Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[YuginKadoya]

Yes, he gasses out after 3 rounds, if he just had enough stamina, I think he can pull it off with that upset.

Yafai on the other hand, seems to wake up after that knock down, and then make a huge comeback, probably it was just ring rust that affected him early in the fight. But once he got his confidence and the rhythm, just a matter of time. Just another lessons learned for Paclar, nut not sure if he will still be given this chance to fight again at this level. He was in the undercard of one of the biggest fight in Light HW.

It was really too bad, but yeah it really happens, and Jerald Paclar really isn't aware that he would gas out from the fight well for a boxer of that Caliber, I really think he is used to fighting even in 12 rounds but this issue really happens to some fighters unexpected gassing out, and the body can not take the fatigue anymore, but I really think he showed a rematch worthy fight so why not, maybe the fight makers could realize his potential by just seeing the 1st few rounds,

According to some replies the fight with Canelo would be  more possible to happen since Bivol - Beterbiev is somehow impossible due to boxing politics.  It is a sad thing that even sports is greatly affected by politics.  So we will be missing this Unification fight until the problem with their promoter is fixed.

If ever both party agreed for a rematch, I wonder which weight Division are they fighting, would it be Canelo's division? or Bivol's division?  If ever Canelo go up in weight division just to fight Bivols in his natural Division, I think we will be seeing the same result like their first fight.

Well, we will likely be seeing some news about that but both Dmitry Bivol and Canelo Alvarez better agreed fast they are getting older so fast that they will surely miss the good fight that they might have, but for me, anything for Dmitry Bivol is a great fight if the Unification fight would not get through then a Canelo Alvarez or even a Zurdo Ramirez rematch will quite OK until the camp of Dmitry Bivol would not get a bigger fight for him,

[Slow death]

I decided to bet only on the favorites (of course I analyzed the fights) and this is the result I had:



as my first multibet in the Boxing I was pleased to have won this multibet, there are still more games in this multibet, but if I were to post the image it would be too big, that's why I preferred to just post a part of the images, next bet I will make another multibet with the fights on the 11th, 12th and 13th, I see that in Sunny Edwards fight will win, in Shabaz Masoud fight will win, in Bradley Rea fight will win, in natasha jonas fight she will win. in the Dalton Smith fight will win. when making a multibet with these fights the odds would be @2.54 and I'll combine it with some soccer game to at least get an odd from @5.00 to @12.00 to make a decent profit

[Japinat]

If ever both party agreed for a rematch, I wonder which weight Division are they fighting, would it be Canelo's division? or Bivol's division?  If ever Canelo go up in weight division just to fight Bivols in his natural Division, I think we will be seeing the same result like their first fight.

I don't think that Bivol can go and fight at 168 lbs, he has been a true light heavy weight fighter in his career. So most likely if Canelo insisted at this comfortable weight, Bivol is not going to take the fight. Canelo has 2 fights already in light heavy weight so I guess there is no problem for him moving up again and rematch Bivol. Although the result might still be the same as you have said.

Aside from that, Canelo don't have any power now to insist or demand what he want like to settle and contest their rematch in 168 pounds because he is now chasing Bivol, not the other way around. Furthermore, their first encounter happened in Bivol's division, so it's still better to make it happen in light-heavyweight and just like you guys said, this isn't the first time for Canelo.

[Vaculin]

If ever both party agreed for a rematch, I wonder which weight Division are they fighting, would it be Canelo's division? or Bivol's division?  If ever Canelo go up in weight division just to fight Bivols in his natural Division, I think we will be seeing the same result like their first fight.

I don't think that Bivol can go and fight at 168 lbs, he has been a true light heavy weight fighter in his career. So most likely if Canelo insisted at this comfortable weight, Bivol is not going to take the fight. Canelo has 2 fights already in light heavy weight so I guess there is no problem for him moving up again and rematch Bivol. Although the result might still be the same as you have said.

Aside from that, Canelo don't have any power now to insist or demand what he want like to settle and contest their rematch in 168 pounds because he is now chasing Bivol, not the other way around. Furthermore, their first encounter happened in Bivol's division, so it's still better to make it happen in light-heavyweight and just like you guys said, this isn't the first time for Canelo.

