[POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes

[nullama]

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And you need to know that even though this simple scheme has been tried millions of times by many people, there must be someone who succeeds in implementing it because some of them are lucky.

But hey, if you know a programming language, it will be easy to exploit. It's not for the layman who doesn't know anything about the bugs of the casino, but for the ones who do, they'll spend their time looking for those bugs. It will be more challenging for them and not because of the gambling game but because finding the bug is a real challenge for them.

A casino is like a company where many eyes are watching it. But of the many watching eyes, there must be eyes that only look for weaknesses in a system, and they want to use the system for their benefit. Otherwise, we would not have heard of any leaks within the company in much of the news. But it's okay if you think of it as something ridiculous

I think it's more worthwhile to use that time, skills, and attention to solve a problem in the real world.

You are way more likely to earn a lot of money doing that, compared to trying to win against the casino.

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[Lucasgabd]

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Let's be real, any hardcore gambler out there knows that house always has the edge in the long run. Talk about tens or hundreds of millions of bets, right? But hey, who's counting? Dive into the game, feeling the rush, and hope for the best

However, the AI twist is some next-level mojo! Though I'm skeptical about AI making casinos go broke, I'd be lying if I said I wasn’t a tiny bit envious of someone smart enough to use it to their advantage. Just imagine: a little digital buddy whispering in your ear, giving you the lowdown. But remember, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Game responsibly, folks

Let's just not forget that the house has the edge in the long run over all players combined. One particular player can lose everything to the house, not only the house edge, all his money. Another can win 1,000x of his bets combined, even in the long run. The probability of that is low, but if you have billions of players thing with extremely low probability can happen to some of them.

AI might help some people to have an edge over the others, but not over the casino. And, of course, even betting with the help of AI, we should play responsibly, you are right.

good point
also take into account that some games you're playing against the house directly and others are more PvP with the house maintaining its edge
different styles

slots would be more only agaisnt the house, as an example

[len01]

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A casino is like a company where many eyes are watching it. But of the many watching eyes, there must be eyes that only look for weaknesses in a system, and they want to use the system for their benefit. Otherwise, we would not have heard of any leaks within the company in much of the news. But it's okay if you think of it as something ridiculous

for me, this is not ridiculous, but it is a fact that sometimes big companies or well established online casinos still have leaks in any way, even the system in it, because not everyone can be trusted, even a team that is highly trusted, one day if you experience pressure for something, they will definitely do something. breaking the rules. probably not leak the system but will be used personally to get bigger profits as we talked about here before and could have been used to create AI to benefit from the leak.

[Lucasgabd]

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A casino is like a company where many eyes are watching it. But of the many watching eyes, there must be eyes that only look for weaknesses in a system, and they want to use the system for their benefit. Otherwise, we would not have heard of any leaks within the company in much of the news. But it's okay if you think of it as something ridiculous

for me, this is not ridiculous, but it is a fact that sometimes big companies or well established online casinos still have leaks in any way, even the system in it, because not everyone can be trusted, even a team that is highly trusted, one day if you experience pressure for something, they will definitely do something. breaking the rules. probably not leak the system but will be used personally to get bigger profits as we talked about here before and could have been used to create AI to benefit from the leak.

exactly
even with thir parties like those companies that handle kyc for big ones
some say that your data is deleted afterwards but there's no real way to know.

creating an AI to benefit of leeks really depends on the leek, sounds a bit more like fiction than reality at this moment, how would it possibly work?

[maydna]

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for me, this is not ridiculous, but it is a fact that sometimes big companies or well established online casinos still have leaks in any way, even the system in it, because not everyone can be trusted, even a team that is highly trusted, one day if you experience pressure for something, they will definitely do something. breaking the rules. probably not leak the system but will be used personally to get bigger profits as we talked about here before and could have been used to create AI to benefit from the leak.

Yes, big companies or well-known online casinos can experience leaks because we know nothing can be safe. Perhaps it's safe for now, but we don't know if it will still be safe in the future or if there will be a leak. For this reason, the team at the casino must be vigilant at all times to ensure that the casino is truly safe and that nothing endangers its business. And even if there is something suspicious, the team from the casino will immediately investigate it before something suspicious destroys the system. And if it is because of an AI trying to beat the casino, the casino will try hard to keep up with it so that victory remains on its side.

