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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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January 22, 2023, 08:02:31 AM
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I also don't want to be fascinated by Manchester City's squad too much. I believe they have the best squad among the Champions League teams now.

But this doesn't guarantee anything for them about winning the title anyway. Haaland is of course an incredible addition as we have witnessed his performance so far. However there are still matches that they lose very unexpectedly in the end. Maybe they will get stuck in one of the stages in the Champions League like the previous season. Who knows maybe Real Madrid would be their opponent again and we would see a similar scenario. Guardiola has a really difficult task to perform for reaching the title.

Manchester City have a better squad and they are one of the most successful team in the Champions league,  Manchester City have been struggling to win the Champions league but I'm not still sure if they can get it this season.  The Champions league in this season is very competitive with other strong teams.
There are so many clubs that are better than. city. You can't even be called that one of the most successful team in UCL caused by it doesn't have even a single trophy of UCL. City was an overrated team, unlike real madrid still remains king of UCL. Real madrid was the most successful team in UCL. It has been proven by real madrid that won 14 times of UCL, unlike city that doesn't have a single trophy in its trophy cabinet. Im not seeing any great achievement by city other than EPL. Chelsea has a better history compared with city.
This is the fact.

For this season Manchester City's performance has been quite consistent in the Champions League, Pep Guardiola's team managed to penetrate the round of 16 with statistics of four wins, two draws and no defeats. I agree that Real Madrid is the king of the Champions League
Teams like Paris Saint-Germain, Manchester City have great potential to reach the final based on their stats so far

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January 22, 2023, 08:03:40 AM
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Madueke, Joao Felix, Fofana, and Mudryk,  are the latest players that have joined Chelsea, if u check those players non of them is a midfielder for that one shouldn't say that Chelsea has very complete players in every position. Chelsea still has a big problem and that is the midfield. If you make a careful analysis from the past matches, u will discover that their mistake all came from the midfield. I am so surprised that they have little taste in fixing it.

Chelsea seems to be managing both Potter and the players than people actually think of Potter as the main character of Chelsea, the decisions of those new signings are mostly not his but the new management, he said something in metaphor regarding the new Chelsea new players after their yesterday match against Liverpool. If the management or the new owner feels the strikers are their problem in which to some extent I think, they would see the result in time.

It has been a while since I watched Dortmund matches in Bundesliga but when I checked their performance, they are clearly falling out of the top standing by losing matches, it isn't too late for Chelsea to adjust to the new players if they want to advance out of the group of 16.

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January 22, 2023, 08:16:44 AM
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Dortmund is not doing well in the Bundesliga, Chelsea are playing unsuccessful matches in the Premier league.  I'm quite curious about the pairing between the two.  If there is one thing I know, it is that I am eagerly waiting for this match to be played.  Chelsea's players are better and they're a few qualities better than Dortmund.  Dortmund will try hard and they definitely have a chance.  Still, as I said, I see Chelsea as the team that is close to passing the round.
It is indeed very surprising to see Dortmund and Chelsea in their respective regular leagues always get bad results in their matches. Even though Chlesea has spent a lot of money to buy new players, it is still difficult for them to win and last night they were held to a draw when they met Liverpool. Meanwhile, Dortmund this season is also not as good as the previous season, but they will play their first match today in their regular league, at least that can be a good reference to show maximum performance before facing Chelsea in the last 16 of the UCL later.

