Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[af_newbie]

I want to say that raising the flag over Vysokopolye and taking three more villages (by the way, which ones?) is too thin a result for a week of suicidal attacks on an open field as part of a counteroffensive that has been prepared since the beginning of summer.

LOL that's really weak sauce for someone who was boasting about capturing some villages in Donbas, didn't get any new talking points?

The "open field" is just a tiny part of the counteroffensive. All those bavovna also mean something. The disappearing of bridges and daily attacks on ferries basically makes the invaders surrounded. Ukrainians don't need to go guns blazing into Kherson, they can slowly squeeze them until the inevitable "good will gesture". Or if the brilliant Russian military strategists decide to send more reinforcements cannon fodder - that can work out well for Ukrainians too, meaning less pressure elsewhere.

Twist it as you want, but the momentum is clearly shifting. Capture Kyiv in 3 days -> capture some villages in Donbas -> try to hold on to some villages in Donbas -> ah shit, lost some villages near Kherson, no big deal -> next I suppose will be a retreat from Kherson and some desperate attempt to reinforce the land corridor through Melitopol because that's being himarsed daily too.

When their 98th and 45th SF brigades are wiped out south of Vysokopillya, they will 'strategically withdraw' from Kherson to 'secure' the land bridge to Crimea.

The talking heads on RTV (and be.open) will be saying that it is all according to Putin's master plan to defend Russian speakers in Donbas.

Kherson front will be forgotten, just like the fronts on Kyiv and Sumy.

The only way to deal with the occupiers and their collaborators is to physically eliminate them.

There is no other way.

So partial population of Kherson, Zaporizhia, Donetsk and everyone in Luhansk and Crimea?

Just the population of Crimea is 2,416,856. So how many millions do you want to physically eliminate exactly? Guessing priority for you would be eliminating the elderly as they were born in USSR and the most prone to collaborate? All of the kids too, or you think up to certain age there's still a chance to reeducate them in the camps?

Edit:
What about sympathizers, do you feel the need to physically eliminate them too?

around 2 000 people have gathered at Augustusplatz in Leipzig city centre to begin what has been proclaimed as a “hot autumn” to protest.
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The AfD further called on the government to stop the sanctions war, which is leading to a sharp increase in prices.
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Demonstrators demanded the “immediate capping of electricity prices” and for officials to secure direct contracts with gas suppliers at low prices, and further called for the resignation of the government and military neutrality.

https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/other/wave-of-protests-in-europe-over-high-cost-of-living-energy-prices/ar-AA11vR61

False equivalence.

Demonstrators in Leipzig do not bomb Berlin, rape and plunder East Germany or shoot and kill civilians.

Right now, all pro-Russian material support in Ukraine is equivalent to armed aggression as it causes the deaths of defenders
and must be met with lethal force.

BTW, gas prices are dropping due to falling oil prices because of lower demand despite the supply shock created by Russia.

Cheap attempt at a straw man, now care to address the question? Do you consider people who get RU passports, work for and receive salaries and pensions in RUB as collaborators? What about people that vote to secede from UA (like Crimea)? Care to put a number, roughly how many collaborators there are that you feel should be physically eliminated? And the part about the children of collaborators, what do you want to do with them?

It is simple, if they have Ukrainian citizenship, they can stay in Ukraine. If they provided material support to the Russian army they broke Ukrainian law and will probably be prosecuted. Unless there will be amnesty for them. They will be free to leave the territory of Ukraine
and give up their citizenship, if they so desire.

All Russians without Ukrainian papers are tourists in Ukraine and will be deported.

There was no legal referendum in Crimea or Donbas/Luhansk. Read the constitution of Ukraine.

Dual citizenship is technically not allowed in Ukraine. So I am not sure how the Ukrainian government will treat all the people who
accepted Russian citizenship after Feb. 2014. Maybe they will consider them as Russian citizens without Ukrainian visas.

People who help organize illegal, pro-Russian 'government' on the territory of Ukraine should be eliminated, one way or another.

