[POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes

[ChiBitCTy]

I believe that AI can help you to predict outcomes but we should remember that in online gambling it is also run by algorithm, i think the accuracy of the AI is not that high in terms of this, and casinos might changing their algorithm now or using another strategy so the result will not be same 100% to  this predictions of the AI. We can also say that with the use of AI we can see some patterns but these patterns cannot be our assurance.

To be honest, I've never tried using Al, so I can't speculate much about how artificial intelligence technology can be used as a reference for predicting the outcome of a match. as we know, artificial intelligence technology can actually help us solve complex problems, including making our work easier.

However, I really doubt if AI can be applied to predict a sports match, let alone to be a reference for gamblers. because IMO, sports are more complex, cannot be predicted accurately, there are no exact calculations like an algorithm. in fact we can only guess, even after a series of analyses. maybe, if AI is used to find all the latest information related to sports. I'm sure it's very helpful.

I first off don't believe legitimate true AI really even exists, as there are truly no self learning programs yet (like you see in the movie Her or iRobot), that being said it can definetly help you make a decsion if you're stuck between which teams to pick, programs can run all sorts of numbers to try and help predict the outcome.  This is basically no different than Saber Metrics, which is highly used in Major League baseball, so much so it's in fact changed the game. Coaches and teams rely on this data to do all sorts of stuff these days. It doesn't guarantee anything, but it helps...the movie Money Ball explains how this started.

[nullama]

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I first off don't believe legitimate true AI really even exists, as there are truly no self learning programs yet (like you see in the movie Her or iRobot), that being said it can definetly help you make a decsion if you're stuck between which teams to pick, programs can run all sorts of numbers to try and help predict the outcome.  This is basically no different than Saber Metrics, which is highly used in Major League baseball, so much so it's in fact changed the game. Coaches and teams rely on this data to do all sorts of stuff these days. It doesn't guarantee anything, but it helps...the movie Money Ball explains how this started.

Yes, it's true.

The current AI is not a general artificial intelligence. It's simply a great conversation generator based on some training data.

This means that you should take any inputs you get from chatGPT (or similar) with caution, as many of the things it says are not even factual.

The problem is that it looks and sounds as if the thing actually knows what it's talking about, because it sounds authoritative, and mixed with actual facts.

Lots of fake news will be generated with this.

[LogitechMouse]

Sorry if I'm a bit curious about this, but I just want to ask a question.

Did anybody here really tried to use AI (like ChatGPT, or any other) to predict the outcomes of certain sport? Is anybody here who are relying on AI predictions on sports? Like in Basketball, or Football or even in Boxing. A follow-up question. If yes, what is the accuracy of it? How many of those prediction are right?

My apologies about my curiosity, but I just want to know since I'm also involved into gambling (just recently).

[nullama]

Sorry if I'm a bit curious about this, but I just want to ask a question.

Did anybody here really tried to use AI (like ChatGPT, or any other) to predict the outcomes of certain sport? Is anybody here who are relying on AI predictions on sports? Like in Basketball, or Football or even in Boxing. A follow-up question. If yes, what is the accuracy of it? How many of those prediction are right?

My apologies about my curiosity, but I just want to know since I'm also involved into gambling (just recently).

Hard to reply to this because you'll only get data points that in isolation won't provide any statistical significance to see if AI actually helps or not.

But that's how the human mind works, we are hooked to stories.

If someone tells you a story about how well the AI predicted one scenario, you'll believe it works great.

If someone tells you a story about how bad the AI predicted one scenario, you'll believe it doesn't work at all.

The thing is that our minds are not great to deal natively with statistics. We need math for that.

[LUCKMCFLY]

According to what I have seen of Chat, GPT cannot predict events, its programming indicates it, however the company that is developing it is creating a new version, I imagine that it is improved and that it has more options, what intrigues me is if You can make predictions, if this is the case it would cause people to go crazy, because games of chance and sports will be something that will give them a lot of use, for the good of many things, I think that you will not be able to make predictions,

This AI will obviously develop a prediction feature in the future since it’s natural language processor. It can be feed by a lot of data from the sports event and it can give a prediction based on the team stats. There’s no guarantee it will give you an accurate prediction but you can assure that it’s prediction is based on the statistics which bookmaker is using to provide odds on the sportsbook. This AI prediction is the best to spot error odds given by bookmaker since AI will never missed the analysis of data feed on it unlike bookmaker that doing the odds analysis based on the programmer setup.

but in the same way everything is a beta version, if they are working on this new update I think they will be able to do it until 2022, since it has information until 2021.

