[POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes

[RealMalatesta]

I really don't think I will leave my bets to an artificial intelligence to do my sourcing for me and I will rather do copy gambling rather than leave my bets to artificial intelligence to do them for me .
I'm not even condemning people who do so because I believe there are people who do so and are doing relatively very well in it without much stress and hassle and people like that will tell you so much about letting artificial intelligence do the work for them. In general, I will never leave my bets to an artificial intelligence to do my sourcing for me.

It's scary at first but if you already tested it for a long time and it works almost perfect like it can give more wins than losses then why not? Using them saves you time for researching if what teams are going to do well. Copying other gamblers is I think no different to this because you are still relying into someone or something else and are you sure that those gamblers manually studying their picks carefully?

What if they are only playing for fun that time and also some of them are using AI. We are still not sure about their future. Maybe the time will come that they will get banned so it's always better to have a back up plan than totally depending on them.

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[serveria.com]

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

Def no, bots or AI use all data available at the moment to predict the result of the game, but as players are only humans (although highly professional ones) they make errors, they can suffer an injury, withdraw, lose temper and many other things which cannot be predicted by a machine, no matter how perfect.

[AmoreJaz]

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

Def no, bots or AI use all data available at the moment to predict the result of the game, but as players are only humans (although highly professional ones) they make errors, they can suffer an injury, withdraw, lose temper and many other things which cannot be predicted by a machine, no matter how perfect.

that's very true. what will happen in the field is unpredictable. but if the time comes and developers created an AI that has very good success rate, i don't think bookies will allow this betting to happen deploying AI. they will stop their business before this is exploited. they won't permit paying huge winnings owed to AI.

[nullama]

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that's very true. what will happen in the field is unpredictable. but if the time comes and developers created an AI that has very good success rate, i don't think bookies will allow this betting to happen deploying AI. they will stop their business before this is exploited. they won't permit paying huge winnings owed to AI.

Casinos have always been fighting against people using technology to try to get better odds.

In the early days that was card counting, probability calculations, etc, now it might be that the new AI can give users an edge with sports betting...

It would be hard to enforce for the casinos though, as they simply get a bet. How would they know why the person made the bet?, no way they can know the gambler used an AI.

[romero121]

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

Def no, bots or AI use all data available at the moment to predict the result of the game, but as players are only humans (although highly professional ones) they make errors, they can suffer an injury, withdraw, lose temper and many other things which cannot be predicted by a machine, no matter how perfect.

that's very true. what will happen in the field is unpredictable. but if the time comes and developers created an AI that has very good success rate, i don't think bookies will allow this betting to happen deploying AI. they will stop their business before this is exploited. they won't permit paying huge winnings owed to AI.

How come it is possible that an AI based outcome will be precise. Maybe there can be coincidence, but I don't believe that AI gives perfect outcome on sports and casinos. Just think, if AI knows the script on which a particular casino function, then it is ok to say AI does it. When it simply make prediction as the human, how come it'll give the close outcome.

[maydna]

I really don't think I will leave my bets to an artificial intelligence to do my sourcing for me and I will rather do copy gambling rather than leave my bets to artificial intelligence to do them for me .
I'm not even condemning people who do so because I believe there are people who do so and are doing relatively very well in it without much stress and hassle and people like that will tell you so much about letting artificial intelligence do the work for them. In general, I will never leave my bets to an artificial intelligence to do my sourcing for me.

It would be better if that person could look for other sources of information from elsewhere so that the information from AI and the sources of information we find can support our analysis and we can choose the right team. This will give us more information, especially if AI technology can find different information sources than we find. We also don't know if anyone has invented AI technology like that or if further research is needed. Still, we can wait until there are newer announcements from developers working with AI technology.

We can only speculate and assume that AI can perform things like that, it's possible that updates can provide more detailed information about the event that will take place, but still there are factors that can't be accurately be predicted just by using data that AI will able to collect and provide, there are factors outside that data that may affect the outcome of the game.

injuries and all those human errors can't be added if things happened during the game.

For now, AI technology still has limitations in collecting more accurate data. Still, it can compensate for these deficiencies along with technological developments in artificial intelligence. And developers are increasingly motivated to develop AI technology that is better than now so that people can use AI technology properly in the future. The development of AI has begun to be seen but doesn't seem to have led to the gambling industry because this technology is still being tested first to see how people react and how far AI technology has developed.

