[POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes

[Fredomago]

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Even how much it would be developed, there's still no way that it could really be able to make precise predictions due to factors which cant really be read up with any AI no matter how advanced it would be.
There are things which cant really be touched up by technology advancement not matter how good it is on other aspects but in speaking about future results and other correlated things
then it would be an another story.It is really just we should accept that AI couldnt touch up betting area or something that do talks about predictions and future events
which are bound to happen.

The more information you have about a random event, the more certainty you can get about the prediction.

For example, if you just toss a coin, it's 50% heads or tails. But if you know the starting point of the coin, the force applied, the wind conditions, etc, then you can start to get better at the estimation and predict that it will be heads 60% in that particular throw for example, and the more you know, the better you can estimate that. Also, the closer you are to the event, the better the estimate is, so just before you reveal the coin, the model might already know if it's heads or tails.

You can use that argument as a good advantage, though not an assurance, but it is relevant to how you anticipate how the direction will proceed. It's better to have the right knowledge as you can predict and trust your position. I'm pretty sure most of the experienced gamblers are using this information while trying to sort which game or which sports they can apply to this slight advantage.

Betting strategy is more about how you taking into the account if how you will execute your plan and strategy that will give you the edge against the house.

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[slapper]

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Even how much it would be developed, there's still no way that it could really be able to make precise predictions due to factors which cant really be read up with any AI no matter how advanced it would be.
There are things which cant really be touched up by technology advancement not matter how good it is on other aspects but in speaking about future results and other correlated things
then it would be an another story.It is really just we should accept that AI couldnt touch up betting area or something that do talks about predictions and future events
which are bound to happen.

The more information you have about a random event, the more certainty you can get about the prediction.

For example, if you just toss a coin, it's 50% heads or tails. But if you know the starting point of the coin, the force applied, the wind conditions, etc, then you can start to get better at the estimation and predict that it will be heads 60% in that particular throw for example, and the more you know, the better you can estimate that. Also, the closer you are to the event, the better the estimate is, so just before you reveal the coin, the model might already know if it's heads or tails.

Totally! It's unanimous: the more deets we gather, the more we nail those event predictions. Cause and effect, am I right? The deeper we delve into the causes, the more we anticipate the fallout.

But hold up, did you ever mull over the sheer volume of data we need? Hunting for that elusive needle in the haystack ain't easy! We may be swimming in data, but if it's off-point or chaotically arranged, we're practically in the dark. It's all about nailing that perfect data and decoding it like a champ.

Fascinating how our accuracy soars as we close in on the event, huh? Picture standing on a precipice, edging closer, and suddenly we see more of what lies beneath. A downright poetic ode to the force of data in the prediction game.

[uneng]

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Even how much it would be developed, there's still no way that it could really be able to make precise predictions due to factors which cant really be read up with any AI no matter how advanced it would be.
There are things which cant really be touched up by technology advancement not matter how good it is on other aspects but in speaking about future results and other correlated things
then it would be an another story.It is really just we should accept that AI couldnt touch up betting area or something that do talks about predictions and future events
which are bound to happen.

The more information you have about a random event, the more certainty you can get about the prediction.

For example, if you just toss a coin, it's 50% heads or tails. But if you know the starting point of the coin, the force applied, the wind conditions, etc, then you can start to get better at the estimation and predict that it will be heads 60% in that particular throw for example, and the more you know, the better you can estimate that. Also, the closer you are to the event, the better the estimate is, so just before you reveal the coin, the model might already know if it's heads or tails.

Totally! It's unanimous: the more deets we gather, the more we nail those event predictions. Cause and effect, am I right? The deeper we delve into the causes, the more we anticipate the fallout.

But hold up, did you ever mull over the sheer volume of data we need? Hunting for that elusive needle in the haystack ain't easy! We may be swimming in data, but if it's off-point or chaotically arranged, we're practically in the dark. It's all about nailing that perfect data and decoding it like a champ.