Well, let's say that their rematch will indeed happen in 168 lbs. and let's say that Bivol have also agreed to it. The question is, is Canelo Alvarez ready to risk his belts and the undisputed title? I don't think Canelo have the guts to risk his status now because he already know Bivol's capabilities. Remember that supermiddle and lightheavy have only 7 lbs. or 3 mere kilograms of difference. Bivol will surely take that challenge for sure if that's the case, no doubt.

[Yatsan]

If ever both party agreed for a rematch, I wonder which weight Division are they fighting, would it be Canelo's division? or Bivol's division?  If ever Canelo go up in weight division just to fight Bivols in his natural Division, I think we will be seeing the same result like their first fight.

I don't think that Bivol can go and fight at 168 lbs, he has been a true light heavy weight fighter in his career. So most likely if Canelo insisted at this comfortable weight, Bivol is not going to take the fight. Canelo has 2 fights already in light heavy weight so I guess there is no problem for him moving up again and rematch Bivol. Although the result might still be the same as you have said.

Aside from that, Canelo don't have any power now to insist or demand what he want like to settle and contest their rematch in 168 pounds because he is now chasing Bivol, not the other way around. Furthermore, their first encounter happened in Bivol's division, so it's still better to make it happen in light-heavyweight and just like you guys said, this isn't the first time for Canelo.

Depends on the management as well as the hype for their rematch. Money talks, as they like to say. If audiences will really push it, things might change and that includes fighters' plan. Same thing goes with rematch of other fighters or in other fighting sports; a player (often the winner) could just move on and seek for the next contender but if the result won't satisfy the fans, teams of each fighter could negotiate to feed that demand. And I believe same idea implies on choosing their next opponent especially if they are on the same weight category, or if their names happened to be on mainstream and on the same level and in some instances 'ties', on their names.

[YuginKadoya]

Aside from that, Canelo don't have any power now to insist or demand what he want like to settle and contest their rematch in 168 pounds because he is now chasing Bivol, not the other way around. Furthermore, their first encounter happened in Bivol's division, so it's still better to make it happen in light-heavyweight and just like you guys said, this isn't the first time for Canelo.

Yup! he doesn't have any more power to do that and besides he will be thankful if Dmitry Bivol would really want to take that rematch, or if Dmitry Bivol would want to set something he's the one that can surely set it up, but he wants a Unification fight, for me Artur Beterbiev would be a hard fight for him but we will never know Artur Beterbiev is now 37 years old this fight should really happen because we will never know if when Artur Beterbiev would retire from boxing,


But before that, the next big fight in Boxing will be on December 23, and it is the Fury vs. Chisora fight Location will be in Tottenham, London, England, I think this is an awaited event because it is Tyson Fury, and under the card was a regular Heavyweight fight the co-main Daniel Dubois VS Kevin Lerena fight with the EBU European Lightweight Title belt fight Yvan Mendy VS Denis Berinchyk fight and lastly EBU European Light Heavyweight Title belt fight Callum Johnson VS Thomas Faure, I guess there are many title fights in just one event, that is coming this December,

[serjent05]

Aside from that, Canelo don't have any power now to insist or demand what he want like to settle and contest their rematch in 168 pounds because he is now chasing Bivol, not the other way around. Furthermore, their first encounter happened in Bivol's division, so it's still better to make it happen in light-heavyweight and just like you guys said, this isn't the first time for Canelo.

Yup! he doesn't have any more power to do that and besides he will be thankful if Dmitry Bivol would really want to take that rematch, or if Dmitry Bivol would want to set something he's the one that can surely set it up, but he wants a Unification fight, for me Artur Beterbiev would be a hard fight for him but we will never know Artur Beterbiev is now 37 years old this fight should really happen because we will never know if when Artur Beterbiev would retire from boxing,

It is logical to see Bivol and Canelo rematch in the light heavyweight division.  It is the division where the contract is agreed upon and possibly the rematch clause also includes the same division contest.  It is really exciting to see Beterbiev vs. Bivol so hopefully the politics between the two camps settle down and both agree for a unification fight.

