[POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes

[nullama]

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Well, it's really funny how people are trying to invent things that could make our lives easier, and so we eliminate majority of human work by letting the robots take over on what supposed to be done by a human being. Then, after it's been developed and released publicly we suddenly became concerned that it might cause a major unemployment globally. Human interactions are indeed vital, but it seems like we're gradually getting rid of it. I'm afraid those bartenders and baristas will soon get replaced by a robot who definitely has a lot of interesting ideas to utter while you're in a bar table sitting in front of that robot serving you drinks. 
I think people should maximize the use of AI in terms of our security.

It's great to have technology to help us have a better life. Back in the days life was very hard, now it's so much easier.

The thing is that humans will always crave human connection, and that will probably never be emulated by a robot.

People are starting to humanize chat AIs though, but it's still not the same as being face to face, as we all experienced in the pandemic.

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[Fredomago]

I can't even imagine leaving my prediction for artificial intelligence to handle them. This might work for a while but is not the best way. We can easily ask for help but not to allow artificial intelligence to handle everything. If we start making money from the predictions that artificial intelligence makes for us then we will become too lazy to use our brain and put it into work. Gambling is not just relying on something or someone to give of games for us to bet. We need to learn tok by ourselves so we can modify any error and make things better for us.

Your way of seeing this is correct, obviously ChatGPT is talked about a lot right now as if it were the great discovery and we all know that ChatGPT is just a tool to help with many things, but to make predictions or similar things not, in fact, to The AI needs a lot of development, we are just seeing a demo stage of what it can be, but passing the information through a database where it thinks and makes correct decisions is something that is very far away, and when this reaches it, I think we could be While a quantum PC was the one to finish it, likewise the quantum era is still missing too, so predictions via AI is not very feasible.

Not related to ChatGPT but I see in some fb post about talking AI, it was Elon Musk who's investing on it t's really something that the technology is bringing to economy, and moving back to AI who can help you in predicting the outcome of every sports event, so far it can give you idea but still it's you who will decide if you'll going to follow or use it as a basis before you can pick the game to bet on.

[maydna]

Well, it's really funny how people are trying to invent things that could make our lives easier, and so we eliminate majority of human work by letting the robots take over on what supposed to be done by a human being. Then, after it's been developed and released publicly we suddenly became concerned that it might cause a major unemployment globally. Human interactions are indeed vital, but it seems like we're gradually getting rid of it. I'm afraid those bartenders and baristas will soon get replaced by a robot who definitely has a lot of interesting ideas to utter while you're in a bar table sitting in front of that robot serving you drinks. 
I think people should maximize the use of AI in terms of our security.

There is a possibility that this could happen in the future when technology is more advanced than now and we start using robots to accompany our daily activities. There will be a negative side to using this AI technology for humans because almost all the tasks we normally do have been replaced by robots. In fact, this has already happened in large companies such as automotive, where robots have carried out all the controls, which can later spread to other businesses. I can't imagine if all of our activities at work were done by robots because that means what we see in fictional films will happen in the future.

[nullama]

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Not related to ChatGPT but I see in some fb post about talking AI, it was Elon Musk who's investing on it t's really something that the technology is bringing to economy, and moving back to AI who can help you in predicting the outcome of every sports event, so far it can give you idea but still it's you who will decide if you'll going to follow or use it as a basis before you can pick the game to bet on.

It's funny that people seem to put Elon Musk in anything related to technology.

They even claim he is Satoshi Nakamoto 

[stomachgrowls]

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Not related to ChatGPT but I see in some fb post about talking AI, it was Elon Musk who's investing on it t's really something that the technology is bringing to economy, and moving back to AI who can help you in predicting the outcome of every sports event, so far it can give you idea but still it's you who will decide if you'll going to follow or use it as a basis before you can pick the game to bet on.

It's funny that people seem to put Elon Musk in anything related to technology.

They even claim he is Satoshi Nakamoto 

What would you expect? We arent that blind that Elon is really focusing much on new technology niche which it isnt really that much shocking and you cant blame out people that everything this man does will
really be checked out and would be followed.He's that popular and influential enough on making significant effect specially on crypto space or whatever things that he's attached into.