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January 22, 2023, 10:30:07 AM
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Dortmund is not doing well in the Bundesliga, Chelsea are playing unsuccessful matches in the Premier league.  I'm quite curious about the pairing between the two.  If there is one thing I know, it is that I am eagerly waiting for this match to be played.  Chelsea's players are better and they're a few qualities better than Dortmund.  Dortmund will try hard and they definitely have a chance.  Still, as I said, I see Chelsea as the team that is close to passing the round.
It is indeed very surprising to see Dortmund and Chelsea in their respective regular leagues always get bad results in their matches. Even though Chlesea has spent a lot of money to buy new players, it is still difficult for them to win and last night they were held to a draw when they met Liverpool. Meanwhile, Dortmund this season is also not as good as the previous season, but they will play their first match today in their regular league, at least that can be a good reference to show maximum performance before facing Chelsea in the last 16 of the UCL later.
Maybe we can say, who has the most luck, then that team will be the winner in their match later. Because the main reason is that we don't see anything special shown by them in their respective leagues. The two teams tend to be said to be bad with results that are always unsatisfactory when passing week after week.
They have more than 3 weeks to prepare very thoroughly. We'll see who can make good use of the remaining time. I hope the match will not be boring to watch.

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January 22, 2023, 10:48:21 AM
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Maybe we can say, who has the most luck, then that team will be the winner in their match later. Because the main reason is that we don't see anything special shown by them in their respective leagues. The two teams tend to be said to be bad with results that are always unsatisfactory when passing week after week.
They have more than 3 weeks to prepare very thoroughly. We'll see who can make good use of the remaining time. I hope the match will not be boring to watch.
Dortmund may have had a better run of form than Chelsea this season. although in the Champions League, we can see our predictions are wrong.
because there is still enough time and several matches before the meeting between the two. I'm sure they will maximize the few matches before the meeting to strengthen their strategy and play. I think the meeting of the two will be interesting. they have almost the same strength. just hope that both of them show their best performance with their best squad too.

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January 22, 2023, 11:53:22 AM
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Sincerely, Chelsea winning the champions league is very unlikely to happen because of their poor form, maybe they can try in the next season but for this season I doubt it will happen. The team is unstable and needs some more time to get organised especially with the new signings. Real Madrid, PSG and Manchester city are far ahead of Chelsea, the blues will need a miracle to win the champions league this season.

Yes, we agree that there are a number of problems that the Blues must fix first. I very much doubt Chelsea will be able to qualify for the next round phase, maybe to overthrow Dortmund in the last 16 round later, Graham Potter's squad has a chance for that.

but it will not be easy to overthrow their opponent later, because Dortmund looks like they will start the second Bundesliga season with a positive trend. Now, Edin Terzic's squad have no problem with their injured players, Sabastien Haller may be Dortmund's differentiator in the second half of the season in their domestic league. but, this is just my assumption how it will be later. let's see, Dortmund will carry out the match today in its domestic league.

Speaking of Chelsea, I think at least Potter needs time to bring Chelsea to a big change. especially to win the Champions League trophy, it seems almost impossible. because, there are many teams that are more established in terms of play, strength, readiness, and most importantly mentally. As for the newcomers that Chelsea have brought in this January transfer window, IMO, that is Todd Boehly's long project, for the next season.

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January 22, 2023, 01:02:45 PM
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Manchester City have a better squad and they are one of the most successful team in the Champions league,  Manchester City have been struggling to win the Champions league but I'm not still sure if they can get it this season.  The Champions league in this season is very competitive with other strong teams.
Currently seeing the performance of the Manchester City team looking to be getting better and superior, and most of the fact that Manchester City is the most successful club in the Champions League at the moment makes them believe that Manchester City will become champions this season, we are a little doubtful about this. Meanwhile this is a very competitive Champions League and there are a lot of bigger and stronger clubs who have quite good material here.
like Real Madrid and also Bayern Munich, we see that their achievements are bigger than Manchester City, apart from that, several clubs here still look very consistent in the Champions League.

Even though Manchester City have a good team squad, we doubt they can achieve it this season, considering there are clubs who have performed more consistently than them.
What is the measure of success according to you? By often playing in the Champions League? or by becoming a champion? I can't say they are one of the most successful teams in this Champions League because they are still fighting for trophies here. I don't doubt they have a very promising squad, but they have to prove that by achieving achievements here. Because in the Champions League, having a very good squad is not the only measure they will win the title.

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January 22, 2023, 01:16:13 PM
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I also don't want to be fascinated by Manchester City's squad too much. I believe they have the best squad among the Champions League teams now.

