[POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes

[Ondekinecakabilirim]

Maybe we don't expect to see AI predicting matches but if that's the case in the future, we can't do anything about it and can only accept it. After all, today's AI technology is not as perfect as desired, so the parties involved still have to work harder to achieve the desired results. Maybe later, AI will provide the probability of opportunities that a competing team can obtain, and it will be up to us how we can choose the team.

Meanwhile, collecting more valid data may still need us because we are the ones who will choose the stakes.

It would be a little absurd to expect artificial intelligence to make predictions about match results. But it can give us some clues. For example, when a team that scores a goal with a counter attack and a team that concedes a goal from a counter attack are matched, it may be enough to give us a warning. I am hopeful for this technology. I think it will help us in all areas. It can also give us some clues about the results of the matches.

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[Merit.s]

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

I haven't thought of this before but I don't think we can rely on AI to give accurate prediction in the sense that the house edge must always win due to their algorithm. If in the nearest future such technology happens to exist,I will give it a trial to know how many percent accuracy it is and to see if it is profitable but if it isn't then I will continue with my own predictions and make research on the games. AI has helped alot in making decisions easy and transparency in football which is welcoming.

[masulum]

I guess AI release the data base on team stats if we talk about on sports betting and it shows the result base on data what it gather. But it doesn't really mean its accurate because still the result will depends on human interaction or execution on the game and even if we call them underdog or their star is out on the game there are still chances that they won the game against to what AI predicted or what we called strong team.

That's right, this kind of AI deals with data, in a simple way to understand, this data will be taken from online crawl data to be used as data provided based on commands from the user. For example, for football, they will provide statistics like head 2 heads and such. This is not to look for who will win, because the match has not yet taken place, so the AI will not provide any predictions.

[shogun47]

Maybe we don't expect to see AI predicting matches but if that's the case in the future, we can't do anything about it and can only accept it. After all, today's AI technology is not as perfect as desired, so the parties involved still have to work harder to achieve the desired results. Maybe later, AI will provide the probability of opportunities that a competing team can obtain, and it will be up to us how we can choose the team.

Meanwhile, collecting more valid data may still need us because we are the ones who will choose the stakes.

We all know, the presence of Al is very helpful for its users. Al can work efficiently and quickly, of course this is very profitable so that it can be used to help us employ him and productivity will increase. Plus, it helps minimize human error.
But in terms of predicting a match result, I still doubt it very much. because, sports cannot be predicted based solely on available statistics or data. each result, will be determined by the players who are competing. that is, anything can happen during a match or a battle is in progress. So, I really doubt if artificial intelligence technology can predict match results, especially if the results are very accurate. apparently, something I still find it hard to believe. but to get the data we need, to find the information we want, AI can be very reliable.

Anything that do connects out with prediction and speculation then i dont see for AI to be that relevant.Yes, it could really depend or rely upon those history of events or what are those numbers or statistics yet information could really be feed up but it wont really be that something that would really be relevant for you to rely if we do speak about future events.There are factors which AI cant be able to
read it up and would able to handle it out.It is called prediction or betting because outcomes and results arent really that something guaranteed.
Also it is really that much better if you do make out decisions on your own.

I can certainly appreciate your point of view, acknowledging the inherent unpredictability of AI. Yet, I posit that we should not underestimate the value that AI brings to the table in terms of prediction and conjecture. With each passing day, AI is honing its skills and refining its algorithms, ultimately resulting in a more nuanced and accurate process. While there is no such thing as a sure thing, utilizing AI in our decision-making can be the difference-maker when it comes to forecasting the future.

I agree with you that AI is improving its skills and algorithms every day. But they are just algorithms. The AI does not take into account the mood of the athletes, their injuries, their physical and mental condition. If you bet on sports, you must take these and many other parameters into account. AI is not able to do that, unlike humans.

AI is not yet able to do that. In the future I am sure that if AI scans the Internet for facts and reports right before a game starts and it says that perhaps a player plays a game after a divorce, I believe that AI will be able to apply a certain discount to the average performance of the player and take that into account when it scores the average expected team performance.

