[POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes

[nullama]

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So where talking about that Terminator-like kind of approach if we do speak about AI? It cant be possible if it does happen then we're doomed.Its better to have this way but i agree into the point that its really

been called the other way which same as you said that its machine learning since its been fed up by information on huge scale based and continous to be added up into its library which means that
it could be all knowing as the time passes by but still it cant really make out such decision on its own without being that told or whatever it do relates on independent decisions or whatsoever.

Using it up on things which are needing to attach into speculative part? Then it wont really be that effective.

Not really like Terminator at all.

Instead, an advanced general AI would use the Internet to obtain its goals. It would have access to a lot of humans, through unsolicited emails, it would have access to funds by providing services to humans that pay for it, or simply scamming people at large.

Then, it would be able to interact through the real world by simply paying for services.

Imagine how many people live their lives today, not going out, and simply doing everything online. An AI can basically do the same. Call someone through VoIP, generate a voice though text2speech, and have a meaningful conversation, making the human do whatever the AI wants as it can become whatever is needed. Call an uber, request a pickup, whatever. Everything is possible now as a service through the internet. It doesn't matter if you're an AI or a human.

We won't be seeing killer robots, it would simply take over quietly as we continue living our normal lives.

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[traderethereum]

Without a doubt that is coming, however the accuracy of an AI is determined by the quality of the information that it receives and in that respect the casinos have a decisive advantage over the players.

So I think it will come the time in which it will be incredibly difficult for sport bettors to find attractive odds, and only those which concentrate on arbitrage betting are going to have any chance to make profits at all as AI gets better over the years.

Indeed. AIs are only dependent on the information it has at its disposal. The timeliness and relevance of the information it receives is important to the whole decision making and its prediction of the outcome. If for instance, the information and AI have isn't updated or is lacking, there's a high chance that you'll lose your bet dependent on the AI result. This is why if ever you really plan to use one in the future, you have to verify and still double check.

Using AI could mean better percentage of winning to some, but let's admit it that it doesn't guarantee a win so you should still learn how to decipher and read the situation. AI can be helpful to influence our decision making, but do not solely rely on it. You still have to at least possess some knowledge about what you are betting for, in order for you to have higher chance in winning.

For now, AI has not been able to get accurate information from various sources and even if AI can get it, AI still has to be able to find further clues as to whether the information is real or a hoax.
This is why AI technology is still being developed so that it can filter the information that users really need.
Just imagine if AI technology was currently used to find information about betting on a sport and it turned out that the information could not be accounted for and could lead us to choose the wrong team.
And it's true, besides using AI technology that has been perfected, we also have to analyze before making decisions so that we don't just depend on AI in making decisions.

Yup, still the need of human knowledge. Even AI provides good information about the possibilities of whatever outcome the bet can be, it's not accurate and there's no assurance that you'll be able to win each time you place your bets. I see the good point of using it to gather information and make some own assessment whether to follow what's the data is telling you or try to go the different side and risk for some luck to make a much better odds.

You always have that options if you feel that there's some mess that may happen with the game that you pick then picking the other side or playing against the favorite is something that AI will not recommend if basing to the data analysis that it gathered from the sources of information you select.

Thus, we are still in control of choosing the team we want and will not depend on AI.
If we depend on AI, it can make us lazy to learn and we will never be able to develop to continue studying analysis.
We can use AI's collected information but cannot trust it 100% because we are responsible for what we decide.
There will be times when we will be faced with difficult decisions because AI and our analysis have collected a lot of data, but we still have to be able to choose based on what we believe.

[rahmad2nd]

Thus, we are still in control of choosing the team we want and will not depend on AI.
If we depend on AI, it can make us lazy to learn and we will never be able to develop to continue studying analysis.
We can use AI's collected information but cannot trust it 100% because we are responsible for what we decide.
There will be times when we will be faced with difficult decisions because AI and our analysis have collected a lot of data, but we still have to be able to choose based on what we believe.

It is not impossible, AI can be used by gamblers to collect as much information data regarding the teams that we are analyzing. obviously, this is very helpful, and can shorten our time when trying to analyze a match that will take place. well, related to the information obtained from this source of artificial intelligence technology.