I believe you messed up on the year here bro. It’s already 2023. I believe only the accuracy is what being upgrade on the current version since the AI works properly with the basic Q&A when it was feed by data. I think it’s ability to browse the web to search for data and determine what’s fact and hoax is the main challenge for the developers on this current version.

Nevertheless, ChatGPT will not do magic for sportbook industry since it will just give the same pick which bookmaker marked as high potential winner. Also I’m sure sportsbook industry will be close incase an AI can really predict an accurate outcome since casino will not gonna let players bankrupt them.

I know, you have said it, only that the information that ChatGPT handles for now is until 2021, it is updated, but with respect to its information it is up to that year, it would be good if it could have information until 2023, I think that OpenIA does not It has been set like this, in fact for some countries the chatgpt is completely blocked and there is no way to enter, you just have to be in a country that is not prohibited and enter with a phone number from that country, if you have a digital number the Chatgpt recognizes it and does not let you enter or register, I have a friend in Spain who is already offering a 45usd plan from ChatGPT for having ChatGPT professional version, and I think he can't enter now, I don't know if it's because of something else or because of the number of users there are.

I don't know if in other countries it is still in beta mode or they are already demanding payment, but I think that since the gpt has not integrated many things, it may be that it lacks updates from now on, because according to the articles that I have read, they have it. prohibited in some schools in Spain, which means that children use it to do their homework.And if that is so, how can teachers do with this advanced tool? Personally, I still do not trust AI detectors because they are in the Beta phase, and I have noticed that some people in their way of writing are similar to AI, that generates controversy, because AI imitates even thoughts very well a human being when he is very logical and knows a lot about a subject.

[Fredomago]

We also evaluate the historical data when making predictions about the results of the matches. If we manage to give the right data to the AI technology, I think we can get the best predictions about the match results. Of course, we will not always get the best results from him, but I think we can get close to the best results. I see such developments as positive developments.

I believe that AI can help you to predict outcomes but we should remember that in online gambling it is also run by algorithm, i think the accuracy of the AI is not that high in terms of this, and casinos might changing their algorithm now or using another strategy so the result will not be same 100% to  this predictions of the AI. We can also say that with the use of AI we can see some patterns but these patterns cannot be our assurance.

Can help in providing details about players and teams, it will give percentages or chances of winning, but we all know that in gambling risk always present, even AI gives you 99.9% of chance to win that .1 percentage can still messed up with you. Though in someway, this information can add up while trying to sort your advantages and your potentials.

Gambling with AIs might help as long as you equipped yourself with right knowledge about the game that you are picking to bet.

[xSkylarx]

Sorry if I'm a bit curious about this, but I just want to ask a question.

Did anybody here really tried to use AI (like ChatGPT, or any other) to predict the outcomes of certain sport? Is anybody here who are relying on AI predictions on sports? Like in Basketball, or Football or even in Boxing. A follow-up question. If yes, what is the accuracy of it? How many of those prediction are right?

My apologies about my curiosity, but I just want to know since I'm also involved into gambling (just recently).

I tried asking ChatGPT on this, but it won't answer as it is just a model, but you can analyze things like Garcia's previous wins, score boards, and anything else. It won't really tell your prediction, but you can gather data and compare both. meaning it is just giving you information, and you are the one who decides which to bet on or your prediction. But if this were utilized or optimized for gambling, then for sure it would be helpful, but for now, this kind of information is being censored by them.

[Lida93]

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

There's a lot of other factors to prediction that human intelligence will consider in addition to statistics available at his reach before making his prediction on the outcome of a game especially when betting on football unlike AI that would grant prediction based on advantageous stats from both team which has proven countless times that the team with the best stats doesn't always win. No matter how develop and improved the AI is it can't be compared to human intelligence so am not sure am going to give room for AI to be doing predictions for me in my gambling. Maybe other areas but definitely not depending on it in gambling.

[ethereumhunter]

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

There's a lot of other factors to prediction that human intelligence will consider in addition to statistics available at his reach before making his prediction on the outcome of a game especially when betting on football unlike AI that would grant prediction based on advantageous stats from both team which has proven countless times that the team with the best stats doesn't always win. No matter how develop and improved the AI is it can't be compared to human intelligence so am not sure am going to give room for AI to be doing predictions for me in my gambling. Maybe other areas but definitely not depending on it in gambling.

