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February 26, 2023, 12:11:13 PM
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But in AI there's no way for you to know the original source or people behind the predictions.

You're right. AI might give you the right stats, but it's not enough to make the right prediction. The purpose of AI is to give us information about the past, not the future or make predictions for us. Therefore, you are right, it's useless if we just base our bets on AI alone.

I would not call it useless since betting on AI relies on the previous data and information. Such would be the basis on why the AI would be able to predict the outcome of a certain gambling activity. For example, if you use AI in predicting outcomes in sports betting, the AI would be able to use various information/data that would at least help and support your decision to whether to bet on Team A or B.

The only problem is when you completely rely on AI to predict outcomes. A person must definitely use predictions of AI as a supplementary tool rather than the main tool in checking your bets.

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February 26, 2023, 06:18:10 PM
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Humans will search and keep looking until they can find something that can satisfy them even though they have used AI, but if that doesn't satisfy them, they will keep looking.
The superiority of AI might be able to get results quickly, but for now, it may not be able to provide accurate results, so we still need to look for info from elsewhere.
We should not leave the final decision to AI because AI can only suggest what they find and that is why our judgment can determine which one we choose.
And always re-examine what AI finds to find out whether the info it provides is valid or a scam because right now, AI can't sort it out.
If the person is smart yes because they are curious and they are the type of person who wants to perfect everything even though we know that it's kinda unlikely. There are average type of person who is already contented on the sources they have but if that can't provide them the results that they are looking for, that would be the time they will drop it and look for a new alternative.

AI are great to deliver data which have already happened and they can base their predictions there. We humans will do the same before predicting so in order to speed up things, we will only use AIs. Double-checking might be needed if we are doubting or if it's our first time of using it.

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February 26, 2023, 06:42:22 PM
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But in AI there's no way for you to know the original source or people behind the predictions.

You're right. AI might give you the right stats, but it's not enough to make the right prediction. The purpose of AI is to give us information about the past, not the future or make predictions for us. Therefore, you are right, it's useless if we just base our bets on AI alone.

If AI is so accurate, then we would not see those people called paid tipsters. They would just vanish, knowing they are useless since AI has taken over their jobs.

Exactly, AI can provide past performances but still not secure to win. Those are data that can be used to base your prediction, but the actual execution still depends on how you understand the game. It's useful in terms of trying to sort every opportunity and advantage from the player or the team that you wanted to support.

Along the way, if AI can really predict, then you are right with the tipsters. They will not be needed as AI already replaces them.

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February 26, 2023, 08:16:00 PM
 #484

But in AI there's no way for you to know the original source or people behind the predictions.

You're right. AI might give you the right stats, but it's not enough to make the right prediction. The purpose of AI is to give us information about the past, not the future or make predictions for us. Therefore, you are right, it's useless if we just base our bets on AI alone.

If AI is so accurate, then we would not see those people called paid tipsters. They would just vanish, knowing they are useless since AI has taken over their jobs.

Exactly, AI can provide past performances but still not secure to win. Those are data that can be used to base your prediction, but the actual execution still depends on how you understand the game. It's useful in terms of trying to sort every opportunity and advantage from the player or the team that you wanted to support.

Along the way, if AI can really predict, then you are right with the tipsters. They will not be needed as AI already replaces them.
Yes, no matter how many informations would be stored out then it would be still really that stored on library which it would really be that helpful on some areas but it would be totally that not precise
for you to rely on predicting on future results which it isnt really that recommended but i dont know if there were people who do make use of it.

Its true that if this thing does works then all of us would really be that using it.Do we really think that it would really be that allowing for it to happen? with those bookies around?
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February 26, 2023, 10:24:13 PM
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With data and facts given on it, that's a good answer from it. Soon, we'll see people that will totally be dependent on chatgpt or any other ai tools that are certain going to ask for some predictions for certain sports.
As these ais are being developed to become better overtime with the data that it's gathering through their users, no doubt that soon we might really see it become.

I wonder what will be the advantage of this (or any other) AI if it uses the same set of data as the rest? Maybe it will be more efficient by 0.01% consistently, but we will never notice such a small difference. As I already wrote, only that AI will make breakthroughs in forecasting that will collect data itself (and even most likely will determine which data is important).
You're right, that's the thing that it does and it just merges with all of the data set that's been collected whenever it's been asked the same questions and predictions again and again.
I think that we're still far from the top that it can where it can really predict things based on the data and news that it will search quickly. I'd just appreciate what it can do right now but won't be asking them on how to decide on things like my bets.  Tongue

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February 26, 2023, 11:10:18 PM
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With data and facts given on it, that's a good answer from it. Soon, we'll see people that will totally be dependent on chatgpt or any other ai tools that are certain going to ask for some predictions for certain sports.
As these ais are being developed to become better overtime with the data that it's gathering through their users, no doubt that soon we might really see it become.

