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January 20, 2023, 06:29:33 PM
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The popularity of ChatGPT as a prediction tool is undeniable, but I wouldn't use it to place bets. Due to a lack of information beyond the year 2021, the model may not be able to provide reliable forecasts of the present. As a corollary, there are several elements and variables that might affect the result of a game or match, even when using the most up-to-date statistics.

If you want to win at betting, you need to perform your own homework first. ChatGPT is just one source of information, so while it could be entertaining to check out what it predicts, you shouldn't put all your eggs in that basket.You should always take predictions with a grain of salt and view ss with a healthy dose of skepticism. Always gamble responsibly and don't rely on just one source for betting information; instead, acquire several opinions.

However, if a more accurate model is available using the most recent information, I will most certainly employ it to increase my earnings potential

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January 20, 2023, 07:01:19 PM
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I don’t think anyone is saying that AI will be able to correctly predict the winner of a sporting event anywhere near 100% accuracy. I’m just curious if it could do better than the average gambler. Maybe put AI to the test in a head to head competition with someone who thinks they are good at sporting predictions to see how they perform. As soon as I figure out how to trick AI into making these predictions, I’ll give it a shot.
Well, I don't see how it will ever be possible for AI to correctly predict the outcome of a match, this is because like we witnessed in the Qatar 2022 fifa world cup that ended last month, football games are full of surprises, things are not always the way they seem, let's use the game between Argentina and Saudi Arabia as a reference, who would have taught that Saudi Arabia would beat Argentina in that match, how possible is it that an AI would correctly predict that Saudi would Beat Argentina?
Even Saudi Arabia team coach said in an interview that he was at that moment still shocked that they beat Argentina, said it was nothing but luck on their side.

So personally, I don't think AI can really do the job of predicting matches correctly at 100 percent accuracy.

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January 20, 2023, 08:16:44 PM
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I don’t think anyone is saying that AI will be able to correctly predict the winner of a sporting event anywhere near 100% accuracy. I’m just curious if it could do better than the average gambler. Maybe put AI to the test in a head to head competition with someone who thinks they are good at sporting predictions to see how they perform. As soon as I figure out how to trick AI into making these predictions, I’ll give it a shot.
Why you wont really take a shot on making up that comparison rather than on waiting for someone to test it out and tell their feedbacks? It would be a long wait since not all would really be tending to give out their

opinion most of the time and would just simply forget on saying up things in relation to it specially into this forum.Good if they would really be that mindful on sharing their real experience but most of the time then it wont really be that much of a concern.Its better to test of your own and find out for yourself whether it would really be that effective or not.So it does really vary on someones approach but in overall
there's no way that could AI give out best results or winning side considering that everything would  really be that speculative.

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January 21, 2023, 04:10:50 AM
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Well, I don't see how it will ever be possible for AI to correctly predict the outcome of a match, this is because like we witnessed in the Qatar 2022 fifa world cup that ended last month, football games are full of surprises, things are not always the way they seem, let's use the game between Argentina and Saudi Arabia as a reference, who would have taught that Saudi Arabia would beat Argentina in that match, how possible is it that an AI would correctly predict that Saudi would Beat Argentina?
Even Saudi Arabia team coach said in an interview that he was at that moment still shocked that they beat Argentina, said it was nothing but luck on their side.

So personally, I don't think AI can really do the job of predicting matches correctly at 100 percent accuracy.

The thing is that predictions are in the realm of probabilities, and statistics, so it's really difficult for us humans to just simply get a feel of how good a system is for estimating the matches.

To evaluate a system like this, a thorough analysis must be done, and not simply a one-off of hit or miss, giving it a 100% or 0% probability.

AI can definitely improve upon the previous methods used for estimating the odds, but of course it will never be 100% accurate because it's a random event.

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January 21, 2023, 07:15:44 AM
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Well, I don't see how it will ever be possible for AI to correctly predict the outcome of a match, this is because like we witnessed in the Qatar 2022 fifa world cup that ended last month, football games are full of surprises, things are not always the way they seem, let's use the game between Argentina and Saudi Arabia as a reference, who would have taught that Saudi Arabia would beat Argentina in that match, how possible is it that an AI would correctly predict that Saudi would Beat Argentina?
Even Saudi Arabia team coach said in an interview that he was at that moment still shocked that they beat Argentina, said it was nothing but luck on their side.

