[POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes

[Fredomago]

Didn't know that we can use an AI to predict the match. I am not sure how much they have improved the AI but I think at some point that it will be reliable, maybe we can get information in the AI and we can double analyze it to improve the first impression or idea from the AI.

We can't fully rely on the AI yet in my opinion.

Ai has been predicting the outcome of sporting events for a very long time now. I remember seeing these prediction come out whenever there's a big tournament like the champions league or world cup. The last world cup was predicted by an AI that Argentina were to lift the trophy and it ended up been so. Even though this prediction comes out positive, I can't fully put my trust on them as others have predicted wrongly in the past as well.

Then when it come to games that requires the players to be lucky that doesn't need specific factors to be put under considerations like how good the teams has been in the past or currently is, I don't think an AI can be more lucky than me as I'll always stick to myself and play the games.

AI predictions certainly are based from something, like the past history of the team or the athletes.
It depends on how it was coded to predict a certain event given all available resources.
The developer himself would know the capability of the AI as he knows what criteria has been integrated into it.
However, what it is missing is the actual scenario happening inside the field. It can't anticipate an injury or a sudden sickness of the player during the event.
Other possible factors that can influence the outcome are altering the coach's strategy, the athlete's line-up, heat and altitude and so on.
AI may give us their prediction but still, it is limited to what they have. One can match his personal prediction vs. AI, and see where it stands.

The technology used on that AI program is something into a highest level.

That's the reason it can give predictions and speculations close to being accurate because it has lots of sources used to form an analyis.

In gambling related, if it's used as reference, nothing wrong on doing that as long as not totally relying all our bets with it.

Yup, it will use all the avaliable resources to give you good basis before you place your bet, though there are many factors that can affects the outcome of the game, accidental injuries or issues with the executions of the plays and so on, AI can give you ideas with the past games and performances of the players and teams but in live events there are things that AI can't provide, it's still human intervention that will give you decent chance in winning the bets.

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[fullhdpixel]

The technology used on that AI program is something into a highest level.

That's the reason it can give predictions and speculations close to being accurate because it has lots of sources used to form an analyis.

In gambling related, if it's used as reference, nothing wrong on doing that as long as not totally relying all our bets with it.

Yeah, there is a strong AI wind right now that is getting bigger and bigger, people are acting as if this is such a normal thing because AI is looking better than ever, but the reality is that we just cracked a few ceilings and have a bit better AI and it's nowhere near the level where it can predict outcomes of games.

You can believe in that as much as you want, you can think that it is possible, but it is just not possible at all, it never will be, you will never know this result at all. Maybe a percentage of who may win could be given, but even a team with 1% chance to win could end up winning, it's not zero, it's 1% and that means there is a chance for it.

[Quidat]

The technology used on that AI program is something into a highest level.

That's the reason it can give predictions and speculations close to being accurate because it has lots of sources used to form an analyis.

In gambling related, if it's used as reference, nothing wrong on doing that as long as not totally relying all our bets with it.

Yeah, there is a strong AI wind right now that is getting bigger and bigger, people are acting as if this is such a normal thing because AI is looking better than ever, but the reality is that we just cracked a few ceilings and have a bit better AI and it's nowhere near the level where it can predict outcomes of games.

You can believe in that as much as you want, you can think that it is possible, but it is just not possible at all, it never will be, you will never know this result at all. Maybe a percentage of who may win could be given, but even a team with 1% chance to win could end up winning, it's not zero, it's 1% and that means there is a chance for it.

Even on the future on which i dont really believe that AI could really be able to make up decisions basing up with some factors which people or human beings could able to sense or able to see.
This is why its really hard to believe that time comes where AI is much more advanced but still there are things which cant really be touched up comparing on how human beings do really have that
on point reverse of decisions basing up on different factors which no AI could able to sense it out.This is why its never been that a good idea on having this kind of consideration on which
you are really that relying too much on AI capabilities specially into this early moment of its development i should say.

