Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[Jating]

Helenius has a bad game plan against Wilder. He pushes him and try to be the aggressor. But he forget to put his hand to protect his chin.

We all know that the Bronze Bomber still had that power despite him losing the twice to Fury. And with that win, his confidence is back. Usyk could be in the radar for him next. Gonna be a good fight as well but I guess Usyk technical skills will be too much for Wilder, just saying.

[Kemarit]

Helenius has a bad game plan against Wilder. He pushes him and try to be the aggressor. But he forget to put his hand to protect his chin.

Yeah, I think Helenius thought that Wilder doesn't have the mentality to stay in the fight. So he take it to him, and then got caught. And probably the weight difference, maybe copying Fury's blue print of imposing his full weight on him to get Wilder tired but it all back fired.

We all know that the Bronze Bomber still had that power despite him losing the twice to Fury. And with that win, his confidence is back. Usyk could be in the radar for him next. Gonna be a good fight as well but I guess Usyk technical skills will be too much for Wilder, just saying.

If I'm not mistaken, it was Usyk who says that he wants Wilder next. So let's see how it will go next year. Wilder win by knockout might scare Usyk.

[yazher]

Helenius has a bad game plan against Wilder. He pushes him and try to be the aggressor. But he forget to put his hand to protect his chin.

We all know that the Bronze Bomber still had that power despite him losing the twice to Fury. And with that win, his confidence is back. Usyk could be in the radar for him next. Gonna be a good fight as well but I guess Usyk technical skills will be too much for Wilder, just saying.

I think Wilder should fight someone who is not really that strong first to get himself back on track and he might gonna need it most after a long time rest after a straight loss. Usyk is not that easy and he might get in trouble if he gonna fights him in his comeback fight next year. Well! if both parties will decide to fight then it is a good fight and the fans will really love it. After all, all they want is for both figthers are getting to work their best skills in the ring with the right opponent.

[YuginKadoya]

I really like how the talk on the post-fight interview  they shown respect to each other despite of some controversies that happened on their amateur days.  Shields had proven herself that she is the better boxer after 10 years but it won't change the fact that their amateur fight was judged wrongly.  

[1] https://youtu.be/3JR0W8IVaFY?t=169

I think at the end of the day both fighters really feel both their opponent and Claressa Shields have truly given a great fight even though Savannah Marshall was a huge and powerful shot fighter, and really this is a monumental fight for women's boxing and I really think both fighters have given their all, in making history, and both fighters on the post-fight interview have a legit air while they are talking and giving their thoughts on what they feel, and if there is a rematch then I would like to see again,

Results on my pick for the Wilder vs. Helenius event

Deontay Wilder VS Robert Helenius ROUND 1 - KO/TKO - WIN

It only takes 1 punch and 1 round to knockout Robert Helenius it was really a superb fight I already knew that his opponent is really no match against Deontay Wilder and Wilder needs a bigger opponent if not Tyson Fury an opponent that can withstand that Strong punching power that he had, I know that Francis Ngannoue has said that he will fight Wilder and both these men have crazy punching power, but I really want Ngannoue to stay on MMA while Wilder could fight a bigger opponent,

Caleb Plant VS Anthony Dirrell ROUND 9 - KO/TKO - WIN

Great fight, watching it really gave me the warriors vibes but when Dirrell Clinch he will surely give a punch to Plant, and Caleb Plant was really fast with his feet and when he attacks Dirrell can not see him, but it was really a great action, in my opinion, Plant always getting those clean shot, and on round 9 a shot to the body and a left hook was delivered by Plant to Dirrell, then he shovel to Dirrell's grave,

[erep]

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Results on my pick for the Wilder vs. Helenius event

Deontay Wilder VS Robert Helenius ROUND 1 - KO/TKO - WIN

It only takes 1 punch and 1 round to knockout Robert Helenius it was really a superb fight I already knew that his opponent is really no match against Deontay Wilder and Wilder needs a bigger opponent if not Tyson Fury an opponent that can withstand that Strong punching power that he had, I know that Francis Ngannoue has said that he will fight Wilder and both these men have crazy punching power, but I really want Ngannoue to stay on MMA while Wilder could fight a bigger opponent,

Crazy fight, I didn't expect him to finish the fight for 1 strong hit in the first round, he did it perfectly for the main fight, although he is rumored for the mega fight will fight Francis Ngannou but I also don't agree with the fight from different ring, looks like mcgregor vs mayweather. But how the fight Tyson Fury vs Wilder IV might be impossible for the next fight, because Wilder only has 2 defeat records from Tyson Fury.

