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February 10, 2024, 04:01:03 AM
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More then a year after OP the AI theme is still alive and strong, even possibly growing stronger by the day.  I still dont know if this is absolutely possible but the chances or probability of attempts to win by betting via AI and/or with assistance are surely greater every day.    AI seems to be not just pure hype or driven by hope but an actual development ongoing maybe humble at start but in estimation progressively a powerful tool in multiple sectors; I want to come back in a year and see even more progress lets hope so.   Then only then do we have to really worry about the rules, its too good so now we have to limit it?  We should be so lucky  Grin
That's because AI is getting better because a lot of people are working on it to continuously improve and it's absolutely possible but I believe that it's going to take a really long time before AI is something that's totally accurate when it comes to predictions because right now. I do believe it will eventually go to a point where it can accurately give you what you need to know and be as good as the chess AIs of the modern day but it's a long time probably and I will think that a lot of people that's going to be affected by AI is going to be trying their best to impede it's progress.



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February 10, 2024, 08:45:11 AM
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Yeah, it looks like you have things under control, and that's great.

As long as you keep it that way you'll have a great time.

Because at the end of the day you are paying for that entertainment, and it's a expense under control, so it's all good.

The issue starts when you overspend on this.
Well, I'm not that good at controlling myself. I still need to learn a lot to be able to control myself well because I feel like I often lose self-control when gambling. That's because I can still be tempted by the offers I see at the casino and will try to participate in getting them.

But I try to have fun playing gambling and always try to limit the money even though I realize it is something difficult. But I'm sure that by learning to control myself, I will be able to protect my money so that I don't lose too much gambling. Yes, problems will arise when we start spending too much money. That is why we must always limit ourselves properly when gambling.

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February 10, 2024, 10:43:08 AM
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While the popularity of ChatGPT is undeniable, I would not rely on artificial intelligence for betting predictions. Sporting events are complex and subject to unpredictable factors such as injuries, player fitness and even luck. Artificial intelligence algorithms are trained on huge amounts of data, which can inadvertently bias their predictions. The dynamic nature of sport means that unforeseen events can have a significant impact on outcomes that artificial intelligence models find difficult to predict. Such circumstances can significantly alter the course of a game. Sports excitement thrives on passion, analysis, and intuition that artificial intelligence models cannot replicate. Making informed predictive decisions requires a comprehensive understanding of the sport, the players, and the current conditions
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February 11, 2024, 09:31:18 AM
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While the popularity of ChatGPT is undeniable, I would not rely on artificial intelligence for betting predictions. Sporting events are complex and subject to unpredictable factors such as injuries, player fitness and even luck. Artificial intelligence algorithms are trained on huge amounts of data, which can inadvertently bias their predictions. The dynamic nature of sport means that unforeseen events can have a significant impact on outcomes that artificial intelligence models find difficult to predict. Such circumstances can significantly alter the course of a game. Sports excitement thrives on passion, analysis, and intuition that artificial intelligence models cannot replicate. Making informed predictive decisions requires a comprehensive understanding of the sport, the players, and the current conditions

Sure, it's a random event after all.

But, the casinos have to generate a set of odds, combining a lot of information.

Sometimes, there might be some information out there that is not picked up by the casinos, and that's when an AI system might be an advantage.

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February 11, 2024, 03:29:37 PM
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More then a year after OP the AI theme is still alive and strong, even possibly growing stronger by the day.  I still dont know if this is absolutely possible but the chances or probability of attempts to win by betting via AI and/or with assistance are surely greater every day.    AI seems to be not just pure hype or driven by hope but an actual development ongoing maybe humble at start but in estimation progressively a powerful tool in multiple sectors; I want to come back in a year and see even more progress lets hope so.   Then only then do we have to really worry about the rules, its too good so now we have to limit it?  We should be so lucky  Grin
That's because AI is getting better because a lot of people are working on it to continuously improve and it's absolutely possible but I believe that it's going to take a really long time before AI is something that's totally accurate when it comes to predictions because right now. I do believe it will eventually go to a point where it can accurately give you what you need to know and be as good as the chess AIs of the modern day but it's a long time probably and I will think that a lot of people that's going to be affected by AI is going to be trying their best to impede it's progress.
AI's ability to match chess AIs in all domains? Not convinced. Because human brilliance is unmatched, AI is pursuing a moving target. Our agility and deception are unmatched by algorithms.