[darewaller]

Even on the future on which i dont really believe that AI could really be able to make up decisions basing up with some factors which people or human beings could able to sense or able to see.
This is why its really hard to believe that time comes where AI is much more advanced but still there are things which cant really be touched up comparing on how human beings do really have that
on point reverse of decisions basing up on different factors which no AI could able to sense it out.This is why its never been that a good idea on having this kind of consideration on which
you are really that relying too much on AI capabilities specially into this early moment of its development i should say.

Depends on that decision you are talking about. As of now there are AI's that is being used on different industries of fields. One example can be on the factories. AI there can decide easily because they help the production team on that factory to process products faster. As long as humans can do it then expect that AI can also copy it.

What can't they only do is predicting because that is something can't be done by the humans but despite of it, there are still attempts that I see that people are using AI in trading and also in betting. Well good luck on them. I don't want to mess with that because I am afraid to lose money and doing so can reduce the fun and thrill that I'm supposed to experience on doing those activities.

[OgNasty]

I feel like this thread has become rather popular and it’s my bad that I haven’t yet given an example. I’ll try to make this a priority next week so that this is more than a thought exercise and people can see the actual real world results of using AI to predictively gamble on sporting events. I am fairly certain I know how to make it happen now, I just need to set aside the time to do it.

[uneng]

What can't they only do is predicting because that is something can't be done by the humans but despite of it, there are still attempts that I see that people are using AI in trading and also in betting. Well good luck on them. I don't want to mess with that because I am afraid to lose money and doing so can reduce the fun and thrill that I'm supposed to experience on doing those activities.

Predicting future outcomes is something that can't be done by humans, animals or machines and it will never be. AIs can thinking about possibilities, just like humans, but accuracy is never going to be a guarantee. But it's not unsual that AIs are being promoted as a safe tool for betting, because there are developers who earn money with this, just like trading bots developers and every other professionals working inside the clairvoyance industry, including the esoteric ones.

[goldkingcoiner]

What can't they only do is predicting because that is something can't be done by the humans but despite of it, there are still attempts that I see that people are using AI in trading and also in betting. Well good luck on them. I don't want to mess with that because I am afraid to lose money and doing so can reduce the fun and thrill that I'm supposed to experience on doing those activities.

Predicting future outcomes is something that can't be done by humans, animals or machines and it will never be. AIs can thinking about possibilities, just like humans, but accuracy is never going to be a guarantee. But it's not unsual that AIs are being promoted as a safe tool for betting, because there are developers who earn money with this, just like trading bots developers and every other professionals working inside the clairvoyance industry, including the esoteric ones.

I think its possible to predict futures but only to a certain degree. 100% is of course impossible because of the very nature of the universe at the smallest measurements. But what we can predict is the probabilities of certain future events. This is where AI can definitely do much more than the human mind. And the more complex and advanced AI technology becomes, the better the predictions become...

Either way, its due to the probabilistic nature of the predictions, it will be considered gambling but with improved odds. So, not that much of an improvement.


Also, since the technology is available to everyone, that means everyone will expect the same outcome. This will have an effect of lowering the odds automatically.

[Zilon]

Predicting future outcomes is something that can't be done by humans, animals or machines and it will never be. AIs can thinking about possibilities, just like humans, but accuracy is never going to be a guarantee. But it's not unsual that AIs are being promoted as a safe tool for betting, because there are developers who earn money with this, just like trading bots developers and every other professionals working inside the clairvoyance industry, including the esoteric ones.

AI can make attempts on future predictions. This machines are feed with sample datas and they are made to learn from past events which aid this bots  make predictions based on what they learn from the models they are been trained on. AI is rapidly increasing. They might get their predictions wrong in few cases but definitely their guesses will be far better than those of human thinking.

[Fredomago]

Predicting future outcomes is something that can't be done by humans, animals or machines and it will never be. AIs can thinking about possibilities, just like humans, but accuracy is never going to be a guarantee. But it's not unsual that AIs are being promoted as a safe tool for betting, because there are developers who earn money with this, just like trading bots developers and every other professionals working inside the clairvoyance industry, including the esoteric ones.

AI can make attempts on future predictions. This machines are feed with sample datas and they are made to learn from past events which aid this bots  make predictions based on what they learn from the models they are been trained on. AI is rapidly increasing. They might get their predictions wrong in few cases but definitely their guesses will be far better than those of human thinking.