But before that, the next big fight in Boxing will be on December 23, and it is the Fury vs. Chisora fight Location will be in Tottenham, London, England, I think this is an awaited event because it is Tyson Fury, and under the card was a regular Heavyweight fight the co-main Daniel Dubois VS Kevin Lerena fight with the EBU European Lightweight Title belt fight Yvan Mendy VS Denis Berinchyk fight and lastly EBU European Light Heavyweight Title belt fight Callum Johnson VS Thomas Faure, I guess there are many title fights in just one event, that is coming this December,

The fight between Tyson Fury and Chisora isn't that attractive.  It looks like Fury just nitpicked Chisora so that he can earn money without any high risk of losing.  If we look at Chisora's record, 12 losses  where two of them is comig from Fury, so this coming fight would possibly be the third losses of Chisora to Fury (2014-11-29 and 2011-07-23)[1].



[1] https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/381739

[Baofeng]

But before that, the next big fight in Boxing will be on December 23, and it is the Fury vs. Chisora fight Location will be in Tottenham, London, England, I think this is an awaited event because it is Tyson Fury, and under the card was a regular Heavyweight fight the co-main Daniel Dubois VS Kevin Lerena fight with the EBU European Lightweight Title belt fight Yvan Mendy VS Denis Berinchyk fight and lastly EBU European Light Heavyweight Title belt fight Callum Johnson VS Thomas Faure, I guess there are many title fights in just one event, that is coming this December,

The fight between Tyson Fury and Chisora isn't that attractive.  It looks like Fury just nitpicked Chisora so that he can earn money without any high risk of losing.  If we look at Chisora's record, 12 losses  where two of them is comig from Fury, so this coming fight would possibly be the third losses of Chisora to Fury (2014-11-29 and 2011-07-23)[1].

Yes, it was a obvious cherry pick fight for Tyson Fury. First, he said that he wanted to fight Usyk, but Usyk said he is not available obviously, he need to his body to heal and rest and the best option for him is next year at his home country. And then he calls Joshua out, for all British Heavyweight showdown, seems they are on the negotiation table, then suddenly it went South. And then they blame each other for the failed fight. And suddenly he announced that we will have a fight with Chisora. A fighter that he already beaten twice. So it doesn't make sense for his fans, but it's a get busy fight for him, so that he will remain active come next year.

[Jawhead999]

Well, let's say that their rematch will indeed happen in 168 lbs. and let's say that Bivol have also agreed to it. The question is, is Canelo Alvarez ready to risk his belts and the undisputed title? I don't think Canelo have the guts to risk his status now because he already know Bivol's capabilities. Remember that supermiddle and lightheavy have only 7 lbs. or 3 mere kilograms of difference. Bivol will surely take that challenge for sure if that's the case, no doubt.

Yeah, Canelo already know he's very struggling when he was fight against Bivol, he wouldn't take risk to lose all of his belts. It will depends on Bivol side, does he's really want to achieve more belts, fame or money? if he want to achieve more belts and fame, he should ask Canelo do a rematch at super middleweight division. If he want to get huge pay check, he will agree do rematch at light heavyweight division.

Personally I'd more interested to see the rematch at super middleweight division since Bivol already risk his belt before, next should be Canelo turn.

[YuginKadoya]

It is logical to see Bivol and Canelo rematch in the light heavyweight division.  It is the division where the contract is agreed upon and possibly the rematch clause also includes the same division contest.  It is really exciting to see Beterbiev vs. Bivol so hopefully the politics between the two camps settle down and both agree for a unification fight.

It is a surely exciting fight if that Unification matchup against both undefeated would surely commence, but sad thing is that politics have suppressed the fans from seeing this fight, for me, I really want to see Dmitry Bivol VS Artur Beterbiev for sure it will be one hell of a fight, but if it can not continue, for me Canelo Alvarez would do,

The fight between Tyson Fury and Chisora isn't that attractive.  It looks like Fury just nitpicked Chisora so that he can earn money without any high risk of losing.  If we look at Chisora's record, 12 losses  where two of them is comig from Fury, so this coming fight would possibly be the third losses of Chisora to Fury (2014-11-29 and 2011-07-23)[1].