But this doesn't guarantee anything for them about winning the title anyway. Haaland is of course an incredible addition as we have witnessed his performance so far. However there are still matches that they lose very unexpectedly in the end. Maybe they will get stuck in one of the stages in the Champions League like the previous season. Who knows maybe Real Madrid would be their opponent again and we would see a similar scenario. Guardiola has a really difficult task to perform for reaching the title.

City last year, even in games with crisis Atlético experienced problems. They could lose even before they meet Real (if Real go far at all). City have a great squad and probably in a round-robin tournament they would be clear favorites, but in knockout games, how the bookmakers evaluate them is simply ridiculous - the odds for City to win the Champions League are 2.45. In second place is Bayern with a chance of 6.45. Absolute nonsense. City is not so stronger than all the others.

I agree with you. It seems to me that bookmakers simply compare clubs by the value of their players and make their calculations and predictions based on that.
Football is much more complex and unpredictable than that, because if the favorites always won, then Brazil would be the world champion in the last few world cups, and Manchester City and/or PSG would win the Champions League all the time.
We know that Manchester City and PSG still, after investing a lot of time and money, failed to achieve their main goal, to become champions of Europe, and it is obvious that in football money can't buy everything.
I would say that more important than that is the unity in the team, and the physical and mental strength of the players.
That's why I'm again favoring Real this season to win the Champions League.


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January 22, 2023, 01:30:05 PM
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Maybe we can say, who has the most luck, then that team will be the winner in their match later. Because the main reason is that we don't see anything special shown by them in their respective leagues. The two teams tend to be said to be bad with results that are always unsatisfactory when passing week after week.
They have more than 3 weeks to prepare very thoroughly. We'll see who can make good use of the remaining time. I hope the match will not be boring to watch.
Dortmund may have had a better run of form than Chelsea this season. although in the Champions League, we can see our predictions are wrong.
because there is still enough time and several matches before the meeting between the two. I'm sure they will maximize the few matches before the meeting to strengthen their strategy and play. I think the meeting of the two will be interesting. they have almost the same strength. just hope that both of them show their best performance with their best squad too.
The problem facing Chelsea is now very severe, entering the new year Chelsea was immediately hit with a storm of injuries, unfortunately the injured players are core players, so far 10 Chelsea players have been injured, starting from goalkeepers, midfielders and attackers, maybe because this situation makes you so sure dourmount can beat Chelsea in the Champions league, but in my personal opinion even though Chelsea is down but I believe Chelsea can keep up with dourmount's game and I also believe Chelsea can win a ticket to the last eight of the Champions league.

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Maybe we can say, who has the most luck, then that team will be the winner in their match later. Because the main reason is that we don't see anything special shown by them in their respective leagues. The two teams tend to be said to be bad with results that are always unsatisfactory when passing week after week.
They have more than 3 weeks to prepare very thoroughly. We'll see who can make good use of the remaining time. I hope the match will not be boring to watch.
Dortmund may have had a better run of form than Chelsea this season. although in the Champions League, we can see our predictions are wrong.
because there is still enough time and several matches before the meeting between the two. I'm sure they will maximize the few matches before the meeting to strengthen their strategy and play. I think the meeting of the two will be interesting. they have almost the same strength. just hope that both of them show their best performance with their best squad too.
The problem facing Chelsea is now very severe, entering the new year Chelsea was immediately hit with a storm of injuries, unfortunately the injured players are core players, so far 10 Chelsea players have been injured, starting from goalkeepers, midfielders and attackers, maybe because this situation makes you so sure dourmount can beat Chelsea in the Champions league, but in my personal opinion even though Chelsea is down but I believe Chelsea can keep up with dourmount's game and I also believe Chelsea can win a ticket to the last eight of the Champions league.
Chelsea still have a better hand in the knock out stage of the CL. Dortmund is also having their own internal crisis just has Chelsea is currently. In terms of strength i won't support any team but i just counting on Potter to do justice to this challenge that awaits them.