Maybe it won't happen now or in the next few years but if there is a more advanced technology than now that makes AI work more optimally than before, maybe it can make people want to try it to see how AI can help them win. in gambling. Currently, AI technology is still developing to achieve even better progress so that people can actually use it properly. We cannot imagine how this AI will develop in the future because it still requires better technology than now. Apart from that, ChatGPT is also not functioning optimally so we still have to wait a while.

[SquallLeonhart]

The current AI is not a general artificial intelligence. It's simply a great conversation generator based on some training data.

This means that you should take any inputs you get from chatGPT (or similar) with caution, as many of the things it says are not even factual.

The problem is that it looks and sounds as if the thing actually knows what it's talking about, because it sounds authoritative, and mixed with actual facts.

Lots of fake news will be generated with this.

I think it doesn't have "fake" news right now because it is not open to public yet, they deal with it themselves and put just information on it. But, if you actually start giving it away and plenty of people make their own version, you are going to end up finding stuff that would make it very much a big problem.

Hopefully people will realize that not all AI's are right, if we end up thinking what the AI is saying as the truth, then we are going to end up with a ton of problems as well, and going to cause a ton of trouble. I am not saying there won't be anyone, because knowing how stupid people can be, some will think it is 100% factual, which is sad.

[nullama]

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I think it doesn't have "fake" news right now because it is not open to public yet, they deal with it themselves and put just information on it. But, if you actually start giving it away and plenty of people make their own version, you are going to end up finding stuff that would make it very much a big problem.

Hopefully people will realize that not all AI's are right, if we end up thinking what the AI is saying as the truth, then we are going to end up with a ton of problems as well, and going to cause a ton of trouble. I am not saying there won't be anyone, because knowing how stupid people can be, some will think it is 100% factual, which is sad.

If you mean ChatGPT, then anyone can get access to it for free, at https://chat.openai.com

It's been a bit saturated lately, so you might need to get a pro subscription, but it's there, available for anyone to try it out.

[Lanatsa]

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I think it doesn't have "fake" news right now because it is not open to public yet, they deal with it themselves and put just information on it. But, if you actually start giving it away and plenty of people make their own version, you are going to end up finding stuff that would make it very much a big problem.

Hopefully people will realize that not all AI's are right, if we end up thinking what the AI is saying as the truth, then we are going to end up with a ton of problems as well, and going to cause a ton of trouble. I am not saying there won't be anyone, because knowing how stupid people can be, some will think it is 100% factual, which is sad.

If you mean ChatGPT, then anyone can get access to it for free, at https://chat.openai.com

It's been a bit saturated lately, so you might need to get a pro subscription, but it's there, available for anyone to try it out.

So they do have a pro subscription? I wasnt aware of that, if ever this was true then its not really that shocking on trying out to monetize on whats something being on the current hype. 

People would surely be testing it out whether on gambling betting or into trades which i had read up recently which it is really that absurd on making yourself that believing into something
which cant really be that effective.

Yes, AI could have that instant search results but its not something that you could ask out if we do speak about events which are still about to happen or simply
talking about the future.It cant just be possible.

[alegotardo]

Yes, it's true.

The current AI is not a general artificial intelligence. It's simply a great conversation generator based on some training data.

This means that you should take any inputs you get from chatGPT (or similar) with caution, as many of the things it says are not even factual.

The problem is that it looks and sounds as if the thing actually knows what it's talking about, because it sounds authoritative, and mixed with actual facts.

Lots of fake news will be generated with this.

ChatGPT is obviously not a good tool to use as a betting tool, firstly because its information base was discontinued in 2021, so it cannot tell you about the results of the championships that are currently taking place.
Second, because chatGPT was not made for this purpose. As you said yourself, it was created with the intention of talking to people and learning to have a fluent language.

However, I have no doubt that an artificial intelligence programmed to help in sports betting could have hits well above average if it were used for this purpose.
Leaving emotions aside, working only with numbers, statistics and probabilities would greatly increase the chances of getting a result right.

I'm sure many betting sites are on a quest for such a tool to maximize house winnings, and players as well.

[wxa7115]

Yes, it's true.

The current AI is not a general artificial intelligence. It's simply a great conversation generator based on some training data.

This means that you should take any inputs you get from chatGPT (or similar) with caution, as many of the things it says are not even factual.

The problem is that it looks and sounds as if the thing actually knows what it's talking about, because it sounds authoritative, and mixed with actual facts.

Lots of fake news will be generated with this.

ChatGPT is obviously not a good tool to use as a betting tool, firstly because its information base was discontinued in 2021, so it cannot tell you about the results of the championships that are currently taking place.
Second, because chatGPT was not made for this purpose. As you said yourself, it was created with the intention of talking to people and learning to have a fluent language.