Fascinating how our accuracy soars as we close in on the event, huh? Picture standing on a precipice, edging closer, and suddenly we see more of what lies beneath. A downright poetic ode to the force of data in the prediction game.

The variables and probabilities are too many to reach an accurate prediction. AI can analyze past and present events, but it can never analyze the future, that is constantly ahead us and starts from the next thousandth of second you are reading this on.

Considering the toss a coin example, what if the wind suddenly changes on the moment you drop the coin, what if the force applied isn't executed as previously done or expected? The fact is that AI can't oversee the future, and that would be the only way this technology could be applied predicting outcomes efficiently.

[masulum]

Even how much it would be developed, there's still no way that it could really be able to make precise predictions due to factors which cant really be read up with any AI no matter how advanced it would be.
There are things which cant really be touched up by technology advancement not matter how good it is on other aspects but in speaking about future results and other correlated things
then it would be an another story.It is really just we should accept that AI couldnt touch up betting area or something that do talks about predictions and future events
which are bound to happen.

Yup, AI can't cover future results, this is just a tools to help bettors
There are three things in AI that will help bettors to carry out their strategy as best as possible.
1. Predictive analysis
2. Deep Learning
3. Matching learning
Of the three technologies contained in AI, bettors should have a large amount of current and historical data. With predictive analysis, bettors can speed up the analysis process before deciding who/which club to bet on. Machine learning helps parse all the collected data, and deep learning will help bettors get more data that is difficult for humans to obtain with manual data collection methods.

[len01]

You can use that argument as a good advantage, though not an assurance, but it is relevant to how you anticipate how the direction will proceed. It's better to have the right knowledge as you can predict and trust your position. I'm pretty sure most of the experienced gamblers are using this information while trying to sort which game or which sports they can apply to this slight advantage.

Betting strategy is more about how you taking into the account if how you will execute your plan and strategy that will give you the edge against the house.

now, with AI that is always being developed, it can help gamblers to strengthen their predictions. I mean when a gambler is doing research and wants to predict a match in sports betting, the gambler can use AI to get the information the gambler needs to be able to predict with greater accuracy.
although in this case there is no guarantee of victory but at least AI can help gamblers who want to make predictions.

[Lanatsa]

You can use that argument as a good advantage, though not an assurance, but it is relevant to how you anticipate how the direction will proceed. It's better to have the right knowledge as you can predict and trust your position. I'm pretty sure most of the experienced gamblers are using this information while trying to sort which game or which sports they can apply to this slight advantage.

Betting strategy is more about how you taking into the account if how you will execute your plan and strategy that will give you the edge against the house.

now, with AI that is always being developed, it can help gamblers to strengthen their predictions. I mean when a gambler is doing research and wants to predict a match in sports betting, the gambler can use AI to get the information the gambler needs to be able to predict with greater accuracy.
although in this case there is no guarantee of victory but at least AI can help gamblers who want to make predictions.

Using AI to gather and proving out some information is something i could say that this is where AI would be beneficial since it could be able to provide on whats been asked out but of course you are still the ones

who would really be that formulating on what are the conditions that you would really be that following. There's no point nor really have that kind of assurance that AI's is really that significant when it comes

on predicting games which are bound to happen or simply speaking about future events then its something that you could be able to predict on and so as
with AI's which other people been thinking that it would really be that relevant.

[Fredomago]

You can use that argument as a good advantage, though not an assurance, but it is relevant to how you anticipate how the direction will proceed. It's better to have the right knowledge as you can predict and trust your position. I'm pretty sure most of the experienced gamblers are using this information while trying to sort which game or which sports they can apply to this slight advantage.

Betting strategy is more about how you taking into the account if how you will execute your plan and strategy that will give you the edge against the house.

now, with AI that is always being developed, it can help gamblers to strengthen their predictions. I mean when a gambler is doing research and wants to predict a match in sports betting, the gambler can use AI to get the information the gambler needs to be able to predict with greater accuracy.
although in this case there is no guarantee of victory but at least AI can help gamblers who want to make predictions.