[Blitzboy]

I really don't think I will leave my bets to an artificial intelligence to do my sourcing for me and I will rather do copy gambling rather than leave my bets to artificial intelligence to do them for me .
I'm not even condemning people who do so because I believe there are people who do so and are doing relatively very well in it without much stress and hassle and people like that will tell you so much about letting artificial intelligence do the work for them. In general, I will never leave my bets to an artificial intelligence to do my sourcing for me.

It's scary at first but if you already tested it for a long time and it works almost perfect like it can give more wins than losses then why not? Using them saves you time for researching if what teams are going to do well. Copying other gamblers is I think no different to this because you are still relying into someone or something else and are you sure that those gamblers manually studying their picks carefully?

What if they are only playing for fun that time and also some of them are using AI. We are still not sure about their future. Maybe the time will come that they will get banned so it's always better to have a back up plan than totally depending on them.

I completely agree with you that using AI exclusively at first may seem terrifying, but it all comes down to how much faith you have in the technology. Why not try it out if the AI has been tested extensively and has demonstrated to provide more wins than losses? However, it's equally crucial to have a fallback strategy in place in case anything goes wrong.

Regarding imitating other gamblers, I also agree with you. Is there any doubt in your mind that those gamblers are carefully considering their picks? What if they are only utilizing AI for entertainment purposes? Always be prepared for the worst and don't rely only on others.

When placing bets, I believe it's a wonderful idea to use both research and technology. You can make better judgments by combining your own research with the insights offered by AI. Finding the balance that works best for you is key.

However, I believe it might be dangerous to make all of your betting judgments using artificial intelligence. AI may provide insightful data, but it's still crucial to understand the game and the competing teams. AI may not always consider important elements that might affect a game's result, such as team morale, recent injuries, or other important elements.

I think it's crucial to approach betting with a well-rounded strategy, making use of both your own knowledge and the technologies at your disposal. By doing this, you may take into consideration a range of elements while making judgments and not simply depend on AI or other gamblers.

[Fredomago]

I really don't think I will leave my bets to an artificial intelligence to do my sourcing for me and I will rather do copy gambling rather than leave my bets to artificial intelligence to do them for me .
I'm not even condemning people who do so because I believe there are people who do so and are doing relatively very well in it without much stress and hassle and people like that will tell you so much about letting artificial intelligence do the work for them. In general, I will never leave my bets to an artificial intelligence to do my sourcing for me.

It would be better if that person could look for other sources of information from elsewhere so that the information from AI and the sources of information we find can support our analysis and we can choose the right team. This will give us more information, especially if AI technology can find different information sources than we find. We also don't know if anyone has invented AI technology like that or if further research is needed. Still, we can wait until there are newer announcements from developers working with AI technology.

We can only speculate and assume that AI can perform things like that, it's possible that updates can provide more detailed information about the event that will take place, but still there are factors that can't be accurately be predicted just by using data that AI will able to collect and provide, there are factors outside that data that may affect the outcome of the game.

injuries and all those human errors can't be added if things happened during the game.

For now, AI technology still has limitations in collecting more accurate data. Still, it can compensate for these deficiencies along with technological developments in artificial intelligence. And developers are increasingly motivated to develop AI technology that is better than now so that people can use AI technology properly in the future. The development of AI has begun to be seen but doesn't seem to have led to the gambling industry because this technology is still being tested first to see how people react and how far AI technology has developed.

As long as there are usages AI technology will proceed maybe we won't much in terms of gambling integrations but we really don't know where this technology will be heading, more success venue means more explorations to expect from the team, and I'm assuming that there are people who will try to take advantage of how AI will be work well with gambling industry.

There might be future updates in regard to how the adoptions will take place and how people around will embrace this new technology for the betterment and the advantages of their ventures.

[len01]

As long as there are usages AI technology will proceed maybe we won't much in terms of gambling integrations but we really don't know where this technology will be heading, more success venue means more explorations to expect from the team, and I'm assuming that there are people who will try to take advantage of how AI will be work well with gambling industry.