But an enticing thought is what are bookmakers going to do if it turns out that AI might not be 100% accurate of course, but that it can help to significantly reduce error margins for the bettor. I would essentially destroy their business or make in unprofitable. But we are ages away from that I guess. There will always be variance in sports that can't be captured by AI. But that variance is then harder to be exploited for the bettor as well when AI would narrow down the range of variables to those that are closest to 50:50 calls.

[KTChampions]

Yes, you are actually right on that very statement of yours, because I just tried testing if ChatGPT if it can predict future outcome of a football match, and the A.I supply told that it beyond it's power to predict future event or the correct score of a football match, as there are many factors that might affect it's outcome, such as what you mention above (I.e injuries, team performance & weather e.t.c).

I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I am not able to predict the future or provide specific scores for sporting events. Sports matches are unpredictable and can be influenced by various factors such as team performance, injuries, weather, and many other variables. It's best to watch the game and see how it unfolds.

Source: ChatGPT

I wonder to what extent the future is unknown for ChatGTP? In general, all events range from "can't happen" to "will definitely happen". Obviously if you ask "will the sun rise tomorrow" then the answer will be "Yes" and not "I am a language model so I don't know". Probably with sporting events it is possible to get some thoughts from ChatGTP. But it is necessary to correctly formulate questions and not ask what is really impossible to predict.

[RealMalatesta]

Odds are basically predictions. Odds represent probability. So there's really nothing special about AI predictions aside perhaps from the possibility that all the pieces of information fed to it will definitely be made use. Human odds makers could forget or miss a factor or two.

In fact, it is possible that AI's prediction is of lesser accuracy than odds makers' predictions. I am doubting if everything that should be taken into consideration in creating odds could be appreciated by AI. Things like the level of chemistry among players or their comfort playing with each other might not be understood by AI if it hasn't encountered it yet.

I would agree that some oddmakers could miss a thing or two, but not tens of thousands of gamblers, in fact call it over a million people in most bets. And since they all calculate together, when you look at everyone who wagers, eventually every single data is covered, if I miss X but not miss Y, and you miss X but not miss Y, then we together miss nothing.

Why does this matter as gamblers? Because we will end up betting accordingly and then oddmakers will change it based on our bets as well, which will be the odds. So all in all, odds are already telling us what we need to know, and no AI could ever do anything better than that ever, not even with all the data we can feed it.

[carlfebz2]

Odds are basically predictions. Odds represent probability. So there's really nothing special about AI predictions aside perhaps from the possibility that all the pieces of information fed to it will definitely be made use. Human odds makers could forget or miss a factor or two.

In fact, it is possible that AI's prediction is of lesser accuracy than odds makers' predictions. I am doubting if everything that should be taken into consideration in creating odds could be appreciated by AI. Things like the level of chemistry among players or their comfort playing with each other might not be understood by AI if it hasn't encountered it yet.

I would agree that some oddmakers could miss a thing or two, but not tens of thousands of gamblers, in fact call it over a million people in most bets. And since they all calculate together, when you look at everyone who wagers, eventually every single data is covered, if I miss X but not miss Y, and you miss X but not miss Y, then we together miss nothing.

Why does this matter as gamblers? Because we will end up betting accordingly and then oddmakers will change it based on our bets as well, which will be the odds. So all in all, odds are already telling us what we need to know, and no AI could ever do anything better than that ever, not even with all the data we can feed it.

Its one of the main reason on why AI cant really be that precisely able to tell and say on whose gonna win on a particular match up or making it use on your sports betting activity.

There are several factors which humans is always been that superior considering that making up decisions on specific conditions will really be needing only human intervention.

We cant really deny the fact that AI's could really be that useful on particular manners or certain key areas but there are places or things which
using it would be not relevant at all.