AI development can strengthen the decision making of someone who already done with his research and analysis, it can give a good glimpse of possible outcome but it's still need to remember that accuracy wise there's nothing that we can conclude that it can be precise, gambling is a play of a high-risk venue to try making money.

If you are already done with doing your part and you see that AI is giving you a same advantages, possible that you will proceed and take that call and place your bet.

[cabron]

You can use that argument as a good advantage, though not an assurance, but it is relevant to how you anticipate how the direction will proceed. It's better to have the right knowledge as you can predict and trust your position. I'm pretty sure most of the experienced gamblers are using this information while trying to sort which game or which sports they can apply to this slight advantage.

Betting strategy is more about how you taking into the account if how you will execute your plan and strategy that will give you the edge against the house.

now, with AI that is always being developed, it can help gamblers to strengthen their predictions. I mean when a gambler is doing research and wants to predict a match in sports betting, the gambler can use AI to get the information the gambler needs to be able to predict with greater accuracy.
although in this case there is no guarantee of victory but at least AI can help gamblers who want to make predictions.

AI development can strengthen the decision making of someone who already done with his research and analysis, it can give a good glimpse of possible outcome but it's still need to remember that accuracy wise there's nothing that we can conclude that it can be precise, gambling is a play of a high-risk venue to try making money.

If you are already done with doing your part and you see that AI is giving you a same advantages, possible that you will proceed and take that call and place your bet.

Just as they mean by trusting the AI after confirming that you have the same prediction of the outcome. It's what it's used for when there really is a  finished AI product for this special purpose. If the AI somehow predicted right at least on its first try, there will be a lot of users intrusting thier money when the users who won brag about it online.

Just a few days ago, there is a thread about AI predicting BTC bull run. Although not really a definitive statement was given by the AI, still it stimulates the brain to believe AI predicted the rise.

[Betwrong]

~ If you are already done with doing your part and you see that AI is giving you a same advantages, possible that you will proceed and take that call and place your bet.

I think AI can be more accurate in predicting the outcomes of sport events than we humans. It just needs to take into account all the data that is relevant, and ignore misleading ones. It should be prompted properly, and for that you need some knowledge about sports betting. But then it will be very helpful. More helpful then our own analysis. I'm pretty sure pf it, and can't wait to start using an AI connected to the internet for predictions.

[Lucasgabd]

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Of course, obviously things with AI are like this, the data collected will never be the good option to decipher what can happen, also there are many things that influence sports games, who are the ones that motivate players to play like this, what It caught my attention, it was in the World Cup in Qatar where an AI predicted that the final would be between Portugal and Argentina, it was something really chilling because the one who won the mjudnial was Argentina, although the AI was wrong for the contender from Argentina, but It seems to me that it was just a coincidence, I know that the AI quickly pulls the statistics and that is a very good functionality.

There were also some other predictions that said that France and Brazil would be in the final.

At the end of the day, given enough predictions, one of them will be right. So always keep that in mind. People tend to ignore the failed predictions and focus on the ones that actually happened.

Yes indeed, I cannot deny that the final that the AI predicted would be between Argentina and Portugal caught my attention, because at once I imagined Messi vs CR7, and that was something phenomenal, I really would have liked it much more than France would have reached the Final, and I also did not like that Deschamps did not include Benzema and I think that was a great warning of having lost that final, this is one of the things that happens when the technical director has not been able to mature the differences with his players, you can't send the weakest to war, you must send the strongest to win it, but Deschamps couldn't see that, and that's what the AI failed to predict, that's why I say to this the AI needs a lot of development.

Even how much it would be developed, there's still no way that it could really be able to make precise predictions due to factors which cant really be read up with any AI no matter how advanced it would be.
There are things which cant really be touched up by technology advancement not matter how good it is on other aspects but in speaking about future results and other correlated things
then it would be an another story.It is really just we should accept that AI couldnt touch up betting area or something that do talks about predictions and future events
which are bound to happen.

