Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[suchmoon]

I want to say that raising the flag over Vysokopolye and taking three more villages (by the way, which ones?) is too thin a result for a week of suicidal attacks on an open field as part of a counteroffensive that has been prepared since the beginning of summer.

LOL that's really weak sauce for someone who was boasting about capturing some villages in Donbas, didn't get any new talking points?

The "open field" is just a tiny part of the counteroffensive. All those bavovna also mean something. The disappearing of bridges and daily attacks on ferries basically makes the invaders surrounded. Ukrainians don't need to go guns blazing into Kherson, they can slowly squeeze them until the inevitable "good will gesture". Or if the brilliant Russian military strategists decide to send more reinforcements cannon fodder - that can work out well for Ukrainians too, meaning less pressure elsewhere.

Twist it as you want, but the momentum is clearly shifting. Capture Kyiv in 3 days -> capture some villages in Donbas -> try to hold on to some villages in Donbas -> ah shit, lost some villages near Kherson, no big deal -> next I suppose will be a retreat from Kherson and some desperate attempt to reinforce the land corridor through Melitopol because that's being himarsed daily too.

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[af_newbie]

I want to say that raising the flag over Vysokopolye and taking three more villages (by the way, which ones?) is too thin a result for a week of suicidal attacks on an open field as part of a counteroffensive that has been prepared since the beginning of summer.

LOL that's really weak sauce for someone who was boasting about capturing some villages in Donbas, didn't get any new talking points?

The "open field" is just a tiny part of the counteroffensive. All those bavovna also mean something. The disappearing of bridges and daily attacks on ferries basically makes the invaders surrounded. Ukrainians don't need to go guns blazing into Kherson, they can slowly squeeze them until the inevitable "good will gesture". Or if the brilliant Russian military strategists decide to send more reinforcements cannon fodder - that can work out well for Ukrainians too, meaning less pressure elsewhere.

Twist it as you want, but the momentum is clearly shifting. Capture Kyiv in 3 days -> capture some villages in Donbas -> try to hold on to some villages in Donbas -> ah shit, lost some villages near Kherson, no big deal -> next I suppose will be a retreat from Kherson and some desperate attempt to reinforce the land corridor through Melitopol because that's being himarsed daily too.

When their 98th and 45th SF brigades are wiped out south of Vysokopillya, they will 'strategically withdraw' from Kherson to 'secure' the land bridge to Crimea.

The talking heads on RTV (and be.open) will be saying that it is all according to Putin's master plan to defend Russian speakers in Donbas.

Kherson front will be forgotten, just like the fronts on Kyiv and Sumy.

The only way to deal with the occupiers and their collaborators is to physically eliminate them.

There is no other way.

[Branko]

I want to say that raising the flag over Vysokopolye and taking three more villages (by the way, which ones?) is too thin a result for a week of suicidal attacks on an open field as part of a counteroffensive that has been prepared since the beginning of summer.

LOL that's really weak sauce for someone who was boasting about capturing some villages in Donbas, didn't get any new talking points?

The "open field" is just a tiny part of the counteroffensive. All those bavovna also mean something. The disappearing of bridges and daily attacks on ferries basically makes the invaders surrounded. Ukrainians don't need to go guns blazing into Kherson, they can slowly squeeze them until the inevitable "good will gesture". Or if the brilliant Russian military strategists decide to send more reinforcements cannon fodder - that can work out well for Ukrainians too, meaning less pressure elsewhere.

Twist it as you want, but the momentum is clearly shifting. Capture Kyiv in 3 days -> capture some villages in Donbas -> try to hold on to some villages in Donbas -> ah shit, lost some villages near Kherson, no big deal -> next I suppose will be a retreat from Kherson and some desperate attempt to reinforce the land corridor through Melitopol because that's being himarsed daily too.

Cmon, you cheer for every dead Slav, be it Ukrainian or Russian

[johhnyUA]

The video doesn't show poor people, it's fucked up.

Yes yes, hobos are not poor. This is typycal russian move to justify what happens in russia with poor people on the streets.

Well, I hope this photo of the Ukrainian flag in Vysokopolye justifies the several thousand dead soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine during the week of the counterattack on Kherson.

Your propaganda is bad, you should have written several tens of thousands to make it more convincing. ...

Do not be to hard on him, it is difficult to be the latest intern in a Kremlin Troll farm and he is having some multiple personality issues.