So personally, I don't think AI can really do the job of predicting matches correctly at 100 percent accuracy.

The thing is that predictions are in the realm of probabilities, and statistics, so it's really difficult for us humans to just simply get a feel of how good a system is for estimating the matches.

To evaluate a system like this, a thorough analysis must be done, and not simply a one-off of hit or miss, giving it a 100% or 0% probability.

AI can definitely improve upon the previous methods used for estimating the odds, but of course it will never be 100% accurate because it's a random event.
Maybe one day, AI can provide predictions based on probabilities and statistics obtained from the results of past matches so that AI can provide information on who can win that match.
To evaluate it, AI developers must continuously test to see how much AI can help us get valid data useful for choosing competing teams.
Using AI, we can reduce the time we spend looking for additional data and focus on other things before we place the bet.
But it looks like the AI technology hasn't reached that stage yet so we still have to wait a while longer.
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January 21, 2023, 08:11:40 AM
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ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

There are companies out there who specialise in this sort of thing, but unless the ai has up to the minute inputs of news (like the top striker in a football team got injured the day before the match) then it'd not going to be especially effective. It is only as useful as the data it's been fed. Otherwise you might as well just gather statistics and come to more up to date conclusions based on relevant data.

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ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?
There are companies out there who specialise in this sort of thing, but unless the ai has up to the minute inputs of news (like the top striker in a football team got injured the day before the match) then it'd not going to be especially effective. It is only as useful as the data it's been fed. Otherwise you might as well just gather statistics and come to more up to date conclusions based on relevant data.
I agree that the data that you feed it will be the only thing that it will base the whole thing on, but the reality is that we are not going to see any AI that could put the "human" part of the football or basketball or any sports into the calculation. Why do you think that all those unexpected things happen in sports?

I have been giving the same response for a whole year, and I am going to say that again, Real lost to Sheriff and won the UCL last year, no AI in the world could ever calculate that. This is why it's going to be impossible to calculate these things. That's just me, maybe it would lose a bit but win a lot more and that's going to make people some profit.

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January 21, 2023, 08:33:56 PM
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ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

There are companies out there who specialise in this sort of thing, but unless the ai has up to the minute inputs of news (like the top striker in a football team got injured the day before the match) then it'd not going to be especially effective. It is only as useful as the data it's been fed. Otherwise you might as well just gather statistics and come to more up to date conclusions based on relevant data.

Ya, I’m not saying it would be reliable in any way. At this point it would mostly be for fun to see if AI could currently even be manipulated into making such predictions. I wouldn’t recommend anyone take out a loan and go all in on whatever ChatGPT says to do. It would be a fun experiment though. I keep saying I need to try it out but I just haven’t made time yet. Free time at the PC is just so valuable…

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January 21, 2023, 11:15:41 PM
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ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

There are companies out there who specialise in this sort of thing, but unless the ai has up to the minute inputs of news (like the top striker in a football team got injured the day before the match) then it'd not going to be especially effective. It is only as useful as the data it's been fed. Otherwise you might as well just gather statistics and come to more up to date conclusions based on relevant data.

Ya, I’m not saying it would be reliable in any way. At this point it would mostly be for fun to see if AI could currently even be manipulated into making such predictions. I wouldn’t recommend anyone take out a loan and go all in on whatever ChatGPT says to do. It would be a fun experiment though. I keep saying I need to try it out but I just haven’t made time yet. Free time at the PC is just so valuable…
It would be a suicide if you do really end up on having this kind of mindset and belief on mind about getting some loan and going all in just because you do really believe on AI winning rate?
For some testing then it wont really be that bad but it would really be jut good for proving out your curiosity but if you do rely on it then it would be an another story.
Dont make yourself believe that these things does work because if it does then all of us would really be that filthy rich and make our all bets to be profitable.
So it doesnt really work, it is really just people becomes too desperate on trying out new things.
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January 21, 2023, 11:26:41 PM
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It would be a suicide if you do really end up on having this kind of mindset and belief on mind about getting some loan and going all in just because you do really believe on AI winning rate?
For some testing then it wont really be that bad but it would really be jut good for proving out your curiosity but if you do rely on it then it would be an another story.
Dont make yourself believe that these things does work because if it does then all of us would really be that filthy rich and make our all bets to be profitable.
So it doesnt really work, it is really just people becomes too desperate on trying out new things.