I totally agree, even with AI technology advncing, there are certain factors that can't be predicted by machines, no matter how sophisticated they are. Some things are just beyond the scope of technology, especially when it comes to predicting future events like sports games. We need to accept that betting and predictions are areas where AI simply can't compete with human intuition and expertise.

[Fredomago]

~ If you are already done with doing your part and you see that AI is giving you a same advantages, possible that you will proceed and take that call and place your bet.

I think AI can be more accurate in predicting the outcomes of sport events than we humans. It just needs to take into account all the data that is relevant, and ignore misleading ones. It should be prompted properly, and for that you need some knowledge about sports betting. But then it will be very helpful. More helpful then our own analysis. I'm pretty sure pf it, and can't wait to start using an AI connected to the internet for predictions.

Using the data that are available I can agree to your statement that AI do have an advantage in analysing the possible outcome of the sport events, all the shared information will be sorted out to provide better analysis and with your knowledge about the game you'll be able to back up what AI are providing and decide on your next step after confirming it with your own analysis.

[rahmad2nd]

I totally agree, even with AI technology advncing, there are certain factors that can't be predicted by machines, no matter how sophisticated they are. Some things are just beyond the scope of technology, especially when it comes to predicting future events like sports games. We need to accept that betting and predictions are areas where AI simply can't compete with human intuition and expertise.

Well, let's take the example of football. in football, it takes 11 players and each player plays their respective roles. when the two teams compete, strategies and coaches are needed. So, in theory, football involves many parties. one mistake made by a player, can be fatal for the team as a whole. as well as performance, performance plays an important role to be a measure in every consideration of our analysis assessment. besides that, the absence of several players can also have an impact on team performance.

Well, the question is, can AI explore all of that? Can Al predict accurately, I say no for now. why, because football doesn't only talk about data and statistics, but it's more complex than that. and it seems, the machine will not answer what we need regarding 100% correct predictions. if only to find data, information, and everything related to the two teams that will compete, it looks like we can rely on Al. yes, because, they are more efficient. to predict, I don't think so. so, overall I agree with what you said.

[wxa7115]

I totally agree, even with AI technology advncing, there are certain factors that can't be predicted by machines, no matter how sophisticated they are. Some things are just beyond the scope of technology, especially when it comes to predicting future events like sports games. We need to accept that betting and predictions are areas where AI simply can't compete with human intuition and expertise.

Well, let's take the example of football. in football, it takes 11 players and each player plays their respective roles. when the two teams compete, strategies and coaches are needed. So, in theory, football involves many parties. one mistake made by a player, can be fatal for the team as a whole. as well as performance, performance plays an important role to be a measure in every consideration of our analysis assessment. besides that, the absence of several players can also have an impact on team performance.

Well, the question is, can AI explore all of that? Can Al predict accurately, I say no for now. why, because football doesn't only talk about data and statistics, but it's more complex than that. and it seems, the machine will not answer what we need regarding 100% correct predictions. if only to find data, information, and everything related to the two teams that will compete, it looks like we can rely on Al. yes, because, they are more efficient. to predict, I don't think so. so, overall I agree with what you said.

While it is true there are things that right now cannot be quantified, and as such they are invisible to an AI which can only evaluate data, the tendency is for more data to appear regarding our favorite sports and as such this will increase the ability of the AI to produce decent predictions about the possible outcomes of a match.

So even if an AI which can predict the result of an upcoming match was not possible at the moment, if given enough time I do not see how such an AI could not appear given what we know about our technological development.

[nullama]

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Well, let's take the example of football. in football, it takes 11 players and each player plays their respective roles. when the two teams compete, strategies and coaches are needed. So, in theory, football involves many parties. one mistake made by a player, can be fatal for the team as a whole. as well as performance, performance plays an important role to be a measure in every consideration of our analysis assessment. besides that, the absence of several players can also have an impact on team performance.

Well, the question is, can AI explore all of that? Can Al predict accurately, I say no for now. why, because football doesn't only talk about data and statistics, but it's more complex than that. and it seems, the machine will not answer what we need regarding 100% correct predictions. if only to find data, information, and everything related to the two teams that will compete, it looks like we can rely on Al. yes, because, they are more efficient. to predict, I don't think so. so, overall I agree with what you said.

