, but when it is Saudis, USA, UK, or whatever that attacks another nation, they will just ignore it and that part is the big problem.
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Sports can be used to promote peace, and this is a big step, Canada has also ban the import of raw material from Russia. Mastercard banned the Russian transactions - Russia would not even think what more is coming in the day to come. We took a breath after Afghan war was over and we hope peace will prevail but this happened again.
News about various supply restrictions and bans is pouring in an endless stream (I'm from Russia), in fact, we are witnessing the process of canceling the whole country. I consider this to be the right decision, although I am a local resident and directly suffer (and will suffer) from this. By the way, knowing my own authorities, I can assume that, in spite of everyone, they can ignore the World Cup and ban its broadcasts in the country (if by this time this government or we still exist). Stay strong, we know that many people living in Russia are against what is happening but at this point there is not much to do as the government is showing quite clearly they do not care about the wishes of their own population. However at least you have a great advantage, you know about this forum and you probably already have some money invested in bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, so all of those sanctions while painful at least they will not have as much effect as if you were someone with no knowledge about this market.
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March 02, 2022, 09:09:34 PM |
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I remember about FIFA and UEFA announcement never mixing between football with political trough have several player celebrate their goal by showing support for Palestine freedom, almost player made it get punishment from UEFA and FIFA, latest with celebrate and support by Celtic fans and UEFA give punishment for Celtic. Right now have different thing with Russia invasion and make Spartak Moscow and Russian team national country have missing World Cup on Qatar after FIFA disqualify and banned them until unknow time, still waiting about Russian national country will make appeal.
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March 02, 2022, 09:26:10 PM |
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On March 24, 2022 Ukraine will play the World Cup access play-off with Scotland.
Will they have all their best players available for this match? And those who are going to play, will they be well psychologically?
In theory Ukraine had a greater probability of victory, but with this situation it is difficult to know.
I think Russia will face more troubles in days to come. This war is not going to come easy. There are restrictions and sections coming from all over. Now the world has woken up and there will more coming in strike both psychologically and physically. I am praying the war ends soon, otherwise we won't be able to predict what is coming next. If Ukraine will not surrender Russian will continue attacks them cause put in wants to be victorious and he will be if he can reach his goal but Ukraine trying to defend their country but in my opinion, as it was too many lives has gone it's better to surrender so that the war is over. Back to the topic if this two countries will stop many players can play again and represent their country in sports .
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March 02, 2022, 09:27:52 PM |
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I remember about FIFA and UEFA announcement never mixing between football with political trough have several player celebrate their goal by showing support for Palestine freedom, almost player made it get punishment from UEFA and FIFA, latest with celebrate and support by Celtic fans and UEFA give punishment for Celtic. Right now have different thing with Russia invasion and make Spartak Moscow and Russian team national country have missing World Cup on Qatar after FIFA disqualify and banned them until unknow time, still waiting about Russian national country will make appeal.
I also think that fifa and uefa have double standards towards for russia and israel in making their decisions, so far fifa has always kept football away from politics but it seems that changed when russia invaded ukraina and they punished the russian national team and russian football clubs now to play in competition, I think that so far, FIFA and UEFA have always respected the value of sportsmanship and anti-racism, but their current attitude certainly shows a discriminatory attitude.
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March 02, 2022, 09:46:34 PM |
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I also think that fifa and uefa have double standards towards for russia and israel in making their decisions, so far fifa has always kept football away from politics but it seems that changed when russia invaded ukraina and they punished the russian national team and russian football clubs now to play in competition, I think that so far, FIFA and UEFA have always respected the value of sportsmanship and anti-racism, but their current attitude certainly shows a discriminatory attitude.
This also happens, because there is a lot of pressure from all sides on FIFA and on UEFA to make this happen. In other cases, such as Israel, or the fact that the World Cup was held in Qatar, there was not such strong social, political and economic pressure for them to take another attitude. I think that sport organizations should remain neutral, but in this case it is becoming difficult.
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March 02, 2022, 10:03:01 PM |
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Fifa's action against the Russian football body will be viewed as an attempt to middle sport with politics as the war has no direct involvement of the athletes most citizens doesn't support the war but right now the citizens a the worst hit with all the ban and sections it will take a long time before things will return to normal. I feel for both Ukraine and Russian citizens in this trying time.
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March 03, 2022, 03:20:13 AM |
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As a sports body, FIFA should have remained neutral in this conflict. On the other hand, they are taking sides here and their actions are biased and partial. Did they banned the NATO nations when they invaded Libya and bombed that country to shit? The same was the case when Syria was invaded and when they installed a puppet regime in Iraq. So what is the difference between the NATO invading Libya and Russia invading Ukraine? I am not defending what the Russians are doing, but the hypocrisy here is very obvious.
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March 03, 2022, 11:22:48 AM |
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Fifa's action against the Russian football body will be viewed as an attempt to middle sport with politics as the war has no direct involvement of the athletes most citizens doesn't support the war but right now the citizens a the worst hit with all the ban and sections it will take a long time before things will return to normal. I feel for both Ukraine and Russian citizens in this trying time.
Whenever there is war every sector will bleed. The war has no direct involvement in malls but malls are bombed down. So many citizens of Russia don't support the war but they are also receiving effects of the war. The sanctions to football is normal. You know soccer does not have a voice but people listen to it. When you do not ban football it look like everything is fine. But when you section football, football will begin to speak and I think putin will hear.
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News about various supply restrictions and bans is pouring in an endless stream (I'm from Russia), in fact, we are witnessing the process of canceling the whole country. I consider this to be the right decision, although I am a local resident and directly suffer (and will suffer) from this. By the way, knowing my own authorities, I can assume that, in spite of everyone, they can ignore the World Cup and ban its broadcasts in the country (if by this time this government or we still exist).