Yes, AI's social impact and opposition are understood. A force that threatens the status quo is natural to resist. However, every instrument and advancement was once fresh and scrutinised. The key is balance. Instead than replacing humans, we use AI to improve them. Let's use this tool to boost our abilities, not devalue ourselves.

Speaking of forecasts. It will take time for AI to match human intuition and insight. It can analyse data, find trends, and make intelligent assumptions. But life's subtlety, human passion, and world unpredictability? In our purview. AI enhances human experience -- it doesn't weave it.

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February 12, 2024, 07:25:26 AM
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AI's ability to match chess AIs in all domains? Not convinced. Because human brilliance is unmatched, AI is pursuing a moving target. Our agility and deception are unmatched by algorithms.

Yes, AI's social impact and opposition are understood. A force that threatens the status quo is natural to resist. However, every instrument and advancement was once fresh and scrutinised. The key is balance. Instead than replacing humans, we use AI to improve them. Let's use this tool to boost our abilities, not devalue ourselves.

Speaking of forecasts. It will take time for AI to match human intuition and insight. It can analyse data, find trends, and make intelligent assumptions. But life's subtlety, human passion, and world unpredictability? In our purview. AI enhances human experience -- it doesn't weave it.

Yeah, I agree.

The thing is that the AI still needs a human to set their goals.

Even if the AI is great, it would probably never make a discovery by chance, like penicillin for example.

An AI would never stop and change their goal unexpectedly, they are focused to get the initial goal set by the human.

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February 15, 2024, 04:32:10 PM
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While the popularity of ChatGPT is undeniable, I would not rely on artificial intelligence for betting predictions. Sporting events are complex and subject to unpredictable factors such as injuries, player fitness and even luck. Artificial intelligence algorithms are trained on huge amounts of data, which can inadvertently bias their predictions. The dynamic nature of sport means that unforeseen events can have a significant impact on outcomes that artificial intelligence models find difficult to predict. Such circumstances can significantly alter the course of a game. Sports excitement thrives on passion, analysis, and intuition that artificial intelligence models cannot replicate. Making informed predictive decisions requires a comprehensive understanding of the sport, the players, and the current conditions

this reminds me of an interview I saw a short video once
the interviewer ask
"do you think AI will take your job at some point?"
and the guy, I don't know what he was doing for work, maybe he was an actor, but he says
"I don't think so because AI is logical... and I'm not really logical sometimes Wink "

I think there's more potential to use chatGPT as a way to help analysing than as something like a set and forget totally passive strategy.

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February 18, 2024, 03:57:59 AM
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~snip~

I think there's more potential to use chatGPT as a way to help analysing than as something like a set and forget totally passive strategy.
I think so too because AI or ChatGPT is just human-made intelligence which as whole is tool and technology that stores million pieces of information needed by each user and is able to provide detailed data.
However, I doubt that the detailed information provided by AI or ChatGPT can really help as whole, there will always be some things that are left behind or cannot be provided by this artificial technology.
It just that I think that use can be more possible in analyzing, not just creating strategies, strategies are created with skill and intelligence so it is clear that the human brain will be far superior in terms of creating strategies.
Development of AI or ChatGPT may experience significant improvements, but this cannot guarantee that AI or ChatGPT can work like a god and can really help and solve everything that humans do.
This is just an artificial tool and in fact artificial tools are only intended to help, not replace.

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More then a year after OP the AI theme is still alive and strong, even possibly growing stronger by the day.  I still dont know if this is absolutely possible but the chances or probability of attempts to win by betting via AI and/or with assistance are surely greater every day.    AI seems to be not just pure hype or driven by hope but an actual development ongoing maybe humble at start but in estimation progressively a powerful tool in multiple sectors; I want to come back in a year and see even more progress lets hope so.   Then only then do we have to really worry about the rules, its too good so now we have to limit it?  We should be so lucky  Grin
That's because AI is getting better because a lot of people are working on it to continuously improve and it's absolutely possible but I believe that it's going to take a really long time before AI is something that's totally accurate when it comes to predictions because right now. I do believe it will eventually go to a point where it can accurately give you what you need to know and be as good as the chess AIs of the modern day but it's a long time probably and I will think that a lot of people that's going to be affected by AI is going to be trying their best to impede it's progress.
Getting better and better but come to think that informations been injected or been stored would really be the only thing that it would be able to do nothingless. Humans are still superior considering that its the creator of things when it comes to this manner. It is really just that there are really benefits when making use of AI when it comes to information accumulation or research but its not something that would really be ideal for you to make out such consideration when making up some bets or basing up with its results. Of course you could really be able to make out some comparison with those information but nothing beats that you are the ones who would really be able to make out such decisions basing up into the information that you have been able to compared and accumulate.
Im not saying its not worth but its better to base on your own.