[harizen]

Did Pacquiao actually said that? Or is it just a writer who made up some stories to get an attention? Because I really don't think Manny Pacquiao is that dumb to consider fighting an undisputed boxer in what was toutred as the most challenging division. Crawford is already hard to defeat and the same goes for Spence. Let's not forget that Ugas defeated Pacquiao while Spence haven't had the hard time.

If you will read the article, he just answered the question but to make things clear, there's no plan for him about that from the very beginning. That's why he responded with "Why not? If that’s possible?". It happened at the press conference on his upcoming exhibition match.

Personally for me and as I mentioned, it's better for Pacquiao not to return to an official fight. After all, he already cemented his legacy.

Besides, the supposed unification fight between Spence Jr vs Crawford is now in jeopardy this year and likely close to being a failed negotiation.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Helenius has a bad game plan against Wilder. He pushes him and try to be the aggressor. But he forget to put his hand to protect his chin.

We all know that the Bronze Bomber still had that power despite him losing the twice to Fury. And with that win, his confidence is back. Usyk could be in the radar for him next. Gonna be a good fight as well but I guess Usyk technical skills will be too much for Wilder, just saying.

I think Wilder should fight someone who is not really that strong first to get himself back on track and he might gonna need it most after a long time rest after a straight loss. Usyk is not that easy and he might get in trouble if he gonna fights him in his comeback fight next year. Well! if both parties will decide to fight then it is a good fight and the fans will really love it. After all, all they want is for both figthers are getting to work their best skills in the ring with the right opponent.

As far as I can remember, they have verbally agree to fight next, but who knows, plans might chance. I wanted to see Wilder fight Andy Ruiz though, we have seen Ruiz winning against an old Ortiz. And so to shake things up, Ruiz vs Wilder might be good to watch to next.

Or maybe he can go and fight Joshua as well. This fight should happened years ago when they are still in their hype and haven't tasted defeated. But I guess the fans still demand for this fight to happen.

[serjent05]

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Results on my pick for the Wilder vs. Helenius event

Deontay Wilder VS Robert Helenius ROUND 1 - KO/TKO - WIN

It only takes 1 punch and 1 round to knockout Robert Helenius it was really a superb fight I already knew that his opponent is really no match against Deontay Wilder and Wilder needs a bigger opponent if not Tyson Fury an opponent that can withstand that Strong punching power that he had, I know that Francis Ngannoue has said that he will fight Wilder and both these men have crazy punching power, but I really want Ngannoue to stay on MMA while Wilder could fight a bigger opponent,

Indeed it was too fast.  The fight is finished even before the audience had warmed their sit.  Deontay Wilder really shows the fans that he is still able to do the 1 punch KO.  If we look at the face of Helenius after he was KO'd, it is somehow worrying and it is the face that shows he doesn't know what hit him.  Gladly Helenius is fine and is able to walk down the ring without any issues.

Claressa Shields VS Savannah Marshall Claressa Shields has come a long way in getting that obstacle to move out of her and defeating Savannah Marshall was one of them because she was the only one that led a loss during their amateur fight on some Olympics game that I can't remember, and this win over Savannah Marshall is another big triumphant for her, and now having 13 wins and 0 losses I think that is a great record to now move on a further division, and I think it is really good enough,

All respect to Claressa Shield in beating Savannah Marshall despite of being the smaller boxer between the two.  Marshall is a heavy hitter, and Shield being able to absorb those punches and be able to out-box Marshall and win the fight is an extraordinary feat.  The camp also did a great job in scouting Marshall's flaws and training Shield to exploit those flaws.  I believe the controversy in their amateur fight can now come to a close.  Claressa Shield had proven that she is the better boxer.

[YuginKadoya]

Crazy fight, I didn't expect him to finish the fight for 1 strong hit in the first round, he did it perfectly for the main fight, although he is rumored for the mega fight will fight Francis Ngannou but I also don't agree with the fight from different ring, looks like mcgregor vs mayweather. But how the fight Tyson Fury vs Wilder IV might be impossible for the next fight, because Wilder only has 2 defeat records from Tyson Fury.

Surely, Deontay Wilder, has that power in his punch that could 1 hit OK anyone, even Tyson Fury but Tyson Fury just snap out of it and recovered fast enough to retaliate, and additionally, Robert Helenius is not that kind of a big deal of a boxer, so it is really expected that Deontay Wilder will win this one, and he did in just 1 round he make a big knockout on Helenius,


Here is the result for the Devin Haney VS George Kambosos Jr.