Well, even though Derek Chisora isn't a very attractive fighter to watch against Tyson Fury, this is the only fight we have on December 3, well the only fight available, but what I want to see is a fight between Tyson Fury VS Francis Ngannou if possible, there is no thrill in watching another Deontay Wilder, or even an Anthony Joshua fight isn't really credible aswell, and Anthony Joshua doesn't want anything to do with Tyson Fury maybe he realizes that he doesn't really go to defeat Tyson Fury for sure, and staying away from him to get another lost,

[TopTort777]

Guys, dont forget that Artur Beterbiev is facing Anthony Yarde in 2023. This fight was originally postponed due to Beterbievs injury. Fight with Yarde, recovery and preparation period - looks like Beterbievs next fight could only happen in summer 2023. This is a very long pause for Bivol. That pause can be filled with either with Canelo (not likely) or by Joe Smith Jr. for example. Top3 in light heavy. He is also looking to recover reputation after a loss to Beterbiev and to have a rematch with Bivol. It could be a win-win solution for Smith. Bivol vs Smith could be the next fight.

[Japinat]

If ever both party agreed for a rematch, I wonder which weight Division are they fighting, would it be Canelo's division? or Bivol's division?  If ever Canelo go up in weight division just to fight Bivols in his natural Division, I think we will be seeing the same result like their first fight.

I don't think that Bivol can go and fight at 168 lbs, he has been a true light heavy weight fighter in his career. So most likely if Canelo insisted at this comfortable weight, Bivol is not going to take the fight. Canelo has 2 fights already in light heavy weight so I guess there is no problem for him moving up again and rematch Bivol. Although the result might still be the same as you have said.

Aside from that, Canelo don't have any power now to insist or demand what he want like to settle and contest their rematch in 168 pounds because he is now chasing Bivol, not the other way around. Furthermore, their first encounter happened in Bivol's division, so it's still better to make it happen in light-heavyweight and just like you guys said, this isn't the first time for Canelo.

Depends on the management as well as the hype for their rematch. Money talks, as they like to say. If audiences will really push it, things might change and that includes fighters' plan. Same thing goes with rematch of other fighters or in other fighting sports; a player (often the winner) could just move on and seek for the next contender but if the result won't satisfy the fans, teams of each fighter could negotiate to feed that demand. And I believe same idea implies on choosing their next opponent especially if they are on the same weight category, or if their names happened to be on mainstream and on the same level and in some instances 'ties', on their names.

It's a money fight for sure especially if the name Canelo Alvarez is fighting, any stadium will surely be fully booked if he's fighting. And it's not about hype at all because this is a redemption fight for Canelo even if his chances is still low against the LHW champion and a rematch clause is included in their contract as well, that is why Canelo can always make it happen.

Just like with the Kambosos-Haney fight, Kambosos activated a rematch in just weeks after he was defeated in their first encounter and Haney can't do anything at all because it was included on their contract and the fact they signed it means that they agreed on all the terms.

[inthelongrun]

Guys, dont forget that Artur Beterbiev is facing Anthony Yarde in 2023. This fight was originally postponed due to Beterbievs injury. Fight with Yarde, recovery and preparation period - looks like Beterbievs next fight could only happen in summer 2023. This is a very long pause for Bivol. That pause can be filled with either with Canelo (not likely) or by Joe Smith Jr. for example. Top3 in light heavy. He is also looking to recover reputation after a loss to Beterbiev and to have a rematch with Bivol. It could be a win-win solution for Smith. Bivol vs Smith could be the next fight.

After Canelo saw how Bivol made it easy against a bigger guy with probably the same power he has, he is not probably going to rematch Bivol. I think Canelo will face an easier opponent next. The WBC already inserted at number 1 an unknown Russian named Pavel Silyagin with an 11-0-5 win-loss-KO record to make it an excuse that Canelo will fight a ranked 1 opponent.

Bivol already beat Smith Jr. before and it was not even close. WBA ranked 1 (Joshua Buatsi) and 2 (Callum Smith) are also both promoted by Matchroom and are easy to set.