There might be future updates in regard to how the adoptions will take place and how people around will embrace this new technology for the betterment and the advantages of their ventures.

currently advanced technology is improving and there are always updates to continue to improve technologies such as AI used in gambling. surely sometime in the future, more gamblers will adopt using AI to predict their bets. because companies that develop in the field of advanced technology such as AI will always improve for the sake of the company's progress.
considering that we are currently in the popularity of online gambling which is used in almost all countries and surely one day AI will be needed to predict the results of bets on gambling.

[BenCodie]

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Specifically, AI can only predict the outcome of a game based on data and statistics from previous events that occurred in that manner. Even though it is not prone to error in how it is designed to function, it can never be 100% accurate. However, predicting the outcome of a match that is not played within its control is impossible.

Even when given ample data and information about two opposing teams, humans make mistakes. We can't expect AI to outperform them in terms of final results, but it can outperform us in statistical analysis. I disagree with the notion that AI will produce accurate results.

Betting agencies have been using machine learning models to estimate their odds for decades now.

They will continue updating their models with the latest advances in AI, and it will get more accurate over time.

But as we just saw in Qatar 2022, they predicted Brazil to be the winner, but in the end it was Argentina the one who won.

So, just now we have proof that these fantastic AI systems still can get it wrong.

Would using machine learning to create/estimate odds be the same process as actually making the prediction though? Creating the right odds is one thing, but predicting the most likely result, would that be another thing or the same process?

I still haven’t tried this out yet to see how it could work, but I do like all the discussion surrounding it. Personally, I don’t see why using AI would be any different than betting with a newsletter or following someone else’s picks. Who knows, maybe AI would be better. Without trying it out it’s hard to say, but next time I’m messing with ChatGPT I’m definitely going to give it a little test.

Please do it. Maybe you will find a way to circumvent this restriction



but I personally can't imagine how to do it. I think for sports betting you need the latest information about many things that can contribute to the outcome, and if the AI doesn't have access to this information, it can't make the prediction.

(In the picture is the response of ChatGPT to a question about current events).

Took me from page 14 to get to your post. I wonder why they only index information up to such an out-dated time. I guess if it was up to date until the end of 2022, it would be a game changer for this topic.

[nullama]

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Would using machine learning to create/estimate odds be the same process as actually making the prediction though? Creating the right odds is one thing, but predicting the most likely result, would that be another thing or the same process?

Yeah, it's pretty much the same thing.

The odds are basically the estimated probability that each event would occur. The rarer the event, the higher the payout.

So, if a casino estimates those odds wrong, then an AI would be able to spot a difference based on the data available.

It's the same as we do, we can always think along the lines of "That's paying too much for team X, they actually might win this time because of Y".

[bittraffic]

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It's the same thing that's what bookmakers are doing, they pick which one has the high chance of winning and then put the odds which is why their pick is also the favored.  If AI can look at the winning rate and see through the team's abilities and characteristics, the AI may really be able to determine rates in analyzing these data.

The OpenAI is back for use again but I notice it becomes dumb already. Gone are the expectations we hope to see.

[molsewid]

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It's the same thing that's what bookmakers are doing, they pick which one has the high chance of winning and then put the odds which is why their pick is also the favored.  If AI can look at the winning rate and see through the team's abilities and characteristics, the AI may really be able to determine rates in analyzing these data.

The OpenAI is back for use again but I notice it becomes dumb already. Gone are the expectations we hope to see.

We can still wait the improvement of this AI, all AI has its flaws and using AI vs the algorithm of that certain casino is a smart move but then I think this openAI based its result according to the odds that its database will mine? I mean yes you are right if this team gets the number of higher odds then AI will predict that it will be the winner but the accuracy of it?  I'm still doubt to it, there will be some changes along the way.

[Fatunad]

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It's the same thing that's what bookmakers are doing, they pick which one has the high chance of winning and then put the odds which is why their pick is also the favored.  If AI can look at the winning rate and see through the team's abilities and characteristics, the AI may really be able to determine rates in analyzing these data.

The OpenAI is back for use again but I notice it becomes dumb already. Gone are the expectations we hope to see.

We can still wait the improvement of this AI, all AI has its flaws and using AI vs the algorithm of that certain casino is a smart move but then I think this openAI based its result according to the odds that its database will mine? I mean yes you are right if this team gets the number of higher odds then AI will predict that it will be the winner but the accuracy of it?  I'm still doubt to it, there will be some changes along the way.

