[POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes

[nullama]

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Agree to that, once it happen it happened and those who are believers will continue to follow those predictions as they will choose to pick winning side to remember and left the winning side to forge, I mean if AI developers will manage to bring something to the table and it happens that the predictions came true then expect that people will keep on eye with that services, while if that AI failed then those who thinks that it was true will forget about it and move on to another project,.

The thing is that if you have enough predicting services, some of them will be right. At least once.

But then at the next event they might get it wrong. But other company might get it right and get all the attention.

Then suddenly one company gets lucky, and gets a lot of events right. They would get a lot of attention.

Remember that people follow predicting animals like Paul the octopus, so people following an AI is basically not far from that.

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[Fredomago]

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Agree to that, once it happen it happened and those who are believers will continue to follow those predictions as they will choose to pick winning side to remember and left the winning side to forge, I mean if AI developers will manage to bring something to the table and it happens that the predictions came true then expect that people will keep on eye with that services, while if that AI failed then those who thinks that it was true will forget about it and move on to another project,.

The thing is that if you have enough predicting services, some of them will be right. At least once.

But then at the next event they might get it wrong. But other company might get it right and get all the attention.

Then suddenly one company gets lucky, and gets a lot of events right. They would get a lot of attention.

Remember that people follow predicting animals like Paul the octopus, so people following an AI is basically not far from that.

Nothing but to agree as there are gamblers/people that will continue to believe with how the outcome will take, people who are aiming for good opportunities, once they felt that there's something good with the predictions and the outcome will favor them they will blindly follow it and will try everything earn that advantage and enjoy the benefits.

If the kind of AI will provide a decent outcome, we will see more and more end users that will use the services and follow it
for their betting practices.

[Fesatmas]

Sports betting is the first type of betting that I did and initially I only bet directly with a few people in my surroundings, such as relatives or just friends.
After getting to know the new crypto casino I became an active bettor and almost every match I participated in but never before have I used other people's predictions or predictions from artificial intelligence like al.
Belief in personal predictions is a priority, I have never trusted anyone or artificial intelligence in using predictions when betting.
Trusting the predictions given by other parties is tantamount to me taking a chance of defeat and this happened because there was no confidence in predictions that were not made by me.

Yes, of course it is the best decision in making your predictions to determine the outcome bets from the analysis you made before, but why are people starting to consider AI as a tool to make their predictions and/or adjust to the predictions that have been made so that they refer to corroborating conclusions? or reverse direction, using AI is not just for most people here to determine their bets in my opinion, it's just possible because AI can provide the explanation we ask for something we don't understand so many people try it to test whether AI can predict correctly, and how accurate the predictions are. maybe like that I guess.

[nullama]

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Nothing but to agree as there are gamblers/people that will continue to believe with how the outcome will take, people who are aiming for good opportunities, once they felt that there's something good with the predictions and the outcome will favor them they will blindly follow it and will try everything earn that advantage and enjoy the benefits.

If the kind of AI will provide a decent outcome, we will see more and more end users that will use the services and follow it
for their betting practices.

It might end up being something like the weather forecast.

I could see a future in which we will have a small section in the news with the latest AI forecasts for events that are coming. And then sometimes it will be right and sometimes it will be wrong, just like the weather. Even though weather is a chaotic system so it's really hard to predict, maybe other realms would be easier to predict.

[o48o]

Now that chatgpt4 can access to net, the whole system is on a different level. Now you definitely can have an edge. If you are not trusting the AI, you can just ask pointers from it. Like compile information from any data found from the internet. That makes the whole prediction more accurate when you can access to data that almost feels like inside information. And you don't have to have any knowledge about anything. You can just compare the data and make decision.

And best part is. You don't even need to do that manually if you don't want. ChatGPT4 can run programs. That's right. You could just set it up to make bets for you. I am pretty sure someone somewhere is already selling this service forward.

[Fredomago]

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Nothing but to agree as there are gamblers/people that will continue to believe with how the outcome will take, people who are aiming for good opportunities, once they felt that there's something good with the predictions and the outcome will favor them they will blindly follow it and will try everything earn that advantage and enjoy the benefits.

If the kind of AI will provide a decent outcome, we will see more and more end users that will use the services and follow it
for their betting practices.

It might end up being something like the weather forecast.

I could see a future in which we will have a small section in the news with the latest AI forecasts for events that are coming. And then sometimes it will be right and sometimes it will be wrong, just like the weather. Even though weather is a chaotic system so it's really hard to predict, maybe other realms would be easier to predict.