Last weekend, another casualty of boxing happened. Aidos Yerbossynuly 16-1-11 KOs received heavy blows to his head before it was stopped in the last round. Praying for Aidos' fast recovery and hopefully, he won't become a PWD. David Morrell, 8-0-7 KOs is another potential Canelo Alvarez opponent as he holds the WBA regular belt.

[Fredomago]

If ever both party agreed for a rematch, I wonder which weight Division are they fighting, would it be Canelo's division? or Bivol's division?  If ever Canelo go up in weight division just to fight Bivols in his natural Division, I think we will be seeing the same result like their first fight.

I don't think that Bivol can go and fight at 168 lbs, he has been a true light heavy weight fighter in his career. So most likely if Canelo insisted at this comfortable weight, Bivol is not going to take the fight. Canelo has 2 fights already in light heavy weight so I guess there is no problem for him moving up again and rematch Bivol. Although the result might still be the same as you have said.

Aside from that, Canelo don't have any power now to insist or demand what he want like to settle and contest their rematch in 168 pounds because he is now chasing Bivol, not the other way around. Furthermore, their first encounter happened in Bivol's division, so it's still better to make it happen in light-heavyweight and just like you guys said, this isn't the first time for Canelo.

Depends on the management as well as the hype for their rematch. Money talks, as they like to say. If audiences will really push it, things might change and that includes fighters' plan. Same thing goes with rematch of other fighters or in other fighting sports; a player (often the winner) could just move on and seek for the next contender but if the result won't satisfy the fans, teams of each fighter could negotiate to feed that demand. And I believe same idea implies on choosing their next opponent especially if they are on the same weight category, or if their names happened to be on mainstream and on the same level and in some instances 'ties', on their names.

It's a money fight for sure especially if the name Canelo Alvarez is fighting, any stadium will surely be fully booked if he's fighting. And it's not about hype at all because this is a redemption fight for Canelo even if his chances is still low against the LHW champion and a rematch clause is included in their contract as well, that is why Canelo can always make it happen.

Just like with the Kambosos-Haney fight, Kambosos activated a rematch in just weeks after he was defeated in their first encounter and Haney can't do anything at all because it was included on their contract and the fact they signed it means that they agreed on all the terms.

If Canelo will push for another money fight, taking the risk of asking a rematch may be negotiated and activated but who knows he and his camp may think about it, Bivol's fighting style is superb as he can adjust just like Canelo from his original division, maybe we might hear update or we will need to wait if they will going to make this fight happen, so far Bivol may go further and challenge Beterbiev if the champ still holding the belt when they start negotiating.

[Slow death]

Last weekend, another casualty of boxing happened. Aidos Yerbossynuly 16-1-11 KOs received heavy blows to his head before it was stopped in the last round. Praying for Aidos' fast recovery and hopefully, he won't become a PWD. David Morrell, 8-0-7 KOs is another potential Canelo Alvarez opponent as he holds the WBA regular belt.

after reading your post, I ran to see if there was any recent news about his health status, but apparently his family is not telling his real health status, I saw some cases like these and the family when they see that the health situation is very serious, they tend to hide it so that the press and more people know, from what I've read this fight should have ended sooner, that was Ronnie Shields' opinion... maybe if the referee had ended the fight. fight earlier the situation would not have reached this serious level and they are currently hiding his actual health status to avoid bad comments, i hope i am wrong, does anyone have any current news on how he is in health? if he is not already in a coma?

[Kasabus]

It is logical to see Bivol and Canelo rematch in the light heavyweight division.  It is the division where the contract is agreed upon and possibly the rematch clause also includes the same division contest.

I guess we will hear an update about it soon because Bivol didn't disclose any good information regarding their rematch as he's looking forward for a unification and not a rematch in any opponent he had already defeated. And if ever you guys forgot, Canelo can't fight until next year because of the injury he sustained in his wrist.

Here's an update:

Canelo Alvarez revealed that he fought Gennadiy Golovkin with an injured left wrist and that he could be out of action until September 2023.

Canelo’s injury could delay his potential rematch with WBA light heavyweight champion Dmitry Bivol, who defeated him last May.