I wonder what will be the advantage of this (or any other) AI if it uses the same set of data as the rest? Maybe it will be more efficient by 0.01% consistently, but we will never notice such a small difference. As I already wrote, only that AI will make breakthroughs in forecasting that will collect data itself (and even most likely will determine which data is important).
You're right, that's the thing that it does and it just merges with all of the data set that's been collected whenever it's been asked the same questions and predictions again and again.
I think that we're still far from the top that it can where it can really predict things based on the data and news that it will search quickly. I'd just appreciate what it can do right now but won't be asking them on how to decide on things like my bets.  Tongue

maybe for curiosity sake, you can use this to test how reliable it is when it comes to bets. but using only small funds and see where it goes. but if it is serious bet with large money at stake, i won't use this app. still it is best to bet using your own instincts especially if you know the sports very well. they have limitations as to how much data they are being feed into.you may know some recent injuries of the athletes or missing athletes in the team that may contribute with the performance of the team that this AI doesn't have yet in their system.

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February 26, 2023, 11:26:46 PM
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You're right, that's the thing that it does and it just merges with all of the data set that's been collected whenever it's been asked the same questions and predictions again and again.
I think that we're still far from the top that it can where it can really predict things based on the data and news that it will search quickly. I'd just appreciate what it can do right now but won't be asking them on how to decide on things like my bets.  Tongue

maybe for curiosity sake, you can use this to test how reliable it is when it comes to bets. but using only small funds and see where it goes. but if it is serious bet with large money at stake, i won't use this app. still it is best to bet using your own instincts especially if you know the sports very well. they have limitations as to how much data they are being feed into.you may know some recent injuries of the athletes or missing athletes in the team that may contribute with the performance of the team that this AI doesn't have yet in their system.
No problem with that and everyone is free to do their own tests and experiments with that. And if it's good that it worked then you may proceed and keep doing it.
But if you've found nothing and frustrations, errors, and losses then that's the time to lose your optimism with it. We all are looking for ways to make our bets easier and absorb as many predictions as we can. Anything that seems to be helpful, we're too open with that but if it's not bringing good cause, better to leave it.

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February 26, 2023, 11:28:47 PM
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With data and facts given on it, that's a good answer from it. Soon, we'll see people that will totally be dependent on chatgpt or any other ai tools that are certain going to ask for some predictions for certain sports.
As these ais are being developed to become better overtime with the data that it's gathering through their users, no doubt that soon we might really see it become.

I wonder what will be the advantage of this (or any other) AI if it uses the same set of data as the rest? Maybe it will be more efficient by 0.01% consistently, but we will never notice such a small difference. As I already wrote, only that AI will make breakthroughs in forecasting that will collect data itself (and even most likely will determine which data is important).
You're right, that's the thing that it does and it just merges with all of the data set that's been collected whenever it's been asked the same questions and predictions again and again.
I think that we're still far from the top that it can where it can really predict things based on the data and news that it will search quickly. I'd just appreciate what it can do right now but won't be asking them on how to decide on things like my bets.  Tongue

Well regarding on accurate team to win maybe AI can really give the exact answer with that since the game result still unknown and maybe the unexpected result will came since sometimes their are luck factor need to consider even if the team roosters is lacking due to injuries of their players.

Maybe the least those AI can give is all the data's needed by people about the latest inputs about the teams and this could give us a basis if which one of then is good to bet or not. Injury reports is important and its really important to ask this since AI can generate answers regarding to this matter. But at the end of the day its up for us to listen or not since the main purpose why we bet is to enjoy, so good luck to anyone seeking for ways to win and think AI is the answer to increase their chance to win.

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With data and facts given on it, that's a good answer from it. Soon, we'll see people that will totally be dependent on chatgpt or any other ai tools that are certain going to ask for some predictions for certain sports.
As these ais are being developed to become better overtime with the data that it's gathering through their users, no doubt that soon we might really see it become.