However, I have no doubt that an artificial intelligence programmed to help in sports betting could have hits well above average if it were used for this purpose.
Leaving emotions aside, working only with numbers, statistics and probabilities would greatly increase the chances of getting a result right.

I'm sure many betting sites are on a quest for such a tool to maximize house winnings, and players as well.

Without a doubt that is coming, however the accuracy of an AI is determined by the quality of the information that it receives and in that respect the casinos have a decisive advantage over the players.

So I think it will come the time in which it will be incredibly difficult for sport bettors to find attractive odds, and only those which concentrate on arbitrage betting are going to have any chance to make profits at all as AI gets better over the years.

[AicecreaME]

Without a doubt that is coming, however the accuracy of an AI is determined by the quality of the information that it receives and in that respect the casinos have a decisive advantage over the players.

So I think it will come the time in which it will be incredibly difficult for sport bettors to find attractive odds, and only those which concentrate on arbitrage betting are going to have any chance to make profits at all as AI gets better over the years.

Indeed. AIs are only dependent on the information it has at its disposal. The timeliness and relevance of the information it receives is important to the whole decision making and its prediction of the outcome. If for instance, the information and AI have isn't updated or is lacking, there's a high chance that you'll lose your bet dependent on the AI result. This is why if ever you really plan to use one in the future, you have to verify and still double check.

Using AI could mean better percentage of winning to some, but let's admit it that it doesn't guarantee a win so you should still learn how to decipher and read the situation. AI can be helpful to influence our decision making, but do not solely rely on it. You still have to at least possess some knowledge about what you are betting for, in order for you to have higher chance in winning.

[traderethereum]

Without a doubt that is coming, however the accuracy of an AI is determined by the quality of the information that it receives and in that respect the casinos have a decisive advantage over the players.

So I think it will come the time in which it will be incredibly difficult for sport bettors to find attractive odds, and only those which concentrate on arbitrage betting are going to have any chance to make profits at all as AI gets better over the years.

Indeed. AIs are only dependent on the information it has at its disposal. The timeliness and relevance of the information it receives is important to the whole decision making and its prediction of the outcome. If for instance, the information and AI have isn't updated or is lacking, there's a high chance that you'll lose your bet dependent on the AI result. This is why if ever you really plan to use one in the future, you have to verify and still double check.

Using AI could mean better percentage of winning to some, but let's admit it that it doesn't guarantee a win so you should still learn how to decipher and read the situation. AI can be helpful to influence our decision making, but do not solely rely on it. You still have to at least possess some knowledge about what you are betting for, in order for you to have higher chance in winning.

For now, AI has not been able to get accurate information from various sources and even if AI can get it, AI still has to be able to find further clues as to whether the information is real or a hoax.
This is why AI technology is still being developed so that it can filter the information that users really need.
Just imagine if AI technology was currently used to find information about betting on a sport and it turned out that the information could not be accounted for and could lead us to choose the wrong team.
And it's true, besides using AI technology that has been perfected, we also have to analyze before making decisions so that we don't just depend on AI in making decisions.

[LogitechMouse]

Sorry if I'm a bit curious about this, but I just want to ask a question.

Did anybody here really tried to use AI (like ChatGPT, or any other) to predict the outcomes of certain sport? Is anybody here who are relying on AI predictions on sports? Like in Basketball, or Football or even in Boxing. A follow-up question. If yes, what is the accuracy of it? How many of those prediction are right?

My apologies about my curiosity, but I just want to know since I'm also involved into gambling (just recently).

I tried asking ChatGPT on this, but it won't answer as it is just a model, but you can analyze things like Garcia's previous wins, score boards, and anything else. It won't really tell your prediction, but you can gather data and compare both. meaning it is just giving you information, and you are the one who decides which to bet on or your prediction. But if this were utilized or optimized for gambling, then for sure it would be helpful, but for now, this kind of information is being censored by them.

In short, ChatGPT only gives information that is also searchable in the internet right? It works like an aggregator of data that will help the gambler choose, eh?

If that's the case then it's still a big help for the bettors, but you can't rely on the bot as to which one you will predict. Stats don't like and numbers can really help a gambler into which team or player will he put his bet with. I mean I'm using statistics when I'm betting on basketball (even though I'm losing consecutive times ).

Overall, maybe we can conclude that ChatGPT can't really make predictions to us gamblers right? Or there is somebody who will try and make ChatGPT predict on different sports.

[Fredomago]

Without a doubt that is coming, however the accuracy of an AI is determined by the quality of the information that it receives and in that respect the casinos have a decisive advantage over the players.