Sometimes it will be right but most of it are not hahaha, but kidding aside it's true that there are chances that it will provide good forecast and it will happen to your favor but you should always be careful and not completely lean on it but more on continuing in doing your research and use every platforms and system that may help to increase your chances of winning.

AI might provide good numbers things that you can use to solidify your decision making, but the end point is you still decide accordingly.

[death69]

now the Al phenomenon has become a hot topic of conversation anywhere, including in our community. in fact, some others link this artificial intelligence to gambling. there are some examples from other threads covering the same discussion. and shared a video link, which attempts to combine Al with a bot to predict the outcome of a game.
To be honest I'm not sure this will work efficiently, because there are many factors that we can debate and discuss. but the development of Al seems to be growing rapidly, because it is very useful for us to make work easier. which in the end, we can never stop the development and sophistication of technology in the future. whether it is useful for gambling, or for people who like this artificial intelligence technology.

AI is without a doubt one of the most hyped technological advancements of today's era, and the hype is not fake or created deliberately to promote some AI products, but it is because some of the AI models or products have gained significant success in a very short span of time, naming ChatGPT as an example would be wrong in this regard.

Gaining 1 million users in a span of 5 days isn't something normal, and ChatGPT achieved that feat which is why I say that AI earned the hype and that is the reason why it's being discussed almost everywhere. And if we think about it, it's only the starting phase of it, imagine what would happen once it improves significantly in the future.

Ah, AI's potential in the betting arena? Very very immense! No wonder, as it can dissect massive data sets in a heartbeat, equipping casinos and bookies with deeper insights into odds, probabilities, customer behavior, and tastes.

Fraud detection? Prevention? AI's already acing that game! Scrutinizing colossal data volumes, pinpointing patterns, and oddities—AI-empowered systems detect potential cheating or fraud, saving the gambling industry millions.

AI's next conquest? Revolutionizing client engagement and experience. Analyzing client data and predilections, AI crafts personalized experiences, bolstering loyalty and spurring revenue growth for casinos and sportsbooks.

[Betwrong]

~ I mean if AI developers will manage to bring something to the table and it happens that the predictions came true then expect that people will keep on eye with that services, while if that AI failed then those who thinks that it was true will forget about it and move on to another project,.

Nothing is perfect, and people know it. So, I don't think just one mistake in predictions will make gamblers move on to another project. And actually, what's great about the whole thing is that you don't have to move anywhere. You can use all of them several advanced AIs simultaneously, and only after dozens of tries you may decide to prefer one over the others. I can't wait when it becomes reality, and I feel like it is the matter of several weeks.

[dezoel]

of course it is the best decision in making your predictions to determine the outcome bets from the analysis you made before, but why are people starting to consider AI as a tool to make their predictions and/or adjust to the predictions that have been made so that they refer to corroborating conclusions? or reverse direction, using AI is not just for most people here to determine their bets in my opinion, it's just possible because AI can provide the explanation we ask for something we don't understand so many people try it to test whether AI can predict correctly, and how accurate the predictions are. maybe like that I guess.

There can only be two reasons why someone would want to use AI to research and predict the outcome of a game they are willing to bet on for them, the first reason probably is to get an easy and guaranteed win, and the other reason could be the laziness for not doing the research and analysis themselves as it can be a time-consuming and tiresome process.

But no matter what people want, the thing that matters is what the reality is, and the reality is that AI isn't really up to the mark to do this task for now, so no matter how much someone wishes to have an AI do their work, they will have to do it themselves if they want to be able to win.

[stomachgrowls]

of course it is the best decision in making your predictions to determine the outcome bets from the analysis you made before, but why are people starting to consider AI as a tool to make their predictions and/or adjust to the predictions that have been made so that they refer to corroborating conclusions? or reverse direction, using AI is not just for most people here to determine their bets in my opinion, it's just possible because AI can provide the explanation we ask for something we don't understand so many people try it to test whether AI can predict correctly, and how accurate the predictions are. maybe like that I guess.

There can only be two reasons why someone would want to use AI to research and predict the outcome of a game they are willing to bet on for them, the first reason probably is to get an easy and guaranteed win, and the other reason could be the laziness for not doing the research and analysis themselves as it can be a time-consuming and tiresome process.

But no matter what people want, the thing that matters is what the reality is, and the reality is that AI isn't really up to the mark to do this task for now, so no matter how much someone wishes to have an AI do their work, they will have to do it themselves if they want to be able to win.

You know that there are really people who would really be doing on whatever things that possible could give out higher chances of winning on which it would be no shocking that AI would really be considered out.

We do know that using up AI on predicting outcomes? Yes, they could give out those significant information on various subjects but speaking literally on knowing the outcome then its impossible.