[len01]

Yes, big companies or well-known online casinos can experience leaks because we know nothing can be safe. Perhaps it's safe for now, but we don't know if it will still be safe in the future or if there will be a leak. For this reason, the team at the casino must be vigilant at all times to ensure that the casino is truly safe and that nothing endangers its business. And even if there is something suspicious, the team from the casino will immediately investigate it before something suspicious destroys the system. And if it is because of an AI trying to beat the casino, the casino will try hard to keep up with it so that victory remains on its side.

everything that is based online does not have a secure nature, even if it is a world wide large platform, of course there will always be gaps in it. that the reason the development team at a casino will always carry out security improvements every few months or once a few weeks with the aim as you said to investigate anything suspicious that could harm the casino. and Im also very sure that even though I previously said that sometimes there is a team that violates casino rules to take advantage of loopholes to create their own AI, but surely a team that really has great trust will definitely do a hard job to always fight against AI of all kinds in the long run. long can beat the house.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Yes, big companies or well-known online casinos can experience leaks because we know nothing can be safe. Perhaps it's safe for now, but we don't know if it will still be safe in the future or if there will be a leak. For this reason, the team at the casino must be vigilant at all times to ensure that the casino is truly safe and that nothing endangers its business. And even if there is something suspicious, the team from the casino will immediately investigate it before something suspicious destroys the system. And if it is because of an AI trying to beat the casino, the casino will try hard to keep up with it so that victory remains on its side.

everything that is based online does not have a secure nature, even if it is a world wide large platform, of course there will always be gaps in it. that the reason the development team at a casino will always carry out security improvements every few months or once a few weeks with the aim as you said to investigate anything suspicious that could harm the casino. and Im also very sure that even though I previously said that sometimes there is a team that violates casino rules to take advantage of loopholes to create their own AI, but surely a team that really has great trust will definitely do a hard job to always fight against AI of all kinds in the long run. long can beat the house.

Well, it is currently the law that casinos have a lot of security and that they continue to invest in security, as far as I am concerned, all the rise of AI that awoke up to now is because the osas were already being done before, only when things are already obsolete can they release it to the world and the world marvels at such things, but still things with the AI are not that advanced, not yet, because no player until now has been able to beat a casino using the AI, as I said before, the only The way that I see the ability of an AI to help a player is in the predictions of sports events and games, because an AI can store certain data that is used to make the player or bettor win, because the statistics and calculations that the AI does They are much faster than what you do as a human, an AI does it in seconds and if you want to use any kind of mathematical modeling it does it too and without any equivocation, then I can at least see that a player or bettor can use the AI as a possible help tool to place your bets, but not that you place the bets and win and have a 100% effectiveness rate, however, the casinos, the excahnges, all have to invest a lot of money in their security, because it is currently vital.

There are many people who are now learning AI, there are many courses and well, this is an innovation and many things can be done with AI, but if a person wants to learn AI to make an algorithm that can win a casino, they are very far from that, The casino has a lot of internal security, and that should stay that way, because when it comes to security, the casino cannot stop investing and whatever it takes they should do it, because there are players who have a lot of money in their accounts, the whales and all Those big players have their money there, so direct responsibility if that money is stolen or something belongs to the casino, nobody else, then things are like that because they should be like that.

[KTChampions]

Well, it is currently the law that casinos have a lot of security and that they continue to invest in security, as far as I am concerned, all the rise of AI that awoke up to now is because the osas were already being done before, only when things are already obsolete can they release it to the world and the world marvels at such things, but still things with the AI are not that advanced, not yet, because no player until now has been able to beat a casino using the AI, as I said before, the only The way that I see the ability of an AI to help a player is in the predictions of sports events and games, because an AI can store certain data that is used to make the player or bettor win, because the statistics and calculations that the AI does They are much faster than what you do as a human, an AI does it in seconds and if you want to use any kind of mathematical modeling it does it too and without any equivocation, then I can at least see that a player or bettor can use the AI as a possible help tool to place your bets, but not that you place the bets and win and have a 100% effectiveness rate, however, the casinos, the excahnges, all have to invest a lot of money in their security, because it is currently vital.
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If we assume that the main advantages of AI are in the rapid processing of huge amounts of information, then we must think that AI can be successful in live betting - due to the rapidly changing situation on the playing field, there will always be distortions in the odds that AI can quickly see and use.
The question is that this AI needs its own "eyes" - if you rely on people who first see, then enter some information into the database, then for live betting it is too slow. Plus, I'm sure that AI itself will highlight new parameters that people don't see now when it has its own "eyes".