Devin Haney VS George Kambosos Jr. ROUND 12 DECISION - WON

It was a war Devin Haney has many more clean shots than Kambosos that is for sure, but surely he can not underestimate Kambosos Jr. that withstands his flourished of punches and George Kambosos Jr. doesn't have much head movement, not like Devin Haney that has a lot of head movement, and the timing of the punches more technical and so Devin Haney really won this match,

[Fredomago]

Helenius has a bad game plan against Wilder. He pushes him and try to be the aggressor. But he forget to put his hand to protect his chin.

We all know that the Bronze Bomber still had that power despite him losing the twice to Fury. And with that win, his confidence is back. Usyk could be in the radar for him next. Gonna be a good fight as well but I guess Usyk technical skills will be too much for Wilder, just saying.

I think Wilder should fight someone who is not really that strong first to get himself back on track and he might gonna need it most after a long time rest after a straight loss. Usyk is not that easy and he might get in trouble if he gonna fights him in his comeback fight next year. Well! if both parties will decide to fight then it is a good fight and the fans will really love it. After all, all they want is for both figthers are getting to work their best skills in the ring with the right opponent.

As far as I can remember, they have verbally agree to fight next, but who knows, plans might chance. I wanted to see Wilder fight Andy Ruiz though, we have seen Ruiz winning against an old Ortiz. And so to shake things up, Ruiz vs Wilder might be good to watch to next.

Or maybe he can go and fight Joshua as well. This fight should happened years ago when they are still in their hype and haven't tasted defeated. But I guess the fans still demand for this fight to happen.

Handlers are just waiting for some noise and will follow to what the fans want them to see. I see the chances that they will going to settle this once the negotiations take place and they will start to workout. Not sure though if after that long break he can beat another good fighter, I will go with the above opinion, it's better to take a little step before challenging a great fighter, it will be good for him to create hypes for his career.

Afterwards, once he feels that he is really on the right track, I mean if he feels that he's back in right shape, then challenging a known fighter will be a win-win for him and to the promoters that will take the fight.

[TopTort777]

As as expected, Wilder going back to his one punch KO. And as I have said, Wilder coming in low in this fight, so he might be looking to be back in his old self, knocking out opponents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9SGBvouy7U

You can see that once Wilder touches Helenius, it's over, look at the eye of Helenius in the canvass, it's scary.

On cameras, that right punch does not even looked scary. Just a jab. But it was enough to drop Helenius down That only shows that both fighters are on different levels. Helenius was to slow for Wilder. Where Helenius throw single punch, Wilder answers with changing position and 2-4 punches. I knew that Wilder would drop him down, but I though Helenius would last at least 2-3 rounds. Instead it took less than 3 minutes

[Getmon]

As as expected, Wilder going back to his one punch KO. And as I have said, Wilder coming in low in this fight, so he might be looking to be back in his old self, knocking out opponents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9SGBvouy7U

You can see that once Wilder touches Helenius, it's over, look at the eye of Helenius in the canvass, it's scary.

On cameras, that right punch does not even looked scary. Just a jab. But it was enough to drop Helenius down That only shows that both fighters are on different levels. Helenius was to slow for Wilder. Where Helenius throw single punch, Wilder answers with changing position and 2-4 punches. I knew that Wilder would drop him down, but I though Helenius would last at least 2-3 rounds. Instead it took less than 3 minutes

Deontay Wilder do not have the best boxing ability but the man is blessed with enormous power. It was not a jab, it was a short right but more than enough to put Robert Helenius to sleep. Helenius was only a come-back fight for him. Ruiz name was mentioned as next. If not Ruiz, I like Wilder to face all the number one ranked of the four major belts, Joyce, Dubois, Hunter and Hrgović.

I came to watch the other fight between Caleb Plant and Anthony Dirrell. I was hyped by the build up, they hate each other. In the fight Plant planted Dirrell to the grave. What a masterful attack by Plant to deliver that KO.

[Baofeng]

As as expected, Wilder going back to his one punch KO. And as I have said, Wilder coming in low in this fight, so he might be looking to be back in his old self, knocking out opponents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9SGBvouy7U

You can see that once Wilder touches Helenius, it's over, look at the eye of Helenius in the canvass, it's scary.