The thing is that you can combine a statistical AI that has all the previous information about the matches, players, etc, and starts the match with an idea, say team A has 80% chance of winning.

Then, while they are playing you can have an AI trained with computer vision to actually look at the performance of each player and see how things are going, in real time, and update the odds in real time.

Something like that would be really powerful and I think it might be already out there somewhere.

[AicecreaME]

~snip~
Well, let's take the example of football. in football, it takes 11 players and each player plays their respective roles. when the two teams compete, strategies and coaches are needed. So, in theory, football involves many parties. one mistake made by a player, can be fatal for the team as a whole. as well as performance, performance plays an important role to be a measure in every consideration of our analysis assessment. besides that, the absence of several players can also have an impact on team performance.

Well, the question is, can AI explore all of that? Can Al predict accurately, I say no for now. why, because football doesn't only talk about data and statistics, but it's more complex than that. and it seems, the machine will not answer what we need regarding 100% correct predictions. if only to find data, information, and everything related to the two teams that will compete, it looks like we can rely on Al. yes, because, they are more efficient. to predict, I don't think so. so, overall I agree with what you said.

The thing is that you can combine a statistical AI that has all the previous information about the matches, players, etc, and starts the match with an idea, say team A has 80% chance of winning.

Then, while they are playing you can have an AI trained with computer vision to actually look at the performance of each player and see how things are going, in real time, and update the odds in real time.

Something like that would be really powerful and I think it might be already out there somewhere.

This is a good idea. Although I think it will cost a lot to make an AI that incorporates all the previous statistical data and records of the players and teams to the real-time action and performance on the field. It will be a tedious task to code and to maintain the program as well because we are talking about comparison of the real time playing and previous plays of the players where the AI will draw or predict the winning odds.

But if ever this will really be created, it will be a good and powerful tool to use as a reference on how you will make your bet.

[len01]

You can use that argument as a good advantage, though not an assurance, but it is relevant to how you anticipate how the direction will proceed. It's better to have the right knowledge as you can predict and trust your position. I'm pretty sure most of the experienced gamblers are using this information while trying to sort which game or which sports they can apply to this slight advantage.

Betting strategy is more about how you taking into the account if how you will execute your plan and strategy that will give you the edge against the house.

now, with AI that is always being developed, it can help gamblers to strengthen their predictions. I mean when a gambler is doing research and wants to predict a match in sports betting, the gambler can use AI to get the information the gambler needs to be able to predict with greater accuracy.
although in this case there is no guarantee of victory but at least AI can help gamblers who want to make predictions.

AI development can strengthen the decision making of someone who already done with his research and analysis, it can give a good glimpse of possible outcome but it's still need to remember that accuracy wise there's nothing that we can conclude that it can be precise, gambling is a play of a high-risk venue to try making money.

If you are already done with doing your part and you see that AI is giving you a same advantages, possible that you will proceed and take that call and place your bet.

Just as they mean by trusting the AI after confirming that you have the same prediction of the outcome. It's what it's used for when there really is a  finished AI product for this special purpose. If the AI somehow predicted right at least on its first try, there will be a lot of users intrusting thier money when the users who won brag about it online.

Just a few days ago, there is a thread about AI predicting BTC bull run. Although not really a definitive statement was given by the AI, still it stimulates the brain to believe AI predicted the rise.

most important point here is that AI can be useful for gamblers if gamblers feel doubtful or lack confidence in their own predictions, but it should be noted that something said by AI is not necessarily true and we still need to correct the results displayed by AI.
to be honest, I've never tried predicting using AI assistance, but I think it will come in handy when I really need it for sports betting.

on the other hand, AI can also provide more knowledge experience when we don't know the latest news about sports and that is very helpful.