So I think it will come the time in which it will be incredibly difficult for sport bettors to find attractive odds, and only those which concentrate on arbitrage betting are going to have any chance to make profits at all as AI gets better over the years.

Indeed. AIs are only dependent on the information it has at its disposal. The timeliness and relevance of the information it receives is important to the whole decision making and its prediction of the outcome. If for instance, the information and AI have isn't updated or is lacking, there's a high chance that you'll lose your bet dependent on the AI result. This is why if ever you really plan to use one in the future, you have to verify and still double check.

Using AI could mean better percentage of winning to some, but let's admit it that it doesn't guarantee a win so you should still learn how to decipher and read the situation. AI can be helpful to influence our decision making, but do not solely rely on it. You still have to at least possess some knowledge about what you are betting for, in order for you to have higher chance in winning.

For now, AI has not been able to get accurate information from various sources and even if AI can get it, AI still has to be able to find further clues as to whether the information is real or a hoax.
This is why AI technology is still being developed so that it can filter the information that users really need.
Just imagine if AI technology was currently used to find information about betting on a sport and it turned out that the information could not be accounted for and could lead us to choose the wrong team.
And it's true, besides using AI technology that has been perfected, we also have to analyze before making decisions so that we don't just depend on AI in making decisions.

Yup, still the need of human knowledge. Even AI provides good information about the possibilities of whatever outcome the bet can be, it's not accurate and there's no assurance that you'll be able to win each time you place your bets. I see the good point of using it to gather information and make some own assessment whether to follow what's the data is telling you or try to go the different side and risk for some luck to make a much better odds.

You always have that options if you feel that there's some mess that may happen with the game that you pick then picking the other side or playing against the favorite is something that AI will not recommend if basing to the data analysis that it gathered from the sources of information you select.

[RealMalatesta]

AIs are only dependent on the information it has at its disposal. The timeliness and relevance of the information it receives is important to the whole decision making and its prediction of the outcome. If for instance, the information and AI have isn't updated or is lacking, there's a high chance that you'll lose your bet dependent on the AI result. This is why if ever you really plan to use one in the future, you have to verify and still double check.

Using AI could mean better percentage of winning to some, but let's admit it that it doesn't guarantee a win so you should still learn how to decipher and read the situation. AI can be helpful to influence our decision making, but do not solely rely on it. You still have to at least possess some knowledge about what you are betting for, in order for you to have higher chance in winning.

This is why it is not really an intelligence and it's machine learning, which has been talked about a million times so far, I know, and it's definitely a sad situation that we do not have any AI technology at all, I would love to see one before I die, something that can think by itself and not need you to provide data to have information, it can think and come to its own conclusions and all, that's AI, this is just machine learning and nothing more.

But I agree that something regarding trading, investing, gambling, and many other things will happen in the future, even if it's machine learning, it will happen and it will be a lot of help to people who are having hard time doing it themselves.

[carlfebz2]

AIs are only dependent on the information it has at its disposal. The timeliness and relevance of the information it receives is important to the whole decision making and its prediction of the outcome. If for instance, the information and AI have isn't updated or is lacking, there's a high chance that you'll lose your bet dependent on the AI result. This is why if ever you really plan to use one in the future, you have to verify and still double check.

Using AI could mean better percentage of winning to some, but let's admit it that it doesn't guarantee a win so you should still learn how to decipher and read the situation. AI can be helpful to influence our decision making, but do not solely rely on it. You still have to at least possess some knowledge about what you are betting for, in order for you to have higher chance in winning.

This is why it is not really an intelligence and it's machine learning, which has been talked about a million times so far, I know, and it's definitely a sad situation that we do not have any AI technology at all, I would love to see one before I die, something that can think by itself and not need you to provide data to have information, it can think and come to its own conclusions and all, that's AI, this is just machine learning and nothing more.

But I agree that something regarding trading, investing, gambling, and many other things will happen in the future, even if it's machine learning, it will happen and it will be a lot of help to people who are having hard time doing it themselves.

So where talking about that Terminator-like kind of approach if we do speak about AI? It cant be possible if it does happen then we're doomed.Its better to have this way but i agree into the point that its really

been called the other way which same as you said that its machine learning since its been fed up by information on huge scale based and continous to be added up into its library which means that
it could be all knowing as the time passes by but still it cant really make out such decision on its own without being that told or whatever it do relates on independent decisions or whatsoever.

Using it up on things which are needing to attach into speculative part? Then it wont really be that effective.