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January 22, 2023, 04:08:16 PM
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Maybe we can say, who has the most luck, then that team will be the winner in their match later. Because the main reason is that we don't see anything special shown by them in their respective leagues. The two teams tend to be said to be bad with results that are always unsatisfactory when passing week after week.
They have more than 3 weeks to prepare very thoroughly. We'll see who can make good use of the remaining time. I hope the match will not be boring to watch.
Dortmund may have had a better run of form than Chelsea this season. although in the Champions League, we can see our predictions are wrong.
because there is still enough time and several matches before the meeting between the two. I'm sure they will maximize the few matches before the meeting to strengthen their strategy and play. I think the meeting of the two will be interesting. they have almost the same strength. just hope that both of them show their best performance with their best squad too.
The problem facing Chelsea is now very severe, entering the new year Chelsea was immediately hit with a storm of injuries, unfortunately the injured players are core players, so far 10 Chelsea players have been injured, starting from goalkeepers, midfielders and attackers, maybe because this situation makes you so sure dourmount can beat Chelsea in the Champions league, but in my personal opinion even though Chelsea is down but I believe Chelsea can keep up with dourmount's game and I also believe Chelsea can win a ticket to the last eight of the Champions league.

I am one with you. The most serious problem for Chesley now is their injury problem. Several key players are out of the squad due to injuries. As a result, Chelsea's performance is now completely unstable. And with such a performance it is not possible to go far in the Champions League. Chelsea's next match is against Dortmund. So Chelsea must prepare their main squad properly.
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January 22, 2023, 04:31:59 PM
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I agree with you. It seems to me that bookmakers simply compare clubs by the value of their players and make their calculations and predictions based on that.
Football is much more complex and unpredictable than that, because if the favorites always won, then Brazil would be the world champion in the last few world cups, and Manchester City and/or PSG would win the Champions League all the time.
We know that Manchester City and PSG still, after investing a lot of time and money, failed to achieve their main goal, to become champions of Europe, and it is obvious that in football money can't buy everything.
I would say that more important than that is the unity in the team, and the physical and mental strength of the players.
That's why I'm again favoring Real this season to win the Champions League.
I agree with you, with the composition of the players currently owned by PSG and also Man City, they should have won the UCL a few years ago, but in fact all of that is not a determinant because there are various factors that make a team successful in becoming a UCL champion

teams like Madrid and Bayern always surprise and these two teams often win the UCL, so without getting rid of Madrid and Bayern it is impossible for another team to win the UCL

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January 22, 2023, 05:13:33 PM
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City last year, even in games with crisis Atlético experienced problems. They could lose even before they meet Real (if Real go far at all). City have a great squad and probably in a round-robin tournament they would be clear favorites, but in knockout games, how the bookmakers evaluate them is simply ridiculous - the odds for City to win the Champions League are 2.45. In second place is Bayern with a chance of 6.45. Absolute nonsense. City is not so stronger than all the others.

I agree with you. It seems to me that bookmakers simply compare clubs by the value of their players and make their calculations and predictions based on that.
Football is much more complex and unpredictable than that, because if the favorites always won, then Brazil would be the world champion in the last few world cups, and Manchester City and/or PSG would win the Champions League all the time.
We know that Manchester City and PSG still, after investing a lot of time and money, failed to achieve their main goal, to become champions of Europe, and it is obvious that in football money can't buy everything.
I would say that more important than that is the unity in the team, and the physical and mental strength of the players.
That's why I'm again favoring Real this season to win the Champions League.

In tournaments with playoff stage, yes, money can't buy everything (although it can buy a lot). Unfortunately, in round robin tournaments, money bags easily achieve results. Their resource is simply incomparable with other honest clubs. Nevertheless, this season at least (if a terrible thing happens and one of the cheating clubs win the Champions League) one pleasant event will happen: either City or PSG will once again be left without the desired trophy  Grin

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January 22, 2023, 05:22:43 PM
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City and PSG are football machines, but that has taken some time. You can't buy a team with money alone, but if you can buy any player you want, and you have a good coach, it's a bit easier to make a good team. PSG and City are both world teams and have been among the best teams in the world for years, but neither have managed to win the CL. Both reached the final once, but what is that worth if you lose that final? That's not what you do it for. And Messi must also be crazy by now that he is unable to win the CL. For that we have to go way back in time. This season it is also difficult because you first have to pass Bayern Munich.