If basing from with data then yes it can be more better than human analysis, there are things that human can ruined their bets, emotions and out of control decision making, you might have a better chance if you will allow AI to bring good data then run it from the system to pick the closes winning pick then check and base everything with how AI provided information about the selected pick.

The last part is for you to judge whether the pick is good or you needed to have more info before taking the risk of betting with the one being provided.

[Mahanton]

Predicting future outcomes is something that can't be done by humans, animals or machines and it will never be. AIs can thinking about possibilities, just like humans, but accuracy is never going to be a guarantee. But it's not unsual that AIs are being promoted as a safe tool for betting, because there are developers who earn money with this, just like trading bots developers and every other professionals working inside the clairvoyance industry, including the esoteric ones.

AI can make attempts on future predictions. This machines are feed with sample datas and they are made to learn from past events which aid this bots  make predictions based on what they learn from the models they are been trained on. AI is rapidly increasing. They might get their predictions wrong in few cases but definitely their guesses will be far better than those of human thinking.

If basing from with data then yes it can be more better than human analysis, there are things that human can ruined their bets, emotions and out of control decision making, you might have a better chance if you will allow AI to bring good data then run it from the system to pick the closes winning pick then check and base everything with how AI provided information about the selected pick.

The last part is for you to judge whether the pick is good or you needed to have more info before taking the risk of betting with the one being provided.

Emotion is just like a double blade which it could really be a disadvantage but at the same time it could really be an edge considering that AI's couldnt able to assess particular conditions which you would really be making out decisions basing into your own analysis.This is why its better to assess your own predictions basing up with your own skills and analysis rather than on making yourself that relying into these AI which i dont
see for it to be that relevant. Also, it should really be that separated because there are really that things which arent meant to be touched up by these things or not really
that relevant at all.

[uneng]

I think its possible to predict futures but only to a certain degree. 100% is of course impossible because of the very nature of the universe at the smallest measurements. But what we can predict is the probabilities of certain future events. This is where AI can definitely do much more than the human mind. And the more complex and advanced AI technology becomes, the better the predictions become...

Either way, its due to the probabilistic nature of the predictions, it will be considered gambling but with improved odds. So, not that much of an improvement.


Also, since the technology is available to everyone, that means everyone will expect the same outcome. This will have an effect of lowering the odds automatically.

AI can make attempts on future predictions. This machines are feed with sample datas and they are made to learn from past events which aid this bots  make predictions based on what they learn from the models they are been trained on. AI is rapidly increasing. They might get their predictions wrong in few cases but definitely their guesses will be far better than those of human thinking.

But isn't it what sportsbooks already do when offering odds to gamblers? The favorite team/athlete has the lowest odds, while the underdog has the highest odds. In order to reach those odds results they have to do calculations, just like the AI does when finding the most likely outcome for a match. That means the AI can help us concluding who is the favorite and the underdog of a match, however, since sportsbook already do that, do gamblers really need an AI for that purpose?

[nullama]

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Emotion is just like a double blade which it could really be a disadvantage but at the same time it could really be an edge considering that AI's couldnt able to assess particular conditions which you would really be making out decisions basing into your own analysis.This is why its better to assess your own predictions basing up with your own skills and analysis rather than on making yourself that relying into these AI which i dont
see for it to be that relevant. Also, it should really be that separated because there are really that things which arent meant to be touched up by these things or not really
that relevant at all.

Well, the thing is that with an AI, you can use it to obtain lots of data points, and still decide for yourself.

It can make the process of gathering the statistics much simpler for you.

You don't have to trust what the AI thinks, you can simply use it as a faster search engine.

[Distinctin]

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Emotion is just like a double blade which it could really be a disadvantage but at the same time it could really be an edge considering that AI's couldnt able to assess particular conditions which you would really be making out decisions basing into your own analysis.This is why its better to assess your own predictions basing up with your own skills and analysis rather than on making yourself that relying into these AI which i dont
see for it to be that relevant. Also, it should really be that separated because there are really that things which arent meant to be touched up by these things or not really
that relevant at all.