I think there might be a possibility of getting better odds than some companies that are not using AI to calculate their odds.

But in the end it's a small amount of probability to get it right, so I wouldn't put too much money on it.

Maybe for things that are rare, and the AI is saying it will happen, maybe for those it's worth using it.

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So it doesnt really work, it is really just people becomes too desperate on trying out new things.

If all of us knew where to place our bets so that the probability of winning was the highest, we wouldn't be filthy rich, in my opinion, because the odds for those outcomes would drop dramatically. Would you bet on a team that AI predicted should win, but the odds were 1.01? If yes, then you could be betting on dice with 98% win chance with the same success.

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It would be a suicide if you do really end up on having this kind of mindset and belief on mind about getting some loan and going all in just because you do really believe on AI winning rate?
For some testing then it wont really be that bad but it would really be jut good for proving out your curiosity but if you do rely on it then it would be an another story.
Dont make yourself believe that these things does work because if it does then all of us would really be that filthy rich and make our all bets to be profitable.
So it doesnt really work, it is really just people becomes too desperate on trying out new things.

I think there might be a possibility of getting better odds than some companies that are not using AI to calculate their odds.

But in the end it's a small amount of probability to get it right, so I wouldn't put too much money on it.

Maybe for things that are rare, and the AI is saying it will happen, maybe for those it's worth using it.
We don't really know how big the chance is to get a win from using AI for gambling. But if the chances of winning are getting bigger, the news will surely spread to many gamblers so that many gamblers will try it to see the results. And if it works for some people, there will be many more who will try it and most of them will use more money to gamble. I can't imagine what if AI technology is applied to gambling and a question arises: whether casinos can survive the many people who can win from many games.

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January 22, 2023, 03:34:40 PM
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It would be a suicide if you do really end up on having this kind of mindset and belief on mind about getting some loan and going all in just because you do really believe on AI winning rate?
For some testing then it wont really be that bad but it would really be jut good for proving out your curiosity but if you do rely on it then it would be an another story.
Dont make yourself believe that these things does work because if it does then all of us would really be that filthy rich and make our all bets to be profitable.
So it doesnt really work, it is really just people becomes too desperate on trying out new things.

I think there might be a possibility of getting better odds than some companies that are not using AI to calculate their odds.

But in the end it's a small amount of probability to get it right, so I wouldn't put too much money on it.

Maybe for things that are rare, and the AI is saying it will happen, maybe for those it's worth using it.
We don't really know how big the chance is to get a win from using AI for gambling. But if the chances of winning are getting bigger, the news will surely spread to many gamblers so that many gamblers will try it to see the results. And if it works for some people, there will be many more who will try it and most of them will use more money to gamble. I can't imagine what if AI technology is applied to gambling and a question arises: whether casinos can survive the many people who can win from many games.

We're all curious about what AI can do if the data it has is updated every now and then. You wouldn't think for 1 sec not to try asking the AI if your analysis of a sports match is close to its analysis. It gives you a second confirmation that your confidence to bet increases.

Of course, if AI can do it, it's a breakthrough. And if I think of betting just $25 and then the AI says my prediction is close to its prediction, I might just bet $50.


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January 22, 2023, 07:38:47 PM
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It would be a suicide if you do really end up on having this kind of mindset and belief on mind about getting some loan and going all in just because you do really believe on AI winning rate?
For some testing then it wont really be that bad but it would really be jut good for proving out your curiosity but if you do rely on it then it would be an another story.
Dont make yourself believe that these things does work because if it does then all of us would really be that filthy rich and make our all bets to be profitable.
So it doesnt really work, it is really just people becomes too desperate on trying out new things.

