[POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes

[Fredomago]

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It would be a suicide if you do really end up on having this kind of mindset and belief on mind about getting some loan and going all in just because you do really believe on AI winning rate?
For some testing then it wont really be that bad but it would really be jut good for proving out your curiosity but if you do rely on it then it would be an another story.
Dont make yourself believe that these things does work because if it does then all of us would really be that filthy rich and make our all bets to be profitable.
So it doesnt really work, it is really just people becomes too desperate on trying out new things.

I think there might be a possibility of getting better odds than some companies that are not using AI to calculate their odds.

But in the end it's a small amount of probability to get it right, so I wouldn't put too much money on it.

Maybe for things that are rare, and the AI is saying it will happen, maybe for those it's worth using it.

We don't really know how big the chance is to get a win from using AI for gambling. But if the chances of winning are getting bigger, the news will surely spread to many gamblers so that many gamblers will try it to see the results. And if it works for some people, there will be many more who will try it and most of them will use more money to gamble. I can't imagine what if AI technology is applied to gambling and a question arises: whether casinos can survive the many people who can win from many games.

We're all curious about what AI can do if the data it has is updated every now and then. You wouldn't think for 1 sec not to try asking the AI if your analysis of a sports match is close to its analysis. It gives you a second confirmation that your confidence to bet increases.

Of course, if AI can do it, it's a breakthrough. And if I think of betting just $25 and then the AI says my prediction is close to its prediction, I might just bet $50.

I like yourpoint, a second confirmation to convince you that the analysis that you did are also being back up by the data which AI can detect, a good basis to add more to your potential bets, if there's already a good chance to win then placing much bigger bet probably will be the option for most gamblers who can read the analysis very well.

Though it is still gambling and even there's a good basis according to data the chnace of losing can't be removed, there's no accurate if bad luck takeover with your bet.

You can use AI like this also, You can use AI as a validation or a second opinion to your chosen bet. You will put an additional work from doing it but the chances of you winning also increases given that you have an AI opinion. It's like your bet is backed by a compilation of data, Which AI is most likely doing since it rely on the data you are feeding it. Knowing that you have a great chance of winning also makes your inner self kicks a strong sense of confidence that can be undeniably make you bet more than what you are planning to do.

Same with how I see it, though we still needed to consider that there are luck factors and there's also fixed matches where AI won't be able to read from the data that he will be using, we should always consider that in anyhow we will be victims of those match fixing and even how high the chance that we and AI will provide the outcome might be on the other-side.

That instinct of adding the amount of our bets, it will be triggered as we can't deny the fact that we wanted to win a more human instinct that's always inside us, can be good if we win but worse if things went to the other side.

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[redsun114]

Just two words about this subject (AI) that became more talked about since the hype about Chatgpt. Well the bot isn't bad but far from being perfect and requires human intervention to fix the text but can help people getting ideas and so on.
For sports, we always hear about AI selecting the winner for big competitions which ends up being eliminated then select another winner
Data has nothing to do with real events but can give an overall idea about it. For example, with covid-19, we saw half of the team being absent and the result was the opposite..

Though AI is already there even before but the talks about them aren't that strong not until this Chatgpt came out. Now the topic about AIs are hot again. There is no perfect in this world so what do we expect? But despite of that fact, Chatgpt still functions very well. People love using it and that is why it became the talked of the town.

AIs like Chatgpt still need our help for them to function, so for those people who think AIs will dominate us soon, I think that's far from happening. In conclusion, We can use AIs to help us but we shouldn't totally rely on them. The rest of the work must still be done by us to ensure that the outcome is great as we expected it.

[nullama]

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Though AI is already there even before but the talks about them aren't that strong not until this Chatgpt came out. Now the topic about AIs are hot again. There is no perfect in this world so what do we expect? But despite of that fact, Chatgpt still functions very well. People love using it and that is why it became the talked of the town.

AIs like Chatgpt still need our help for them to function, so for those people who think AIs will dominate us soon, I think that's far from happening. In conclusion, We can use AIs to help us but we shouldn't totally rely on them. The rest of the work must still be done by us to ensure that the outcome is great as we expected it.

The main thing is that these AI systems still use training data from some months or a year or so ago.

That means they have an old view of the world. This is specially important for the sporting matches odds. It basically ignores all the recent games, which are usually the most important ones to consider.

I think these AI tools will make us more efficient, just as going from analog to digital made us way more efficient, now we can use AI tools to create content, and then we edit, instead of having to build everything from scratch, say letter by letter, or pixel by pixel. With these tools we can be a bit more of an editor.

[jaberwock]

The main thing is that these AI systems still use training data from some months or a year or so ago.

That means they have an old view of the world. This is specially important for the sporting matches odds. It basically ignores all the recent games, which are usually the most important ones to consider.