His "son" and "hacker friend" as we can see now are already dead. After they get fired from signature campaigns participation 

LOL that's really weak sauce for someone who was boasting about capturing some villages in Donbas, didn't get any new talking points?

One page back this troll tried to told us that ukrainian counter offensive failed. And now we have some territories liberated. Again, "failed" 

[VKcams.com]

Yes yes, hobos are not poor. This is typycal russian move to justify what happens in russia with poor people on the streets.

https://youtu.be/SKfBDAevh-0?t=37

[suchmoon]

Cmon, you cheer for every dead Slav, be it Ukrainian or Russian

Not that your putinist snark deserves a response, but I don't "cheer" for dead Russians or Ukrainians or whatever "slav" is (sounds like a Soviet excuse for fucking up half of post-WWII Europe).

I do think that Ukrainians can and should defend their land by any appropriate means, including killing the invaders, but they obviously don't need my permission to do so and have been doing it quite successfully given the difficult circumstances.

Edit - case in point: rumor has it that the occupation "commandant" of Berdyansk may have suffered injuries incompatible with life as a result of his car spontaneously catching fire. Smoking kills again.

[BADecker]

Russia’s “Dead Hand” nuclear defense system can autonomously send out hundreds of nukes even after the country endures a nuclear first strike

If Europe or the United States ever went nuclear against Russia and fired the first shots, the Russian nuclear defense system is designed to annihilate its enemies autonomously, even after the country is converted to a wasteland. The Russian nuclear defense system consists of 700 nuclear weapon “carriers” — strategic bombers, nuclear submarines and intercontinental ballistic missile silos — that are poised to unleash hundreds of autonomous nuclear missiles, even if the country is already obliterated by a nuclear attack and no human operators are available. This autonomous “Perimeter” system is called “Dead Hand” and it was created in the wake of the Cold War as a fail safe retaliation defense system to deter nuclear threats from the West.

Russia’s Dead Hand system ensures total destruction of the world if nuclear weapons are used against Russia

After the United States tested out two nuclear missiles over the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, the Soviet military command better understood the capabilities of the West and their intemperate manner of war.

To deter a potential nuclear strike on Russian soil, the Soviet military command needed a missile defense system that could operate even if its own human operators were taken out. It would only take one enemy nuclear missile to destroy a command post, knocking out the entire operations for their nuclear facilities. Likewise, advances in radio-electronic warfare threatened standard control channels, potentially putting the entire country’s nuclear arsenal at risk. This is why the Soviet military developed a retaliatory nuclear defense system that could strike from all the intercontinental missile silos without human operators.

This led to the development of an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM). In the event of an all-out nuclear war, the hub could be launched, activating hundreds of atomic projectile silos across the Russian territory. This master silo was constructed in the mid-1970s and was explicitly designed to withstand a direct nuclear hit. It was equipped with flight coordinates and radio transmitting equipment that could activate all other missiles across the country during its flight.

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[DaRude]

I want to say that raising the flag over Vysokopolye and taking three more villages (by the way, which ones?) is too thin a result for a week of suicidal attacks on an open field as part of a counteroffensive that has been prepared since the beginning of summer.

LOL that's really weak sauce for someone who was boasting about capturing some villages in Donbas, didn't get any new talking points?

The "open field" is just a tiny part of the counteroffensive. All those bavovna also mean something. The disappearing of bridges and daily attacks on ferries basically makes the invaders surrounded. Ukrainians don't need to go guns blazing into Kherson, they can slowly squeeze them until the inevitable "good will gesture". Or if the brilliant Russian military strategists decide to send more reinforcements cannon fodder - that can work out well for Ukrainians too, meaning less pressure elsewhere.

Twist it as you want, but the momentum is clearly shifting. Capture Kyiv in 3 days -> capture some villages in Donbas -> try to hold on to some villages in Donbas -> ah shit, lost some villages near Kherson, no big deal -> next I suppose will be a retreat from Kherson and some desperate attempt to reinforce the land corridor through Melitopol because that's being himarsed daily too.

When their 98th and 45th SF brigades are wiped out south of Vysokopillya, they will 'strategically withdraw' from Kherson to 'secure' the land bridge to Crimea.

The talking heads on RTV (and be.open) will be saying that it is all according to Putin's master plan to defend Russian speakers in Donbas.

Kherson front will be forgotten, just like the fronts on Kyiv and Sumy.

The only way to deal with the occupiers and their collaborators is to physically eliminate them.