AI now is progressing and its not shocking that it would hook up his interest into it and this is where people been anticipating on what his next move.Going back on topic in regarding making
use of AI to predict game outcomes? No it wont be that relevant considering that future things cant be predicted out.

[AmoreJaz]

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Not related to ChatGPT but I see in some fb post about talking AI, it was Elon Musk who's investing on it t's really something that the technology is bringing to economy, and moving back to AI who can help you in predicting the outcome of every sports event, so far it can give you idea but still it's you who will decide if you'll going to follow or use it as a basis before you can pick the game to bet on.

It's funny that people seem to put Elon Musk in anything related to technology.

They even claim he is Satoshi Nakamoto 

What would you expect? We arent that blind that Elon is really focusing much on new technology niche which it isnt really that much shocking and you cant blame out people that everything this man does will
really be checked out and would be followed.He's that popular and influential enough on making significant effect specially on crypto space or whatever things that he's attached into.

AI now is progressing and its not shocking that it would hook up his interest into it and this is where people been anticipating on what his next move.Going back on topic in regarding making
use of AI to predict game outcomes? No it wont be that relevant considering that future things cant be predicted out.

so i checked again the results of the poll what's the general sentiment of forum users and still, the dominant answer is they won't let AI predict their bets. it is understandable as there are still blind spots even if we say there's big data behind these AIs. the players themselves, their current conditions are not included in the AI's database. so the performance alone is a big factor in the final outcome of the game. how about the strategy of the new coach? so yeah, that kind of info is under the radar of AI, only those sportsbettors with up to date info can get such details.

[Fredomago]

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Not related to ChatGPT but I see in some fb post about talking AI, it was Elon Musk who's investing on it t's really something that the technology is bringing to economy, and moving back to AI who can help you in predicting the outcome of every sports event, so far it can give you idea but still it's you who will decide if you'll going to follow or use it as a basis before you can pick the game to bet on.

It's funny that people seem to put Elon Musk in anything related to technology.

They even claim he is Satoshi Nakamoto 

What would you expect? We arent that blind that Elon is really focusing much on new technology niche which it isnt really that much shocking and you cant blame out people that everything this man does will
really be checked out and would be followed.He's that popular and influential enough on making significant effect specially on crypto space or whatever things that he's attached into.

AI now is progressing and its not shocking that it would hook up his interest into it and this is where people been anticipating on what his next move.Going back on topic in regarding making
use of AI to predict game outcomes? No it wont be that relevant considering that future things cant be predicted out.

so i checked again the results of the poll what's the general sentiment of forum users and still, the dominant answer is they won't let AI predict their bets. it is understandable as there are still blind spots even if we say there's big data behind these AIs. the players themselves, their current conditions are not included in the AI's database. so the performance alone is a big factor in the final outcome of the game. how about the strategy of the new coach? so yeah, that kind of info is under the radar of AI, only those sportsbettors with up to date info can get such details.

You give factors that influenced the most in terms of sports betting, players performances and how the coach will execute the play when the game starts, where AI is not capable to adjust after providing data when you run the check, AI don't have that capability to address those changes that might take place during the live event.

Surely that's how gamblers see the risk, especially those experienced gamblers who understand well the changes during live games.

[nullama]

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so i checked again the results of the poll what's the general sentiment of forum users and still, the dominant answer is they won't let AI predict their bets. it is understandable as there are still blind spots even if we say there's big data behind these AIs. the players themselves, their current conditions are not included in the AI's database. so the performance alone is a big factor in the final outcome of the game. how about the strategy of the new coach? so yeah, that kind of info is under the radar of AI, only those sportsbettors with up to date info can get such details.

Well, but at the end of the day humans also use all the data they have experienced their whole lives to predict something.

It's very similar in the end.

And I can also see why a human would not trust a machine. It's the typical us vs them phenomena.

[Betwrong]

Here to revive this place, ChatGPT just recently released initial support for ChatGPT plugins. TLDR of this is that it enables the AI to access the internet and search for live data, compared to it's previous model where it was stuck on data before 2021. Watched a code report about it and saw it was also able to store company data to a database, and ChatGPT can basically answer questions about it via accessing said database.