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[suchmoon]

Cheap attempt at a straw man, now care to address the question? Do you consider people who get RU passports, work for and receive salaries and pensions in RUB as collaborators? What about people that vote to secede from UA (like Crimea)? Care to put a number, roughly how many collaborators there are that you feel should be physically eliminated? And the part about the children of collaborators, what do you want to do with them?

You're reaching desperately, up to and including accusing someone else of "straw man" while yourself providing only dramatized straw man arguments.

Look up collaborator in a dictionary. It tends to be defined as a person who is part of the enemy government or military, i.e. basically a traitor. Probably a legitimate military target in any case, so killing them during war is fair game. But that's not about regular citizens who may or may not use rubles. Or children.

[johhnyUA]

That was explained. I read somewhere that Ukrainians were making wooden replicas and heating them up from inside with simple grills or gas cookers to fool the thermal imaging of Russian scouting drones and get Russians to attempt kalibr strikes. Russians, knowing the missiles weren't intercepted and hit their targets relied on images from their drones and marked those as destroyed himars launchers. Kalibrs are quite expensive so even if we believe that some of those 44 hits were real units not dummies it still looks pretty bad for the Russians.

Yes, I know all of that. Also, need to add that russian Orlan has very bad video channel, imaga quality is like from VHS era (https://t.me/m0sc0wcalling/8466) So it was easy to trick them

And also, main problem for russian is not the price of Calibr missile, rather the fact that they don't have components to create new missiles.

[paxmao]

I want to say that raising the flag over Vysokopolye and taking three more villages (by the way, which ones?) is too thin a result for a week of suicidal attacks on an open field as part of a counteroffensive that has been prepared since the beginning of summer.

LOL that's really weak sauce for someone who was boasting about capturing some villages in Donbas, didn't get any new talking points?

The "open field" is just a tiny part of the counteroffensive. All those bavovna also mean something. The disappearing of bridges and daily attacks on ferries basically makes the invaders surrounded. Ukrainians don't need to go guns blazing into Kherson, they can slowly squeeze them until the inevitable "good will gesture". Or if the brilliant Russian military strategists decide to send more reinforcements cannon fodder - that can work out well for Ukrainians too, meaning less pressure elsewhere.

Twist it as you want, but the momentum is clearly shifting. Capture Kyiv in 3 days -> capture some villages in Donbas -> try to hold on to some villages in Donbas -> ah shit, lost some villages near Kherson, no big deal -> next I suppose will be a retreat from Kherson and some desperate attempt to reinforce the land corridor through Melitopol because that's being himarsed daily too.

Easy Win
May require "convincing"
We are on a long path to glory
Oh, well just a set-back
This is looking a bit difficult
What? They are actually attacking us?                                      <-- Kremlin trolls are here.
Seems like our army is making many gestures of "good will"
Ah, marvellous defence of the Rodina ongoing.
That victory near Moscow was awesome.
I have to learn Ukrainian.

An object that is going into an opposite direction first stops, then goes backward.

[BADecker]

^^^ The Ukrainian army has been making many gestures of good will to the Russians. The Russians point their guns and say "die." And the Ukrainians simply - maybe even cheerfully - obey.

[johhnyUA]

Easy Win
May require "convincing"
We are on a long path to glory
Oh, well just a set-back
This is looking a bit difficult
What? They are actually attacking us?                                      <-- Kremlin trolls are here.
Seems like our army is making many gestures of "good will"
Ah, marvellous defence of the Rodina ongoing.
That victory near Moscow was awesome.
I have to learn Ukrainian.

An object that is going into an opposite direction first stops, then goes backward.

Ahaha, exactly! You get a point

By the way, here is so-called "lost counteroffensive" (as clown be.open said)



If "lost counteroffensive" is to return 600 km² in 3 days, then i don't know what to call "succesfull counteroffensive"

[be.open]

If "lost counteroffensive" is to return 600 km² in 3 days, then i don't know what to call "succesfull counteroffensive"

I spoke about the offensive in the Kherson direction, which, due to the open terrain, was doomed to turn into a senseless meat grinder, which actually happened. In the Izyum direction, the prospects for the Armed Forces of Ukraine are more interesting - there is a wooded terrain, a shallow and easy to cross even ford river, and the same dramatic shortage of personnel in the Russian army, as in general for this special operation. Congratulations, now it really looks like a counteroffensive. Dispelled my boredom, otherwise it turned into beating children.