There's no way for an AI to know on what would be the outcome of a certain match or whatsoever.Lots of factors which would be affecting outcome is something that could
influenced it and this is why its really hard to give out that 100% sure win.

[goinmerry]

But no matter what people want, the thing that matters is what the reality is, and the reality is that AI isn't really up to the mark to do this task for now, so no matter how much someone wishes to have an AI do their work, they will have to do it themselves if they want to be able to win.

I might partially disagree. AI technology is really insane that they can do anything now that humans can't even do.

The AI technology really improve nowadays and guess what, being used now at some industries.

Soon, there will be a time that companies will only rely on AI for such minor tasks.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Getting your sentiment with that last statement, sometimes, that emotions leads us to failure and those who understand well on how to use artificial intelligence knew that with emotionless gambling/trading or anything that related to something that might affects our fears should not be used while you are into the kind of business.

Lesser risk if you allow your future goal to take place. As long as you are willing to take the risk and know how to wait till your set target will be hit, AI is useful on that kind of matter.

Well in part, as I have said in previous posts, they are things or tools that are currently available for trading, what happens is that people believe that when there is a tool or indicator it is to use it and win at once, that is something impossible, You have to have the corresponding analysis to know how to use the indicators or whatever you want, but the human analysis for me is still superior, in the game it is something else, there will always be the factor of randomness and that is what makes the difference, without However, I know that many AIs are specialized for trading and games, but it is not reliable, I would not recommend it.

For now, maybe Ais are not reliable yet. But there could be a time that its development will be working. There used to be just some codes for it but now there is the hardware that will execute what AIs are trying to do, it's continuous development.

It still that human analysis will also be used by AIs to predetermine outcomes so it's not at all AI starting to analyze from scratch. most likely they will be data from the bookies as well which that randomness will also exist.

Well, I do not rule out that in the future AIs will dominate the world the most, in fact there is talk that a government can be managed by an AI, in part it would be something new, but it is also scary because something like that would be like an apocalypse, seeing it from that point of view because those who do not like the control of a government will not like it at all to be controlled by a machine with Some conscience, besides that it would be managed by something that is not human, all those films that are futuristic that show those things, it's incredible but I see them as possible, in the case of the game there will come a time when the AI will be able to make good bets and win.

[Fredomago]

But no matter what people want, the thing that matters is what the reality is, and the reality is that AI isn't really up to the mark to do this task for now, so no matter how much someone wishes to have an AI do their work, they will have to do it themselves if they want to be able to win.

I might partially disagree. AI technology is really insane that they can do anything now that humans can't even do.

The AI technology really improve nowadays and guess what, being used now at some industries.

Soon, there will be a time that companies will only rely on AI for such minor tasks.

That's really a possibility. We might see more companies that will use AI services to do small tasks and allow the system to work with their business. So far in the topic, maybe there are gamblers who will continue to work with some possible advantages that they can get from AI, especially those information that might really be a factor that might affect the outcome of the game.

Getting your sentiment with that last statement, sometimes, that emotions leads us to failure and those who understand well on how to use artificial intelligence knew that with emotionless gambling/trading or anything that related to something that might affects our fears should not be used while you are into the kind of business.

Lesser risk if you allow your future goal to take place. As long as you are willing to take the risk and know how to wait till your set target will be hit, AI is useful on that kind of matter.

Well in part, as I have said in previous posts, they are things or tools that are currently available for trading, what happens is that people believe that when there is a tool or indicator it is to use it and win at once, that is something impossible, You have to have the corresponding analysis to know how to use the indicators or whatever you want, but the human analysis for me is still superior, in the game it is something else, there will always be the factor of randomness and that is what makes the difference, without However, I know that many AIs are specialized for trading and games, but it is not reliable, I would not recommend it.

For now, maybe Ais are not reliable yet. But there could be a time that its development will be working. There used to be just some codes for it but now there is the hardware that will execute what AIs are trying to do, it's continuous development.

It still that human analysis will also be used by AIs to predetermine outcomes so it's not at all AI starting to analyze from scratch. most likely they will be data from the bookies as well which that randomness will also exist.

Well, I do not rule out that in the future AIs will dominate the world the most, in fact there is talk that a government can be managed by an AI, in part it would be something new, but it is also scary because something like that would be like an apocalypse, seeing it from that point of view because those who do not like the control of a government will not like it at all to be controlled by a machine with Some conscience, besides that it would be managed by something that is not human, all those films that are futuristic that show those things, it's incredible but I see them as possible, in the case of the game there will come a time when the AI will be able to make good bets and win.