Well, the thing is that with an AI, you can use it to obtain lots of data points, and still decide for yourself.

It can make the process of gathering the statistics much simpler for you.

You don't have to trust what the AI thinks, you can simply use it as a faster search engine.

And I would like to add, AI might not be able to obtain the latest information, and since this is sports betting, we need to see the fresh news and even speculation so our decision is back with accurate data. I would only trust AI on historical information but not on sports betting, there's nothing we can trust here but ourselves if we want to be a winner.

[Casdinyard]

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Emotion is just like a double blade which it could really be a disadvantage but at the same time it could really be an edge considering that AI's couldnt able to assess particular conditions which you would really be making out decisions basing into your own analysis.This is why its better to assess your own predictions basing up with your own skills and analysis rather than on making yourself that relying into these AI which i dont
see for it to be that relevant. Also, it should really be that separated because there are really that things which arent meant to be touched up by these things or not really
that relevant at all.

Well, the thing is that with an AI, you can use it to obtain lots of data points, and still decide for yourself.

It can make the process of gathering the statistics much simpler for you.

You don't have to trust what the AI thinks, you can simply use it as a faster search engine.

And I would like to add, AI might not be able to obtain the latest information, and since this is sports betting, we need to see the fresh news and even speculation so our decision is back with accurate data. I would only trust AI on historical information but not on sports betting, there's nothing we can trust here but ourselves if we want to be a winner.

As of now, AI language models like ChatGPT do rely on archived and past information to run. Thus using it for information regarding who would win in tomorrow's games is going to be kaput. In any case, I see it improving in the foreseeable future and provided that it was given sufficient information that it doesn't need to make shit up anymore when asked a question it has limited information about, it could be of great use to people who are looking to predict games and outcomes for themselves or as a form of business. Anyhow, that is still too far from the future, so we can rest assured that the integrity of today's games aren't in jeopardy, at least in a way that we don't know who'd win and who'd lose.

[death69]

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Emotion is just like a double blade which it could really be a disadvantage but at the same time it could really be an edge considering that AI's couldnt able to assess particular conditions which you would really be making out decisions basing into your own analysis.This is why its better to assess your own predictions basing up with your own skills and analysis rather than on making yourself that relying into these AI which i dont
see for it to be that relevant. Also, it should really be that separated because there are really that things which arent meant to be touched up by these things or not really
that relevant at all.

Yo, when it comes to gamblin, emotions can be a real double-edge sword. On the one hand, they can mess up your thinkin and make you do some cray impulsive stuff that aint based on no real analysis. But on the other hand, emotions can give you a real edge over them AI systems that cant read human intuition and perception. But let me tell ya, its important to keep them emotions in check and not be makin decisions solely based on how you feel. You gotta assess your own skills and analysis and not just rely on no AI or other external factors. And hey, there are some things that emotions just aint meant to be messin with, like ethical considerations and personal values. From my own wise experience, you gotta find that sweet spot between trustin your gut and doin some real rational analysis when makin decisions, whether its in gamblin or any other field.

[Fatunad]

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Emotion is just like a double blade which it could really be a disadvantage but at the same time it could really be an edge considering that AI's couldnt able to assess particular conditions which you would really be making out decisions basing into your own analysis.This is why its better to assess your own predictions basing up with your own skills and analysis rather than on making yourself that relying into these AI which i dont
see for it to be that relevant. Also, it should really be that separated because there are really that things which arent meant to be touched up by these things or not really
that relevant at all.

Yo, when it comes to gamblin, emotions can be a real double-edge sword. On the one hand, they can mess up your thinkin and make you do some cray impulsive stuff that aint based on no real analysis. But on the other hand, emotions can give you a real edge over them AI systems that cant read human intuition and perception. But let me tell ya, its important to keep them emotions in check and not be makin decisions solely based on how you feel. You gotta assess your own skills and analysis and not just rely on no AI or other external factors. And hey, there are some things that emotions just aint meant to be messin with, like ethical considerations and personal values. From my own wise experience, you gotta find that sweet spot between trustin your gut and doin some real rational analysis when makin decisions, whether its in gamblin or any other field.