Stay strong, we know that many people living in Russia are against what is happening but at this point there is not much to do as the government is showing quite clearly they do not care about the wishes of their own population. However at least you have a great advantage, you know about this forum and you probably already have some money invested in bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, so all of those sanctions while painful at least they will not have as much effect as if you were someone with no knowledge about this market. Thank you for your wishes. But objectively speaking, my discomfort and problems are nothing compared to the problems of Ukraine, for which I am now much more worried. And yes, at the moment I have an advantage, although for a long time in my country this forum is available only through VPN. And there are rumors that martial law will be declared one of these days - so I'm not sure that access to the Internet will be preserved. So there is a possibility that I will watch the 2022 World Cup in the recording ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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March 03, 2022, 01:38:48 PM |
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I remember about FIFA and UEFA announcement never mixing between football with political trough have several player celebrate their goal by showing support for Palestine freedom, almost player made it get punishment from UEFA and FIFA, latest with celebrate and support by Celtic fans and UEFA give punishment for Celtic. Right now have different thing with Russia invasion and make Spartak Moscow and Russian team national country have missing World Cup on Qatar after FIFA disqualify and banned them until unknow time, still waiting about Russian national country will make appeal.
We deeply regret the decision taken by FIFA and UEFA by suspending Russia's match in the world cup play-offs and have a high probability that Russia will be excluded from the play-off match if the war between Ukraine and Russia is not stopped.even though we all know that this is not the case.related to football, it is a politics between the two countries, but today many are involved with football so that it prohibits the Russian national team and clubs in Russia from playing in the European arena which is shaded by FIFA and UEFA, I think the policy taken by Shiva and Reva this is really really unfair
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March 03, 2022, 06:33:52 PM |
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Fifa's action against the Russian football body will be viewed as an attempt to middle sport with politics as the war has no direct involvement of the athletes most citizens doesn't support the war but right now the citizens a the worst hit with all the ban and sections it will take a long time before things will return to normal. I feel for both Ukraine and Russian citizens in this trying time.
Whenever there is war every sector will bleed. The war has no direct involvement in malls but malls are bombed down. So many citizens of Russia don't support the war but they are also receiving effects of the war. The sanctions to football is normal. You know soccer does not have a voice but people listen to it. When you do not ban football it look like everything is fine. But when you section football, football will begin to speak and I think putin will hear. Yeah, that's all a little too poetic to be true. Honestly, I don't think Putin cares at all. And even if he does, it is going to be the least of his worries at the moment. I bet you don't have to be Einstein to figure this out. Even though people might say that I am a naysayer, but that's the truth and we have to accept it. They are at war and I don't think banning some football clubs is gonna make much of a difference.
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March 03, 2022, 09:14:10 PM |
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Yeah, that's all a little too poetic to be true. Honestly, I don't think Putin cares at all. And even if he does, it is going to be the least of his worries at the moment. I bet you don't have to be Einstein to figure this out. Even though people might say that I am a naysayer, but that's the truth and we have to accept it. They are at war and I don't think banning some football clubs is gonna make much of a difference. Even though Putin will not heed it (the sanctions imposed by FIFA) but I believe the pressure from the Russian people to stop the war will be even greater. all means must be tried to melt Putin's heart, everyone certainly hopes that the world cup will continue without worries, if the war gets wider, who can guarantee that the world cup can be held?
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With regard to FIFA's decision, it is somewhat harsh, despite the fact that the conflict between Ukraine and Russia went from being a geopolitical problem to a matter of war between rulers, the citizens are not to blame, I have friends in Russia who tell me that most people do not agree with what the president is doing, even so the players should not be punished but the rulers, the sanctions will never be for the rulers of the countries, because they already have everything safe, the who suffer from these sanctions are the people, the people, in this case sports and football. But seeing all the facts of the high crimes against humanity that have occurred in Ukraine by Russia, I know that they are high pressure measures against the Russian government, to force it to back down, the bad thing is that I do not think it is the solution because threatening with dissuasive power is something else, in addition to the imminent danger that there is now that the nuclear plant is on fire, it is something that is very worrying, according to some analysts it could end up with a continent, if so, God forbid, I do not think let there be a world cup.
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Ukraine has requested that their qualifying game for the WC is postponed. It was supposed to be played in Scotland on March 24th and in Ukraine on March 29th but considering the fact that football has been suspended in Ukraine it remains to be seen how this will be handled.
Both Fifa and the Scottish FA have expressed understanding for the situation and hopefully a solution can be found. If not, unfortunately football is not the most important thing in such situations - but it would be unfair if Ukraine would not get the chance to play.
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Both Fifa and the Scottish FA have expressed understanding for the situation and hopefully a solution can be found. If not, unfortunately football is not the most important thing in such situations - but it would be unfair if Ukraine would not get the chance to play.
It is always difficult to decide what to do in these cases. When competition rules are created, you never think and create rules for this type of situation that Ukraine and Europe are experiencing. On the other hand, the qualifiers cannot be postponed constantly, they must occur at some point in the following weeks.
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Ukraine has requested that their qualifying game for the WC is postponed. It was supposed to be played in Scotland on March 24th and in Ukraine on March 29th but considering the fact that football has been suspended in Ukraine it remains to be seen how this will be handled.
Both Fifa and the Scottish FA have expressed understanding for the situation and hopefully a solution can be found. If not, unfortunately football is not the most important thing in such situations - but it would be unfair if Ukraine would not get the chance to play.
sports have always been used to promote peace. Football is not important but World Cup is. Being expelled from such an event and other teams boycotting and not willing to play with Russain this is a war won without coming in battle field. My heart aches to see the people in pain and running for their lives. May that war ends soon and may we all witness the dawn of peace to bless all the sufferers of the world.
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