[uneng]

Yes, you are actually right on that very statement of yours, because I just tried testing if ChatGPT if it can predict future outcome of a football match, and the A.I supply told that it beyond it's power to predict future event or the correct score of a football match, as there are many factors that might affect it's outcome, such as what you mention above (I.e injuries, team performance & weather e.t.c).

I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I am not able to predict the future or provide specific scores for sporting events. Sports matches are unpredictable and can be influenced by various factors such as team performance, injuries, weather, and many other variables. It's best to watch the game and see how it unfolds.

Source: ChatGPT

I wonder to what extent the future is unknown for ChatGTP? In general, all events range from "can't happen" to "will definitely happen". Obviously if you ask "will the sun rise tomorrow" then the answer will be "Yes" and not "I am a language model so I don't know". Probably with sporting events it is possible to get some thoughts from ChatGTP. But it is necessary to correctly formulate questions and not ask what is really impossible to predict.

Maybe it's possible to have some thoughts when making questions regards each factor in particular which can affect game's result. Like, who is injured in team A? What is the weather forecast for tomorrow in X area? What is the currently winning and loss streak of team B?

Actually, I still doubt the AI has conditions to answer this kind of question accurately right now, but in some updates from now on I guess it will be pretty possible.

Anyway, be careful with ChatGPT. It has already given me many wrong replies, misunderstanding people's names and what they did.

[Casdinyard]

Yes, you are actually right on that very statement of yours, because I just tried testing if ChatGPT if it can predict future outcome of a football match, and the A.I supply told that it beyond it's power to predict future event or the correct score of a football match, as there are many factors that might affect it's outcome, such as what you mention above (I.e injuries, team performance & weather e.t.c).

I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I am not able to predict the future or provide specific scores for sporting events. Sports matches are unpredictable and can be influenced by various factors such as team performance, injuries, weather, and many other variables. It's best to watch the game and see how it unfolds.

Source: ChatGPT

I wonder to what extent the future is unknown for ChatGTP? In general, all events range from "can't happen" to "will definitely happen". Obviously if you ask "will the sun rise tomorrow" then the answer will be "Yes" and not "I am a language model so I don't know". Probably with sporting events it is possible to get some thoughts from ChatGTP. But it is necessary to correctly formulate questions and not ask what is really impossible to predict.

The language model only covers data up until sometime in 2021. So data that would go further than said year would be beyond ChatGPT's means. There's also the case of stuff that it has no power over knowing because data about it is really nonexistent, like asking it what is the quotient of 0/0. I reckon and I tried this quite a few times already, that ChatGPT could still provide game stats for people who are really looking to use it as a form of prediction tool to know game outcomes before the match begins, but it is also worth noting that these data are fairly outdate and may not really mean shit in the grand scale of things, but oh well, If you're doing it for the kicks might as well go for it, but as long as openai is stuck with ChatGPt and its outdated sources, you can't really use it for game predictions.

[KTChampions]

I wonder to what extent the future is unknown for ChatGTP? In general, all events range from "can't happen" to "will definitely happen". Obviously if you ask "will the sun rise tomorrow" then the answer will be "Yes" and not "I am a language model so I don't know". Probably with sporting events it is possible to get some thoughts from ChatGTP. But it is necessary to correctly formulate questions and not ask what is really impossible to predict.

Maybe it's possible to have some thoughts when making questions regards each factor in particular which can affect game's result. Like, who is injured in team A? What is the weather forecast for tomorrow in X area? What is the currently winning and loss streak of team B?

Actually, I still doubt the AI has conditions to answer this kind of question accurately right now, but in some updates from now on I guess it will be pretty possible.

Anyway, be careful with ChatGPT. It has already given me many wrong replies, misunderstanding people's names and what they did.

I think more general questions can be asked. Of course, not such as "what will be the score in the game City - Newcastle", but for example "what is the probability of a draw in the game City - Newcastle". I see no reason why ChatGTP cannot, by checking publicly available statistics, give at least a range of their assumptions. And in the future, I am sure such tools will give more and more accurate answers.