If you arent that good on handling up your emotions then you would really be messing up on things on what you are currently dealing with.Just like been said that AI is useless when it comes on betting or something that deals with gambling and i agree that speculation doesnt work on something that looks like a textbook where every information is really clearly precisely been told.Decision making is really very crucial specially when it comes to betting and there's no way that it could be predicted by an AI basing up on past events, there might be some considerable approach and recommendation but its not something that you could really
make use efficiently.

[nakamura12]

Yo, when it comes to gamblin, emotions can be a real double-edge sword. On the one hand, they can mess up your thinkin and make you do some cray impulsive stuff that aint based on no real analysis. But on the other hand, emotions can give you a real edge over them AI systems that cant read human intuition and perception. But let me tell ya, its important to keep them emotions in check and not be makin decisions solely based on how you feel. You gotta assess your own skills and analysis and not just rely on no AI or other external factors. And hey, there are some things that emotions just aint meant to be messin with, like ethical considerations and personal values. From my own wise experience, you gotta find that sweet spot between trustin your gut and doin some real rational analysis when makin decisions, whether its in gamblin or any other field.

If you ask me, nothing beats the thrill, effort or whatever it is that we place a bet using our own brain and knowledge we have for a chance to win unlike using AI to decide on which one you should bet but AI is much more reliable in keeping, managing or analysing the data and most of all gathering data much faster than a person does but the negative side is you have to update the AI. Well, AI is indeed unable to read human intuition but AI doesn't have emotions which can affect a person's thinking in making decisions. A person's thinking in making decisions might be affected by emotions but you can also choose not to let emotions affect you in making decisions. I would say that is much better if you use AI what it's intended for and in my opinion, it is for analysing the data and after that then you can base your decision from the data in the AI.

[KTChampions]

I feel like this thread has become rather popular and it’s my bad that I haven’t yet given an example. I’ll try to make this a priority next week so that this is more than a thought exercise and people can see the actual real world results of using AI to predictively gamble on sporting events. I am fairly certain I know how to make it happen now, I just need to set aside the time to do it.

Due to the recent success of neural networks in areas (drawings, music, programming, etc.) where they were considered incapable of succeeding, the letter AI is now attracting everyone's attention  
By the way, let me try to guess - your example is about processing statistical information? It seems to me the most obvious, because knowing the "digitized personality" of an athlete/team, you can more accurately predict its results.

[QueenVera]

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

I had to follow more of peiple who leave the hope of their betting to AI and well I see so much confidence in the morales of people who indulge in such practice of leaving their bets to AI and at some points I was really tempted to join but I really couldn't trust the process that much because it's a 50/50 ratio to me as there are both losses and progits and nothing is actually gauranteed in the gambling industry.

But I really don't see any reason why I ahould leave or trust an AI to mae my bets for me because I'm very sure that I wouldn't be able to tskenit lightly if thete was a loss because I love to see the cause of failure just incase there is one and this reason alone wouldn't let me use AI as there wouldn't be an physical person for me to verge the disappointment on.

[Wexnident]

Due to the recent success of neural networks in areas (drawings, music, programming, etc.) where they were considered incapable of succeeding, the letter AI is now attracting everyone's attention  
By the way, let me try to guess - your example is about processing statistical information? It seems to me the most obvious, because knowing the "digitized personality" of an athlete/team, you can more accurately predict its results.

Was plenty surprised when a lot of AI samples generated realistic images. Not realistic drawings, but realistic images. I wouldn't have doubted it was a photo taken by someone else really if I didn't see that it was just AI-generated, I feel like just a few months back I doubted how AI can do this and that but now they've pretty much done a lot already comparatively speaking.

Also, I'd be plenty surprised if there was some sort of method that didn't need statistics to generate a guess. Generally speaking, most predictions made by people often rely on data, it can come from a lot of sources though and some may be incomplete or not but that's basically the basis for everything. Tbf I reckon an AI built on top of how bookmakers provide their odds can probably give out semi-accurate predictions already.