Just with these two capabilities, I reckon it's possible for it to store data across all professional players of a certain sport, assess reports for each individual player, and pretty much reveal statistical data about them, making it a LOT easier for people to understand who is better and what actually makes them better. Now, this may NOT exactly help in making 100% accurate predictions BUT it does open up a lot in terms of basic understanding of teams in a much more easy-to-understand way, but this time, backed with data, and a lot of it.

On a side note, Microsoft recently released a paper about how GPT-4 is also able to be "like" humans, didn't really bother reading it through but for anyone curious, the paper's title is "Sparks of Artificial General Intelligence: Early experiments with GPT-4"

Wow! That is really valuable information, @Wexnident! Thanks for that.

Have you, or anyone you know tried it yet?

I feel like from now on we are going to have some interesting conversation here in this thread. Can't wait for your posts regarding this, guys. I will try to figure out myself how to use it too, but I feel like it can take time.

[Hirose UK]

Sports betting is the first type of betting that I did and initially I only bet directly with a few people in my surroundings, such as relatives or just friends.
After getting to know the new crypto casino I became an active bettor and almost every match I participated in but never before have I used other people's predictions or predictions from artificial intelligence like al.
Belief in personal predictions is a priority, I have never trusted anyone or artificial intelligence in using predictions when betting.
Trusting the predictions given by other parties is tantamount to me taking a chance of defeat and this happened because there was no confidence in predictions that were not made by me.

[STT]

It's funny that people seem to put Elon Musk in anything related to technology.

They even claim he is Satoshi Nakamoto 

Highly unlikely sadly as that might be some use considering all the resources and money he has to hand.   He is just taking twitter out of open source into a closed pay to use API and apparently already broken its ongoing usage while doing so.   Hardly matches the idea of Bitcoin on multiple fronts, its practically an insult to insinuate as much.

[Wexnident]

Wow! That is really valuable information, @Wexnident! Thanks for that.

Have you, or anyone you know tried it yet?

I feel like from now on we are going to have some interesting conversation here in this thread. Can't wait for your posts regarding this, guys. I will try to figure out myself how to use it too, but I feel like it can take time.

You have to register to their waitlist before being able to access the feature. I actually got to know about this via a YT channel called fireship, and afaik a lot of articles have actually started covering it when it was released. It definitely opens up a LOT of capabilities now, ones I used to doubt when it originally had limited access to data.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Regards to gambling, there's no doubt that human intelligence is still the best thing to rely on.

You can't just ask an AI that haven't gambled yet but soon we might see these developers start to include that with AI activities and they'll gamble on their own.

As you've mentioned, it's still learning and soon everything we do including gambling, they'll also have time to cover that with whatever is gonna be asked on them. We'll never know if that time comes, it could be scary or not.

Well, you're right, I don't know how advanced the AI is with respect to predictions, but it's a matter of time before they can do something with more reliability,I don't know if they can achieve precision, but it's very difficult for them to manage it, but it's as you say, if they achieve something like that, it might be scary because an AI could not only predict bets in casinos, it could be used to predict events, or even the fate of many people with the data provided, this is something that can happen, but for now it is very far from achieving it,at the moment trusting an AI for these things is not good,it would be very feasible to lose money.

It is very risky to entrust your luck through AI. The predictions made by AI on gambling refer to a lot of data and several influencing factors. For example, in a match, Ai can make predictions by reading team data, weather, and other data, so some predictions will be given what could happen. But it won't be accurate enough, it's just a prediction made by an AI robot. and predictions can only be made on sports gambling that refers to a lot of data, and not on other gambling games. You need to remember again, relying on AI will only provide new risks, every gamble has an element of luck and everyone has it so no technology can predict luck.

Of course, obviously things with AI are like this, the data collected will never be the good option to decipher what can happen, also there are many things that influence sports games, who are the ones that motivate players to play like this, what It caught my attention, it was in the World Cup in Qatar where an AI predicted that the final would be between Portugal and Argentina, it was something really chilling because the one who won the mjudnial was Argentina, although the AI was wrong for the contender from Argentina, but It seems to me that it was just a coincidence, I know that the AI quickly pulls the statistics and that is a very good functionality.