The language model only covers data up until sometime in 2021. So data that would go further than said year would be beyond ChatGPT's means. There's also the case of stuff that it has no power over knowing because data about it is really nonexistent, like asking it what is the quotient of 0/0. I reckon and I tried this quite a few times already, that ChatGPT could still provide game stats for people who are really looking to use it as a form of prediction tool to know game outcomes before the match begins, but it is also worth noting that these data are fairly outdate and may not really mean shit in the grand scale of things, but oh well, If you're doing it for the kicks might as well go for it, but as long as openai is stuck with ChatGPt and its outdated sources, you can't really use it for game predictions.

Thanks for the details, I didn't know that. But these are, let's say, "temporary" problems. The tool will undoubtedly improve and in a year or two it will search for (and, most importantly, systematize) information faster than people.

[Fredomago]

Odds are basically predictions. Odds represent probability. So there's really nothing special about AI predictions aside perhaps from the possibility that all the pieces of information fed to it will definitely be made use. Human odds makers could forget or miss a factor or two.

In fact, it is possible that AI's prediction is of lesser accuracy than odds makers' predictions. I am doubting if everything that should be taken into consideration in creating odds could be appreciated by AI. Things like the level of chemistry among players or their comfort playing with each other might not be understood by AI if it hasn't encountered it yet.

I would agree that some oddmakers could miss a thing or two, but not tens of thousands of gamblers, in fact call it over a million people in most bets. And since they all calculate together, when you look at everyone who wagers, eventually every single data is covered, if I miss X but not miss Y, and you miss X but not miss Y, then we together miss nothing.

Why does this matter as gamblers? Because we will end up betting accordingly and then oddmakers will change it based on our bets as well, which will be the odds. So all in all, odds are already telling us what we need to know, and no AI could ever do anything better than that ever, not even with all the data we can feed it.

Its one of the main reason on why AI cant really be that precisely able to tell and say on whose gonna win on a particular match up or making it use on your sports betting activity.

There are several factors which humans is always been that superior considering that making up decisions on specific conditions will really be needing only human intervention.

We cant really deny the fact that AI's could really be that useful on particular manners or certain key areas but there are places or things which
using it would be not relevant at all.

Indeed! there are functions that AI can bring good insight but there are also limitation where it's needed a human intervention which superior to what AI can provide, I might say that using this system to enhance your chance is possible but relying everything on it is something that human needs to think deeper.

You can always find something relevant to how AI will provide you the answer, then use your own knowledge to adopt and make a good use of this information.

[ethereumhunter]

Maybe we don't expect to see AI predicting matches but if that's the case in the future, we can't do anything about it and can only accept it. After all, today's AI technology is not as perfect as desired, so the parties involved still have to work harder to achieve the desired results. Maybe later, AI will provide the probability of opportunities that a competing team can obtain, and it will be up to us how we can choose the team.

Meanwhile, collecting more valid data may still need us because we are the ones who will choose the stakes.

It would be a little absurd to expect artificial intelligence to make predictions about match results. But it can give us some clues. For example, when a team that scores a goal with a counter attack and a team that concedes a goal from a counter attack are matched, it may be enough to give us a warning. I am hopeful for this technology. I think it will help us in all areas. It can also give us some clues about the results of the matches.

It doesn't make sense for those of us who haven't seen the development of AI now. But we also have to think about how the times will progress in the future because from now on, technological developments will develop very quickly. Moreover, we've seen how ChatGPT can become a business rival to what already exists and make some developers prepare new strategies to deal with AI.

We will only be given the percentage chances of each team and the possibility of winning for one team. But the result is that AI still can't guess who will win because AI works and provides info based on what they get from many sources.

[noormcs5]

I agree with you that AI is improving its skills and algorithms every day. But they are just algorithms. The AI does not take into account the mood of the athletes, their injuries, their physical and mental condition. If you bet on sports, you must take these and many other parameters into account. AI is not able to do that, unlike humans.

