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February 08, 2023, 05:10:49 PM
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AI will be able to build models that far surpasses any model that a human can build.

Maybe, but the main issue that I see is that AI can create false facts that appear quite legit to the casual reader.

Then, something false gets posted in say wikipedia, and then a big newspaper picks that up, etc. You end up without being able to trust anyone.
AFAIK it is not giving any false facts, its just a program that collect information from the multiple sources and try to come up with better one, ofcourse it may happened in the past but the same won't repeat everytime so its impossible to predict the future outcomes with 100% accuracy.









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February 08, 2023, 05:15:23 PM
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AI will be able to build models that far surpasses any model that a human can build.

Maybe, but the main issue that I see is that AI can create false facts that appear quite legit to the casual reader.

Then, something false gets posted in say wikipedia, and then a big newspaper picks that up, etc. You end up without being able to trust anyone.
AFAIK it is not giving any false facts, its just a program that collect information from the multiple sources and try to come up with better one, ofcourse it may happened in the past but the same won't repeat everytime so its impossible to predict the future outcomes with 100% accuracy.

I don't think AI can predict the sports perfectly. By the way, is there any data available to check if AI really helping in this prediction thing ?

I know everyone will have their point of view on this but if we have some data to back our opinions, it will help us reach the conclusion. The Poll make us know about the majority of the people's understanding but may not predict the real reality.

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February 08, 2023, 05:25:57 PM
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AI will be able to build models that far surpasses any model that a human can build.

Maybe, but the main issue that I see is that AI can create false facts that appear quite legit to the casual reader.

Then, something false gets posted in say wikipedia, and then a big newspaper picks that up, etc. You end up without being able to trust anyone.
AFAIK it is not giving any false facts, its just a program that collect information from the multiple sources and try to come up with better one, ofcourse it may happened in the past but the same won't repeat everytime so its impossible to predict the future outcomes with 100% accuracy.

I don't think AI can predict the sports perfectly. By the way, is there any data available to check if AI really helping in this prediction thing ?

I know everyone will have their point of view on this but if we have some data to back our opinions, it will help us reach the conclusion. The Poll make us know about the majority of the people's understanding but may not predict the real reality.
AIs can't predict the future, therefore they can't come with accurate results. What AIs can do is the same calculations sportsbooks do to balance the odds of a bet, that is, to find the favorite and the underdog of a match.

If you follow AIs, you are always going to bet on the favorite, because that is the most logical scenario and AIs totally work based on logics.

However, favorite teams or athletes can also lose, so it's not safe to follow such AIs on their predictions.

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February 08, 2023, 06:02:57 PM
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AI will be able to build models that far surpasses any model that a human can build.

Maybe, but the main issue that I see is that AI can create false facts that appear quite legit to the casual reader.

Then, something false gets posted in say wikipedia, and then a big newspaper picks that up, etc. You end up without being able to trust anyone.
AFAIK it is not giving any false facts, its just a program that collect information from the multiple sources and try to come up with better one, ofcourse it may happened in the past but the same won't repeat everytime so its impossible to predict the future outcomes with 100% accuracy.

I don't think AI can predict the sports perfectly. By the way, is there any data available to check if AI really helping in this prediction thing ?

I know everyone will have their point of view on this but if we have some data to back our opinions, it will help us reach the conclusion. The Poll make us know about the majority of the people's understanding but may not predict the real reality.

I agree with you, there's no tangible and a convincing evidence that using AI to gamble is as accurate as expected or can be reliable as ever thought, remember it was created by some expert which had already run a program on the way it should operate a d i believe it wouldn't be vested on one side than the other which means you can't expect it to work against the casinos and in favour of the gambling on a steady and continuous process, it's reliability is not perfectly hundred percent accurate and many would not prefer it than using their own intellect to gamble in most cases.

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February 08, 2023, 08:41:52 PM
 #365

AI will be able to build models that far surpasses any model that a human can build.

Maybe, but the main issue that I see is that AI can create false facts that appear quite legit to the casual reader.

Then, something false gets posted in say wikipedia, and then a big newspaper picks that up, etc. You end up without being able to trust anyone.
AFAIK it is not giving any false facts, its just a program that collect information from the multiple sources and try to come up with better one, ofcourse it may happened in the past but the same won't repeat everytime so its impossible to predict the future outcomes with 100% accuracy.

I don't think AI can predict the sports perfectly. By the way, is there any data available to check if AI really helping in this prediction thing ?