I wonder what will be the advantage of this (or any other) AI if it uses the same set of data as the rest? Maybe it will be more efficient by 0.01% consistently, but we will never notice such a small difference. As I already wrote, only that AI will make breakthroughs in forecasting that will collect data itself (and even most likely will determine which data is important).
You're right, that's the thing that it does and it just merges with all of the data set that's been collected whenever it's been asked the same questions and predictions again and again.
I think that we're still far from the top that it can where it can really predict things based on the data and news that it will search quickly. I'd just appreciate what it can do right now but won't be asking them on how to decide on things like my bets.  Tongue

Well regarding on accurate team to win maybe AI can really give the exact answer with that since the game result still unknown and maybe the unexpected result will came since sometimes their are luck factor need to consider even if the team roosters is lacking due to injuries of their players.

Maybe the least those AI can give is all the data's needed by people about the latest inputs about the teams and this could give us a basis if which one of then is good to bet or not. Injury reports is important and its really important to ask this since AI can generate answers regarding to this matter. But at the end of the day its up for us to listen or not since the main purpose why we bet is to enjoy, so good luck to anyone seeking for ways to win and think AI is the answer to increase their chance to win.
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February 27, 2023, 10:54:00 AM
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But in AI there's no way for you to know the original source or people behind the predictions.
You're right. AI might give you the right stats, but it's not enough to make the right prediction. The purpose of AI is to give us information about the past, not the future or make predictions for us. Therefore, you are right, it's useless if we just base our bets on AI alone.

If AI is so accurate, then we would not see those people called paid tipsters. They would just vanish, knowing they are useless since AI has taken over their jobs.

Sports betting requires a lot of experience and knowledge about the games that you choose to gamble on. Apart from that, there are a lot of other factors to consider as well, like the conditions, recent stats of the competitors, previous games, and a lot more.

An AI can provide you with a list of details that he has in its knowledge that he has gained through training, and that training doesn't really cover the most recent events, just like ChatGPT which has no access or knowledge for anything that has happened after 2021. So it's definitely limited in those terms. So I would never recommend using AI for predicting the winners of a sports event.

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February 27, 2023, 11:26:24 AM
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Thus, we are still in control of choosing the team we want and will not depend on AI.
If we depend on AI, it can make us lazy to learn and we will never be able to develop to continue studying analysis.
We can use AI's collected information but cannot trust it 100% because we are responsible for what we decide.
There will be times when we will be faced with difficult decisions because AI and our analysis have collected a lot of data, but we still have to be able to choose based on what we believe.


It is not impossible, AI can be used by gamblers to collect as much information data regarding the teams that we are analyzing. obviously, this is very helpful, and can shorten our time when trying to analyze a match that will take place. well, related to the information obtained from this source of artificial intelligence technology.

Of course, we should not immediately believe it or it can be said to swallow information whole without first looking for the validity of the information. We can use Al according to its function, but not to predict the results of a match. So, I don't think this is a matter of making us lazy to learn, but rather to find all the information we need, especially the latest information. after that, we can conclude based on the analysis that we have done. so basically, all decisions are again in the hands of the gamblers.
AI is actually helpful if we do some queries and would want to find some reliable answers. But I don’t see it safe and reliable in gambling especially in making some predictions as to what or where to bet. Having the fact that my money is at risk, my final decision still depends on what my mind tells. Although AI makes some right and accurate datas because the datas were extracted from different sources, but we know it’s far different when we are gambling. Everything should still be based on our own research and analysis, and no any artificial intelligence can replace it.

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February 27, 2023, 12:04:57 PM
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Thus, we are still in control of choosing the team we want and will not depend on AI.
If we depend on AI, it can make us lazy to learn and we will never be able to develop to continue studying analysis.
We can use AI's collected information but cannot trust it 100% because we are responsible for what we decide.
There will be times when we will be faced with difficult decisions because AI and our analysis have collected a lot of data, but we still have to be able to choose based on what we believe.


It is not impossible, AI can be used by gamblers to collect as much information data regarding the teams that we are analyzing. obviously, this is very helpful, and can shorten our time when trying to analyze a match that will take place. well, related to the information obtained from this source of artificial intelligence technology.

Of course, we should not immediately believe it or it can be said to swallow information whole without first looking for the validity of the information. We can use Al according to its function, but not to predict the results of a match. So, I don't think this is a matter of making us lazy to learn, but rather to find all the information we need, especially the latest information. after that, we can conclude based on the analysis that we have done. so basically, all decisions are again in the hands of the gamblers.
AI is actually helpful if we do some queries and would want to find some reliable answers. But I don’t see it safe and reliable in gambling especially in making some predictions as to what or where to bet. Having the fact that my money is at risk, my final decision still depends on what my mind tells. Although AI makes some right and accurate datas because the datas were extracted from different sources, but we know it’s far different when we are gambling. Everything should still be based on our own research and analysis, and no any artificial intelligence can replace it.