[OgNasty]

I’ve been looking into building my own AI cluster as I have plenty of GPUs and CPUs sitting idle currently. Does anyone have any resources on AI or suggestions on the best place to go to get help in building such a thing? There are so many articles and sites out now that I’m not sure what the trusted go to is for this material yet.

[Blitzboy]

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Well, it is currently the law that casinos have a lot of security and that they continue to invest in security, as far as I am concerned, all the rise of AI that awoke up to now is because the osas were already being done before, only when things are already obsolete can they release it to the world and the world marvels at such things, but still things with the AI are not that advanced, not yet, because no player until now has been able to beat a casino using the AI, as I said before, the only The way that I see the ability of an AI to help a player is in the predictions of sports events and games, because an AI can store certain data that is used to make the player or bettor win, because the statistics and calculations that the AI does They are much faster than what you do as a human, an AI does it in seconds and if you want to use any kind of mathematical modeling it does it too and without any equivocation, then I can at least see that a player or bettor can use the AI as a possible help tool to place your bets, but not that you place the bets and win and have a 100% effectiveness rate, however, the casinos, the excahnges, all have to invest a lot of money in their security, because it is currently vital.

There are many people who are now learning AI, there are many courses and well, this is an innovation and many things can be done with AI, but if a person wants to learn AI to make an algorithm that can win a casino, they are very far from that, The casino has a lot of internal security, and that should stay that way, because when it comes to security, the casino cannot stop investing and whatever it takes they should do it, because there are players who have a lot of money in their accounts, the whales and all Those big players have their money there, so direct responsibility if that money is stolen or something belongs to the casino, nobody else, then things are like that because they should be like that.

outsmarting a casino using AI? Next-level stuff! As cool as AI is, Danny Ocean wont have a robot companion anytime soon. Casinos spend a lot on security despite their glitter. They were in the game before Twitter trended AI.

Though I get your sports predicting perspective. There's hope: AI does numbers quicker than Usain Bolt on a good day? Heck yes! But anticipating 100% wins? That's dreaming big. Las Vegas casinos know their stuff, hence their name.

Yes, for tech geniuses hoping to code their way to a casino jackpot? Good luck. My memoir has fewer security levels than casinos. You shouldn't meddle with a casino's IT team. MVPs are them.

[KTChampions]

I’ve been looking into building my own AI cluster as I have plenty of GPUs and CPUs sitting idle currently. Does anyone have any resources on AI or suggestions on the best place to go to get help in building such a thing? There are so many articles and sites out now that I’m not sure what the trusted go to is for this material yet.

A lot depends on what kind of AI you want to create. As I understand it, if for generating images, then there is nothing easier - there are open source solutions that can be run even at low capacities. But if you are talking about language models, then the GPU and processors will not be enough, as I understand it (I am far from IT, but I was interested) because of the number of parameters, a much larger amount of memory is needed there that ordinary GPUs have.

[nullama]

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A lot depends on what kind of AI you want to create. As I understand it, if for generating images, then there is nothing easier - there are open source solutions that can be run even at low capacities. But if you are talking about language models, then the GPU and processors will not be enough, as I understand it (I am far from IT, but I was interested) because of the number of parameters, a much larger amount of memory is needed there that ordinary GPUs have.

StableDiffusion can be used to generate images on a normal computer, say a mac mini.

In the same way, you can simply download a model that is only a few GBs and you should be able to use your own private GPT.

Here are some pointers:

https://github.com/oobabooga/text-generation-webui

https://github.com/imartinez/privateGPT

https://gpt4all.io/index.html

Have a look at this Stacker News post I made about gpt4all: https://stacker.news/items/225535

[maydna]

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everything that is based online does not have a secure nature, even if it is a world wide large platform, of course there will always be gaps in it. that the reason the development team at a casino will always carry out security improvements every few months or once a few weeks with the aim as you said to investigate anything suspicious that could harm the casino. and Im also very sure that even though I previously said that sometimes there is a team that violates casino rules to take advantage of loopholes to create their own AI, but surely a team that really has great trust will definitely do a hard job to always fight against AI of all kinds in the long run. long can beat the house.