[Lucius]

Orcs in panic flight, beardless young men and pensioners are not worthy opponents of the brave Ukrainian army. A message for Russian trolls on the forum, before the bunch of nonsense you will usually write, visit the Telegram of one of your most popular bloggers Igor Girkin who is a former FSB colonel.

We've already lost, it's only a matter of time

https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1567947757075271680
https://twitter.com/ngumenyuk/status/1567971444172406784
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1568145712176836608

[BADecker]

Who really are the trolls?

Russia's whole idea behind this police action was to bring safety to Russian and some Ukrainian people... average, common citizens. But it is very hard to do when the Ukraine military hides among the citizens, thereby using them as human shields.

Let the Ukraine military come out into the open, away from the cities... moving between their cities and the Russian military, thereby fighting to protect the cities... not cowardly hiding among the cities to be protected by them. Russia is only fighting for the people. Ukraine is fighting to conquer the people, wherever they can be found. And they are using dirty tactics in their fighting to do it.

[be.open]

Ukrainian pensioner 'shoots down £74million Russian Su-34 jet with a RIFLE and is awarded a medal for his heroism'

It's time for fucking stories lol.

[TwitchySeal]

Ukrainian pensioner 'shoots down £74million Russian Su-34 jet with a RIFLE and is awarded a medal for his heroism'

It's time for fucking stories lol.

Wow, you found some click bait headline from the daily mail.  Nice work!

Seems like it's a mostly true story, they're just making it seem like he shot down the jet on his own in the headline, which isn't the case. 

[suchmoon]

By the way, here is so-called "lost counteroffensive" (as clown be.open said)

Gotta love pyccкий миp... first thing they do is replace/repaint town signs but in 8 years can't figure out water supply in Donetsk (and there are likely places in Russia that are worse than Donetsk and haven't had war in 70+ years).

[johhnyUA]

visit the Telegram of one of your most popular bloggers Igor Girkin who is a former FSB colonel.

I advice you not reading this guy. A lot of trustworthy people assume that he is a part of russian psy-ops. Trough this manner of posting he also provides some thoughts and ideas which may serve russians goals on the informational battlefield.

Gotta love pyccкий миp... first thing they do is replace/repaint town signs but in 8 years can't figure out water supply in Donetsk (and there are likely places in Russia that are worse than Donetsk and haven't had war in 70+ years).

I don't know why, but water in Donetsk dissaperead after the war started. Before everything was fine with it. But again, this is funny that "second worlds superpower" (as russians like to descrive themselves) can't provide water in already like 7 months.

[suchmoon]

I don't know why, but water in Donetsk dissaperead after the war started. Before everything was fine with it. But again, this is funny that "second worlds superpower" (as russians like to descrive themselves) can't provide water in already like 7 months.

Weren't they getting the water from the Ukrainian side all those years and not bothering to establish their own wells/pumps/reservoirs etc? I thought that's what happened and then they started the invasion in February thinking "well take Kyiv in 3 days so why bother planning ahead".


Anyway, I found the secret plan of Kherson counteroffensive, now it all makes sense, doesn't it:

[TwitchySeal]

I thought that's what happened and then they started the invasion in February thinking "well take Kyiv in 3 days so why bother planning ahead".

And it would be naive and foolish to think otherwise!

Ukrainians will be fighting Russian aggressors to death.

Well, that means they'll die.

Yes, Captain Obvious, aggressors will die. That's the whole point.

In Kyiv on May 9 2022, a traditional parade will be held in honor of the victory of the USSR over Nazi Germany. It is naive and foolish to doubt it.

[johhnyUA]

Good meme 



In russian, arctic fox is "пeceц"

And "fucked up" is "пиздeц"
As you can see, "пeceц" и "пиздeц" very similar in their pronounce and how they built. So people often use "пeceц" if they don't want to sound very rude.


P.S: But as for now, this picture isn't actual anymore. Ukrainians have already taken Izum, Vovchansk and other cities in Kharkiv oblast.