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January 22, 2023, 05:29:19 PM
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Dortmund is not doing well in the Bundesliga, Chelsea are playing unsuccessful matches in the Premier league.  I'm quite curious about the pairing between the two.  If there is one thing I know, it is that I am eagerly waiting for this match to be played.  Chelsea's players are better and they're a few qualities better than Dortmund.  Dortmund will try hard and they definitely have a chance.  Still, as I said, I see Chelsea as the team that is close to passing the round.
It is indeed very surprising to see Dortmund and Chelsea in their respective regular leagues always get bad results in their matches. Even though Chlesea has spent a lot of money to buy new players, it is still difficult for them to win and last night they were held to a draw when they met Liverpool. Meanwhile, Dortmund this season is also not as good as the previous season, but they will play their first match today in their regular league, at least that can be a good reference to show maximum performance before facing Chelsea in the last 16 of the UCL later.
Regardless between Chelsea and Dortmund have poor performance in domestic league but Chelsea have bigger chance in UEFA Champion League after spent much money for several new player recruitment. No doubt with how many new player arrived, Chelsea still difficult to win actually on last match against Liverpool.

Left few weeks later before 16 round UEFA Champion League begin and Chelsea or Dortmund still have enough time back to top performance, however with Chelsea have more experience in Champion League I think favorite and have chance for Chelsea lead to quarter final than Dortmund.

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January 22, 2023, 05:32:34 PM
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Dortmund is not doing well in the Bundesliga, Chelsea are playing unsuccessful matches in the Premier league.  I'm quite curious about the pairing between the two.  If there is one thing I know, it is that I am eagerly waiting for this match to be played.  Chelsea's players are better and they're a few qualities better than Dortmund.  Dortmund will try hard and they definitely have a chance.  Still, as I said, I see Chelsea as the team that is close to passing the round.
It is indeed very surprising to see Dortmund and Chelsea in their respective regular leagues always get bad results in their matches. Even though Chlesea has spent a lot of money to buy new players, it is still difficult for them to win and last night they were held to a draw when they met Liverpool. Meanwhile, Dortmund this season is also not as good as the previous season, but they will play their first match today in their regular league, at least that can be a good reference to show maximum performance before facing Chelsea in the last 16 of the UCL later.
Both are down, but I prefer Chelsea who are more favored with all their downturn in the English league. A great team that should have been an interesting encounter if they were in very good shape, but instead they met at a time when they were both out of shape. I hope their current condition will not affect the course of the match later, because if it does then the match will be monotonous in my opinion.

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January 22, 2023, 05:48:38 PM
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City and PSG are football machines, but that has taken some time. You can't buy a team with money alone, but if you can buy any player you want, and you have a good coach, it's a bit easier to make a good team. PSG and City are both world teams and have been among the best teams in the world for years, but neither have managed to win the CL. Both reached the final once, but what is that worth if you lose that final? That's not what you do it for. And Messi must also be crazy by now that he is unable to win the CL. For that we have to go way back in time. This season it is also difficult because you first have to pass Bayern Munich.

I think PSG and Manchester City are still two different teams, even though they are rich teams but they have differences in management. I think, PSG is still not completely good even though PSG has a lot of luxury players, but PSG doesn't have the right coach.
So that became one of the reasons their management was not good, so that in the end it was difficult for PSG to reach the Champions League final from season to season.

But about Manchester City I think it's clear, Manchester City has everything with the best quality but unfortunately, Manchester City still failed to win the Champions League title. I think it's because the Manchester City squad still doesn't fully have a high winning mentality, so Manchester City failed in the Champions League final even though at that time Manchester City was very favored to win.