Artificial Intelligence just have the old data with them and they take decision basis of that data. AI does not have real time data and therefore it is not possible to predict accurately  the outcome of the matches.
However, the amount of data which AI can process is beyond the capability of a human and therefore we can take help from AI predictions and also do some our own research on the current data / situation to refine that outcome.

[BobK71]

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

I haven't thought of this before but I don't think we can rely on AI to give accurate prediction in the sense that the house edge must always win due to their algorithm. If in the nearest future such technology happens to exist,I will give it a trial to know how many percent accuracy it is and to see if it is profitable but if it isn't then I will continue with my own predictions and make research on the games. AI has helped alot in making decisions easy and transparency in football which is welcoming.

We know that AI basically provides an information depending on the data base. It should never be relied upon completely. I wanted to know about a recent match but the information they provide me that was 1 year ago. Then I realized that they need sometimes to update the latest happenings. So I think it is better to take AI help but should be review it with own intelligence. Generally the information provided by AI is authentic and trustworthy. At present, people are greatly benefited by its use.

[temple]

Yes, you are actually right on that very statement of yours, because I just tried testing if ChatGPT if it can predict future outcome of a football match, and the A.I supply told that it beyond it's power to predict future event or the correct score of a football match, as there are many factors that might affect it's outcome, such as what you mention above (I.e injuries, team performance & weather e.t.c).

I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I am not able to predict the future or provide specific scores for sporting events. Sports matches are unpredictable and can be influenced by various factors such as team performance, injuries, weather, and many other variables. It's best to watch the game and see how it unfolds.

Source: ChatGPT

I wonder to what extent the future is unknown for ChatGTP? In general, all events range from "can't happen" to "will definitely happen". Obviously if you ask "will the sun rise tomorrow" then the answer will be "Yes" and not "I am a language model so I don't know". Probably with sporting events it is possible to get some thoughts from ChatGTP. But it is necessary to correctly formulate questions and not ask what is really impossible to predict.

When I came across this post I thought I just have to give it a try and see what happens when ChatGPT is asked whether the sun will rise tomorrow!



@KTChampions you could have known better, it is only "with a high degree of confidence"! Admittedly, we are stuck now. We can't prove ChatGPT wrong. AI won.

But frankly speaking, I thought as well that ChatGPT will come up with a different answer, a more definitive answer.

[Betwrong]

I tried to force ChatGPT to make a prediction about the past, or, a retrodiction, if you speak scientifically. Here's the result:



I think it kinda gives us an impression on how ChatGPT would be predicting the future events if it were connected to the internet today and its database was updating on a daily basis.

[QueenVera]

Maybe we don't expect to see AI predicting matches but if that's the case in the future, we can't do anything about it and can only accept it. After all, today's AI technology is not as perfect as desired, so the parties involved still have to work harder to achieve the desired results. Maybe later, AI will provide the probability of opportunities that a competing team can obtain, and it will be up to us how we can choose the team.

Meanwhile, collecting more valid data may still need us because we are the ones who will choose the stakes.

It would be a little absurd to expect artificial intelligence to make predictions about match results. But it can give us some clues. For example, when a team that scores a goal with a counter attack and a team that concedes a goal from a counter attack are matched, it may be enough to give us a warning. I am hopeful for this technology. I think it will help us in all areas. It can also give us some clues about the results of the matches.

It wouldn't be an easy one for me trusting an AI for predictions when I know I can do better if I concentrate and beside I really don't see me trusting an AI anytime soon no matter the proficiency and accuracy it might present and I'm also sure that there are several factors to consider when staking a game or making predictions and most times this factors are bridged and an AI might easily get compromised if invected, hence I will rather do things myself than have AI do them for me.
And it will be great having AI do an excellent job sibec it will help in several ways.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Predicting future outcomes is something that can't be done by humans, animals or machines and it will never be. AIs can thinking about possibilities, just like humans, but accuracy is never going to be a guarantee. But it's not unsual that AIs are being promoted as a safe tool for betting, because there are developers who earn money with this, just like trading bots developers and every other professionals working inside the clairvoyance industry, including the esoteric ones.