There is no other way.

So partial population of Kherson, Zaporizhia, Donetsk and everyone in Luhansk and Crimea?

Just the population of Crimea is 2,416,856. So how many millions do you want to physically eliminate exactly? Guessing priority for you would be eliminating the elderly as they were born in USSR and the most prone to collaborate? All of the kids too, or you think up to certain age there's still a chance to reeducate them in the camps?

Edit:
What about sympathizers, do you feel the need to physically eliminate them too?

around 2 000 people have gathered at Augustusplatz in Leipzig city centre to begin what has been proclaimed as a “hot autumn” to protest.
...
The AfD further called on the government to stop the sanctions war, which is leading to a sharp increase in prices.
...
Demonstrators demanded the “immediate capping of electricity prices” and for officials to secure direct contracts with gas suppliers at low prices, and further called for the resignation of the government and military neutrality.

https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/other/wave-of-protests-in-europe-over-high-cost-of-living-energy-prices/ar-AA11vR61

[af_newbie]

I want to say that raising the flag over Vysokopolye and taking three more villages (by the way, which ones?) is too thin a result for a week of suicidal attacks on an open field as part of a counteroffensive that has been prepared since the beginning of summer.

LOL that's really weak sauce for someone who was boasting about capturing some villages in Donbas, didn't get any new talking points?

The "open field" is just a tiny part of the counteroffensive. All those bavovna also mean something. The disappearing of bridges and daily attacks on ferries basically makes the invaders surrounded. Ukrainians don't need to go guns blazing into Kherson, they can slowly squeeze them until the inevitable "good will gesture". Or if the brilliant Russian military strategists decide to send more reinforcements cannon fodder - that can work out well for Ukrainians too, meaning less pressure elsewhere.

Twist it as you want, but the momentum is clearly shifting. Capture Kyiv in 3 days -> capture some villages in Donbas -> try to hold on to some villages in Donbas -> ah shit, lost some villages near Kherson, no big deal -> next I suppose will be a retreat from Kherson and some desperate attempt to reinforce the land corridor through Melitopol because that's being himarsed daily too.

When their 98th and 45th SF brigades are wiped out south of Vysokopillya, they will 'strategically withdraw' from Kherson to 'secure' the land bridge to Crimea.

The talking heads on RTV (and be.open) will be saying that it is all according to Putin's master plan to defend Russian speakers in Donbas.

Kherson front will be forgotten, just like the fronts on Kyiv and Sumy.

The only way to deal with the occupiers and their collaborators is to physically eliminate them.

There is no other way.

So partial population of Kherson, Zaporizhia, Donetsk and everyone in Luhansk and Crimea?

Just the population of Crimea is 2,416,856. So how many millions do you want to physically eliminate exactly? Guessing priority for you would be eliminating the elderly as they were born in USSR and the most prone to collaborate? All of the kids too, or you think up to certain age there's still a chance to reeducate them in the camps?

Edit:
What about sympathizers, do you feel the need to physically eliminate them too?

around 2 000 people have gathered at Augustusplatz in Leipzig city centre to begin what has been proclaimed as a “hot autumn” to protest.
...
The AfD further called on the government to stop the sanctions war, which is leading to a sharp increase in prices.
...
Demonstrators demanded the “immediate capping of electricity prices” and for officials to secure direct contracts with gas suppliers at low prices, and further called for the resignation of the government and military neutrality.

https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/other/wave-of-protests-in-europe-over-high-cost-of-living-energy-prices/ar-AA11vR61

False equivalence.

Demonstrators in Leipzig do not bomb Berlin, rape and plunder East Germany or shoot and kill civilians.

Right now, all pro-Russian material support in Ukraine is equivalent to armed aggression as it causes the deaths of defenders
and must be met with lethal force.

BTW, gas prices are dropping due to falling oil prices because of lower demand despite the supply shock created by Russia.

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[VKcams.com]

The only way to deal with the occupiers and their collaborators is to physically eliminate them.

There is no other way.

Make up your mind whether Bandera is good or bad.

[af_newbie]

The only way to deal with the occupiers and their collaborators is to physically eliminate them.

There is no other way.

Make up your mind whether Bandera is good or bad.

Are you comparing today's Russia to Nazi Germany? BTW, Bandera was not an ethnic German.
Insurgents in Donetsk and Luhansk do not fight both Russia and Ukraine. Ukrainian insurgent army fought both the Soviets and
Germans during WWII. So your comparison needs work.