That's true, in gambling, there are always other factors that may affect the outcome of the game. It's important that you really understand the game that you are playing, AI may give you data that you can use to analyze the game and give you good heads-up if what's the possible advantage but at the end of the day, it's still your own knowledge that will bring you the decision to make.

All the decisions are relying on how you see your opportunities and how AI gives you the statistic that you can use to predict the possible outcome.

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February 27, 2023, 12:27:15 PM
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You're right, that's the thing that it does and it just merges with all of the data set that's been collected whenever it's been asked the same questions and predictions again and again.
I think that we're still far from the top that it can where it can really predict things based on the data and news that it will search quickly. I'd just appreciate what it can do right now but won't be asking them on how to decide on things like my bets.  Tongue

Well regarding on accurate team to win maybe AI can really give the exact answer with that since the game result still unknown and maybe the unexpected result will came since sometimes their are luck factor need to consider even if the team roosters is lacking due to injuries of their players.

Maybe the least those AI can give is all the data's needed by people about the latest inputs about the teams and this could give us a basis if which one of then is good to bet or not. Injury reports is important and its really important to ask this since AI can generate answers regarding to this matter. But at the end of the day its up for us to listen or not since the main purpose why we bet is to enjoy, so good luck to anyone seeking for ways to win and think AI is the answer to increase their chance to win.
With that, it can guess but to say that it can accurately tell a team to win with a match that hasn't happened yet then that's a prediction.
We don't know what's ahead on this emerging technology and it's not just I think a hype soon when it's already established but I just see those people that are using it for some other things but not with gambling.

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February 27, 2023, 09:45:41 PM
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Well regarding on accurate team to win maybe AI can really give the exact answer with that since the game result still unknown and maybe the unexpected result will came since sometimes their are luck factor need to consider even if the team roosters is lacking due to injuries of their players.

Maybe the least those AI can give is all the data's needed by people about the latest inputs about the teams and this could give us a basis if which one of then is good to bet or not. Injury reports is important and its really important to ask this since AI can generate answers regarding to this matter. But at the end of the day its up for us to listen or not since the main purpose why we bet is to enjoy, so good luck to anyone seeking for ways to win and think AI is the answer to increase their chance to win.
Exactly true, like just recently Barcelona lost to Almeira, what kind of data that you could provide to any AI in the world that could have predicted that? All the data in the world shows that Barcelona should have won that game with ease and there shouldn't even be a doubt.

We, as football fans, know that any team could lose to any team, you could get Barcelona to play against a fifth tier team and Barcelona could just put youth players from La Masia in there because they would underestimate and could end up losing that game too, who knows? Which is why it's important to realize AI could never bet better than other people, it's just not going to work.

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February 27, 2023, 10:42:17 PM
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Exactly true, like just recently Barcelona lost to Almeira, what kind of data that you could provide to any AI in the world that could have predicted that? All the data in the world shows that Barcelona should have won that game with ease and there shouldn't even be a doubt.

We, as football fans, know that any team could lose to any team, you could get Barcelona to play against a fifth tier team and Barcelona could just put youth players from La Masia in there because they would underestimate and could end up losing that game too, who knows? Which is why it's important to realize AI could never bet better than other people, it's just not going to work.

Well, people tend to forget that a prediction is a probability, not a fact.

So, yes, an AI would probably have given a small chance of that event happening. It's just that it was not as probable as a win from Barcelona.

It's the same as if I tell you the odds of rolling a number six with a dice: 1/6, that's pretty low, but you can still roll a six.

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February 28, 2023, 12:25:50 AM
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Well regarding on accurate team to win maybe AI can really give the exact answer with that since the game result still unknown and maybe the unexpected result will came since sometimes their are luck factor need to consider even if the team roosters is lacking due to injuries of their players.

Maybe the least those AI can give is all the data's needed by people about the latest inputs about the teams and this could give us a basis if which one of then is good to bet or not. Injury reports is important and its really important to ask this since AI can generate answers regarding to this matter. But at the end of the day its up for us to listen or not since the main purpose why we bet is to enjoy, so good luck to anyone seeking for ways to win and think AI is the answer to increase their chance to win.
Exactly true, like just recently Barcelona lost to Almeira, what kind of data that you could provide to any AI in the world that could have predicted that? All the data in the world shows that Barcelona should have won that game with ease and there shouldn't even be a doubt.