[nullama]

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Of course, obviously things with AI are like this, the data collected will never be the good option to decipher what can happen, also there are many things that influence sports games, who are the ones that motivate players to play like this, what It caught my attention, it was in the World Cup in Qatar where an AI predicted that the final would be between Portugal and Argentina, it was something really chilling because the one who won the mjudnial was Argentina, although the AI was wrong for the contender from Argentina, but It seems to me that it was just a coincidence, I know that the AI quickly pulls the statistics and that is a very good functionality.

There were also some other predictions that said that France and Brazil would be in the final.

At the end of the day, given enough predictions, one of them will be right. So always keep that in mind. People tend to ignore the failed predictions and focus on the ones that actually happened.

[AicecreaME]

Regards to gambling, there's no doubt that human intelligence is still the best thing to rely on.

You can't just ask an AI that haven't gambled yet but soon we might see these developers start to include that with AI activities and they'll gamble on their own.

As you've mentioned, it's still learning and soon everything we do including gambling, they'll also have time to cover that with whatever is gonna be asked on them. We'll never know if that time comes, it could be scary or not.

Well, you're right, I don't know how advanced the AI is with respect to predictions, but it's a matter of time before they can do something with more reliability,I don't know if they can achieve precision, but it's very difficult for them to manage it, but it's as you say, if they achieve something like that, it might be scary because an AI could not only predict bets in casinos, it could be used to predict events, or even the fate of many people with the data provided, this is something that can happen, but for now it is very far from achieving it,at the moment trusting an AI for these things is not good,it would be very feasible to lose money.

It is very risky to entrust your luck through AI. The predictions made by AI on gambling refer to a lot of data and several influencing factors. For example, in a match, Ai can make predictions by reading team data, weather, and other data, so some predictions will be given what could happen. But it won't be accurate enough, it's just a prediction made by an AI robot. and predictions can only be made on sports gambling that refers to a lot of data, and not on other gambling games. You need to remember again, relying on AI will only provide new risks, every gamble has an element of luck and everyone has it so no technology can predict luck.

Of course, obviously things with AI are like this, the data collected will never be the good option to decipher what can happen, also there are many things that influence sports games, who are the ones that motivate players to play like this, what It caught my attention, it was in the World Cup in Qatar where an AI predicted that the final would be between Portugal and Argentina, it was something really chilling because the one who won the mjudnial was Argentina, although the AI was wrong for the contender from Argentina, but It seems to me that it was just a coincidence, I know that the AI quickly pulls the statistics and that is a very good functionality.

AI isn't mistake proof. It doesn't necessarily mean you will guarantee a winning the moment you use AI for predicting the outcome of the game. Sometimes, AI also encounter error because of lack of information which needs to be updated to calculate the result of the match.

This is why we shouldn't really rely fully on AI without verifying its results. We can use the predicted outcome as a basis, but not really as it is without conducting in depth research about the match, the team, and its players especially in sports betting.

[wxa7115]

AI isn't mistake proof. It doesn't necessarily mean you will guarantee a winning the moment you use AI for predicting the outcome of the game. Sometimes, AI also encounter error because of lack of information which needs to be updated to calculate the result of the match.

This is why we shouldn't really rely fully on AI without verifying its results. We can use the predicted outcome as a basis, but not really as it is without conducting in depth research about the match, the team, and its players especially in sports betting.

While a human could verify the results given by an AI on the early stages of the development, at the same time once they have confirmed the predictions are good enough to produce profits I doubt such process will keep taking place.

After all an AI is created not only to produce specific results about a difficult problem at hand, an AI is also supposed to save time, and if you have to verify each prediction made by the AI, you might as well just do everything on your own and not waste your time creating an AI as you are doing all the work anyway.

[SquallLeonhart]

While a human could verify the results given by an AI on the early stages of the development, at the same time once they have confirmed the predictions are good enough to produce profits I doubt such process will keep taking place.