I know everyone will have their point of view on this but if we have some data to back our opinions, it will help us reach the conclusion. The Poll make us know about the majority of the people's understanding but may not predict the real reality.

I agree with you, there's no tangible and a convincing evidence that using AI to gamble is as accurate as expected or can be reliable as ever thought, remember it was created by some expert which had already run a program on the way it should operate a d i believe it wouldn't be vested on one side than the other which means you can't expect it to work against the casinos and in favour of the gambling on a steady and continuous process, it's reliability is not perfectly hundred percent accurate and many would not prefer it than using their own intellect to gamble in most cases.
Even if it was effective then we do really think that gambling companies or owners wouldn't be finding a way on getting rid of this AI if ever it was really that effective? This isnt really that something
realistic i would say on which there's no way an AI could be able to predict precisely on what are the things that could happen in the future or something that deals on being speculative.
Even if it do knows when it comes to stats or something but we do know that it wont really be that accurate to mind off with those numbers.
Its never been that ideal or suggestable on doing so.

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February 08, 2023, 08:45:51 PM
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I don't think AI can predict the sports perfectly. By the way, is there any data available to check if AI really helping in this prediction thing ?

I know everyone will have their point of view on this but if we have some data to back our opinions, it will help us reach the conclusion. The Poll make us know about the majority of the people's understanding but may not predict the real reality.

That is for sure. artificial intelligence technology, it is impossible to predict the outcome of a match precisely and accurately. maybe, if only to seek information from the two teams that will compete. we can use AI as a tool, or practical and easy reference. however, not to predict the outcome of a match. why, the fact is that in a match the team that is superior doesn't always win every match. and don't we already have a lot of experience, related to a match result.

To be honest, I never even tried Al. so I don't know how Al works, let alone a prediction. but certainly, in sports matches, especially football. there is no such thing as an absolute prediction, it all depends on how the two teams play the match. related to a result, it is the consistent team that can come out victorious regardless of the depth of the players of the competing team. the rest, let luck decide.

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February 09, 2023, 12:55:18 AM
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That is for sure. artificial intelligence technology, it is impossible to predict the outcome of a match precisely and accurately. maybe, if only to seek information from the two teams that will compete. we can use AI as a tool, or practical and easy reference. however, not to predict the outcome of a match. why, the fact is that in a match the team that is superior doesn't always win every match. and don't we already have a lot of experience, related to a match result.

To be honest, I never even tried Al. so I don't know how Al works, let alone a prediction. but certainly, in sports matches, especially football. there is no such thing as an absolute prediction, it all depends on how the two teams play the match. related to a result, it is the consistent team that can come out victorious regardless of the depth of the players of the competing team. the rest, let luck decide.

That is true, in the sense that the actual match outcome is going to be random.

But, still there is some probabilities involved.

Let's say that we're going to bet in a football match between Brazil and San Marino.

You can see that it's the best against the worst: https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/men

Of course the odds are going to be in favor of Brazil, but there's always a tiny chance that they end up tied or Brazil makes an own goal or whatever.

Those kind of odds can be easily calculated by an AI, just like a human could do.

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I agree with you, there's no tangible and a convincing evidence that using AI to gamble is as accurate as expected or can be reliable as ever thought, remember it was created by some expert which had already run a program on the way it should operate a d i believe it wouldn't be vested on one side than the other which means you can't expect it to work against the casinos and in favour of the gambling on a steady and continuous process, it's reliability is not perfectly hundred percent accurate and many would not prefer it than using their own intellect to gamble in most cases.
Maybe there is no conclusive proof because AI technology is still in development and we also don't know what kind of AI will be launched later. But of course, if AI can provide benefits that can provide accurate data, AI can help gamblers choose a team that has the potential to win as a bet.

Indeed, some don't like AI and some like AI and that's only natural. But if AI can help human life, not only in terms of gambling but in almost everything, many people will like it because AI will assist their lives.

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February 09, 2023, 05:49:24 AM
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I agree with you, there's no tangible and a convincing evidence that using AI to gamble is as accurate as expected or can be reliable as ever thought, remember it was created by some expert which had already run a program on the way it should operate a d i believe it wouldn't be vested on one side than the other which means you can't expect it to work against the casinos and in favour of the gambling on a steady and continuous process, it's reliability is not perfectly hundred percent accurate and many would not prefer it than using their own intellect to gamble in most cases.
Maybe there is no conclusive proof because AI technology is still in development and we also don't know what kind of AI will be launched later. But of course, if AI can provide benefits that can provide accurate data, AI can help gamblers choose a team that has the potential to win as a bet.