Now matter how these AI would really be progressing out but still it wont really be that significant on asking it out about on things which are pertaining about on future or something speculative.There's no way that it would really be that sensible for it to be asked out and be relying on what are the things that it would be saying.It would be obviously going for those past events which is normally be stored up into its library which
it would really be that a common approach and response that would be given out.Do we really believe that bookies and betting sites wont really be finding ways to shut it down if
ever it was really that effective?

[Franctoshi]

Technology is good yes, but I think this artificial intelligence AI, is a big threat to human critical thinking and with the way which things are going ,humans will become useless at some point, because we will literally rely on machines to think for us, and at that point, AI will start to replace humans at various levels.

The Bottom line is that, for me there are things we should rely on machines to do and the ones we should do ourselves, I can only get the data from machines (AI) but final decision will be made by me when it comes to placing my bets, I'm the human.

[dunfida]

This is the first I've heard of ChatGPT being used to predict sports. That's funny. I know that animals have been used to predict sports events. Paul the octopus, for example. Paul has predicted football matches 14 times and he's only been wrong twice. So if you want to win at sports betting, get a pet. It will probably make you a lot more money than the AI.

On the time i had read up then i dont really believe at all but on the time i did make out some research then it did really happen.LOL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Octopus

I havent read up the entire  details on how predictions been made by this Octopus which it is surprising that it had been only wrong twice which is something
that proves out that it does work.

For ChatGPT then i doubt that there's someone would be posting up their results on using this thing.

I read Paul's wiki and was surprised about his divination getting 12 out of 14 is quite remarkable, especially since the animal is not exposed to data of the competing team.  I still wonder if it is just a coincidence but 12/14 obviously is not.

AI development today is not good enough for sports prediction or other gambling outcomes.  If you ask it, it will only give you a randomly generated answer.  So better not to trust AI prediction unless you are wasting your bankroll to test the reliability of AI in predicting the outcome of sports betting.

Even myself cant really be able to believe that an animal would be able to have 12/14 good predictions despite that it isnt really that something that you could believe that an animal would be able to do so.
For the current AI trend and hype that we do have now, surprisingly on which people been using it on different ways and methods even into those things which arent really quitely relevant for it to be used.
They would find it sooner or later on whats the relevance and whats the result or outcome on making use of these AI's when it comes to betting or simply make use in gambling.
I dont really see any relevance at all.

[panganib999]

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

Def no, bots or AI use all data available at the moment to predict the result of the game, but as players are only humans (although highly professional ones) they make errors, they can suffer an injury, withdraw, lose temper and many other things which cannot be predicted by a machine, no matter how perfect.

behavior data like that as far as I know can be collected by AI and be used for future reference actually. Small stuff that may not appear big to us like our slightest temper tantrums or whatnot, when taken by an AI, can help it predict our next move. Granted ChatGPT is not that advanced for it to be able to perform feats like this but AI as a whole, is able to do stuff like this even as early as 2014. Predictive Policing, Heat List, all of these use behavioral data, as well as data of other types to determine whether someone could commit a crime in a certain area or not. So it would be unwise really if we are to lowball how big of a chokehold AI already has over us.

[posi]

Technology is good yes, but I think this artificial intelligence AI, is a big threat to human critical thinking and with the way which things are going ,humans will become useless at some point, because we will literally rely on machines to think for us, and at that point, AI will start to replace humans at various levels.

The Bottom line is that, for me there are things we should rely on machines to do and the ones we should do ourselves, I can only get the data from machines (AI) but final decision will be made by me when it comes to placing my bets, I'm the human.

AI is effective but only for the wiser. I don't think any AI can predict the outcome of sports betting accurately. If there were any such tools then online gambling websites would not survive. But yes there may be some AI that is capable of giving probabilistic ideas but betting entirely on AI will definitely result in negative. Sometimes the club-friendly matches are not played with much importance by the players, and sometimes some players may be injured. I don't think it's a worthwhile thing to depend on AI if you don't have good sports-related ideas.

[Sims25]

AI will be able to build models that far surpasses any model that a human can build.

[nullama]

AI will be able to build models that far surpasses any model that a human can build.

Maybe, but the main issue that I see is that AI can create false facts that appear quite legit to the casual reader.

Then, something false gets posted in say wikipedia, and then a big newspaper picks that up, etc. You end up without being able to trust anyone.