[BADecker]

Today, Saturday, the war maps look like Russia is being pushed back by the Ukrainians. And that is really good news for Russia.

Russia never really wanted to hurt Ukraine in the first place. And Russian success in other parts of the world is showing that they can stop hurting Ukraine while saving their own troops. The reasons are that Europe is backing off on sanctions; NATO is stepping aside to avoid nukes; the US economy is making the people force Biden to slow down his support of Ukraine; BRICS is gaining steam; other countries are starting to favor Russia more; probably a whole bunch of reasons that aren't listed here... like Hunter Biden news coming out as to how bad Joe really is.

But it's all good news. It means that the war is almost over, and that Zelensky won't have much choice but to surrender soon. This will mean that many Ukrainian lives and lands will be saved from death and destruction.

Just to show you who is winning, where is the war being fought? Mother Russia isn't being threatened at all. It's the Ukraine that is in turmoil.

[af_newbie]

Today, Saturday, the war maps look like Russia is being pushed back by the Ukrainians. And that is really good news for Russia.

Russia never really wanted to hurt Ukraine in the first place. And Russian success in other parts of the world is showing that they can stop hurting Ukraine while saving their own troops. The reasons are that Europe is backing off on sanctions; NATO is stepping aside to avoid nukes; the US economy is making the people force Biden to slow down his support of Ukraine; BRICS is gaining steam; other countries are starting to favor Russia more; probably a whole bunch of reasons that aren't listed here... like Hunter Biden news coming out as to how bad Joe really is.

But it's all good news. It means that the war is almost over, and that Zelensky won't have much choice but to surrender soon. This will mean that many Ukrainian lives and lands will be saved from death and destruction.

Just to show you who is winning, where is the war being fought? Mother Russia isn't being threatened at all. It's the Ukraine that is in turmoil.

They left everything behind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tODnq81o2fg

Next will have a 'strategic withdrawal' from Kherson to protect Crimea.

Then a 'withdrawal' from Donbas to protect Kuban, and from Kuban to protect Moscow, from Moscow to protect Ural mountains etc.

[LTU_btc]

They left everything behind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tODnq81o2fg

Next will have a 'strategic withdrawal' from Kherson to protect Crimea.

Then a 'withdrawal' from Donbas to protect Kuban, and from Kuban to protect Moscow, from Moscow to protect Ural mountains etc.

It's fun to watch how Russian propagandists are reacting to counteroffensive. Like Konashenkov today said that withdrawal of troops from Kharkiv oblast is made to boost efforts in Donetsk oblast and achieve main goals of ''special military operation:
https://t.me/uniannet/71600
How many times they already changed goals of this operation''?  How about ''denazification'' and demilitarization of Ukraine?
And I didn't expected such fast progress of this counteroffensive. Russia were fighting for these cities for so much time and they lost it all in few days. 2nd army in the world

[paxmao]

I have read in some media that there are actually serious protests against Putin, publicly and from relevant politicians in St Petersburg and even Moscow. For now I class this as rumours but these have not published before. The disconnect between Putin and the real needs of the RF citizens, particularly the younger ones and those who have not a direct connection with the apparatchiks.

I thought this was very difficult, but it may actually lead Putin and his Psychos to a full withdrawal... or a withdrawal from the world of the living depending on how bad it goes.

I don't know why, but water in Donetsk dissaperead after the war started. Before everything was fine with it. But again, this is funny that "second worlds superpower" (as russians like to descrive themselves) can't provide water in already like 7 months.

Weren't they getting the water from the Ukrainian side all those years and not bothering to establish their own wells/pumps/reservoirs etc? I thought that's what happened and then they started the invasion in February thinking "well take Kyiv in 3 days so why bother planning ahead".


Anyway, I found the secret plan of Kherson counteroffensive, now it all makes sense, doesn't it:

Dam it! Those are the ones I left over the garden table at Mar-a-Lago! You are the gardener, aren't you?

Ukrainian pensioner 'shoots down £74million Russian Su-34 jet with a RIFLE and is awarded a medal for his heroism'

It's time for fucking stories lol.

Oh, if you like stories, I think you will be glad to know that Putin as signed as the new Marlborough Man now that he is about to be demoted.