Who knows, right? But for now we can only assume and provide our opinions but in reality we may or we may not be experienced that far and human will still in control (hopefully) in terms of betting who won't love to see that to happen, I mean if AI can predict in a much better accuracy for sure many will use it, but in my opinion on this, gambling is a business for sure admin and owners will adjust to prevent being a cash cows of the gamblers.

[wiss19]

But no matter what people want, the thing that matters is what the reality is, and the reality is that AI isn't really up to the mark to do this task for now, so no matter how much someone wishes to have an AI do their work, they will have to do it themselves if they want to be able to win.

I might partially disagree. AI technology is really insane that they can do anything now that humans can't even do.

The AI technology really improve nowadays and guess what, being used now at some industries.

Soon, there will be a time that companies will only rely on AI for such minor tasks.

There is definitely no doubt that AI is a powerful technology that has got the ability to do a whole lot of things that humans can either not do or do very slowly, and no one can deny the fact that AI is being utilized in a lot of industries for a lot of operations that it can easily do and make things look more perfect and on the track.

But, when it comes to sports betting, there are some minor things that the AI cannot see or know if they happen all of a sudden. Let me give you an example, let's suppose there is a football match coming up, there are always some favorite and best players in teams that the teams mostly rely on, and, imagine that the favorite side's best player picks up an injury before the match and isn't included in the squad. Now, the news spreads pretty fast and humans can find out, but how would AI know that unless it is available as a data source to them? And the whole result of the game can be changed just by this thing. Hence, AI isn't perfect for this at least for now, we can't say anything for the future.

[RealMalatesta]

AI's potential in the betting arena? Very very immense! No wonder, as it can dissect massive data sets in a heartbeat, equipping casinos and bookies with deeper insights into odds, probabilities, customer behavior, and tastes.

Fraud detection? Prevention? AI's already acing that game! Scrutinizing colossal data volumes, pinpointing patterns, and oddities—AI-empowered systems detect potential cheating or fraud, saving the gambling industry millions.

AI's next conquest? Revolutionizing client engagement and experience. Analyzing client data and predilections, AI crafts personalized experiences, bolstering loyalty and spurring revenue growth for casinos and sportsbooks.

I think you are overestimating the fact that AI can somehow manage to figure out the random. Random is random and that can't be figured out, there is no way, and if you are a casino then you can use AI for your benefit, but if you are a gambler there is no way that you can use it for your benefit at all, it would not be working properly at all.

I hope that people would be doing something that could benefit them in the long run with AI, like even medical stuff which could be pretty good, but obviously there is a big question mark of should it even be responsible for it. But the help would always be welcomed but when it comes to gambling? I do not think so.

[nullama]

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I think you are overestimating the fact that AI can somehow manage to figure out the random. Random is random and that can't be figured out, there is no way, and if you are a casino then you can use AI for your benefit, but if you are a gambler there is no way that you can use it for your benefit at all, it would not be working properly at all.

I hope that people would be doing something that could benefit them in the long run with AI, like even medical stuff which could be pretty good, but obviously there is a big question mark of should it even be responsible for it. But the help would always be welcomed but when it comes to gambling? I do not think so.

Well, it all depends on what you are measuring, and the data available.

For example, if you throw a dice there's one out of six chances that a number 6 appears. That's because you don't know anything about the dice, but in reality the more you know, the closer and better probabilities you can calculate. Maybe that particular dice is loaded, and maybe you know how it's being thrown, the environment, etc, the more you know, the better prediction you can get, and maybe you know that in that particular case the chances of getting a 6 are more like 50% instead of 1 out of 6.

So, random is completely random when you don't know any better, but if you do know more information you can definitely reduce the noise and get a better estimate.

[Slow death]

But no matter what people want, the thing that matters is what the reality is, and the reality is that AI isn't really up to the mark to do this task for now, so no matter how much someone wishes to have an AI do their work, they will have to do it themselves if they want to be able to win.

I might partially disagree. AI technology is really insane that they can do anything now that humans can't even do.

The AI technology really improve nowadays and guess what, being used now at some industries.

Soon, there will be a time that companies will only rely on AI for such minor tasks.