AI can make attempts on future predictions. This machines are feed with sample datas and they are made to learn from past events which aid this bots  make predictions based on what they learn from the models they are been trained on. AI is rapidly increasing. They might get their predictions wrong in few cases but definitely their guesses will be far better than those of human thinking.

If basing from with data then yes it can be more better than human analysis, there are things that human can ruined their bets, emotions and out of control decision making, you might have a better chance if you will allow AI to bring good data then run it from the system to pick the closes winning pick then check and base everything with how AI provided information about the selected pick.

The last part is for you to judge whether the pick is good or you needed to have more info before taking the risk of betting with the one being provided.

An AI is obviously to help human beings since an AI learns in a short time, it must also be taken into account that now this AI thing is booming, I see it as a trend, most people only talk about AI and its scope.

The AI is in the development stage, we cannot completely trust an AI, much less its detectors, because how can they determine if it is AI? as? The only way I see AI detectors can be trusted is if they give the same results in at least 10 known detectors and also if they have advanced anti-plagiarism development. Even so, I think that our intelligence is still an irreplaceable option because it has other elements associated with it, such as emotions, something that no AI can feel..

[Fatunad]

Maybe we don't expect to see AI predicting matches but if that's the case in the future, we can't do anything about it and can only accept it. After all, today's AI technology is not as perfect as desired, so the parties involved still have to work harder to achieve the desired results. Maybe later, AI will provide the probability of opportunities that a competing team can obtain, and it will be up to us how we can choose the team.

Meanwhile, collecting more valid data may still need us because we are the ones who will choose the stakes.

It would be a little absurd to expect artificial intelligence to make predictions about match results. But it can give us some clues. For example, when a team that scores a goal with a counter attack and a team that concedes a goal from a counter attack are matched, it may be enough to give us a warning. I am hopeful for this technology. I think it will help us in all areas. It can also give us some clues about the results of the matches.

It wouldn't be an easy one for me trusting an AI for predictions when I know I can do better if I concentrate and beside I really don't see me trusting an AI anytime soon no matter the proficiency and accuracy it might present and I'm also sure that there are several factors to consider when staking a game or making predictions and most times this factors are bridged and an AI might easily get compromised if invected, hence I will rather do things myself than have AI do them for me.
And it will be great having AI do an excellent job sibec it will help in several ways.

Not really at all if we do speak about reliability because even how much information that it could have but still human beings are still far superior when it comes to decision making. We do know that there are things which aren't really that  something could be predicted out by an AI no matter how advanced it would be.Predictions and future events isn't something that no one could ever able to know it out.Also it wont really be that enjoyable if you are really that making use of something out of your prediction or really that you are relying on something which you dont even be sure that it is really that useful or really that worth on considering on.Also it wont really be that recommended but if  you are really that insisting that this one do really works then it would really be depending on you but sooner or later you would realize on whats
the real deal with this one.

[livingfree]

An AI is obviously to help human beings since an AI learns in a short time, it must also be taken into account that now this AI thing is booming, I see it as a trend, most people only talk about AI and its scope.

The AI is in the development stage, we cannot completely trust an AI, much less its detectors, because how can they determine if it is AI? as? The only way I see AI detectors can be trusted is if they give the same results in at least 10 known detectors and also if they have advanced anti-plagiarism development. Even so, I think that our intelligence is still an irreplaceable option because it has other elements associated with it, such as emotions, something that no AI can feel..

Regards to gambling, there's no doubt that human intelligence is still the best thing to rely on.

You can't just ask an AI that haven't gambled yet but soon we might see these developers start to include that with AI activities and they'll gamble on their own.

As you've mentioned, it's still learning and soon everything we do including gambling, they'll also have time to cover that with whatever is gonna be asked on them. We'll never know if that time comes, it could be scary or not.