On cameras, that right punch does not even looked scary. Just a jab. But it was enough to drop Helenius down That only shows that both fighters are on different levels. Helenius was to slow for Wilder. Where Helenius throw single punch, Wilder answers with changing position and 2-4 punches. I knew that Wilder would drop him down, but I though Helenius would last at least 2-3 rounds. Instead it took less than 3 minutes

Deontay Wilder do not have the best boxing ability but the man is blessed with enormous power. It was not a jab, it was a short right but more than enough to put Robert Helenius to sleep. Helenius was only a come-back fight for him. Ruiz name was mentioned as next. If not Ruiz, I like Wilder to face all the number one ranked of the four major belts, Joyce, Dubois, Hunter and Hrgović.

Yes, it was not a jab, it was really a power punch, however ,what is scary is that he didn't even put 100% on that shot and yet we see how powerful it was as Helenius went to the canvass. And with that kind of power, anything is possible, round 1 or round 12.

I came to watch the other fight between Caleb Plant and Anthony Dirrell. I was hyped by the build up, they hate each other. In the fight Plant planted Dirrell to the grave. What a masterful attack by Plant to deliver that KO.

Leading up to the fight, this 2 really hate each other and I will say that it was a back and forth fight. Until Plant hit him with that left hook, both of them throwing at the same time, but it was Plant that connected first with that solid hook. Reminds of Nonito's destructing left hook during his prime. Possible candidate of knock out of the year, together with Wilder's knockout of Helenius.

[BitDane]

As as expected, Wilder going back to his one punch KO. And as I have said, Wilder coming in low in this fight, so he might be looking to be back in his old self, knocking out opponents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9SGBvouy7U

You can see that once Wilder touches Helenius, it's over, look at the eye of Helenius in the canvass, it's scary.

On cameras, that right punch does not even looked scary. Just a jab. But it was enough to drop Helenius down That only shows that both fighters are on different levels. Helenius was to slow for Wilder. Where Helenius throw single punch, Wilder answers with changing position and 2-4 punches.

That was a right straight it doubles the punching power because Helenius is moving forward.  As I expected, Helenius will be caught by counter since he is way too open after throwing his punches.

I knew that Wilder would drop him down, but I though Helenius would last at least 2-3 rounds. Instead it took less than 3 minutes

With the way Helenius leave himself open after throwing punches, it would be an easy 1st round KO for a power puncher like Wilder.

[owengtam09]

Upcoming Boxing match next week I know many are well known fighters but it is still a boxing event,

Taylor vs. Carabajal Saturday 10.29.2022



MAIN EVENT

Katie Taylor VS Karen Elizabeth Carabajal

CO-MAIN EVENT

Jordan Gill VS Kiko Martinez

MAIN CARD

Caoimhin Agyarko VS Peter Dobson
Mary Romero VS Ellie Scotney
Gary Cully VS Jaouad Belmehdi
Mickey Ellison VS Thomas Whittaker Hart

CANCELLED

Johnny Fisher VS Alfonso Damiani

All information was from https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/93059-taylor-vs

[TopTort777]

As as expected, Wilder going back to his one punch KO. And as I have said, Wilder coming in low in this fight, so he might be looking to be back in his old self, knocking out opponents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9SGBvouy7U

You can see that once Wilder touches Helenius, it's over, look at the eye of Helenius in the canvass, it's scary.

On cameras, that right punch does not even looked scary. Just a jab. But it was enough to drop Helenius down That only shows that both fighters are on different levels. Helenius was to slow for Wilder. Where Helenius throw single punch, Wilder answers with changing position and 2-4 punches.

That was a right straight it doubles the punching power because Helenius is moving forward.  As I expected, Helenius will be caught by counter since he is way too open after throwing his punches.

I knew that Wilder would drop him down, but I though Helenius would last at least 2-3 rounds. Instead it took less than 3 minutes

With the way Helenius leave himself open after throwing punches, it would be an easy 1st round KO for a power puncher like Wilder.

More looked like a partial cross or overhand to me. Wilder did not even straightened his arm and that punch looked a bit clumsy. But that was enough to put Helenius to sleep
Btw, Wilnder and Helenius are formed sparring partners. It is strange that Helenius was so open and straightforward, as he knows Wilder well. Just a small maybe - maybe they agreed that Wilder will knock him out, but not in a brutal way. So that is why that punch was a bit clumsy and I expect not a full power. But still, that it just my "maybe". 