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February 19, 2024, 01:35:32 PM
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~snip~

I think there's more potential to use chatGPT as a way to help analysing than as something like a set and forget totally passive strategy.
I think so too because AI or ChatGPT is just human-made intelligence which as whole is tool and technology that stores million pieces of information needed by each user and is able to provide detailed data.
However, I doubt that the detailed information provided by AI or ChatGPT can really help as whole, there will always be some things that are left behind or cannot be provided by this artificial technology.
It just that I think that use can be more possible in analyzing, not just creating strategies, strategies are created with skill and intelligence so it is clear that the human brain will be far superior in terms of creating strategies.
Development of AI or ChatGPT may experience significant improvements, but this cannot guarantee that AI or ChatGPT can work like a god and can really help and solve everything that humans do.
This is just an artificial tool and in fact artificial tools are only intended to help, not replace.

yes
of course everything can change with future versions of GPT and specally if we end up really reaching AGI
then some things we have no idea will happen

have you seen Sora? new model by openAI for video, I was already really impressed by it last week.

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~snip~
yes
of course everything can change with future versions of GPT and specally if we end up really reaching AGI
then some things we have no idea will happen

have you seen Sora? new model by openAI for video, I was already really impressed by it last week.

The thing that I find most fascinating is that we have powerful open source versions of these models.

That means that someone, somewhere, is using these models to create an even better version.

The only thing is that they might or might not publish their models, maybe they don't even publish their results.

They might even become rich without telling a soul.

Open Source models are also unconstrained in terms of any filter that any big tech company might add to their service, so they, in theory at least, should be better.

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the main problem with open sourcing AI tech, though, is that it'll give a really powerfull tool that can and will be used for disinformation and fake news
that will be huge probably already starting on the next elections
on the other hand I know it's not possible to regulate it and it'll hit us sooner or later

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the main problem with open sourcing AI tech, though, is that it'll give a really powerfull tool that can and will be used for disinformation and fake news
that will be huge probably already starting on the next elections
on the other hand I know it's not possible to regulate it and it'll hit us sooner or later

We didn't really have these kinds of questions when photography started though...

The ability to freeze reality with the touch of a button was a thing a few decades ago (Daguerreotypes, the first types of photography existed from the 1840s). Less than 2 centuries later we have managed to make that irrelevant.

Anyone can now create a digital image of a thing that has never happened.

Exciting Times!

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the main problem with open sourcing AI tech, though, is that it'll give a really powerfull tool that can and will be used for disinformation and fake news
that will be huge probably already starting on the next elections
on the other hand I know it's not possible to regulate it and it'll hit us sooner or later

We didn't really have these kinds of questions when photography started though...

The ability to freeze reality with the touch of a button was a thing a few decades ago (Daguerreotypes, the first types of photography existed from the 1840s). Less than 2 centuries later we have managed to make that irrelevant.

Anyone can now create a digital image of a thing that has never happened.

Exciting Times!

I see this times as exciting too and I'm optimistic for the future
we haven't seen something like that before
people will have to learn to verify everything they see online because you now simply can't trust that a video or image you see online really happened or not.
crazy

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~snip~
I see this times as exciting too and I'm optimistic for the future
we haven't seen something like that before
people will have to learn to verify everything they see online because you now simply can't trust that a video or image you see online really happened or not.
crazy

This really is something incredible.

I am starting to think that this is a bit like the transition from web 1.0 to web 2.0.

In the web 1.0 only specialized people could generate content for it, whereas in the web 2.0 anyone could create and post content.