Of course, we should not immediately believe it or it can be said to swallow information whole without first looking for the validity of the information. We can use Al according to its function, but not to predict the results of a match. So, I don't think this is a matter of making us lazy to learn, but rather to find all the information we need, especially the latest information. after that, we can conclude based on the analysis that we have done. so basically, all decisions are again in the hands of the gamblers.

[carlfebz2]

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So where talking about that Terminator-like kind of approach if we do speak about AI? It cant be possible if it does happen then we're doomed.Its better to have this way but i agree into the point that its really

been called the other way which same as you said that its machine learning since its been fed up by information on huge scale based and continous to be added up into its library which means that
it could be all knowing as the time passes by but still it cant really make out such decision on its own without being that told or whatever it do relates on independent decisions or whatsoever.

Using it up on things which are needing to attach into speculative part? Then it wont really be that effective.

Not really like Terminator at all.

Instead, an advanced general AI would use the Internet to obtain its goals. It would have access to a lot of humans, through unsolicited emails, it would have access to funds by providing services to humans that pay for it, or simply scamming people at large.

Then, it would be able to interact through the real world by simply paying for services.

Imagine how many people live their lives today, not going out, and simply doing everything online. An AI can basically do the same. Call someone through VoIP, generate a voice though text2speech, and have a meaningful conversation, making the human do whatever the AI wants as it can become whatever is needed. Call an uber, request a pickup, whatever. Everything is possible now as a service through the internet. It doesn't matter if you're an AI or a human.

We won't be seeing killer robots, it would simply take over quietly as we continue living our normal lives.

Well, you are really that right at this and i cant really just removed out into my mind about these possibilities though (or maybe im just watching too much movies. )

We dont really like on having no innovation but this is something that inevitable considering that development and progress does really move on.

As long it would really be that beneficial to the humanity then it would surely counts and considerable.There are really just some key areas on which AI's cant really be able to touch
up specifically into those things which does really need human intervention and interaction.

[KennyR]

We can have an example of today's ICC T20 semifinals between the teams India Women and Australia Women. Based on the AI prediction and majority of the sports betting channels predicted it to be a win for Australia Women and the same happened. It all happened out of some small mistake that favoured Australia. Almost 99% of the bets were on Australia Women and if that small mistake hadn't happened this could've been a win for India Women.

When it comes to sports betting or any of the casino games, AI is just a tool that can be used with the hope of giving positive results same as what some people follow with the superstitious beliefs. In reality it doesn't have anything specific to give precise results as the prediction of AI is completely upon data gathering.

[traderethereum]

Thus, we are still in control of choosing the team we want and will not depend on AI.
If we depend on AI, it can make us lazy to learn and we will never be able to develop to continue studying analysis.
We can use AI's collected information but cannot trust it 100% because we are responsible for what we decide.
There will be times when we will be faced with difficult decisions because AI and our analysis have collected a lot of data, but we still have to be able to choose based on what we believe.

It is not impossible, AI can be used by gamblers to collect as much information data regarding the teams that we are analyzing. obviously, this is very helpful, and can shorten our time when trying to analyze a match that will take place. well, related to the information obtained from this source of artificial intelligence technology.

Of course, we should not immediately believe it or it can be said to swallow information whole without first looking for the validity of the information. We can use Al according to its function, but not to predict the results of a match. So, I don't think this is a matter of making us lazy to learn, but rather to find all the information we need, especially the latest information. after that, we can conclude based on the analysis that we have done. so basically, all decisions are again in the hands of the gamblers.

But it has become a habit that when we can get something easily, we become passive and don't do as much searching as before. Moreover, if the search carried out by AI can provide the results we want, we will rely on AI for our analysis.
It's human nature not to bother when you get comfort and will continue to use it.
And I don't think we should be like that because what we place in sports bets is our responsibility, our money is at stake and we also have a risk when placing those sports bets.

[fullhdpixel]

We can have an example of today's ICC T20 semifinals between the teams India Women and Australia Women. Based on the AI prediction and majority of the sports betting channels predicted it to be a win for Australia Women and the same happened. It all happened out of some small mistake that favoured Australia. Almost 99% of the bets were on Australia Women and if that small mistake hadn't happened this could've been a win for India Women.