AI only does analysis based on the data, it has no feeling. for example, milan playing against napoli, this was a game that happened days ago, but it serves as a good example, the AI would analyze all data and without a doubt it would predict that Napoli would win the game, that's because napoli is on top from Serie A, it has good defense, good attack and has already beaten milan in the past, while milan are not doing well in the league. it's all data that the AI would make it favor Napoli, so you would be convinced that napoli would win the game, so what could go wrong with the AI's prediction? well, what the AI could not analyze would be the following: Napoli players went to play in their countries' national teams, with that you would come back worn out, mainly because it is not easy to play in Africa

in addition to the temperatures in africa not being easy to deal with, the games also have a lot of physical contact, so when napoli's main player returned, he returned injured, without the main striker napoli was left with a weakened attack, with that it could already be predicted that napoli would not be able to win the game, but for the AI that only analyzes data, there would be no way to analyze this very important factor, only a human could think that way, the AI does not serve as something guaranteed in the analysis of a game, in sports betting i I would not trust any AI, I prefer to do analyzes alone, it is safer in my opinion, there are people who prefer to pay others or listen to others, these people would use AI

[nullama]

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AI only does analysis based on the data, it has no feeling. for example, milan playing against napoli, this was a game that happened days ago, but it serves as a good example, the AI would analyze all data and without a doubt it would predict that Napoli would win the game, that's because napoli is on top from Serie A, it has good defense, good attack and has already beaten milan in the past, while milan are not doing well in the league. it's all data that the AI would make it favor Napoli, so you would be convinced that napoli would win the game, so what could go wrong with the AI's prediction? well, what the AI could not analyze would be the following: Napoli players went to play in their countries' national teams, with that you would come back worn out, mainly because it is not easy to play in Africa

in addition to the temperatures in africa not being easy to deal with, the games also have a lot of physical contact, so when napoli's main player returned, he returned injured, without the main striker napoli was left with a weakened attack, with that it could already be predicted that napoli would not be able to win the game, but for the AI that only analyzes data, there would be no way to analyze this very important factor, only a human could think that way, the AI does not serve as something guaranteed in the analysis of a game, in sports betting i I would not trust any AI, I prefer to do analyzes alone, it is safer in my opinion, there are people who prefer to pay others or listen to others, these people would use AI

At the end of the day, the "feeling" is also based on previous data, so the AI could in theory model that as well.

For example, if you watch a couple of teams from another country playing against each other, and you've never seen or heard about them before, you probably won't have any "feeling" about one or the other.

[wxa7115]

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AI only does analysis based on the data, it has no feeling. for example, milan playing against napoli, this was a game that happened days ago, but it serves as a good example, the AI would analyze all data and without a doubt it would predict that Napoli would win the game, that's because napoli is on top from Serie A, it has good defense, good attack and has already beaten milan in the past, while milan are not doing well in the league. it's all data that the AI would make it favor Napoli, so you would be convinced that napoli would win the game, so what could go wrong with the AI's prediction? well, what the AI could not analyze would be the following: Napoli players went to play in their countries' national teams, with that you would come back worn out, mainly because it is not easy to play in Africa

in addition to the temperatures in africa not being easy to deal with, the games also have a lot of physical contact, so when napoli's main player returned, he returned injured, without the main striker napoli was left with a weakened attack, with that it could already be predicted that napoli would not be able to win the game, but for the AI that only analyzes data, there would be no way to analyze this very important factor, only a human could think that way, the AI does not serve as something guaranteed in the analysis of a game, in sports betting i I would not trust any AI, I prefer to do analyzes alone, it is safer in my opinion, there are people who prefer to pay others or listen to others, these people would use AI

At the end of the day, the "feeling" is also based on previous data, so the AI could in theory model that as well.

For example, if you watch a couple of teams from another country playing against each other, and you've never seen or heard about them before, you probably won't have any "feeling" about one or the other.

And in that case an AI will be way better than a human gambler, after all a human gambler can only have a limited expertise on a small number of sports, however an AI as long as it has enough data to produce models could in theory make bets on every single market available to it.

This could give a massive advantage to the developers of such an AI as there are markets that due to their unpopularity may offer better opportunities for profits, especially if we compare them to other markets which are more popular and in which casinos put more attention, and as such profits are more difficult to obtain.

[AicecreaME]

And in that case an AI will be way better than a human gambler, after all a human gambler can only have a limited expertise on a small number of sports, however an AI as long as it has enough data to produce models could in theory make bets on every single market available to it.

This could give a massive advantage to the developers of such an AI as there are markets that due to their unpopularity may offer better opportunities for profits, especially if we compare them to other markets which are more popular and in which casinos put more attention, and as such profits are more difficult to obtain.

As long as the AI have all the necessary information about the sports you intend to bet on, then there's really a high chance that the predicted result will be the outcome of the game. Assuming that all the recent and relevant information are all in the database, the prediction will be more accurate or precise at the very least. However, if there are information, especially the crucial ones that are left behind and weren't included on the AI's system, it will be a risky situation if you decided to bet without counterchecking the odds first and the recent updates about the teams you plan to support and put your money on. Hence, it is important to still research even if you already plan to use an AI to generate possible ending of the match.