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January 22, 2023, 06:31:35 PM
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And Chelsea winning the Champions League will be one of my biggest shock in football history, if I was told Chelsea would be Champions of Europe I'd never come to full agreement with anyone.
Manchester City who splashed the cash has lost when they came so close to winning the Champions League twice which has made Pep Guardiola frustrated. Lossing to Chelsea during the finals and also to Real Madrid after leading comfortably, they slacked and let Real Madrid take the win.

Real Madrid are very poor in the link up from midfied to defense, if they don't improve they're going no where near the Champions League Finals. Major tips would fall on Paris Saint Germans and Manchester City to win the Champions League.
Sincerely, Chelsea winning the champions league is very unlikely to happen because of their poor form, maybe they can try in the next season but for this season I doubt it will happen. The team is unstable and needs some more time to get organised especially with the new signings. Real Madrid, PSG and Manchester city are far ahead of Chelsea, the blues will need a miracle to win the champions league this season.

If you take your time to read thoroughly, you'll see that I never said or made predictions of  Chelsea winning the league this season. They'll get a chance against Borrussia Dortmund but the next meeting ? Believe me they'll be back home to struggle for top four.
I only said, Chelsea winning the Champions League against Manchester City last two seasons will be my biggest shock in the Champions League.

It'll probably take Chelsea like another ten years before they get to win the Champions League once again. My tips would still be either of Manchester City and Parisans League 1 defending Champions.

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January 22, 2023, 06:32:22 PM
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It is indeed very surprising to see Dortmund and Chelsea in their respective regular leagues always get bad results in their matches. Even though Chlesea has spent a lot of money to buy new players, it is still difficult for them to win and last night they were held to a draw when they met Liverpool. Meanwhile, Dortmund this season is also not as good as the previous season, but they will play their first match today in their regular league, at least that can be a good reference to show maximum performance before facing Chelsea in the last 16 of the UCL later.
Maybe we can say, who has the most luck, then that team will be the winner in their match later. Because the main reason is that we don't see anything special shown by them in their respective leagues. The two teams tend to be said to be bad with results that are always unsatisfactory when passing week after week.
They have more than 3 weeks to prepare very thoroughly. We'll see who can make good use of the remaining time. I hope the match will not be boring to watch.
I think it's not going to be the luckier one winning but whichever team will be more unlucky lol. I am sure that one of the teams will have some unlucky bounce, or like some great shots hitting woodwork, or a player making a split second mistake etc etc and suddenly the other team will win. It's not going to be easy to handle all of this, it's going to be quite tough and that's why I highly suggest that the best thing to do would be not betting on this game.

I am not planning on it, Chelsea and Dortmund has been terrible so far and I have to say it's going to take a while before they could be trusted to win a game, and neither look better than the other one so it's better if I stay away.

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January 22, 2023, 07:22:22 PM
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If you take your time to read thoroughly, you'll see that I never said or made predictions of  Chelsea winning the league this season. They'll get a chance against Borrussia Dortmund but the next meeting ? Believe me they'll be back home to struggle for top four.
I only said, Chelsea winning the Champions League against Manchester City last two seasons will be my biggest shock in the Champions League.

It'll probably take Chelsea like another ten years before they get to win the Champions League once again. My tips would still be either of Manchester City and Parisans League 1 defending Champions.
I do not agree about this Chelsea needs another ten years to win the Champions League because now soccer is very quickly changing and things are having faster than our imagination no one was thinking Newcastle United and Manchester United will be able to fight for the top ranks in English League but right now these both are at the third and fourth spot because they have better coaching and good amount to invest on quality players so same rule apply in case of Chelsea as they are spending amount even having not positive change, but surely things will be changed, and they will be able to have results like Arsenal in near future.

In this season, most chances they will be out of the competition in quarterfinal because things are not favourable for them and they are trying to adjust their winning unit which is taking time and Graham Potter is positive with the support of management to have good change in near future.

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