I think Bandera was a national hero as he fought for the independence of Ukraine and was imprisoned by the Germans and was
killed by the Soviets.

If your question is about whether I support ultra-nationalist parties in Ukraine like Right Sector, well, no, I do not.
I am all for political pluralism, secularism, and progressive values.

BTW, ultra-nationalists have ZERO political power in current-day Ukraine.

Ultra-nationalist parties in other countries (France, Germany, Russia, or USA) are actually represented in their parliaments.

Ultra-nationalist parties have the right to exist in liberal democracies, IMHO.

The danger is when they have too much political power and turn into one-party dictatorships. Usually through coercion and/or force.

This war has nothing to do with "freeing people of Donbas", or "protecting the Russian language", it is all about a land grab and ethnic cleansing.

If it was about the independence of Donetsk and Luhansk republics, Russia would not be involved. As these would fight both
Ukraine and Russia to gain their independence.

To suggest otherwise is complete insanity.

Zelensky is a native Russian speaker, and he is Jewish. Putin is trying to kill him since Feb 24th.

Who is the bad guy here?

PS. All occupiers and their collaborators in this war need to be eliminated.

If you live in Ukraine and you want to live in Russia, you go and live in Russia. Who is stopping you?

[VKcams.com]

Putin is trying to kill him since Feb 24th.

Is it so hard to give the link or does it not exist again?

[af_newbie]

Putin is trying to kill him since Feb 24th.

Is it so hard to give the link or does it not exist again?

Do you have access to Google? Use VPN and Enter "Zelensky assassination attempts" in any search engine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_attempts_on_Volodymyr_Zelenskyy

[coolcoinz]

So, what you're trying to show with this one? It's war and loses is inevitable. But these thousands of Ukrainians killed in few days of counteroffensive reminds other fairytales from Russian Defense ministry like destroyed all Ukrainian aviation in first days of war, destroyed (I lost count already) HIMARS and it's loading vehicles, which doesn't even exist.

Don't forget about shooting down more Bayraktars than Ukraine ever had

I want to say that raising the flag over Vysokopolye and taking three more villages (by the way, which ones?) is too thin a result for a week of suicidal attacks on an open field as part of a counteroffensive that has been prepared since the beginning of summer.

How about an attack planned for months with the use of superior firepower including the Spetsnaz, the 331st with the help of Lukashenko and Kadyrov, that was to take Kiev in 3 days and failed miserably? Are you, Russians, really going to laugh at the Ukrainian counteroffensive when you're running out of bullets and asking North Korea for help? Big and proud Russia is going to ask the pariah of the world for military aid. How low the mighty have fallen...

[VKcams.com]

Putin is trying to kill him since Feb 24th.

Is it so hard to give the link or does it not exist again?

Do you have access to Google? Use VPN and Enter "Zelensky assassination attempts" in any search engine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_attempts_on_Volodymyr_Zelenskyy

These are ципco fairy tales.

[BADecker]

We are starting on toward the end. I wonder who will back down first: Europe, NATO, US, Russia?


Russian Foreign Ministry now hinting at Europe-wide war

Today the Russian Foreign Ministry made a remark, on the record, to Russia's Sputnik News Service which changes the entire dynamic concerning the Russia-Ukraine Conflict, and the remark is frighteningly ominous.

Commenting about the situation and the actions taken by the European Union and United States, the foreign Ministry told Sputnik "The security of the European continent is at risk due to EU action in Ukraine."

Did you get that?  Did that sink in?  "The security of the European continent is at risk due to EU action in Ukraine."

That remark, casually reported by Sputnik, seems to convey to those paying attention, that Europe is now risking a very much wider war over the things it has done, and continues to do, in Ukraine.

It seems to some keen observers that Russia is coming to the conclusion that they may have to take all of Europe.

Of course, that would mean a NATO versus Russia war and we already know that in such an event, NATO would declare Article five self defense.   We also know that if NATO declares article five self defense against Russia, that Russia will unleash its nuclear arsenal.  President Vladimir Putin make this explicitly clear, with his public remarks in February saying "If NATO declares Article 5 against Russia, it will be a war that no one will win."

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[johhnyUA]

Do you have access to Google? Use VPN and Enter "Zelensky assassination attempts" in any search engine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_attempts_on_Volodymyr_Zelenskyy

These are ципco fairy tales.