We, as football fans, know that any team could lose to any team, you could get Barcelona to play against a fifth tier team and Barcelona could just put youth players from La Masia in there because they would underestimate and could end up losing that game too, who knows? Which is why it's important to realize AI could never bet better than other people, it's just not going to work.
Even if it is true that no one could have predicted such an outcome that is not what a profitable sport bettor tries to do, and it should not be the goal of an AI geared towards sports betting either.

What sport bettors do is to calculate on their own how likely an event is to happen, and if the casino according to their research gives a higher payout than expected then they make a bet on that event happening, they can still lose their bet but the payout they can receive is higher than it should be otherwise, and an AI trying to beat the casinos and make profits should have the very same goal and follow a similar process.

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February 28, 2023, 09:01:15 AM
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AI is actually helpful if we do some queries and would want to find some reliable answers. But I don’t see it safe and reliable in gambling especially in making some predictions as to what or where to bet. Having the fact that my money is at risk, my final decision still depends on what my mind tells. Although AI makes some right and accurate datas because the datas were extracted from different sources, but we know it’s far different when we are gambling. Everything should still be based on our own research and analysis, and no any artificial intelligence can replace it.
I would consider it foolish or wasting money if someone places a bet on a sporting event based on a prediction made by an AI model unless they are extremely lucky and still win the bet despite any research and analysis of the game or the competing teams/players. There is absolutely no doubt about the abilities of AI models or what they can deliver, but they are not yet ready to take on such responsibilities considering their training data is not always up to date.

I can use AI to write articles, generate emails, make social posts and copies, and even double-check those since AI is not always right. How could I put my money at risk based on a decision made only by AI? Doesn't really sound wise to me for now.
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February 28, 2023, 09:54:45 AM
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I can use AI to write articles, generate emails, make social posts and copies, and even double-check those since AI is not always right. How could I put my money at risk based on a decision made only by AI? Doesn't really sound wise to me for now.
ChatGPT cannot provide the latest information; hence, it cannot be used to predict present sporting events. You cannot get information from this AI. Instead, make your own analysis to predict the outcome of sports events. That's how normal sports bettors do it. There are no shortcuts to winning in sports, just hard work and dedication, and of course, being smart.

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February 28, 2023, 10:13:33 AM
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I can use AI to write articles, generate emails, make social posts and copies, and even double-check those since AI is not always right. How could I put my money at risk based on a decision made only by AI? Doesn't really sound wise to me for now.
ChatGPT cannot provide the latest information; hence, it cannot be used to predict present sporting events. You cannot get information from this AI. Instead, make your own analysis to predict the outcome of sports events. That's how normal sports bettors do it. There are no shortcuts to winning in sports, just hard work and dedication, and of course, being smart.
Making your own analysis to make choices in sports betting will be better than using AI for now. But I think with the development of AI by developers, someday AI will evolve into a better form than now. We may not be able to depend on AI to find information about each match and choose a team to place the bet. I am curious about what this AI technology will be like in the future because it seems that it will be interesting to see later, especially if applied in everyday human life and helping our activities.

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February 28, 2023, 11:18:48 AM
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I can use AI to write articles, generate emails, make social posts and copies, and even double-check those since AI is not always right. How could I put my money at risk based on a decision made only by AI? Doesn't really sound wise to me for now.
ChatGPT cannot provide the latest information; hence, it cannot be used to predict present sporting events. You cannot get information from this AI. Instead, make your own analysis to predict the outcome of sports events. That's how normal sports bettors do it. There are no shortcuts to winning in sports, just hard work and dedication, and of course, being smart.
Making your own analysis to make choices in sports betting will be better than using AI for now. But I think with the development of AI by developers, someday AI will evolve into a better form than now. We may not be able to depend on AI to find information about each match and choose a team to place the bet. I am curious about what this AI technology will be like in the future because it seems that it will be interesting to see later, especially if applied in everyday human life and helping our activities.
I don't expect there to be an AI that can predict the future or the outcome of a game, as their knowledge is only based on past information stored in the web. They don't have emotions, which are very vital in predicting the outcome of a game.

I understand that some people want to win consistently, but there is no AI that can provide that. We have to be realistic and understand this.

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