Indeed, some don't like AI and some like AI and that's only natural. But if AI can help human life, not only in terms of gambling but in almost everything, many people will like it because AI will assist their lives.
On this point, I couldn't be more in agreement with you. In recent years, artificial intelligence has made tremendous strides, and the range of possible uses for this technology is almost infinite. AI has been having a significant influence on our lives in a variety of ways, including the automation of repetitive jobs, the provision of important insights, and the analysis of data. And the gambling business is not an exception to this rule.

For instance, I've heard of AI systems that do data analysis and make quite accurate predictions on the results of sports matches. Many gamblers, especially those who want to place educated bets, will find this to be a game-changer. Imagine being able to improve the judgments you make, enhance the amount you win, and avoid making expensive blunders all due to artificial intelligence.

Having said that, I am aware that there are certain individuals who have reservations about AI. It's possible that some people may think that it ruins the enjoyment of the game or that it's just not fair. If, however, we approach artificial intelligence with an open mind, I think that we will be able to realize the numerous advantages that it offers. After all, AI is merely a tool, and it's up to us to choose how we put it to work.

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The reason why it is called Artificial Intelligence is because its not real. It's a man made technology.
So if we are using a man made technology for our bets/trading then we are equally capable of making those bets.
Its just that AI will make it easier for us to do all the research and analysis and I guess if used in a right way then we can get the benefits out of it.
That being said we can use AI but we need to be cautious while using it and make sure we know what we are doing.

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February 09, 2023, 02:01:17 PM
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The reason why it is called Artificial Intelligence is because its not real. It's a man made technology.
So if we are using a man made technology for our bets/trading then we are equally capable of making those bets.
Its just that AI will make it easier for us to do all the research and analysis and I guess if used in a right way then we can get the benefits out of it.
That being said we can use AI but we need to be cautious while using it and make sure we know what we are doing.

It is nothing more than making a research on information that many people like us feed to search engines and AI it is just collecting it to represent to us the choices,the analysis,the news and predictions from many site at once.Nothing that avid gamblers like us cannot do ourselves,I always tend to read a lot of tipping pages before deciding on which event to bet on and I also like seeing statistics from these websites,something that AI so far cannot really do without further fine-tuning by us,human beings so as of yet it cannot help us that much but if they continue to improve it maybe in the future we can see a revolution in sport betting.

In fact the other technology ML-Machine Learning can help us by making some calculations based on the info to present us statistically and with proven probability which option is better to bet,that would be awesome.

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February 09, 2023, 02:04:09 PM
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I agree with you, there's no tangible and a convincing evidence that using AI to gamble is as accurate as expected or can be reliable as ever thought, remember it was created by some expert which had already run a program on the way it should operate a d i believe it wouldn't be vested on one side than the other which means you can't expect it to work against the casinos and in favour of the gambling on a steady and continuous process, it's reliability is not perfectly hundred percent accurate and many would not prefer it than using their own intellect to gamble in most cases.
Maybe there is no conclusive proof because AI technology is still in development and we also don't know what kind of AI will be launched later. But of course, if AI can provide benefits that can provide accurate data, AI can help gamblers choose a team that has the potential to win as a bet.

Indeed, some don't like AI and some like AI and that's only natural. But if AI can help human life, not only in terms of gambling but in almost everything, many people will like it because AI will assist their lives.
On this point, I couldn't be more in agreement with you. In recent years, artificial intelligence has made tremendous strides, and the range of possible uses for this technology is almost infinite. AI has been having a significant influence on our lives in a variety of ways, including the automation of repetitive jobs, the provision of important insights, and the analysis of data. And the gambling business is not an exception to this rule.

For instance, I've heard of AI systems that do data analysis and make quite accurate predictions on the results of sports matches. Many gamblers, especially those who want to place educated bets, will find this to be a game-changer. Imagine being able to improve the judgments you make, enhance the amount you win, and avoid making expensive blunders all due to artificial intelligence.

Having said that, I am aware that there are certain individuals who have reservations about AI. It's possible that some people may think that it ruins the enjoyment of the game or that it's just not fair. If, however, we approach artificial intelligence with an open mind, I think that we will be able to realize the numerous advantages that it offers. After all, AI is merely a tool, and it's up to us to choose how we put it to work.
It's normal for someone to doubt the ability of AI because they probably haven't seen how AI works. But if they had seen it, they would have been amazed by AI's capabilities. And most people tend to dislike it the first time they know it but after knowing it, they slowly accept it and will even like it right away. Because, after all, what they do can be made easier with the help of AI. Maybe we can't imagine it right now, but just wait until the technology reaches its peak and can really help our daily activities.