[YuginKadoya]

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

I once made a conversation on ChatGPT and I asked who was going to win between Islam Makhachev VS Alex Pereira, because why not I am really curious about who's really going to win, and this is the exact answer the AI said to me,

"As an AI language model, I don't have the ability to predict the outcome of a sporting event with certainty. The winner of a fight can be influenced by a number of factors, including each fighter's skills, training, physical condition, and strategy. The result can also be impacted by variables such as the referee's decisions, injuries, or other unexpected events. Ultimately, the outcome of a fight is determined by the competitors in the ring and cannot be accurately predicted beforehand"

So yeah AI wouldn't likely predict the future for sure, but predicting the outcome of a certain fight yeah the AI can not really do such a thing so he just included and lengthen the conversation by saying some stuff on the factors that may affect the fight, so in my opinion, ChatGPT or the AI can not predict certain what may happen on gambling but it can provide some explanation about it, and what may be the outcome,

[STT]

I'd say AI can and should be able to form statistically based opinion on multiple event outcomes.  However like I've said for AI over decades, its behind the curve still. Musk saying be careful its too advanced it might be dangerous is funny, what is potentially dangerous is over reliance on various computer systems.   Like the Passenger Jet crash that failed because the Autopilot lost access to the available air speed, it froze over so autopilot and the pilots themselves had no way to diagnostically correct themselves and adjust course.   Every pilot and driver is required to stay awake and able to fly or drive, yet people want to resign this position basically its laziness we are still the weakest point.
    Those scenarios are dangerous, computers are still just computers but of course I hope AI is increasingly helpful enabling utility to those access to those skill sets manually.   Predicting game outcomes is statistics which is maths which is totally within the realm of a computer to extrapolate and spit out a verdict.

[Lanatsa]

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Well, let's take the example of football. in football, it takes 11 players and each player plays their respective roles. when the two teams compete, strategies and coaches are needed. So, in theory, football involves many parties. one mistake made by a player, can be fatal for the team as a whole. as well as performance, performance plays an important role to be a measure in every consideration of our analysis assessment. besides that, the absence of several players can also have an impact on team performance.

Well, the question is, can AI explore all of that? Can Al predict accurately, I say no for now. why, because football doesn't only talk about data and statistics, but it's more complex than that. and it seems, the machine will not answer what we need regarding 100% correct predictions. if only to find data, information, and everything related to the two teams that will compete, it looks like we can rely on Al. yes, because, they are more efficient. to predict, I don't think so. so, overall I agree with what you said.

The thing is that you can combine a statistical AI that has all the previous information about the matches, players, etc, and starts the match with an idea, say team A has 80% chance of winning.

Then, while they are playing you can have an AI trained with computer vision to actually look at the performance of each player and see how things are going, in real time, and update the odds in real time.

Something like that would be really powerful and I think it might be already out there somewhere.

If you do know on how to make use of it and treat it as a tool on gathering up information then it would really be useful into gamblers on which they could accumulate all the information in one go rather than on making up some scattered search which is something that i would say to be that convenient in our part which i do see the relevance of it existence on this part and would really be applied on this way
but making yourself that relying on AI when choosing up your selection or bets then it is something that not that reliable or something you could really be that able to rely or
wise to do so.There's no way an AI could predict on what happen on things which outcomes or results are totally that random or unpredictable due to some factors.

[nullama]

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If you do know on how to make use of it and treat it as a tool on gathering up information then it would really be useful into gamblers on which they could accumulate all the information in one go rather than on making up some scattered search which is something that i would say to be that convenient in our part which i do see the relevance of it existence on this part and would really be applied on this way
but making yourself that relying on AI when choosing up your selection or bets then it is something that not that reliable or something you could really be that able to rely or
wise to do so.There's no way an AI could predict on what happen on things which outcomes or results are totally that random or unpredictable due to some factors.

These days we rely a lot on the Internet.

Modern civilization cannot really work with an outage of electricity or Internet.

In a similar way, I can see that in the future we will have a lot of reliance upon these systems. It's just a continuation of centralization. Currently it is Google, Apple, etc, that most people rely upon to live their lives, but in the future this might change to other companies that control AIs.