I think these AI tools will make us more efficient, just as going from analog to digital made us way more efficient, now we can use AI tools to create content, and then we edit, instead of having to build everything from scratch, say letter by letter, or pixel by pixel. With these tools we can be a bit more of an editor.

That could be fixed quite quickly if the whole idea is to build an AI that could predict game results. The problem is not how the data would work, it's about the fact that football (or most sports in that regard) is not something predictable no matter what you use. Of course it could give a good result based on its data, and I would say it could be right 80%+ of the time to be fair, but the odds would not be that great for it all.

Just download all the game data, the statistics of players, the ratings of the players in each game, the available players and unavailable players and you got yourself something that could calculate. However, we have seen plenty of games where underdogs won, that's hard to predict.

[bitcampaign]

I just voted NO poll because I don't believe the AI chose the right bet for me let alone made me lose a lot of money because the bet looks like any bet is not suitable also using this advanced technology it's better to use the analysis available on google

The analysis you see on google are done by individuals as well who tend to make money by placing ads around their predictions and remember if they were that good, they would be printing money instead of giving out predictions for free xD.

yes as usual there are always annoying ads, but I consider it to pay for free predictions, basically not sure also this artificial intelligence can be used to predict results. After all, no one can guess the casino correctly let alone bet relying on this technology

[Quidat]

I just voted NO poll because I don't believe the AI chose the right bet for me let alone made me lose a lot of money because the bet looks like any bet is not suitable also using this advanced technology it's better to use the analysis available on google

The analysis you see on google are done by individuals as well who tend to make money by placing ads around their predictions and remember if they were that good, they would be printing money instead of giving out predictions for free xD.

yes as usual there are always annoying ads, but I consider it to pay for free predictions, basically not sure also this artificial intelligence can be used to predict results. After all, no one can guess the casino correctly let alone bet relying on this technology

Talking sensibly on which if it does work then all of us would be using up AI on making some bet but we arent seeing such condition which does simply implies that it doesnt work.For testings sake
then it wouldn't really be that a bad idea on doing so but there are people who are really that forcing themselves to believe that it does work but its really not.
Wont really be that bad to make out some testing phase for the sake of curiosity but its not that relevant on trying to relying your bets into it.
It cant really be that possible for it to be working.

[SquallLeonhart]

You can use AI like this also, You can use AI as a validation or a second opinion to your chosen bet. You will put an additional work from doing it but the chances of you winning also increases given that you have an AI opinion. It's like your bet is backed by a compilation of data, Which AI is most likely doing since it rely on the data you are feeding it. Knowing that you have a great chance of winning also makes your inner self kicks a strong sense of confidence that can be undeniably make you bet more than what you are planning to do.

Same with how I see it, though we still needed to consider that there are luck factors and there's also fixed matches where AI won't be able to read from the data that he will be using, we should always consider that in anyhow we will be victims of those match fixing and even how high the chance that we and AI will provide the outcome might be on the other-side.

That instinct of adding the amount of our bets, it will be triggered as we can't deny the fact that we wanted to win a more human instinct that's always inside us, can be good if we win but worse if things went to the other side.

You will not be able to know fixed matches most of the time neither, it would be quite troubling to learn it beforehand for us too, to know how dirty football could become, or any other sport, but if you know about it then you do not need AI.

This is more about AI being able to read every single data, and we can't, and in that regard AI could give points to every single situation, even a player with enough yellow cars that may get penalty for getting another one, so possibly playing less aggressive, it could consider even that much in detail, and we rarely can. This is why AI "could" be better than most gamblers, because it would consider these, I personally don't, I just gamble whatever my gut feeling tells me.

[electronicash]

You can use AI like this also, You can use AI as a validation or a second opinion to your chosen bet. You will put an additional work from doing it but the chances of you winning also increases given that you have an AI opinion. It's like your bet is backed by a compilation of data, Which AI is most likely doing since it rely on the data you are feeding it. Knowing that you have a great chance of winning also makes your inner self kicks a strong sense of confidence that can be undeniably make you bet more than what you are planning to do.

Same with how I see it, though we still needed to consider that there are luck factors and there's also fixed matches where AI won't be able to read from the data that he will be using, we should always consider that in anyhow we will be victims of those match fixing and even how high the chance that we and AI will provide the outcome might be on the other-side.

That instinct of adding the amount of our bets, it will be triggered as we can't deny the fact that we wanted to win a more human instinct that's always inside us, can be good if we win but worse if things went to the other side.

You will not be able to know fixed matches most of the time neither, it would be quite troubling to learn it beforehand for us too, to know how dirty football could become, or any other sport, but if you know about it then you do not need AI.