Casinos will update their systems because they also realize that there will be leaks that they don't always know about, so they feel the need to check everything to make sure no leaks occur in the casino. For this reason, the casino has a security team that will always work to make sure everything is still safe and under control so that their customers won't worry and can gamble in peace. This also concerns the trust that its customers have given because they have played gambling at the casino, which is the casino of their choice.

But surely, there will be people who intend to break down the casino system because they want to use the leak for their benefit. But with a security team that is always available, there is no need to worry about this because the casino security team will work well to keep the casino safe.

[Betwrong]

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good point
also take into account that some games you're playing against the house directly and others are more PvP with the house maintaining its edge
different styles

slots would be more only agaisnt the house, as an example

But using AI to predict outcomes of slot spins would be pointless, right? Nothing can help you to win in slots except luck.

With sports betting and poker it's a different thing. In the fields where skills are required AI, I'm sure, can help make your predictions more accurate. And the level of the accuracy will depend on the prompt. It will be the war of prompts in the end, I think.

[STT]

AI from what I've seen so far is mostly about enabling what is already possible but usually far more awkward.  The AI is a way for the plain masses of the population to access tools normally less available then it can provide via a search engine type conversational interface.      
  The other big point about AI that Ive heard a few times is you must remember the giant amount of data required for it to work.   Dont forget the computer isnt really super intelligent its mostly about resourcefulness to reference the data on tap it has; a giant reserve of data accumulated and formatted ready to use with the AI is the secret behind its magic.
   Show me the data for the outcomes with gambling and I will believe it can be of great help, for card games this is often maths data and long established and known so I can believe that possibility as AI.  I studied card games as part of a statistics and probability theory course a quarter century ago and it was old as hell then, its still relevant now to be in any AI  deployed solution no doubt.

[nullama]

AI from what I've seen so far is mostly about enabling what is already possible but usually far more awkward.  The AI is a way for the plain masses of the population to access tools normally less available then it can provide via a search engine type conversational interface.      
  The other big point about AI that Ive heard a few times is you must remember the giant amount of data required for it to work.   Dont forget the computer isnt really super intelligent its mostly about resourcefulness to reference the data on tap it has; a giant reserve of data accumulated and formatted ready to use with the AI is the secret behind its magic.
   Show me the data for the outcomes with gambling and I will believe it can be of great help, for card games this is often maths data and long established and known so I can believe that possibility as AI.  I studied card games as part of a statistics and probability theory course a quarter century ago and it was old as hell then, its still relevant now to be in any AI  deployed solution no doubt.

AI is great for saving time while doing basic initial research on a topic.

You can for example learn a few computer languages in a basic way in minutes, or days instead of weeks.

You can also learn a lot faster to gamble for example than just researching the web.

It's a bit like the first jump from books to the Internet, now instead of searching the Internet you ask your AI friend who already knows (or bullshits you, just like a friend would do).

[Lucasgabd]

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for me, this is not ridiculous, but it is a fact that sometimes big companies or well established online casinos still have leaks in any way, even the system in it, because not everyone can be trusted, even a team that is highly trusted, one day if you experience pressure for something, they will definitely do something. breaking the rules. probably not leak the system but will be used personally to get bigger profits as we talked about here before and could have been used to create AI to benefit from the leak.

Yes, big companies or well-known online casinos can experience leaks because we know nothing can be safe. Perhaps it's safe for now, but we don't know if it will still be safe in the future or if there will be a leak. For this reason, the team at the casino must be vigilant at all times to ensure that the casino is truly safe and that nothing endangers its business. And even if there is something suspicious, the team from the casino will immediately investigate it before something suspicious destroys the system. And if it is because of an AI trying to beat the casino, the casino will try hard to keep up with it so that victory remains on its side.

practicing good digital and network hygiene is a must
not clicking on spammy links, not downloading anything you see online, using an adblock and anti-script, using a VM to run suspicious applications.
all of these things can help

they're not 100% sure methods you won't have problems since no system is completely safe, but this can definitely mitigate risk.