If Canelo needs a tune-up when he returns to the ring in 2023, his rematch with Bivol will likely be pushed back to 2024.

Source

It is really exciting to see Beterbiev vs. Bivol so hopefully the politics between the two camps settle down and both agree for a unification fight.

If I remember it correctly, Bob Arum already agreed to a unification fight considering that Artur Beterbiev will successfully defend his title versus Anthony Yarde and as long as it won't be televised under Eddie Hearn's Matchroom Boxing. For that case, Bob can demand because Beterbiev is on the A-side. Let's just hope that there won't be any serious issues so that we will see a unification fight next year.

[YuginKadoya]

^
Speaking of Matchroom Boxing and before the Tyson Fury VS Derek Chisora fight there will be an upcoming match this coming November 26,

Whyte vs. Franklin

Saturday 11.26.2022 at 02:00 PM ET
Promotion: Matchroom Boxing
Location: Wembley, London, United Kingdom



MAIN-EVENT
Heavyweight: Dillian Whyte VS Jermaine Franklin

MAIN CARD
Heavyweight: Fabio Wardley VS Nathan Gorman
Light Heavyweight: Craig Richards VS Ricards Bolotniks
Super Lightweight: Magali Rodriguez VS Sandy Ryan

All information was from TAPOLOGY

[inthelongrun]

Last weekend, another casualty of boxing happened. Aidos Yerbossynuly 16-1-11 KOs received heavy blows to his head before it was stopped in the last round. Praying for Aidos' fast recovery and hopefully, he won't become a PWD. David Morrell, 8-0-7 KOs is another potential Canelo Alvarez opponent as he holds the WBA regular belt.

after reading your post, I ran to see if there was any recent news about his health status, but apparently his family is not telling his real health status, I saw some cases like these and the family when they see that the health situation is very serious, they tend to hide it so that the press and more people know, from what I've read this fight should have ended sooner, that was Ronnie Shields' opinion... maybe if the referee had ended the fight. fight earlier the situation would not have reached this serious level and they are currently hiding his actual health status to avoid bad comments, i hope i am wrong, does anyone have any current news on how he is in health? if he is not already in a coma?

Aidos Yerbossynuly is still in an induced coma mate. Maybe the operation is still not complete. Really hoping for a speedy recovery on Aidos. This is pretty sure the end of his career but hopefully, he will wake up without a disability.

It is normal that some people will look for who to blame for accidents like this. I cannot really blame anyone because this is boxing and this is not a game. Nonetheless, maybe his head coach and his team should've stopped it earlier. In the absence of his team's willingness to stop it, referee Tony Weeks should've done better like warning his team or Aidos himself or even calling the ringside doctor since it was a one-sided fight.

[Oasisman]

Last weekend, another casualty of boxing happened. Aidos Yerbossynuly 16-1-11 KOs received heavy blows to his head before it was stopped in the last round. Praying for Aidos' fast recovery and hopefully, he won't become a PWD. David Morrell, 8-0-7 KOs is another potential Canelo Alvarez opponent as he holds the WBA regular belt.

Yeah I saw that one too and it's very unfortunate that Yerbossnuly was heavily punished by his opponent that has him hospitalised.
On the other hand, Morrell Jr. Is such a rising boxing superstar. The kid has the speed, power, and precision. He's for sure gonna be under everyone's radar after this devastating victory. That was such a heavy blow that even him (Morrell Jr.) knew how much damage it does to his opponent, that he was able to help Yerbossnuly get up after he collapsed after he got KO'd.

Can't wait to watch for his next fight.

[Kemarit]

^ Yes, same here, have read about this case and maybe boxing analyst says that the Yerbossnuly shouldn't take this much punishment and hopefully he can fully recovered from it. It was his corner and probably the referee as well that should have enough this fight and it shouldn't have to be this way, and probably he wouldn't take more punishments.

And for sure this what separates boxing from UFC, not saying that boxing refs are not doing their job, but they should have read the body language of the fighter and should have stop it much early as they have the control to do it. And Tony Weeks is a veteran referee, not sure why he didn't called this one up and stop the fight.