This is more about AI being able to read every single data, and we can't, and in that regard AI could give points to every single situation, even a player with enough yellow cars that may get penalty for getting another one, so possibly playing less aggressive, it could consider even that much in detail, and we rarely can. This is why AI "could" be better than most gamblers, because it would consider these, I personally don't, I just gamble whatever my gut feeling tells me.

it would take a higher AI with emotions involved to see a mismatch or perhaps just the odds itself where AI can see it as a fixed match. but people will not look at it as a fixed match, we can only say it's an upset fight because we are fixed on seeing the bookmaker's favorite to win.

when the underdog wins, the AI will never foresee it. but definitely, the AI or any other sports picker will predict which team has a high probability of winning.

[Blawpaw]

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

It is not a good idea to rely solely on AI for making gambling decisions, as the technology is still not advanced enough to be completely accurate. There are many factors that go into predicting the outcome of a sporting event, and even the most advanced AI models cannot take all of them into account. AI models can be trained on biased data sets, which could lead to inaccurate predictions. It is always a good idea to use AI predictions as one of many pieces of information when making gambling decisions. It would be interesting to see how accurate ChatGPT predictions are, however, I do not recommend it to rely solely on AI predictions for gambling. It's always better to use multiple resources and do your own research.

[slapper]

I have not tried it, and probably because it's the first time I'm reading about it 🤣, I have never thought that AI can be used to make betting decisions. Dumb me😝, to not even have thought of it, knowing that artificial intelligence is greatly appreciated in some countries. Last year, I read an article about how some AI is frequently employed in the health care department. The information confirms that they are effective in carrying out their activity.

For the fact that I have not tried AI to make my betting decision, I would love to if I had the chance. Depending on the winning results of the AI bet and the wins of my personal decision, that would determine which is better and the one to be used most often. betting has never be so accurate in prediction according to the gamblers knowledge, I am just wondering how accurate it can be with AI's decision.

AI betting will change sports. Data analysis and trend detection can improve decision-making. It's faster and more efficient than humans in processing big amounts of data. The best sportsbooks are using AI. They developed algorithms to predict game and event outcomes. Machine learning can teach these systems from new data. AI betting resources are available online. AI-powered prediction and betting bots exist. Research a dependable service. AI may be biased and erroneous. Thus, use judgment and research. AI may enhance sports betting, but more research is needed.

[beerlover]

AI in betting will undoubtedly affect the game. In order to make better decisions, it's important to analyze data and trends in addition to simply anticipating outcomes. The best part is that it is faster and more effective than human analysis because it can quickly digest a large volume of data.

The "AI" we are talking about is basically kind of machine-learning in most cases. There is no true AI as mentioned before. However, using the current model would mean that you need to implement insane amount of data into it.

For example chatgpt was created by using unimaginable amount of data feed into it, I am not sure how much but it was some amount I never heard before, I know giga, terra and peta but this was even more than that I think. All in all that is the hardest thing to do considering the game is something that evolves constantly, even now a team could buy a player from another team, and you need to adjust, that would be the hardest part to adjust on any AI out there.

[snipie]

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In conclusion, We can use AIs to help us but we shouldn't totally rely on them. The rest of the work must still be done by us to ensure that the outcome is great as we expected it.

Totally agree with you. Human intervention is essential at least for the near future and I doubt that our intervention will not be required later but definitely less and less..
Scientific journals for example are being worried about that and will definitely implement a detection system or maybe a signed paper to declare that they didn't use the bot or maybe declare that they used it for correction, inspiration or something particular in an article..

[Hispo]

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In conclusion, We can use AIs to help us but we shouldn't totally rely on them. The rest of the work must still be done by us to ensure that the outcome is great as we expected it.

Totally agree with you. Human intervention is essential at least for the near future and I doubt that our intervention will not be required later but definitely less and less..
Scientific journals for example are being worried about that and will definitely implement a detection system or maybe a signed paper to declare that they didn't use the bot or maybe declare that they used it for correction, inspiration or something particular in an article..

There are probably cryptographic solutions coming so people cannot abuse the Artificial intelligence technologies to cheat on important things, which are supposed to be done entirely by human beings or at least being reviewed by human beings.

As for sport betting or gambling, I assume those who are actually willing to develop an AI to bet or gamble won't disclose the code to the public or won't even offer the executable for sale.

[Betwrong]

~ when the underdog wins, the AI will never foresee it. but definitely, the AI or any other sports picker will predict which team has a high probability of winning.

Yes, and that will affect the odds right away. So, what we would may need the AI for, is to dig out an info that few people are aware about. Like a facebook post by a close relative of an athlete telling that everyone contracted COVID after a family event. It won't be in the news, but it can affect the outcome significantly.

But we need the AI which database is constantly updated on an hourly basis. And ChatGPT is not such an AI, at the moment.

[Fredomago]

~ when the underdog wins, the AI will never foresee it. but definitely, the AI or any other sports picker will predict which team has a high probability of winning.