After all an AI is created not only to produce specific results about a difficult problem at hand, an AI is also supposed to save time, and if you have to verify each prediction made by the AI, you might as well just do everything on your own and not waste your time creating an AI as you are doing all the work anyway.

I would guess that it is based on trust at first, which is the trouble. If you get an answer from an AI and do not want to check if it is a good idea to do it or not, basically if you don't do confirmation then you would be able to make it a very fast one, but if you are not entirely sure if it works yet then you will have to check.

It means that at first when we are beta testing stages, then we are going to do confirmation and that's going to be a time consuming one, but after that, after we are sure that it gives good results, then we are going to be capable of doing whatever we want and do it much faster. But I would never trust it to be fair personally, this applies to others who would.

[rahmad2nd]

It's great to have technology to help us have a better life. Back in the days life was very hard, now it's so much easier.

The thing is that humans will always crave human connection, and that will probably never be emulated by a robot.

In the past one or two decades, technological developments have been very rapid. and most of them are aimed at making it easier for us as humans, although some of them are for knowledge of science. and nowadays, technology has become an integral part of our lives, including the internet. the development of the internet, creating all new discoveries. or, very diverse innovations.

Maybe for now robots cannot follow or imitate humans, even though they have been designed in such a way as to involve artificial intelligence technology. however, don't be surprised if a few decades down the road if things change rapidly and we will never know it and realize it before.

People are starting to humanize chat AIs though, but it's still not the same as being face to face, as we all experienced in the pandemic.

Then, now the Al phenomenon has become a hot topic of conversation anywhere, including in our community. in fact, some others link this artificial intelligence to gambling. there are some examples from other threads covering the same discussion. and shared a video link, which attempts to combine Al with a bot to predict the outcome of a game.
To be honest I'm not sure this will work efficiently, because there are many factors that we can debate and discuss. but the development of Al seems to be growing rapidly, because it is very useful for us to make work easier. which in the end, we can never stop the development and sophistication of technology in the future. whether it is useful for gambling, or for people who like this artificial intelligence technology.

[Fredomago]

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Of course, obviously things with AI are like this, the data collected will never be the good option to decipher what can happen, also there are many things that influence sports games, who are the ones that motivate players to play like this, what It caught my attention, it was in the World Cup in Qatar where an AI predicted that the final would be between Portugal and Argentina, it was something really chilling because the one who won the mjudnial was Argentina, although the AI was wrong for the contender from Argentina, but It seems to me that it was just a coincidence, I know that the AI quickly pulls the statistics and that is a very good functionality.

There were also some other predictions that said that France and Brazil would be in the final.

At the end of the day, given enough predictions, one of them will be right. So always keep that in mind. People tend to ignore the failed predictions and focus on the ones that actually happened.

Agree to that, once it happen it happened and those who are believers will continue to follow those predictions as they will choose to pick winning side to remember and left the winning side to forge, I mean if AI developers will manage to bring something to the table and it happens that the predictions came true then expect that people will keep on eye with that services, while if that AI failed then those who thinks that it was true will forget about it and move on to another project,.

[wiss19]

now the Al phenomenon has become a hot topic of conversation anywhere, including in our community. in fact, some others link this artificial intelligence to gambling. there are some examples from other threads covering the same discussion. and shared a video link, which attempts to combine Al with a bot to predict the outcome of a game.
To be honest I'm not sure this will work efficiently, because there are many factors that we can debate and discuss. but the development of Al seems to be growing rapidly, because it is very useful for us to make work easier. which in the end, we can never stop the development and sophistication of technology in the future. whether it is useful for gambling, or for people who like this artificial intelligence technology.

AI is without a doubt one of the most hyped technological advancements of today's era, and the hype is not fake or created deliberately to promote some AI products, but it is because some of the AI models or products have gained significant success in a very short span of time, naming ChatGPT as an example would be wrong in this regard.

Gaining 1 million users in a span of 5 days isn't something normal, and ChatGPT achieved that feat which is why I say that AI earned the hype and that is the reason why it's being discussed almost everywhere. And if we think about it, it's only the starting phase of it, imagine what would happen once it improves significantly in the future.