I think there might be a possibility of getting better odds than some companies that are not using AI to calculate their odds.

But in the end it's a small amount of probability to get it right, so I wouldn't put too much money on it.

Maybe for things that are rare, and the AI is saying it will happen, maybe for those it's worth using it.
We don't really know how big the chance is to get a win from using AI for gambling. But if the chances of winning are getting bigger, the news will surely spread to many gamblers so that many gamblers will try it to see the results. And if it works for some people, there will be many more who will try it and most of them will use more money to gamble. I can't imagine what if AI technology is applied to gambling and a question arises: whether casinos can survive the many people who can win from many games.

We're all curious about what AI can do if the data it has is updated every now and then. You wouldn't think for 1 sec not to try asking the AI if your analysis of a sports match is close to its analysis. It gives you a second confirmation that your confidence to bet increases.

Of course, if AI can do it, it's a breakthrough. And if I think of betting just $25 and then the AI says my prediction is close to its prediction, I might just bet $50.

I like yourpoint, a second confirmation to convince you that the analysis that you did are also being back up by the data which AI can detect, a good basis to add more to your potential bets, if there's already a good chance to win then placing much bigger bet probably will be the option for most gamblers who can read the analysis very well.

Though it is still gambling and even there's a good basis according to data the chnace of losing can't be removed, there's no accurate if bad luck takeover with your bet.

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January 22, 2023, 09:40:41 PM
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I like yourpoint, a second confirmation to convince you that the analysis that you did are also being back up by the data which AI can detect, a good basis to add more to your potential bets, if there's already a good chance to win then placing much bigger bet probably will be the option for most gamblers who can read the analysis very well.

Though it is still gambling and even there's a good basis according to data the chnace of losing can't be removed, there's no accurate if bad luck takeover with your bet.

For anyone actually considering doing this, I would like to remind them that the publicly available AIs like ChatGPT, etc, are all trained with data from months or years ago. This is because the training of those systems is really time consuming and requires a huge infrastructure.

This means that the AI won't have fresh data to make predictions, so anything that has happened recently will not be included in the calculations of the AI.

This makes it not as good in terms of predicting a match for tomorrow let's say.

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January 22, 2023, 09:59:29 PM
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Just two words about this subject (AI) that became more talked about since the hype about Chatgpt. Well the bot isn't bad but far from being perfect and requires human intervention to fix the text but can help people getting ideas and so on.
For sports, we always hear about AI selecting the winner for big competitions which ends up being eliminated then select another winner Roll Eyes
Data has nothing to do with real events but can give an overall idea about it. For example, with covid-19, we saw half of the team being absent and the result was the opposite..

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It would be a suicide if you do really end up on having this kind of mindset and belief on mind about getting some loan and going all in just because you do really believe on AI winning rate?
For some testing then it wont really be that bad but it would really be jut good for proving out your curiosity but if you do rely on it then it would be an another story.
Dont make yourself believe that these things does work because if it does then all of us would really be that filthy rich and make our all bets to be profitable.
So it doesnt really work, it is really just people becomes too desperate on trying out new things.

I think there might be a possibility of getting better odds than some companies that are not using AI to calculate their odds.

But in the end it's a small amount of probability to get it right, so I wouldn't put too much money on it.

Maybe for things that are rare, and the AI is saying it will happen, maybe for those it's worth using it.
We don't really know how big the chance is to get a win from using AI for gambling. But if the chances of winning are getting bigger, the news will surely spread to many gamblers so that many gamblers will try it to see the results. And if it works for some people, there will be many more who will try it and most of them will use more money to gamble. I can't imagine what if AI technology is applied to gambling and a question arises: whether casinos can survive the many people who can win from many games.

We're all curious about what AI can do if the data it has is updated every now and then. You wouldn't think for 1 sec not to try asking the AI if your analysis of a sports match is close to its analysis. It gives you a second confirmation that your confidence to bet increases.

Of course, if AI can do it, it's a breakthrough. And if I think of betting just $25 and then the AI says my prediction is close to its prediction, I might just bet $50.