Wikipedia, CNN, Business Insider and others are "ципco" parts, am I right? This is your main point here?

So, what you're trying to show with this one? It's war and loses is inevitable. But these thousands of Ukrainians killed in few days of counteroffensive reminds other fairytales from Russian Defense ministry like destroyed all Ukrainian aviation in first days of war, destroyed (I lost count already) HIMARS and it's loading vehicles, which doesn't even exist.

Don't forget about shooting down more Bayraktars than Ukraine ever had

And destroying around 44 Himars (despite only 16 are in ukrainian service at all).
Russians love to create such "coolstories". For honest, I'm not sure why they're doing this.

[DaRude]

I want to say that raising the flag over Vysokopolye and taking three more villages (by the way, which ones?) is too thin a result for a week of suicidal attacks on an open field as part of a counteroffensive that has been prepared since the beginning of summer.

LOL that's really weak sauce for someone who was boasting about capturing some villages in Donbas, didn't get any new talking points?

The "open field" is just a tiny part of the counteroffensive. All those bavovna also mean something. The disappearing of bridges and daily attacks on ferries basically makes the invaders surrounded. Ukrainians don't need to go guns blazing into Kherson, they can slowly squeeze them until the inevitable "good will gesture". Or if the brilliant Russian military strategists decide to send more reinforcements cannon fodder - that can work out well for Ukrainians too, meaning less pressure elsewhere.

Twist it as you want, but the momentum is clearly shifting. Capture Kyiv in 3 days -> capture some villages in Donbas -> try to hold on to some villages in Donbas -> ah shit, lost some villages near Kherson, no big deal -> next I suppose will be a retreat from Kherson and some desperate attempt to reinforce the land corridor through Melitopol because that's being himarsed daily too.

When their 98th and 45th SF brigades are wiped out south of Vysokopillya, they will 'strategically withdraw' from Kherson to 'secure' the land bridge to Crimea.

The talking heads on RTV (and be.open) will be saying that it is all according to Putin's master plan to defend Russian speakers in Donbas.

Kherson front will be forgotten, just like the fronts on Kyiv and Sumy.

The only way to deal with the occupiers and their collaborators is to physically eliminate them.

There is no other way.

So partial population of Kherson, Zaporizhia, Donetsk and everyone in Luhansk and Crimea?

Just the population of Crimea is 2,416,856. So how many millions do you want to physically eliminate exactly? Guessing priority for you would be eliminating the elderly as they were born in USSR and the most prone to collaborate? All of the kids too, or you think up to certain age there's still a chance to reeducate them in the camps?

Edit:
What about sympathizers, do you feel the need to physically eliminate them too?

around 2 000 people have gathered at Augustusplatz in Leipzig city centre to begin what has been proclaimed as a “hot autumn” to protest.
...
The AfD further called on the government to stop the sanctions war, which is leading to a sharp increase in prices.
...
Demonstrators demanded the “immediate capping of electricity prices” and for officials to secure direct contracts with gas suppliers at low prices, and further called for the resignation of the government and military neutrality.

https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/other/wave-of-protests-in-europe-over-high-cost-of-living-energy-prices/ar-AA11vR61

False equivalence.

Demonstrators in Leipzig do not bomb Berlin, rape and plunder East Germany or shoot and kill civilians.

Right now, all pro-Russian material support in Ukraine is equivalent to armed aggression as it causes the deaths of defenders
and must be met with lethal force.

BTW, gas prices are dropping due to falling oil prices because of lower demand despite the supply shock created by Russia.

Cheap attempt at a straw man, now care to address the question? Do you consider people who get RU passports, work for and receive salaries and pensions in RUB as collaborators? What about people that vote to secede from UA (like Crimea)? Care to put a number, roughly how many collaborators there are that you feel should be physically eliminated? And the part about the children of collaborators, what do you want to do with them?

[coolcoinz]

And destroying around 44 Himars (despite only 16 are in ukrainian service at all).
Russians love to create such "coolstories". For honest, I'm not sure why they're doing this.

That was explained. I read somewhere that Ukrainians were making wooden replicas and heating them up from inside with simple grills or gas cookers to fool the thermal imaging of Russian scouting drones and get Russians to attempt kalibr strikes. Russians, knowing the missiles weren't intercepted and hit their targets relied on images from their drones and marked those as destroyed himars launchers. Kalibrs are quite expensive so even if we believe that some of those 44 hits were real units not dummies it still looks pretty bad for the Russians.