AI is just a tool, and we will choose to use it or continue using traditional methods. Meanwhile, the purpose of the presence of AI is to help humans carry out their daily activities, as we have seen in the movies. And if there is AI that can accurately collect data for gambling, I think there will be gamblers who use it and may depend on AI to analyze a match.

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February 10, 2023, 02:57:00 AM
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AI will be able to build models that far surpasses any model that a human can build.

Maybe, but the main issue that I see is that AI can create false facts that appear quite legit to the casual reader.

Then, something false gets posted in say wikipedia, and then a big newspaper picks that up, etc. You end up without being able to trust anyone.
AFAIK it is not giving any false facts, its just a program that collect information from the multiple sources and try to come up with better one, ofcourse it may happened in the past but the same won't repeat everytime so its impossible to predict the future outcomes with 100% accuracy.

I don't think AI can predict the sports perfectly. By the way, is there any data available to check if AI really helping in this prediction thing ?

I know everyone will have their point of view on this but if we have some data to back our opinions, it will help us reach the conclusion. The Poll make us know about the majority of the people's understanding but may not predict the real reality.
AIs can't predict the future, therefore they can't come with accurate results. What AIs can do is the same calculations sportsbooks do to balance the odds of a bet, that is, to find the favorite and the underdog of a match.

If you follow AIs, you are always going to bet on the favorite, because that is the most logical scenario and AIs totally work based on logics.

However, favorite teams or athletes can also lose, so it's not safe to follow such AIs on their predictions.

Yes but there can be one scenario where AI can be helpful in predicting sports. Lets suppose you want to bet on a match and you do not have any information which team is favorite and which team is weak. You can take help from AI and predict the winner and hope the favorite team wins.

I understand that the underdog team can win too but with the help of AI we may bet on sports which we have no knowledge and the probability of our wins on such matches increases.

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February 10, 2023, 03:08:29 AM
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Yes but there can be one scenario where AI can be helpful in predicting sports. Lets suppose you want to bet on a match and you do not have any information which team is favorite and which team is weak. You can take help from AI and predict the winner and hope the favorite team wins.

I understand that the underdog team can win too but with the help of AI we may bet on sports which we have no knowledge and the probability of our wins on such matches increases.


Absolutely right, and I think that's the best way to use these technologies, as a new tool that allows you to do your job faster and doing new things you couldn't do before.

By itself the AI might not be great, but it's a phenomenal tool when used properly.

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February 10, 2023, 03:59:48 AM
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Yes but there can be one scenario where AI can be helpful in predicting sports. Lets suppose you want to bet on a match and you do not have any information which team is favorite and which team is weak. You can take help from AI and predict the winner and hope the favorite team wins.

I understand that the underdog team can win too but with the help of AI we may bet on sports which we have no knowledge and the probability of our wins on such matches increases.


Absolutely right, and I think that's the best way to use these technologies, as a new tool that allows you to do your job faster and doing new things you couldn't do before.

By itself the AI might not be great, but it's a phenomenal tool when used properly.
Many people out there are scared about the potential AI may have in our lives and while it is true some jobs will disappear thanks to it, many other jobs will require the combination of an AI and a human to produce even better results.

So anyone that is thinking their job could be at jeopardy as a result of the implementation of AI needs to take steps to familiarize themselves with it, and what better way to do it than with an activity you already love like sports bets.

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February 10, 2023, 06:12:46 AM
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Yes but there can be one scenario where AI can be helpful in predicting sports. Lets suppose you want to bet on a match and you do not have any information which team is favorite and which team is weak. You can take help from AI and predict the winner and hope the favorite team wins.

I understand that the underdog team can win too but with the help of AI we may bet on sports which we have no knowledge and the probability of our wins on such matches increases.


Absolutely right, and I think that's the best way to use these technologies, as a new tool that allows you to do your job faster and doing new things you couldn't do before.

By itself the AI might not be great, but it's a phenomenal tool when used properly.
Gamblers will definitely be able to adapt to the current situation because if there are already a lot of gamblers who use AI well and can benefit from using AI, they should also find a way to try it. AI is a tool to help us do something so that we can do it properly and quickly, and using AI to get information about the teams that will compete will give us a faster time in collecting the data. And we can also find out how much the percentage of each team is.
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Yes but there can be one scenario where AI can be helpful in predicting sports. Lets suppose you want to bet on a match and you do not have any information which team is favorite and which team is weak. You can take help from AI and predict the winner and hope the favorite team wins.