I like yourpoint, a second confirmation to convince you that the analysis that you did are also being back up by the data which AI can detect, a good basis to add more to your potential bets, if there's already a good chance to win then placing much bigger bet probably will be the option for most gamblers who can read the analysis very well.

Though it is still gambling and even there's a good basis according to data the chnace of losing can't be removed, there's no accurate if bad luck takeover with your bet.
You can use AI like this also, You can use AI as a validation or a second opinion to your chosen bet. You will put an additional work from doing it but the chances of you winning also increases given that you have an AI opinion. It's like your bet is backed by a compilation of data, Which AI is most likely doing since it rely on the data you are feeding it. Knowing that you have a great chance of winning also makes your inner self kicks a strong sense of confidence that can be undeniably make you bet more than what you are planning to do.
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It would be a suicide if you do really end up on having this kind of mindset and belief on mind about getting some loan and going all in just because you do really believe on AI winning rate?
For some testing then it wont really be that bad but it would really be jut good for proving out your curiosity but if you do rely on it then it would be an another story.
Dont make yourself believe that these things does work because if it does then all of us would really be that filthy rich and make our all bets to be profitable.
So it doesnt really work, it is really just people becomes too desperate on trying out new things.

I think there might be a possibility of getting better odds than some companies that are not using AI to calculate their odds.

But in the end it's a small amount of probability to get it right, so I wouldn't put too much money on it.

Maybe for things that are rare, and the AI is saying it will happen, maybe for those it's worth using it.
We don't really know how big the chance is to get a win from using AI for gambling. But if the chances of winning are getting bigger, the news will surely spread to many gamblers so that many gamblers will try it to see the results. And if it works for some people, there will be many more who will try it and most of them will use more money to gamble. I can't imagine what if AI technology is applied to gambling and a question arises: whether casinos can survive the many people who can win from many games.

We're all curious about what AI can do if the data it has is updated every now and then. You wouldn't think for 1 sec not to try asking the AI if your analysis of a sports match is close to its analysis. It gives you a second confirmation that your confidence to bet increases.

Of course, if AI can do it, it's a breakthrough. And if I think of betting just $25 and then the AI says my prediction is close to its prediction, I might just bet $50.
True, our self-confidence will increase, especially if we have tried how valid AI can obtain the data. And this will increase our confidence in betting with big money because we believe the data from AI will be able to help us win every match we place as a bet. If that's the case, match analysts or tipsters might feel unrivaled because one technology can provide valid data for many matches at once. Hence, they need to improve their ability to analyze even more matches.

It is only natural that we will increase the number of bets if we know that data from AI can say that our chances of winning are greater. This is where they cannot stop their greed Grin

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Just two words about this subject (AI) that became more talked about since the hype about Chatgpt. Well the bot isn't bad but far from being perfect and requires human intervention to fix the text but can help people getting ideas and so on.
For sports, we always hear about AI selecting the winner for big competitions which ends up being eliminated then select another winner Roll Eyes
Data has nothing to do with real events but can give an overall idea about it. For example, with covid-19, we saw half of the team being absent and the result was the opposite..
An AI will have limitations as everything will depend on the data which is given to the model and how it is processed by the AI.

However if I were to guess if it is possible for an AI to generate more precise predictions than a human I would say this is possible, we need to remember that to become a profitable sport bettor you do not need to win every single bet, you only need to pick the bets with the lowest house edge, pick the best possible odds and manage your money responsibly, and an AI could in theory do all of this.

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January 23, 2023, 09:36:22 AM
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I have not tried it, and probably because it's the first time I'm reading about it 🤣, I have never thought that AI can be used to make betting decisions. Dumb me😝, to not even have thought of it, knowing that artificial intelligence is greatly appreciated in some countries. Last year, I read an article about how some AI is frequently employed in the health care department. The information confirms that they are effective in carrying out their activity.

For the fact that I have not tried AI to make my betting decision, I would love to if I had the chance. Depending on the winning results of the AI bet and the wins of my personal decision, that would determine which is better and the one to be used most often. betting has never be so accurate in prediction according to the gamblers knowledge, I am just wondering how accurate it can be with AI's decision.

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