Same now with digital art. Images, videos, etc. Before only specialized people could do it, now anyone can create them.

It's a game changer.

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February 28, 2024, 12:35:09 PM
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I see this times as exciting too and I'm optimistic for the future
we haven't seen something like that before
people will have to learn to verify everything they see online because you now simply can't trust that a video or image you see online really happened or not.
crazy

This really is something incredible.

I am starting to think that this is a bit like the transition from web 1.0 to web 2.0.

In the web 1.0 only specialized people could generate content for it, whereas in the web 2.0 anyone could create and post content.

Same now with digital art. Images, videos, etc. Before only specialized people could do it, now anyone can create them.

It's a game changer.

definitely a game changer
DSLRs did it too, to some extent, before producing cinemas was reserved for those with money because the equipment was expensive and hard to operate
DSLRs democratized access

AIs will do that too
it's the era of the idea

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February 28, 2024, 12:49:25 PM
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~snip~
I see this times as exciting too and I'm optimistic for the future
we haven't seen something like that before
people will have to learn to verify everything they see online because you now simply can't trust that a video or image you see online really happened or not.
crazy

This really is something incredible.

I am starting to think that this is a bit like the transition from web 1.0 to web 2.0.

In the web 1.0 only specialized people could generate content for it, whereas in the web 2.0 anyone could create and post content.

Same now with digital art. Images, videos, etc. Before only specialized people could do it, now anyone can create them.

It's a game changer.
Well, I believe none of you wanted or would wish humanity civilization to be static, a tree (for example) is never static in growth, except one that is not healthy, a tree starts by its seed planted in the ground, it starts growing in both ways, up and down, that is, down - for the roots, and up - for the steem, branches and so on, it grows and grows, and at the time when it should become static, it still will continue to grow but at a reduced speed, until it's cut down.

In the same vain as the tree, human civilization will continue to grow from stage to stage, new things will continue to be invented that will or should make living more easier and more enjoyable, we are talking about Ai today, which can automatically do a lot of things we usually spend a lot of money and time to do manually, how about when flying cars and bikes get introduced? 😁

Anyways, I am still looking forward to how we can apply the help of Ai to our gambling activities to better the outcome of our games, it actually pains me that games like slot and casino games are Ai proof, there is no way Ai can influence the outcome of such games except on the casino side.

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February 29, 2024, 06:22:54 AM
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Well, I believe none of you wanted or would wish humanity civilization to be static, a tree (for example) is never static in growth, except one that is not healthy, a tree starts by its seed planted in the ground, it starts growing in both ways, up and down, that is, down - for the roots, and up - for the steem, branches and so on, it grows and grows, and at the time when it should become static, it still will continue to grow but at a reduced speed, until it's cut down.

In the same vain as the tree, human civilization will continue to grow from stage to stage, new things will continue to be invented that will or should make living more easier and more enjoyable, we are talking about Ai today, which can automatically do a lot of things we usually spend a lot of money and time to do manually, how about when flying cars and bikes get introduced? 😁

Anyways, I am still looking forward to how we can apply the help of Ai to our gambling activities to better the outcome of our games, it actually pains me that games like slot and casino games are Ai proof, there is no way Ai can influence the outcome of such games except on the casino side.

Yeah, you are right. Life is full of changes, you need to adapt or die.

That's how life works. Whoever is not able to adapt to the new circumstances, dies.

The same with AI, if you can use it to make your life better, that's how you will win.

Maybe for gambling AI can be used in an indirect way. Maybe someone already is using it.

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March 12, 2024, 03:26:13 PM
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on point! @Fivestar4everMVP

life is dynamic and change never stops, that's beautiful

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The same with AI, if you can use it to make your life better, that's how you will win.

Maybe for gambling AI can be used in an indirect way. Maybe someone already is using it.

probably, I'd love to hear from other users if they're already using AI for betting
how are they using it? are they creating autonomous AI agents to bet for them or using it to refine strategies or something else?

that is a really interesting topic to talk about

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It looks like 2/3s of people wouldn’t be open to letting Artificial Intelligence select their bets.  I can understand why as people (especially sports bettors) would like to have their destiny in their own hands. I think once AI does start making gambling predictions and people can see the outcomes, maybe things will change.

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