When it comes to sports betting or any of the casino games, AI is just a tool that can be used with the hope of giving positive results same as what some people follow with the superstitious beliefs. In reality it doesn't have anything specific to give precise results as the prediction of AI is completely upon data gathering.

Really? But I am still not totally impressed with it because I think what happened is only a co-incident or it was just a wild guess made by the AI there. I believe there is no way for the AI to predict the future and what if there are a certain circumstances that can come like a bad weather? Or the players were injured? do you think the AI can predict it? I guess no.

AI is far from a superstitious belief because the AI can scan details on the web and based their predictions according to it but there is no science behind superstitious beliefs. It was like you wear red clothes because you think it was a lucky color. It wasn't bad though to believe on it if we are only playing a luck-based game or casino games.

[dezoel]

It is not impossible, AI can be used by gamblers to collect as much information data regarding the teams that we are analyzing. obviously, this is very helpful, and can shorten our time when trying to analyze a match that will take place. well, related to the information obtained from this source of artificial intelligence technology.

Of course, we should not immediately believe it or it can be said to swallow information whole without first looking for the validity of the information. We can use Al according to its function, but not to predict the results of a match. So, I don't think this is a matter of making us lazy to learn, but rather to find all the information we need, especially the latest information. after that, we can conclude based on the analysis that we have done. so basically, all decisions are again in the hands of the gamblers.

But it has become a habit that when we can get something easily, we become passive and don't do as much searching as before. Moreover, if the search carried out by AI can provide the results we want, we will rely on AI for our analysis.
It's human nature not to bother when you get comfort and will continue to use it.
And I don't think we should be like that because what we place in sports bets is our responsibility, our money is at stake and we also have a risk when placing those sports bets.

That is true for majority of humanity, but not for everyone. Same goes for news as well, we are given all these news we see, and then we take it as information, but news is not information anymore, plus media learned giving the same information from different angles, one making it look bad, one making it look good, and it is the same story.

This means that we are mislead, and yet we believe it, at least majority does. But, there are still people who go into detail and learn more about it and figure out what's the reality, and those type of minds would end up checking AI if they want to, but they will also check the data that backs it up to make sure at the same time.

[traderethereum]

It is not impossible, AI can be used by gamblers to collect as much information data regarding the teams that we are analyzing. obviously, this is very helpful, and can shorten our time when trying to analyze a match that will take place. well, related to the information obtained from this source of artificial intelligence technology.

Of course, we should not immediately believe it or it can be said to swallow information whole without first looking for the validity of the information. We can use Al according to its function, but not to predict the results of a match. So, I don't think this is a matter of making us lazy to learn, but rather to find all the information we need, especially the latest information. after that, we can conclude based on the analysis that we have done. so basically, all decisions are again in the hands of the gamblers.

But it has become a habit that when we can get something easily, we become passive and don't do as much searching as before. Moreover, if the search carried out by AI can provide the results we want, we will rely on AI for our analysis.
It's human nature not to bother when you get comfort and will continue to use it.
And I don't think we should be like that because what we place in sports bets is our responsibility, our money is at stake and we also have a risk when placing those sports bets.

That is true for majority of humanity, but not for everyone. Same goes for news as well, we are given all these news we see, and then we take it as information, but news is not information anymore, plus media learned giving the same information from different angles, one making it look bad, one making it look good, and it is the same story.

This means that we are mislead, and yet we believe it, at least majority does. But, there are still people who go into detail and learn more about it and figure out what's the reality, and those type of minds would end up checking AI if they want to, but they will also check the data that backs it up to make sure at the same time.

And by trying to find more news besides using AI to find other news, it will give us more information where we can find out what's going on out there.
That can also be our consideration in choosing a team with a big chance of winning.
And we can also compare which news provides more genuine or fake information because nowadays, a lot of fake news cannot be accounted for.
Only wise gamblers can use AI properly while they keep looking elsewhere for the info to support their research.