I understand that the underdog team can win too but with the help of AI we may bet on sports which we have no knowledge and the probability of our wins on such matches increases.


Absolutely right, and I think that's the best way to use these technologies, as a new tool that allows you to do your job faster and doing new things you couldn't do before.

By itself the AI might not be great, but it's a phenomenal tool when used properly.
But unfortunately AI only manages old data and presents it so punters still have to make their own predictions, I mean even though they already know which team is the favorite to win but only to the extent which is the favorite not which one will win because AI will not be able to control the outcome of the match because it really depends on the appearance of the team or athlete.

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February 10, 2023, 09:03:32 AM
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That is for sure. artificial intelligence technology, it is impossible to predict the outcome of a match precisely and accurately. maybe, if only to seek information from the two teams that will compete. we can use AI as a tool, or practical and easy reference. however, not to predict the outcome of a match. why, the fact is that in a match the team that is superior doesn't always win every match. and don't we already have a lot of experience, related to a match result.

To be honest, I never even tried Al. so I don't know how Al works, let alone a prediction. but certainly, in sports matches, especially football. there is no such thing as an absolute prediction, it all depends on how the two teams play the match. related to a result, it is the consistent team that can come out victorious regardless of the depth of the players of the competing team. the rest, let luck decide.
That is true, in the sense that the actual match outcome is going to be random.

But, still there is some probabilities involved.

Let's say that we're going to bet in a football match between Brazil and San Marino.

You can see that it's the best against the worst: https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/men

Of course the odds are going to be in favor of Brazil, but there's always a tiny chance that they end up tied or Brazil makes an own goal or whatever.

Those kind of odds can be easily calculated by an AI, just like a human could do.
If you need help from an AI to bet on Brazil vs San Marino game, then you shouldn't gamble Cheesy All kidding aside, we just had Croatia vs Brazil, and by your logic then Brazil should have won because they were ranked higher, the difference is that AI should be able to predict these not so common results and I do not think that there is any data which could show that, it will be obvious that any AI would say Brazil would win that game when we know they didn't.

That is why it is not really a good thing to bet with that, it doesn't give people any sort of results and it doesn't give people any sort of extra help that they couldn't find their own, would probably lose.
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February 10, 2023, 12:11:06 PM
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ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?
No, AI may be intelligent but cannot predict anything. They are programmed to give a certain output to a certain input. They may try, but in the long run, I think we are still very far off from seeing that. I would like to think that the only way this may happen is if we have a cyborg, but that isn't going to happen. I have yet to see a thread of ChatGPT predictions. I guess they will not be accurate. Besides, ChatGPT still needs a lot of data and training to reach accuracy in whatever predictions it makes.
agree with your statement. it makes sense that ChatGPT is not yet completely accurate because the AI still relies on input programming and for me it is more accurate to use the predictions of our own brains than leaving predictions to AI.
well, even though I've never tried it, to be honest I'm not sure if AI can provide good predictions. even though if we often bet on sports betting, of course we have predictions that are stronger and more accurate. because we are used to predicting a match and we definitely know which team has good performance which we should choose.
so it would be better to rely on your own predictions than AI predictions.

Well, ChatGPT is not the only prediction program out there, we have access to many more, but the psa is that very few people have access to these programs, so they are not that curious, CHATGPT is something else because almost everyone started talking. . about it and they know things are getting more viral, but if they should release a prediction version of ChatGPT so we can ask a kind of questions that can make predictions, if the new OpenIA update regarding ChatGPT allows some kind of prediction, It would be great to know how reliable these development software are to help us in that regard.
Personally aside, this is all in test mode, they detect anything that is an AI when it is not, and precisely AI detectors are not good, I would add as if that is fashionable, because everyone uses them, but Since everything is demo or beta mode, you should not rely too much, especially on detectors.


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Gamblers will definitely be able to adapt to the current situation because if there are already a lot of gamblers who use AI well and can benefit from using AI, they should also find a way to try it. AI is a tool to help us do something so that we can do it properly and quickly, and using AI to get information about the teams that will compete will give us a faster time in collecting the data. And we can also find out how much the percentage of each team is.

Yup, gamblers who are keen to find ways to have some decent advantages will try to explore and use it to make a good analysis when picking the right game to bet, I'm sure there's people who already exploring and trying the opportunity that this AI is now providing not an assurance but some data that can be usable to analyze well.

This data is worthy if ever you are aiming to pick games and see if which team/player do have a decent advantaged in winning the game.

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