Yes, and that will affect the odds right away. So, what we would may need the AI for, is to dig out an info that few people are aware about. Like a facebook post by a close relative of an athlete telling that everyone contracted COVID after a family event. It won't be in the news, but it can affect the outcome significantly.

But we need the AI which database is constantly updated on an hourly basis. And ChatGPT is not such an AI, at the moment.

Those information is very crucial as it can change the situation in case something like that happen, the availability of the players or someone that's part of the team will be absent, I think for now the data that AI will detect are those that are available from the information bank that the user will pinpoint.

Unexpected things are not or will not be available, something that also needed to consider when trying to get a better chance
of winning.

[Davidvictorson]

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

No, AI may be intelligent but cannot predict anything. They are programmed to give a certain output to a certain input. They may try, but in the long run, I think we are still very far off from seeing that. I would like to think that the only way this may happen is if we have a cyborg, but that isn't going to happen. I have yet to see a thread of ChatGPT predictions. I guess they will not be accurate. Besides, ChatGPT still needs a lot of data and training to reach accuracy in whatever predictions it makes.

[goinmerry]

No, AI may be intelligent but cannot predict anything. They are programmed to give a certain output to a certain input. They may try, but in the long run, I think we are still very far off from seeing that. I would like to think that the only way this may happen is if we have a cyborg, but that isn't going to happen. I have yet to see a thread of ChatGPT predictions. I guess they will not be accurate. Besides, ChatGPT still needs a lot of data and training to reach accuracy in whatever predictions it makes.

In fairness with the AIs, since they are programmed, they have access to all known sources that's why they can make a reasonable output.

Obviously, it shouldn't be relied on but what matter here is, since bots are relying on several sources, it can give us a good reference already without searching for other sources as the AI gave it all.

In sports betting, if we are familiar with the league and follow it regularly, any prediction from the AI can be considered just a choice.

[Mahanton]

No, AI may be intelligent but cannot predict anything. They are programmed to give a certain output to a certain input. They may try, but in the long run, I think we are still very far off from seeing that. I would like to think that the only way this may happen is if we have a cyborg, but that isn't going to happen. I have yet to see a thread of ChatGPT predictions. I guess they will not be accurate. Besides, ChatGPT still needs a lot of data and training to reach accuracy in whatever predictions it makes.

In fairness with the AIs, since they are programmed, they have access to all known sources that's why they can make a reasonable output.

Obviously, it shouldn't be relied on but what matter here is, since bots are relying on several sources, it can give us a good reference already without searching for other sources as the AI gave it all.

In sports betting, if we are familiar with the league and follow it regularly, any prediction from the AI can be considered just a choice.

But only basing up with those past events on which it isnt really that bad to consider that they could really gather data in most efficient and most fastest way on where a human couldnt do on a specific period of time
and this is the way or thing i do see as an advantage but in speaking for current events or speculative approach on which its no doubt that human beings are still the ones who could make out some recognizable
speculations and guesses towards a fight.There are things which AI's couldnt be able to read up specially into other specific sentiments on where as we could only be able to understand out.
This is why its never been that 100% reliable if you do really have this consideration on making up some bets basing up to this.

[nakamura12]

But only basing up with those past events on which it isnt really that bad to consider that they could really gather data in most efficient and most fastest way on where a human couldnt do on a specific period of time
and this is the way or thing i do see as an advantage but in speaking for current events or speculative approach on which its no doubt that human beings are still the ones who could make out some recognizable
speculations and guesses towards a fight.There are things which AI's couldnt be able to read up specially into other specific sentiments on where as we could only be able to understand out.
This is why its never been that 100% reliable if you do really have this consideration on making up some bets basing up to this.

Atleast gathering data would be much faster than a human could do and of you don't like the AI to do the picking then you can just based your picks on what the AI have gathered. I know that it isn't 100% reliable when answering or choosing the right answer or outcomes but I can say that it is much better than human. As what others have suggested that the database should be updated for the AI to work better or have a higher chance of winning.

[slapper]

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

No, AI may be intelligent but cannot predict anything. They are programmed to give a certain output to a certain input. They may try, but in the long run, I think we are still very far off from seeing that. I would like to think that the only way this may happen is if we have a cyborg, but that isn't going to happen. I have yet to see a thread of ChatGPT predictions. I guess they will not be accurate. Besides, ChatGPT still needs a lot of data and training to reach accuracy in whatever predictions it makes.

You prove that code and data constrain AI, especially complicated systems like ChatGPT. Based on patterns and data, can they foretell the future? Not likely.

Unexpected events can disrupt the best forecasts. Thus, projections should be viewed with suspicion.

In finance, healthcare, and sports, AI could revolutionize prediction. These predictions improve decision-making and identify hidden trends.