[Fortify]

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

It's hard to think that an AI, based on old historical data, would be able to predict the outcomes of current matches. I would imagine player quality could increase and decrease by quite a large margin in a two year span. It does feel like there is some sort of algorithm that you might be able to suggest to it, or see what what suggestions it would churn out but you might have to spoon feed it data like current player lists or team configurations. You can bet that gambling companies are also seeking to use these AI programs to improve their offerings as well and they have a lot more resources to fund such research. I don't think anyone can profit on it, but maybe if it was using more up to date info it's possible.

[Fredomago]

And by trying to find more news besides using AI to find other news, it will give us more information where we can find out what's going on out there.
That can also be our consideration in choosing a team with a big chance of winning.
And we can also compare which news provides more genuine or fake information because nowadays, a lot of fake news cannot be accounted for.
Only wise gamblers can use AI properly while they keep looking elsewhere for the info to support their research.

An essence of being wise, right? Maximizing the usages of AI while still working with other sources of information before deciding where to bet, it's truly a human desire to find more edge to have better outcome, but in terms of AI, still not that accurate as there are factors that AI can't predict as early as the game is not starting yet, injuries and the coach decision to rest and sit their stars.

Something that AI can't provide for you when you run the check. It's still you as human who can decide which player/team to bet
that have a good chance of winning.

[Betwrong]

~ What do we expect from them, just letting gamblers to see a good advantage? For sure no! they will also do things that will let them to continue being in the upper hands.

There is bound to be technological competition between players and casino owners trying to earn money from gambling. And there is a possibility that players can win more matches because players can have more choices of matches to bet on. Casinos will try to develop technology that can prevent AI from helping players to get more information.

And it's very interesting to see it happen in the future after AI technology has been developed better than today. And maybe the casinos will still manage to keep an advantage over gamblers trying to win big bucks.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in my opinion it's not the bookies, it's the bettors who with their bets affect the odds. Bookies set the odds only initially, and after that the odds are changing all the time depending on how much money was staked on this or that outcome.


I just asked ChatGPT a question about predicting sport events



and it appeared more optimistic than I expected.

[blockman]

I just asked ChatGPT a question about predicting sport events



and it appeared more optimistic than I expected.

With data and facts given on it, that's a good answer from it. Soon, we'll see people that will totally be dependent on chatgpt or any other ai tools that are certain going to ask for some predictions for certain sports.
As these ais are being developed to become better overtime with the data that it's gathering through their users, no doubt that soon we might really see it become.

[KTChampions]

I just asked ChatGPT a question about predicting sport events



and it appeared more optimistic than I expected.

With data and facts given on it, that's a good answer from it. Soon, we'll see people that will totally be dependent on chatgpt or any other ai tools that are certain going to ask for some predictions for certain sports.
As these ais are being developed to become better overtime with the data that it's gathering through their users, no doubt that soon we might really see it become.

I wonder what will be the advantage of this (or any other) AI if it uses the same set of data as the rest? Maybe it will be more efficient by 0.01% consistently, but we will never notice such a small difference. As I already wrote, only that AI will make breakthroughs in forecasting that will collect data itself (and even most likely will determine which data is important).

[Lanatsa]

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

It's hard to think that an AI, based on old historical data, would be able to predict the outcomes of current matches. I would imagine player quality could increase and decrease by quite a large margin in a two year span. It does feel like there is some sort of algorithm that you might be able to suggest to it, or see what what suggestions it would churn out but you might have to spoon feed it data like current player lists or team configurations. You can bet that gambling companies are also seeking to use these AI programs to improve their offerings as well and they have a lot more resources to fund such research. I don't think anyone can profit on it, but maybe if it was using more up to date info it's possible.

It is been feed up by information into its library which means that it is really that accumulating on whats been able to accumulate and it is really just that not really reliant if you are really that basing your predictions

and betting positions on what AI had suggested because its never been that recommendable but if you do see that it is really  that relevant or effective to yours then its your call.

It is really just that people cant really have the easiest way because if it does really work then lots of people would be making use of it.

[Vaskiy]

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

It's hard to think that an AI, based on old historical data, would be able to predict the outcomes of current matches. I would imagine player quality could increase and decrease by quite a large margin in a two year span. It does feel like there is some sort of algorithm that you might be able to suggest to it, or see what what suggestions it would churn out but you might have to spoon feed it data like current player lists or team configurations. You can bet that gambling companies are also seeking to use these AI programs to improve their offerings as well and they have a lot more resources to fund such research. I don't think anyone can profit on it, but maybe if it was using more up to date info it's possible.