[YuginKadoya]

Upcoming Boxing match next week I know many are well known fighters but it is still a boxing event,

Taylor vs. Carabajal Saturday 10.29.2022

I usually had limited interest in woman's boxing there are only a few fights that I am watching but including the Shield, VS Marshall fight in London seeing this event both women fighters are undefeated, which is why I am intrigued about both of them and I think that Katie Taylor has the most experience of the two for having 21 wins 6 Knockouts, while Karen Elizabeth Carabajal has 19 wins and 2 knockouts, Katie Taylor has the advantage of with the speed and power while Karen Carabajal has the height and reach advantage, but for me I like Katie Taylor, winning this, she seems very versatile with a boxer that is taller than hers,

More looked like a partial cross or overhand to me. Wilder did not even straightened his arm and that punch looked a bit clumsy. But that was enough to put Helenius to sleep
Btw, Wilnder and Helenius are formed sparring partners. It is strange that Helenius was so open and straightforward, as he knows Wilder well. Just a small maybe - maybe they agreed that Wilder will knock him out, but not in a brutal way. So that is why that punch was a bit clumsy and I expect not a full power. But still, that it just my "maybe". 

1st few shots of Wilder seem clumsily executed and I think it is an overhand punch that he immediately pulls out, while Robert Helenius is just charging towards Wilder without thinking ahead, while Deontay Wilder has already seen that opportunity and effectively executed his fast straight to Helenius that drops him instantly, I guess the power of Wilder is still there, or Helenius just doesn't have the durability to withstand it, for me seeing this fight on paper already gotten to my head who's really going to win and I wasn't wrong Helenius is not that well known, and he takes the Deontay Wilder fight, but well Wilder is a huge money for him that is why he accepted it,

[Japinat]

Here is the result for the Devin Haney VS George Kambosos Jr.

Devin Haney VS George Kambosos Jr. ROUND 12 DECISION - WON

It was a war Devin Haney has many more clean shots than Kambosos that is for sure, but surely he can not underestimate Kambosos Jr. that withstands his flourished of punches and George Kambosos Jr. doesn't have much head movement, not like Devin Haney that has a lot of head movement, and the timing of the punches more technical and so Devin Haney really won this match,

Just as expected, Kambosos is not gonna make some difference in their rematch but he manage to improve, started strong and aggressive. Unfortunately, that didn't last and Haney overwhelmed him with clean shots where Kambosos expected it the least. Haney was just to quick to react and counter every movement of Kambosos.

[Fredomago]

Here is the result for the Devin Haney VS George Kambosos Jr.

Devin Haney VS George Kambosos Jr. ROUND 12 DECISION - WON

It was a war Devin Haney has many more clean shots than Kambosos that is for sure, but surely he can not underestimate Kambosos Jr. that withstands his flourished of punches and George Kambosos Jr. doesn't have much head movement, not like Devin Haney that has a lot of head movement, and the timing of the punches more technical and so Devin Haney really won this match,

Just as expected, Kambosos is not gonna make some difference in their rematch but he manage to improve, started strong and aggressive. Unfortunately, that didn't last and Haney overwhelmed him with clean shots where Kambosos expected it the least. Haney was just to quick to react and counter every movement of Kambosos.

Yeah, Haney adjusts so well and he manages to quickly overwhelmed Kambosos. I was in the impression that Kambosos will be able to break the defense of Haney, but it's just in a few rounds, but afterwards Haney easily read his strategy and start to counter him. At the end of the day, Haney wins it and defends his belt.

Again, it's Haney's technical skills that bring him on top, good adjustments with a high IQ he acknowledge what Kambosos is trying to do.

Winning this fight gives him the upper hand to make more money in his future fights.

[Dave1]

Here is the result for the Devin Haney VS George Kambosos Jr.

Devin Haney VS George Kambosos Jr. ROUND 12 DECISION - WON

It was a war Devin Haney has many more clean shots than Kambosos that is for sure, but surely he can not underestimate Kambosos Jr. that withstands his flourished of punches and George Kambosos Jr. doesn't have much head movement, not like Devin Haney that has a lot of head movement, and the timing of the punches more technical and so Devin Haney really won this match,

Just as expected, Kambosos is not gonna make some difference in their rematch but he manage to improve, started strong and aggressive. Unfortunately, that didn't last and Haney overwhelmed him with clean shots where Kambosos expected it the least. Haney was just to quick to react and counter every movement of Kambosos.

And it just shows how great Haney is, I mean he saw what George is trying to do in the first couple of rounds, and so he adjusted and uses his boxing IQ to outwit Kambosos and then elevate his game to the next level.

Just like that he turn the fight around and dominated George for full 12 rounds and blood in Kambosos face shows that Haney really put everything in this fight.