[maydna]

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practicing good digital and network hygiene is a must
not clicking on spammy links, not downloading anything you see online, using an adblock and anti-script, using a VM to run suspicious applications.
all of these things can help

they're not 100% sure methods you won't have problems since no system is completely safe, but this can definitely mitigate risk.

That's what you have to do if you want to check a site to see if the site is really safe and if no intruder applications are trying to integrate our devices. But most people don't do it because of limitations in using or trying to own it. After all, everything costs money to start ordering it.

But when it comes to AI being able to predict the outcome with much higher accuracy than we do, that seems interesting because we can learn a lot from the calculations performed by AI. Of course, that will allow us to improve our analytical skills so that we can also analyze well. We can learn from anywhere because the most important thing is how we can have analytical skills that can help us to predict the results.

[LUCKMCFLY]

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for me, this is not ridiculous, but it is a fact that sometimes big companies or well established online casinos still have leaks in any way, even the system in it, because not everyone can be trusted, even a team that is highly trusted, one day if you experience pressure for something, they will definitely do something. breaking the rules. probably not leak the system but will be used personally to get bigger profits as we talked about here before and could have been used to create AI to benefit from the leak.

Yes, big companies or well-known online casinos can experience leaks because we know nothing can be safe. Perhaps it's safe for now, but we don't know if it will still be safe in the future or if there will be a leak. For this reason, the team at the casino must be vigilant at all times to ensure that the casino is truly safe and that nothing endangers its business. And even if there is something suspicious, the team from the casino will immediately investigate it before something suspicious destroys the system. And if it is because of an AI trying to beat the casino, the casino will try hard to keep up with it so that victory remains on its side.

practicing good digital and network hygiene is a must
not clicking on spammy links, not downloading anything you see online, using an adblock and anti-script, using a VM to run suspicious applications.
all of these things can help

they're not 100% sure methods you won't have problems since no system is completely safe, but this can definitely mitigate risk.

What you Say is very good , at these times you can be up to date with AI, but I Know that in the Very near Future they can Change and be more Difficult to Contro l, just thinking that a Robot that is left learning an Activity, can Spend 12 hours and it's as if he were Already a Master of that Activity, it's as if he had been Practicing this Activity for 30 or 40 years, so when it comes to the things that have to be done more Rigidly , a robot Learns it , the more complicate , a robot can also do them and more quickly, that is why many risks come for many People in their work, because obviously a robot programs better, even learn to box better than a Professional Boxer, if we had that learning capacity We, well, I think that we will still have an advantage but not as things Are , so the AI is already impossible to follow up on, not let it take too much Advantage of us Because when it is Uncontrollable, it can do Things by itself without we Cannot control.

Of course I know that I am Being quite Emphatic in the Way that things can be Treated , or that it can be seen as a lot of science fiction, or that is what we have seen in many movies, but when it comes to AI there are no limits. , it may be that those movies or those possible things that we see as impossible if they come true, when we Focus on other things that are like casinos, the ways to win and do to be able to have an Improvement in our game, well an AI can Help , it's not that it's integrated into the game, but it could help, not right now , but Later , so in this order of Ideas things can look Like this , if we Start doing things with the AI it can give us an idea of what euq eremos, not the rest, as I said, sports betting could be used much more Because more Statistics and more things Focused on mathematical tools can be Handled and that is More possible and feasible to Happen.

[Lucasgabd]

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practicing good digital and network hygiene is a must
not clicking on spammy links, not downloading anything you see online, using an adblock and anti-script, using a VM to run suspicious applications.
all of these things can help

they're not 100% sure methods you won't have problems since no system is completely safe, but this can definitely mitigate risk.

That's what you have to do if you want to check a site to see if the site is really safe and if no intruder applications are trying to integrate our devices. But most people don't do it because of limitations in using or trying to own it. After all, everything costs money to start ordering it.

But when it comes to AI being able to predict the outcome with much higher accuracy than we do, that seems interesting because we can learn a lot from the calculations performed by AI. Of course, that will allow us to improve our analytical skills so that we can also analyze well. We can learn from anywhere because the most important thing is how we can have analytical skills that can help us to predict the results.

A way to think about AI is to look at chess

will studying AI moves or playing against an AI help you become a chessmaster?
no it won't.

can it be used as a resource to help you improve and teach you new things, as well as study your mistakes and blunders? yes it can.