It is been feed up by information into its library which means that it is really that accumulating on whats been able to accumulate and it is really just that not really reliant if you are really that basing your predictions

and betting positions on what AI had suggested because its never been that recommendable but if you do see that it is really  that relevant or effective to yours then its your call.

It is really just that people cant really have the easiest way because if it does really work then lots of people would be making use of it.

AI will use the data available over the specific time period to predict the outcome of the match. At times this can have coincidence with the outcome of the match and when the outcome doesn't favour we should have the mind to accept it rather than thinking we should've predicted it than going for the AI.

The best AI can do is help as an information source. While analysing the past history of teams and player performance it isn't easy, it takes time and we need to watch carefully. With AI the work can be made effective and based on the same we can make the prediction.

[nullama]

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It is been feed up by information into its library which means that it is really that accumulating on whats been able to accumulate and it is really just that not really reliant if you are really that basing your predictions

and betting positions on what AI had suggested because its never been that recommendable but if you do see that it is really  that relevant or effective to yours then its your call.

It is really just that people cant really have the easiest way because if it does really work then lots of people would be making use of it.

The thing is that AI can generate false information, and can also read information on the internet that is false, so it's not really too accurate to make predictions.

Also, it's usually trained with older data, from months or even years ago so it's also not up to date with the latest news, which are the most relevant to make a prediction.

I don't think a general AI like chatGPT is great for this, but maybe some specifically trained one could help a bit.

[traderethereum]

And by trying to find more news besides using AI to find other news, it will give us more information where we can find out what's going on out there.
That can also be our consideration in choosing a team with a big chance of winning.
And we can also compare which news provides more genuine or fake information because nowadays, a lot of fake news cannot be accounted for.
Only wise gamblers can use AI properly while they keep looking elsewhere for the info to support their research.

An essence of being wise, right? Maximizing the usages of AI while still working with other sources of information before deciding where to bet, it's truly a human desire to find more edge to have better outcome, but in terms of AI, still not that accurate as there are factors that AI can't predict as early as the game is not starting yet, injuries and the coach decision to rest and sit their stars.

Something that AI can't provide for you when you run the check. It's still you as human who can decide which player/team to bet
that have a good chance of winning.

Humans will search and keep looking until they can find something that can satisfy them even though they have used AI, but if that doesn't satisfy them, they will keep looking.
The superiority of AI might be able to get results quickly, but for now, it may not be able to provide accurate results, so we still need to look for info from elsewhere.
We should not leave the final decision to AI because AI can only suggest what they find and that is why our judgment can determine which one we choose.
And always re-examine what AI finds to find out whether the info it provides is valid or a scam because right now, AI can't sort it out.

[Jawhead999]

Humans will search and keep looking until they can find something that can satisfy them even though they have used AI, but if that doesn't satisfy them, they will keep looking.
The superiority of AI might be able to get results quickly, but for now, it may not be able to provide accurate results, so we still need to look for info from elsewhere.
We should not leave the final decision to AI because AI can only suggest what they find and that is why our judgment can determine which one we choose.
And always re-examine what AI finds to find out whether the info it provides is valid or a scam because right now, AI can't sort it out.

In the end AI's result is completely useless because you will bet based on your own prediction, so there's no reason to use AI to predict the result. Actually there are a lot videos, forums and articles were discuss about betting tips for the recent sports event. At least you're know where you get that prediction and the result, when the bet goes different, you can avoid him. But in AI there's no way for you to know the original source or people behind the predictions.

[Distinctin]

But in AI there's no way for you to know the original source or people behind the predictions.

You're right. AI might give you the right stats, but it's not enough to make the right prediction. The purpose of AI is to give us information about the past, not the future or make predictions for us. Therefore, you are right, it's useless if we just base our bets on AI alone.

If AI is so accurate, then we would not see those people called paid tipsters. They would just vanish, knowing they are useless since AI has taken over their jobs.